Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 5/6/21
| 12:03 |
: Trent Grisham is good. But is it possible he might be under the radar, star level good?
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| 12:03 |
: He’s certainly *played* like a star the last 80ish games now. I’m not convinced that he’s quite that good, but he’s certainly proving me wrong.
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| 12:03 |
: So, the Dodgers – what the hell’s going on???
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| 12:04 |
: I should note they have a 20-12 pythag record, which equates to a 101-win schedule. And that’s going to be far more predictive than their current record is
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| 12:05 |
: What is going on with all of the league wide injuries? Pandemic short season related? Pitchers throwing harder than ever? SSS?
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| 12:05 |
: I haven’t looked at injury rate compared to previous Aprils, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the weird 2020 made things riskier.
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| 12:05 |
: What is the all time negative WAR effect for a manager? ASKING FOR A FRIEND.
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| 12:05 |
: That’s a real messy question! It’s hard to make manager WAR
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| 12:06 |
: Is there a player in the Major Leagues you expect to be able to make good chili? And who do you think that is?
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| 12:07 |
: Well, that’s one I’ve never thought of before!
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| 12:07 |
: I wouldn’t trust any Cincinnati Red to make chili
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| 12:07 |
: just as a safety issue
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| 12:07 |
: What does ZIPS and its creator think of Cole Irvin?
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| 12:07 |
: ZiPS sees Irvin as rougly average and I’m about on the same page on this one
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| 12:07 |
: What’s with all the no-hitters so far this year?
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| 12:08 |
: Lower BA means more no-hitters!
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| 12:09 |
: Any thoughts on what the Yanks are doing re: their pitchers ratcheting up changeup usage?
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| 12:10 |
: They haven’t been forthcoming, but I expect that it has to do with replacing Rothschild with Matt Blake; the changeups were bumped last year too
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| 12:10 |
: What’s your outlook on Kyle Tucker? Just a BABIP issue, or anything else there to be concerned about?
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| 12:10 |
: Ain’t nobody having a .177 BABIP as predictive.
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| 12:11 |
: Are you into craft beers?
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| 12:11 |
: Yes, though I drink less than I used to be a good margin
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| 12:11 |
: Alcohol triggers my GERD far more than it used to. I drink about one beer a week now
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| 12:12 |
: With pitchers seeming to continue to get ahead vs. hitters on the whole, is it time to revisit the classic split of available WAR between position players and pitchers? (I think it was 55% go to position players and 45% to pitchers).
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| 12:12 |
: No, I don’t see why it would work this way
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| 12:12 |
: Pitchers don’t make up any larger percentage of the results of a pitcher vs. hitter matchup than before
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| 12:13 |
: And WAR is a scarcity issue.
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| 12:13 |
: If every pitcher suddenly throws 18 K/9, it doesn’t mean that pitchers are objectively more valuable, so long as the pitcher has the same predictive value of a particular batter vs. pitcher matchup
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| 12:13 |
: Have you ever been to Europe? If so what places did you visit?
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| 12:14 |
: I’m not a big international traveler because I hate flying. I’ve been to England, Scotland, and Germany at different times
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| 12:14 |
: I don’t really do touristy stuff
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| 12:14 |
: The Cubs are fixed! Lights out bullpen & Matt Duffy is the contact hitter they’ve been searching for. World Series, here we come!
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| 12:14 |
: Is there an advantage to a “stars and scrubs” approach vs a “no holes” approach in that the weaknesses are easier to identify and address in-season?
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| 12:14 |
: Stars and scrubs make it easier simply because you have places to upgrade
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| 12:14 |
: But it’s also a risk in having more value locked up in fewer players
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| 12:15 |
: How does a pitcher adding a new pitch (example: Alzolay adding his slider mid season last year) change ZIPS?
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| 12:15 |
: It doesn’t; ZiPS looks at pitch data, but it’s results focused
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| 12:15 |
: Projections aren’t a thing where you can just say “pitcher adds slider, ERA+ goes up 10 points”
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| 12:15 |
: How good in percentage terms do you think ZiPS is compared to whatever the best projection system will be in 2050? I.e. 75% as good at projecting?
