Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 6/26/25

11:59
Avatar Dan Szymborski: It’s chat time!

12:01
James: Half of the Astros current rotation is basically guys picked up off the scrap heap. Is their performance sustainable and do any of them have middle rotation potential going forward?

12:02
Avatar Dan Szymborski: This is something the Astros are really good at, though. And really, most of the rotation is just averageish, which is sustainable. Brown and Valdez being good really carries the group and there’s no reason to be suspicious

12:02
Galen: If the Twins decide to sell pieces off. What would you expect the market for Buxton and/or Correa to be?  Buxton would have to wave his no trade, but I think he might if they are out of the WC race at the deadline.

12:04
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’d expect Buxton, if actually tradeable, would fetch a good price. Correa’s been kind of meh, so I don’t think the Twins would get a nice return if they’re not eating money

12:04
Dansby Swansong: Dan, what are the major issues with the expected lockout after the 2026 season?

12:04
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Well, the owners are making noise about a salary cap, though it remains to be seen whether this is just rhetoric to “concede” later.

12:05
Avatar Dan Szymborski: The fundamental issues for players – slower salary growth than MLB’s revenue growth – remains just what it was

12:05
Avatar Dan Szymborski: The service time games, at least, haven’t been generally as obvious as in the past

12:05
War2d2: Hi Dan! I’ve been running Volpe out there as my SS in a 5×5 keeper league, but he’s been meh. Correa is available off the wire (because he’s been trbl). The thing is, Correa seems to be heating up, and he has the track record. Would you stick with Volpe or make the switch? I don’t have the roster space to carry both. Thanks!

12:06
Avatar Dan Szymborski: In a KEEPER league, I’d probably hang onto Volpe over Correa

12:06
Reynolds Wrap: It’s shocking to me how badly B. Reynolds has played for the Buccos this year. Just bad luck or is this what his career winding down looks like?

12:07
Avatar Dan Szymborski: THIS bad, it’s shocking. However, 2021 was never the player he was, he’s a league-averageish player.

12:07
Avatar Dan Szymborski: But the thing is, this is a bit too soon for a cliff to be typical

12:08
Kevin: You recently mentioned preseason team projections actually do a better job projecting the following season’s results than the upcoming season’s results. Why would that be? And wouldn’t that be cause to make changes to the model for the upcoming season? Have you already done that?

12:08
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Because recency bias is huge

12:09
Avatar Dan Szymborski: And obviously, you wouldn’t predict 2026 using 2025’s preseason projections

12:09
Avatar Dan Szymborski: It’s only interesting that it’s more predictive than ACTUAL 2025 data

12:10
Guest: Out of Vientos, Baty, Mauricio, and Acuna, should the percentages suggest that at least one should be able to cover 3B for the Mets at a league-average level for a couple of years? Or is this a case of a 4 guys with a 25% chance of working out not adding up to 100%?

12:10
Avatar Dan Szymborski: PIcking out WHO is the tricky part. I’m more bullish on Vientos than his current offensive numbers, though Baty’s almost certainly the superior fielder

12:10
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’m not sure the latter two have enough chance to hit enough to really be plausible 3B, but who knows

12:10
Guest: What is the difference between Hard Hit% and Hard %? FG seems to have two, one is from Baseball Info Solutions and the other seems to be more regularly used. Why one over another?

12:11
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Statcast uses 95 mph. I don’t think BIS uses a bright line, but I COULD be wrong

12:12
Avatar Dan Szymborski: and really, the differences aren’t enough to really agonize about

12:12
I am the Apple: Which non-baseball thing would ZiPS be best at?

12:12
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Heating my office

12:12
I am the Apple: Which non-baseball thing would Szymborski, Dan be best at?

12:12
Avatar Dan Szymborski: video games, piano

12:12
Bob Loblaw: I believe you mentioned that you are an agnostic. Would believing in a simulated reality challenge that considering a simulation would have a creator/creators?

12:13
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’m agnostic. I lack sufficient evidence of the state of the universe to know one way or the other

12:13
Avatar Dan Szymborski: and I do believe there’s a chance that we’re in a simulation, though it doesn’t have any practical effect

12:13
I am the Apple: Which non-baseball thing is best?

12:14
Avatar Dan Szymborski: tacos?

12:14
Coolidge: The dispensationalists have taken over. Lord help us!

12:14
Lowe Distribution System: Projection question: if two guys in AAA have the same stats on everything, but one is 21 years old and one is 27, would they project differently just for the rest of the season?  I ask because it seems like whenever we see an old guy killing it in AAA he still isn’t useful even on the bench in the majors

12:14
Avatar Dan Szymborski: short term, USUALLY no. It’s more o f along term thing

12:14
Avatar Dan Szymborski: but you rarely get disputes that neat

12:14
Guest: Do you think the emphasis on swing speed metrics could lead to an increase in back injuries among hitters? Could this become an endemic issue, similar to how advanced pitching data has coincided with a rise in elbow surgeries?

