Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 6/26/25
| 11:59 |
: It’s chat time!
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| 12:01 |
: Half of the Astros current rotation is basically guys picked up off the scrap heap. Is their performance sustainable and do any of them have middle rotation potential going forward?
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| 12:02 |
: This is something the Astros are really good at, though. And really, most of the rotation is just averageish, which is sustainable. Brown and Valdez being good really carries the group and there’s no reason to be suspicious
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| 12:02 |
: If the Twins decide to sell pieces off. What would you expect the market for Buxton and/or Correa to be? Buxton would have to wave his no trade, but I think he might if they are out of the WC race at the deadline.
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| 12:04 |
: I’d expect Buxton, if actually tradeable, would fetch a good price. Correa’s been kind of meh, so I don’t think the Twins would get a nice return if they’re not eating money
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| 12:04 |
: Dan, what are the major issues with the expected lockout after the 2026 season?
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| 12:04 |
: Well, the owners are making noise about a salary cap, though it remains to be seen whether this is just rhetoric to “concede” later.
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| 12:05 |
: The fundamental issues for players – slower salary growth than MLB’s revenue growth – remains just what it was
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| 12:05 |
: The service time games, at least, haven’t been generally as obvious as in the past
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| 12:05 |
: Hi Dan! I’ve been running Volpe out there as my SS in a 5×5 keeper league, but he’s been meh. Correa is available off the wire (because he’s been trbl). The thing is, Correa seems to be heating up, and he has the track record. Would you stick with Volpe or make the switch? I don’t have the roster space to carry both. Thanks!
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| 12:06 |
: In a KEEPER league, I’d probably hang onto Volpe over Correa
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| 12:06 |
: It’s shocking to me how badly B. Reynolds has played for the Buccos this year. Just bad luck or is this what his career winding down looks like?
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| 12:07 |
: THIS bad, it’s shocking. However, 2021 was never the player he was, he’s a league-averageish player.
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| 12:07 |
: But the thing is, this is a bit too soon for a cliff to be typical
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| 12:08 |
: You recently mentioned preseason team projections actually do a better job projecting the following season’s results than the upcoming season’s results. Why would that be? And wouldn’t that be cause to make changes to the model for the upcoming season? Have you already done that?
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| 12:08 |
: Because recency bias is huge
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| 12:09 |
: And obviously, you wouldn’t predict 2026 using 2025’s preseason projections
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| 12:09 |
: It’s only interesting that it’s more predictive than ACTUAL 2025 data
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| 12:10 |
: Out of Vientos, Baty, Mauricio, and Acuna, should the percentages suggest that at least one should be able to cover 3B for the Mets at a league-average level for a couple of years? Or is this a case of a 4 guys with a 25% chance of working out not adding up to 100%?
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| 12:10 |
: PIcking out WHO is the tricky part. I’m more bullish on Vientos than his current offensive numbers, though Baty’s almost certainly the superior fielder
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| 12:10 |
: I’m not sure the latter two have enough chance to hit enough to really be plausible 3B, but who knows
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| 12:10 |
: What is the difference between Hard Hit% and Hard %? FG seems to have two, one is from Baseball Info Solutions and the other seems to be more regularly used. Why one over another?
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| 12:11 |
: Statcast uses 95 mph. I don’t think BIS uses a bright line, but I COULD be wrong
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| 12:12 |
: and really, the differences aren’t enough to really agonize about
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| 12:12 |
: Which non-baseball thing would ZiPS be best at?
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| 12:12 |
: Heating my office
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| 12:12 |
: Which non-baseball thing would Szymborski, Dan be best at?
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| 12:12 |
: video games, piano
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| 12:12 |
: I believe you mentioned that you are an agnostic. Would believing in a simulated reality challenge that considering a simulation would have a creator/creators?
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| 12:13 |
: I’m agnostic. I lack sufficient evidence of the state of the universe to know one way or the other
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| 12:13 |
: and I do believe there’s a chance that we’re in a simulation, though it doesn’t have any practical effect
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| 12:13 |
: Which non-baseball thing is best?