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| 12:15 |
: 97% or so. All the low and middle hanging fruit are long gone
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| 12:16 |
: We’re just nudging projections now, at least when it comes to near-future projections
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| 12:16 |
: Ohtani the pitcher’s command is as superlatively bad as his stuff is good. Is that something that we can expect to improve as he gets more experience?
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| 12:17 |
: I do. Remember, he still have very little experience throwing against major league hitters, thanks to injuries
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| 12:17 |
: I don’t know why I don’t say hi first
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| 12:17 |
: Lance Lynn could make me chili anyday
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| 12:17 |
: with xwOBA seeming to be less accurate (every team seems to be underperforming it), would changes to that affect ZIPS?
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| 12:17 |
: I’m having similar issues in-season this year
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| 12:17 |
: Which is why it’s taking longer than usual to roll out my zBABIP piece for first month
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| 12:18 |
: So Air Force 1 is slated to be this slick Supersonic Transport jet in the year 2036. I’m holding off on running for President until then because why would u want to have the office before then. I’ll be 76 yrs old. Think I can pull off another old guy Biden type victory?
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| 12:18 |
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| 12:18 |
: Patiño and Mc Clanahan or Mize and Skubal
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| 12:18 |
: Former
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| 12:18 |
: I’ve (and others I think) assumed for a long time that in small sample size situations (i.e. playoffs) pitching *seems* like a more reliable metric than hitting for predicting success. Have you seen any hard data to back that up?
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| 12:18 |
: I have not
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| 12:19 |
: And I’ve looked at this myself
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| 12:19 |
: Are you related to Wisława Szymborski or is it just a common Polish name?
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| 12:21 |
: I am related, but it’s quite distant. I don’t have the full family tree accessible here (I’d have to ask mom), but it goes pretty far back.
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| 12:22 |
: The real troublemaker was Johann Nepomuk Maximilian von Szymborski from the early 19th century.
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| 12:23 |
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| 12:23 |
: This particularly amuses me. Let’s get a Szymborski King of England!
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| 12:24 |
: Okay to rage drop suarez in shallow 10 teamers??
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| 12:25 |
: I think it’s actually possible given the shallowness of the league
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| 12:25 |
: Which active or retired baseball players do you think have 5+ cats?
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| 12:25 |
: I’ve heard that Lil’ Bedrock is a cat of fans
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| 12:25 |
: What are the rules for qualification for the fangraphs leaderboard? I can’t quite figure out why Tatis doesn’t qualify.
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| 12:26 |
: Tatis is ineligible from normal BA qualification rules
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| 12:26 |
: 32 * 3.1 = 99.2 and Tatis only has 96 PA
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| 12:27 |
: 95
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| 12:27 |
: Why is Cavan Biggio swinging at so many more pitches out of the zone now? I really liked his plate discipline coming into the year.
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| 12:28 |
: I believe that with him, there’s been an intentional bid for him to be more aggressive at the plate. How much it plays into this is unknown, but it doesn’t appear to be working
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| 12:28 |
: What is up with Gavin Lux? Is this just who he is now? Or is there another level waiting to come out?
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| 12:29 |
: I’d be far from throwing in the towel, but he might need some triple-A time to get back on track
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| 12:29 |
: He got very few PA last year in a key developmental season
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| 12:29 |
: Re: Yankees and changeups – they figured since none of their batters can hit one that it would hold for the rest of the league too.
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| 12:30 |
: That’s how the Mets feel when Jacob deGrom pitches!
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| 12:30 |
: Chapman’s doing pretty well this season, FIP of -0.81 and xFIP of -0.16 (which actually went up after his last couple of outings, which included only 4 strikeouts in 2 perfect innings – but one of the other outs was a flyball).
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| 12:30 |
: Do you have any idea how teams are valuing John Means in terms of trade value? 3 more years of control if I’m not mistaken, really just depends on how legit other teams believe he is.