12:15
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Unfortunately, I know little more about human physiology than a general idea how babies are made. I would imagine that swing speed could cause more back injuries in people who swing BADLY

12:15
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I imagine that most players get good enough coaching by this level that it probalby doesn’t make a difference

12:15
Avatar Dan Szymborski: but this is an educated guess. I don’t KNOW

12:15
BeefLoaf108: How much of your trolling me and other White Sox fans do you think factored in to the bad karma that is apparently clobbering your Baltimore Orioles? joy

12:16
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I troll everyone and everything! Half of commentary journalism is trolling

12:17
Avatar Dan Szymborski:

12:17
Adam: Will we look back on this as the best half season in Andy Pages’ career, or is there even more there?

12:17
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I expect this is LIKELY what his peak looks like

12:17
Nick: What do I do with Oneil Cruz? He’s hurting my team. Do I bench him? Trade him?

12:18
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’ll always be patient with the SS who hits balls with the velocity of protons in the large hadron collider

12:18
MilwaukeeBeerJays: Dan Dan, the fantasy man, have you seen Final Fantasy MTG yet, and are you a filthy commander player?

12:19
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I haven’t played MTG in 30 years really.

12:19
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I rarely had friends to play and I never really got back into it

12:20
Thanks for the chat!: What would you offer Judge for a 3-4 year free agent deal this offseason?

12:20
Avatar Dan Szymborski: a small country

12:20
Avatar Dan Szymborski: If I could get him on a 3 year deal, I’d have zero qualms about offering $70 million per

12:20
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Well, unless I have to pay for it. I don’t have $70 million

12:20
Coolidge: I look at Michael Harris’ preseason zips projection. Then I look at his numbers this season. Then I cry, dear god what has happened.

12:20
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Yeah, that ZiPS projection isn’t going well

12:21
Adam: Are the Savannah Bananas good/bad/neutral for baseball?

12:21
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I am always for nonsense

12:23
Lord Thunder: Would you let Ohtani pitch if you ran the Dodgers?

12:23
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Yes

12:23
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I PAID FOR THE CRUISE CONTROL AND MOONROOF

12:23
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Well, I guess cars come with the cruise control don’t they?

12:23
Avatar Dan Szymborski: insert another optional safeety feature

12:23
Guest: Can you see deep learning methods, particularly newer RNN and transformer architectures, improving existing projection models?

12:23
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Certainly possible! Though I think we’ll only see incremental games

12:23
Phil: Is Walker Buehler in big big trouble, or just trouble? It’s all command, I think–the stuff looks OK–but it obviously needs to be fixed.

12:24
Avatar Dan Szymborski: moderate trouble

12:24
War2d2: Tucker has been great, but probably not an MVP candidate. What does Zips think his next contract looks like at this point?

12:24
Avatar Dan Szymborski: $3 something last I checked

12:24
Avatar Dan Szymborski: But who knows – there just aren’t many bats avaialble in FA next couple years

12:25
Allantes: If you ran the Cubs and with the benefit of hindsight, would you have topped the Astros to sign Hader?

12:25
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Probably not

12:25
Jeff in Jersey: I’d sign Tucker for $3!

12:25
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Quiet you!

12:25
Bob Loblaw: Why is it when you look at the Statcast Batted Ball Profile Leaderboard the results are sorted by Pull Air %? I understand its importance, however, I wouldn’t think that would be the end all for balls put into play.

12:26
Avatar Dan Szymborski: It’s a pretty big deal though! remember https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-pulled-fly-ball-revolution-was-always-…

12:30
Ethan: Could you see the Rangers trading Corey Seager? He has 6/$186 (salary not AAV) after this year. When thinking about the Mets and their deficiencies and also long term roster building, taking on Seager’s contract seems like a worthwhile risk compared to giving Alonso a 5 year deal worth around $30 million a year. Thanks!

12:30
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I don’t see them doing that

12:30
Avatar Dan Szymborski: they didn’t do a huge rebuild when things were going far far worse

12:30
Avatar Dan Szymborski: and I dont’ think there’s been a fundamental change in the org

12:31
Avatar Dan Szymborski: and they’re only a couple games out in the wild card!

12:31
Adam: If you owned the Rockies, what type of team would you try to build to maximize your chance at sustainable winning?  Feels like they’ve tried numerous different philosophies over the years but can’t seem to overcome the altitude.  (Or is the altitude just an excuse?)

12:31
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think trying to build a specific TYPE of team runs you into trouble

12:31
Avatar Dan Szymborski: The general strategy should be to opportunistically build as good a team as possible. Be more concerned about the quality than the archetype

12:32
Insert Witty Name Here: Do you know of a way to find out the highest single game pitch counts in a game over the last ten years or so? I messed around in the leaderboards recently and I couldn’t find a way to do so.

12:32
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think stathead has that, I don’t think we do

12:32
Matt: FanGraphs notwithstanding, why aren’t there more nerds in baseball? Every time I see Michael Busch all I can think of is Simon Pegg – are we sure they’re not related?

12:32
Avatar Dan Szymborski: athletes are usually too busy to do all the nerd stuff

12:36
Hmm: Which Dan cat would product the highest Barrel%?

12:36
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Justinian

12:36
Avatar Dan Szymborski: he’s easily the most athletic of my current cats

12:36
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Though when he was alive, it would have been Galileo

12:36
Adam: Who’s the best player that the fewest people in this chat have ever heard of?

12:36
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Joe Kelley?

12:36
Jacob: Ryan Pepiot has already done more for the Rays than Glasnow has for the Dodgers.  Can we just admit that Glasnow is made of fragile glass?

12:36
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Shoudl change his name to Glaslater\

12:36
Guest: How many more years of pitching at this level would you need to see from deGrom for him to be a HoF for you?

12:37
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’m not sure the answer isn’t 0

12:37
Avatar Dan Szymborski: But I’m more of a peak guy than the vast vast majority of BBWAA members

12:37
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I would have voted for Johan Santana

12:37
Avatar Dan Szymborski: and I’m seriously thinking about votes for King Felix and David Wright

12:37
Bob Loblaw: So how long before Jacob Misiorowski takes over the world?

12:37
Avatar Dan Szymborski: He needs a larger army

12:39
the person who asks the lunch question: what’s for lunch?

12:40
Avatar Dan Szymborski: various cheeses and a very spicy pickle. I was at Jungle Jim’s yesterday

12:40
Lowe Distribution System: Aren’t Henderson and Cowser always doing Lego and Star Wars stuff?

12:40
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Yeah, but that stuff is cooler than it used to be!

12:40
Lowe Distribution System: After winning the World Series, Sean Doolittle was just wandering around the infield playing with a lightsaber

12:40
Guest: Jacob Merceniorowski

12:42
Allantes: I’m a big “peak” HoF guy. Anyone who throws a perfect game should be in.

12:42
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Tha’ts a little short a peak for me!

12:44
Allantes: Are the Athletics the only team with green as a primary uniform color?

12:44
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I believe they’re the only MLB team in history to use green as their primary color, not just an alternate or a secondary trim or something

12:44
Avatar Dan Szymborski: At least modern baseball – I don’t know every uniform of the 1800s

12:45
Avatar Dan Szymborski: but I imagine they were mostly the offwhite or gray

12:46
Matt: Re DeGrom, if his 2021 season was authored by a reliever, we’d be talking about one of the greatest relief seasons of all time, on par with Gagne in ‘03. Instead he gets 10th place for Cy vote and his season is relegated to the dustbin of history. In short, injuries suck and we can’t have nice things

12:46
Victoria: I’m a “big peak” HOF gal, it doesn’t matter how good your peak was as long as it lasted a long time

12:46
Allantes: Mark Teixiera is super into musicals. Not classic nerding, but quite nerdy nonetheless.

12:47
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’m a sucker for musicals too

12:47
Garth: I think the Devil Rays used some off-green? Maybe I just remember it that way because they sucked so bad.

12:47
Avatar Dan Szymborski: yeah, but it wasn’t really prominent the way it is with the A’s

12:47
Drewnasty: Better movie – Ghostbusters 2 or Robocop 2?

12:47
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Ghostbusters

12:50
mmddyyyy: Is 2 the most possible TJS?

12:50
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I woudl think you could possibly do more, but I’m unaware of anyone who had more than 2

12:50
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Did Venters?

12:50
Drewnasty: That is the correct answer. Thank you Dan.

12:50
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I didn’t know I was getting rated!

12:50
MN Dave: Buxton has a NTC, no chance is he traded

12:51
Avatar Dan Szymborski: everybody has a price

12:52
mmddyyyy: How many submariners are left in pro ball?

12:52
Avatar Dan Szymborski: They are still around!

12:52
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I can’t claim to know every minor league submariner

12:53
Avatar Dan Szymborski: but I’d call Rogers/Hill/Thompson as clearly submariner

12:53
Avatar Dan Szymborski: and then there’s a bunch of guys where it depends on your sidearm/submarine cutoff

12:53
Avatar Dan Szymborski: like lawrence

12:54
Avatar Dan Szymborski: and milner

12:54
Jeff in Jersey: Amen to voting for Santana and DeGrom for the HOF. Spending in this era shows that teams value upper-tier performance far more than consistency/durability. Could you imagine the bidding for Santana today after his ’03-’07 run today?