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| 12:30 |
: I think he’d fetch a lot in a trade now
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| 12:30 |
: At least as much now, as Quintana a few years ago
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| 12:30 |
: There were already reasons to consider him a better pitcher than in his rookie season
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| 12:30 |
: also which of your cats would fit best as a character in a JRPG
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| 12:30 |
: Galileo probably had the biggest personality of my cats
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| 12:31 |
: Dan do you have any mechanical keyboard recommendations? I’ve decided I want one but don’t know what to get.
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| 12:32 |
: Love this keyboard. Though you many want tenkeyless or compact and there are versions of those
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| 12:32 |
: The ease of removing key switches is a big deal for me.
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| 12:34 |
: I’m using Kailh Box Jades for my number pad (clicky, tactile), Kailh Box Royals for my letters (very tactile, no clicky), Cherry Black for my spacebar, Cherry Speed Silver for my utility keys that use a pinky (tab, caps, shift, enter), and Gateron Brown for the various other, miscellaneous keys
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| 12:34 |
: Is William Contreras really the answer for the Braves for an extended period? He’s exciting but largely unproven.
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| 12:35 |
: I wouldn’t go THAT far
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| 12:35 |
: at least right now
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| 12:35 |
: The last team we saw him, he was a kinda meh Double-A hitter
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| 12:36 |
: Also, I wish he was Wiliam instead of William. Due to Willson, his parents have been using more than their just share of l’s.
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| 12:36 |
: Bad stretch for the Dodgers? Or closer to talent level?
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| 12:36 |
: No, they’ll be fine
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| 12:36 |
: The obvious answer to Jorge Washington‘s question is Chili Davis
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| 12:36 |
: But someone MADE of chili shoudln’t be making chili
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| 12:36 |
: Lance Lynn is from Brownsburg Indiana. Your trust is misplaced in him. His chili probably has beans and noodles.
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| 12:36 |
: Who was worse as a GM: Dave Stewart or Jeff Birdich
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| 12:36 |
: I actually think Bridich was worse
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| 12:37 |
: Justin Smoak plays in Japan now but I bet that dude makes a hell of a chili
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| 12:37 |
: I think the most exciting play in baseball is the routine fly ball.
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| 12:37 |
: Would you sell high on Rodon or do you think this is his year making 27-30 starts?
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| 12:37 |
: Depends how high you can tell him!
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| 12:37 |
: err, sell
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| 12:37 |
: And the White Sox should have an astronomical price given their position in contention.
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| 12:38 |
: Do you think Hendriks is a significantly worse runner than Abreu, process errors aside?
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| 12:38 |
: Possibly. The bigger deal is that the risks are bigger
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| 12:38 |
: He’s certainly a less EXPERIENCED runner
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| 12:38 |
: does being on a Taxi Squad have any PLAYER benefits? I finally found Michael Chavis on Boston taxi squad. Read up the blurbs on taxi squads, and concluded that a player gets screwed being on the taxi quad. Your position, please.
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| 12:38 |
: IIRC, the main benefit is you get the MLB per diem of $100 something per day
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| 12:39 |
: Which isn’t nothing as it’s on top of minor league salary
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| 12:39 |
: and for many minor leaguers, an additional $100 a day is a ginormous pay bump!
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| 12:39 |
: But no service time
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| 12:39 |
: Re. ragedrop for Suarez, he’s suddenly taking walks. I’d hold
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| 12:39 |
: Is this the year that 4 or fewer teams win 90 games?
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| 12:39 |
: I don’t think so
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| 12:39 |
: What are your thoughts on dropped 3rd strike? I think it’s a terrible rule.
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| 12:39 |
: Once again, get rid of the dropped third strike rule. John Means did nothing wrong.
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| 12:40 |
: I think dropped third strike is a dumb rule
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| 12:40 |
: Now, IF you allowed a runner to choose to run to first on *any* dropped strike, it would still be dumb, but a little less so since it’s actually a rpinciple
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| 12:40 |
: but why would he get to run *after* striking out
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| 12:41 |
: Chances Colome regains closer role in MN?
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| 12:41 |
: It’s possible, but I think Taylor Rogers is going to stay as the closer
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| 12:41 |
: He’d likely have to struggle
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| 12:41 |
: Not that there’s much competition, but John Means threw the best start I’ve ever seen an Oriole throw.