12:54
mmddyyyy: Do pitchers pitch better when they get run support?

12:54
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I haven’t found a correlation

12:54
ajake57: Yes, Venters had 3

12:54
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Yeah, I knew he had three surgeries but didn’t remember offhand if one was a shoulder

12:56
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Do have to go fairly strictly at 1:00, I’m supposed to drop off my car at the body shop by 1:30

12:56
mmddyyyy: What is your job title?

12:56
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Senior Writer

12:56
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Though I don’t really get hung up on titles

12:56
West Coast Bias Truther: What does Cal Raleigh need to do to become the MVP frontrunner?

12:56
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Possibly murder Aaron Judge and not get caughyt?

12:56
Garth: Tejay Antone is working his way back from his 3rd TJS.

12:56
ajake57: Sorry, Venters had 4 TJs!

12:57
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Ack

12:57
John B: Jordan Walker –  would you send him down one last time or just hang in there?

12:57
Avatar Dan Szymborski: send him down. he’s not helping the team

12:57
Avatar Dan Szymborski: good catch

12:57
ajake57: 4 TJs and shoulder capsule repair, according to wikipedia

12:58
MilwaukeeBeerJays: Is Cal Raleigh the best catcher in baseball now? Will Contreras has jit a wall, Rutschman has hit a larger bigger wall, realmuto is on the back 9 and bowling ball kirk can’t hit like cal.

12:58
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Yes+

12:58
Adam: Have you ever caught a foul ball or home run?

12:58
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I have never caught a home run. I do have a Craig Worthington foul ball

12:58
Not Cal Raleigh: Someone else could murder Aaron Judge, it doens’t have to be Cal.

12:58
Avatar Dan Szymborski: But if he did it and didn’t get caught, that’s an extremely valuable win contribution

12:58
Honkus Wagner: brat toppings, whats the top tier?

12:59
Avatar Dan Szymborski: on brat, kraut or GFY

12:59
RasiedUp: I was having this conversation with my brother law over the weekend. But it feels like when teams are up in day games there is less chance of a comeback vs night games. Is that just a weird bias I feel?

12:59
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think it may be simply observational bias, but I don’t actually KNOW for sure

12:59
Will: One of the things I’ve noticed in guys who have come up to the MLB this year and had trouble (Jac Caglianone, Roman Anthony, Kristian Campbell after his hot start) is a super high % of ground balls in the minor leagues and/or a high GB/FB ratio. Is that something you keep an eye out for when you look at prospects/do you think teams overlook it when deciding to call up prospects from the minor leagues? (Sorry long question I know)

12:59
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I haven’t found a systematic quality to this in translations

1:00
Adam: Should MLB players play in the 2028 Olympics?

1:00
Avatar Dan Szymborski: No, because I think the Olympics are a dumb place to showcase baseball

1:00
Avatar Dan Szymborski: WBC is better at being baseball’s Olympics than the actual Olympics could possibly be

1:00
Avatar Dan Szymborski: And I like less prominent sports getting the attention

1:01
Jacob: Rasmussen has had 3 surgeries for his elbow 2 TJS and 1 internal brace surgery

1:01
War2d2: Need caramelized onions on a brat, come on now

1:01
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’m weird, I prefer onions raw

1:01
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I like the pungency and the crunch

1:01
Avatar Dan Szymborski: If I can’t get the onions raw on a cheesesteak, then just wiz

1:02
glt4dc: With the NBA draft going on, it’s interesting (to me, anyways) how much more willing NBA teams are willing to include first round picks (and swaps), than NFL teams, which are much more tight-fisted with trading them.  Anyhow, given this is a baseball site, I was wondering if MLB ever decided to let teams trade draft picks, would teams be more likely to adopt an NBA or NFL approach/valuation of these picks?

1:02
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Draft pick trading would have CBA implications, so that’s the big reason MLB hasn’t gone there

1:02
Avatar Dan Szymborski: And on that note, I really have to go. Body shop is 15 minutes away and I’m not even dressed

1:02
Avatar Dan Szymborski: see you all!





Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.

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bookbookMember since 2024
1 hour ago

“You recently mentioned preseason team projections actually do a better job projecting the following season’s results than the upcoming season’s results.” I think, Dan, you may need to clarify for the questioner that the preseason projections before season 1 outperform the actual results from season 1 at projecting season 2. It is (to my knowledge) NOT true that projections before season 1 actually predict the results of season 2 more accurately than they predict the immediately upcoming season 1.

PS The Mariners used to trend towards green – they are too blue now.