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| 12:41 |
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| 12:41 |
: Is there a current player who looks like he crawled out of my ’86 Topps set more than Andrew Chafin?
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| 12:42 |
: Your worthy fansgraphs constituent seems to fancy himself a film expert. Do you watch movies and, if so, have any favorites in particular?
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| 12:42 |
: I’m not a film expert
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| 12:42 |
: Is Mike Trout the best player ever?
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| 12:42 |
: I won’t say that, but he’s certainly the best player of the 21st century so far
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| 12:43 |
: For which player do you see the biggest disconnect between how fans rate him and how valuable he actually is playing baseball?
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| 12:43 |
: Charlie Blackmon?
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| 12:43 |
: Is a meat and bean burrito wrapped chili?
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| 12:43 |
: No. There are beans
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| 12:43 |
: And they’re not reqlly constructed of the same ingredients otherwise
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| 12:44 |
: What is your take on Justin Dunn?
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| 12:45 |
: I think that he doesn’t, as of yet, cause enough swings-and-misses to be worth the command issues
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| 12:45 |
: I make chili like a civilized person, but I dunk peanut butter sandwiches in it. Please tell me you do the same
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| 12:45 |
: eww
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| 12:45 |
: Reclaim your stolen L’s Dalan Szymborskilli
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| 12:45 |
: Szymborskilli sounds like a horrible sandwich condiment
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| 12:45 |
: Is Andrew Benitendi back to being the Andrew Benitendi we know and love?
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| 12:46 |
: He’s certainly played better of late!
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| 12:46 |
: He was a really solid pickup by the Royals
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| 12:46 |
: You buying Means as a top 25 starter?
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| 12:46 |
: At the back end, yes
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| 12:46 |
: More so than ZiPS, obviously
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| 12:46 |
: This Goldstein fella says there are no great Matt Damon movies. Time to run him out of town?
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| 12:46 |
: YOu’re pretty much arguing a taste issue
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| 12:47 |
: I thought the Talented Mr. Ripley was a great movie
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| 12:47 |
: I think dropped third strike is like any throw to complete an out, it needs to be caught. First baseman can’t not catch the ball and the runner is out just because the throw was there on time in the appropriate vicinity. I mean, sure it sucks in this instance, but you literally need to catch outs. It’s a baseball rule.
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| 12:47 |
: I guess you can say it’s consistent in that vein
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| 12:47 |
: but it feels weird
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| 12:48 |
: Did Ernie Shore throw a perfect game?
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| 12:48 |
: I feel like he did, but I’m more flexible at these definitions than Manfred
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| 12:49 |
: Any idea as to how Luis Roberts’ injury will affect him long term?
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| 12:49 |
: No, but we should be wary.
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| 12:49 |
: The dropped third strike rule is the greatest terror of little league catchers’ parents.
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| 12:49 |
: Chances that the league sets the all time worst BA mark this year?
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| 12:49 |
: I’d say a good 70% or so
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| 12:50 |
: Szymborskilli is just the part of your family that moved into the Caucasus
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| 12:50 |
: Mr. Concerned in Indiana, that took me back to my rural Indiana elementary cafeteria school days
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| 12:50 |
: Baked beans on toast is underrated. Thoughts?
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| 12:50 |
: I don’t like toppings on toast
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| 12:50 |
: just give me toast with butter or cream cheese
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| 12:50 |
: my girlfriend LOVES toast with butter and marmite
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| 12:50 |
: I don’t think the dropped third strike rule is much different than going to extra innings when the score is tied. Both rules are somewhat esoteric and part of what makes baseball special.
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| 12:51 |
: Robbie Ray hasn’t walked a batter in his last three starts. How long of a stretch should we wait for until we start to think he’s improved his command?
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| 12:51 |
: YOU WERE CLOSE TO SAYING GHOST RUNNER ON SECOND IN WHICH CASE YOU’D BE HEARING FROM MY LAWYERS
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| 12:51 |
: Walk rate changes are significant VERY quickly
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| 12:51 |
: Where I grew up there were two options: chili (normal style) and chili soup (normal chili plus macaroni and beans, plus it was a bit thinner)
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| 12:51 |
: dahell?
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| 12:51 |
: Why is the answer not APRIL for the league-wide batting slump?
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| 12:51 |
: We’ve had five gamedays in May!
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| 12:51 |
: More likely to sustain their breakout? Vlad Jr or Buxton?
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| 12:51 |
: Vlad probably
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| 12:51 |
: Buxton is an injury risk
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| 12:52 |
: Does anyone give Javy Baez a multi-year contract this year or does he have to take a one year?
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| 12:52 |
: I think he’ll get multi-year OFFERS, but I think it’s more likely as of this moment that he takes a one-year because those might be very undwhelming
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| 12:52 |
: I know you don’t know the inner workings of Steamer but is there a reason that ZiPS is generally more conservative on pitchers than Steamer is?
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| 12:52 |
: Unfortunately, you answered your own question!
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| 12:52 |
: I don’t necessarily think that’s true either, though I don’t have the data in front of me to prove that
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| 12:53 |
: Hang on a sec
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| 12:54 |
: Bah, can’t get it quickly
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| 12:54 |
: but I THINK ZiPS has slightly higher variance among pitchers
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| 12:54 |
: Lots of IBB being issued in extras it seems. Do they count towards BB/9 for pitchers? Not really fair and quite misleading if they do.
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| 12:54 |
: They do. Kinda dumb, but they’re randomly distributed among pitchers enough that it usually hasn’t been a big enough deal to care about
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| 12:54 |
: but there’s an issue now
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| 12:54 |
: Looking to travel somewhere in June. Thinking about NYC, Puerto Rico or Anchorage? Where would you go?
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| 12:54 |
: Anchorage
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| 12:55 |
: If I’m traveling in summer, I go somewhere cooler
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| 12:55 |
: Unless it’s a work/social visit of course
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| 12:55 |
: Ohtani is amazing but the walks are not. Would the Angels be better off making him an OF and closer? Don’t say he shouldn’t be a two-way player that’s no fun.
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| 12:56 |
: I think given his upside, the Angels should stick him with him in the rotation until he proves he can’d hack it
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| 12:56 |
: Ronald Acuna just decided to stop striking out without sacrificing any power, and I think that’s swell.
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| 12:56 |
: Is Elvis Andrus done?
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| 12:56 |
: I think he is
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| 12:57 |
: When the Angels forgo the DH and have Ohtani bat, does he get the DH penalty or the pitcher-hitter bonus in his WAR?
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| 12:57 |
: I’m not actually sure how it’s done
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| 12:57 |
: But in a DH league, since he’s literally replacing a DH rather than a pitcher, it should be the DH pnealty
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| 12:58 |
: Carlos Carrasco to 60-day IL? Any info on that?
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| 12:59 |
: I don’t believe there’s anything new injury-wise, just that the Mets don’t anticipate activating him until the end of May
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| 12:59 |
: In which case, it’s just an accounting move to get the option of an extra 40-man spot
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| 12:59 |
: Dalton Wilcox has many beans and toast recipes in his book, You Must Buy Your Horse At Least as Much Jewelry as Your Wife and other Poems and Observations from Life on the Range by Dalton Wilcox
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| 12:59 |
: Dan this is what happens when german immigrants land in rural southern Indiana.
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| 12:59 |
: Did you know Kris Bryant will be 30 next year? Boogity boogity
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| 12:59 |
: I suspect that Kris Bryant is one of the undead, perhaps a gd vampire. Is there any other explanation for his season so far? It’s not like a global pandemic delaying and reducing last season, plus a forced week off during that season, could have any impact on how people perform right? That’s crazy to think seeing as they make money
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| 1:00 |
: On that note, I have to head out for another week! Thanks for joining me erveryone
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Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.
Dan Szymborski
I was not aware of this Dalton Wilcox fellow, Poet Laureate of the West, so many thanks to Jeff for the reference. This is exactly why I attend Dan chats.