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| 12:14 |
: tacos?
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| 12:14 |
: The dispensationalists have taken over. Lord help us!
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| 12:14 |
: Projection question: if two guys in AAA have the same stats on everything, but one is 21 years old and one is 27, would they project differently just for the rest of the season? I ask because it seems like whenever we see an old guy killing it in AAA he still isn’t useful even on the bench in the majors
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| 12:14 |
: short term, USUALLY no. It’s more o f along term thing
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| 12:14 |
: but you rarely get disputes that neat
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| 12:14 |
: Do you think the emphasis on swing speed metrics could lead to an increase in back injuries among hitters? Could this become an endemic issue, similar to how advanced pitching data has coincided with a rise in elbow surgeries?
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| 12:15 |
: Unfortunately, I know little more about human physiology than a general idea how babies are made. I would imagine that swing speed could cause more back injuries in people who swing BADLY
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| 12:15 |
: I imagine that most players get good enough coaching by this level that it probalby doesn’t make a difference
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| 12:15 |
: but this is an educated guess. I don’t KNOW
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| 12:15 |
: How much of your trolling me and other White Sox fans do you think factored in to the bad karma that is apparently clobbering your Baltimore Orioles?
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| 12:16 |
: I troll everyone and everything! Half of commentary journalism is trolling
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| 12:17 |
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| 12:17 |
: Will we look back on this as the best half season in Andy Pages’ career, or is there even more there?
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| 12:17 |
: I expect this is LIKELY what his peak looks like
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| 12:17 |
: What do I do with Oneil Cruz? He’s hurting my team. Do I bench him? Trade him?
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| 12:18 |
: I’ll always be patient with the SS who hits balls with the velocity of protons in the large hadron collider
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| 12:18 |
: Dan Dan, the fantasy man, have you seen Final Fantasy MTG yet, and are you a filthy commander player?
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| 12:19 |
: I haven’t played MTG in 30 years really.
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| 12:19 |
: I rarely had friends to play and I never really got back into it
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| 12:20 |
: What would you offer Judge for a 3-4 year free agent deal this offseason?
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| 12:20 |
: a small country
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| 12:20 |
: If I could get him on a 3 year deal, I’d have zero qualms about offering $70 million per
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| 12:20 |
: Well, unless I have to pay for it. I don’t have $70 million
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| 12:20 |
: I look at Michael Harris’ preseason zips projection. Then I look at his numbers this season. Then I cry, dear god what has happened.
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| 12:20 |
: Yeah, that ZiPS projection isn’t going well
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| 12:21 |
: Are the Savannah Bananas good/bad/neutral for baseball?
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| 12:21 |
: I am always for nonsense
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| 12:23 |
: Would you let Ohtani pitch if you ran the Dodgers?
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| 12:23 |
: Yes
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| 12:23 |
: I PAID FOR THE CRUISE CONTROL AND MOONROOF
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| 12:23 |
: Well, I guess cars come with the cruise control don’t they?
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| 12:23 |
: insert another optional safeety feature
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| 12:23 |
: Can you see deep learning methods, particularly newer RNN and transformer architectures, improving existing projection models?
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| 12:23 |
: Certainly possible! Though I think we’ll only see incremental games
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| 12:23 |
: Is Walker Buehler in big big trouble, or just trouble? It’s all command, I think–the stuff looks OK–but it obviously needs to be fixed.
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| 12:24 |
: moderate trouble
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| 12:24 |
: Tucker has been great, but probably not an MVP candidate. What does Zips think his next contract looks like at this point?
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| 12:24 |
: $3 something last I checked
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| 12:24 |
: But who knows – there just aren’t many bats avaialble in FA next couple years
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| 12:25 |
: If you ran the Cubs and with the benefit of hindsight, would you have topped the Astros to sign Hader?
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| 12:25 |
: Probably not
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| 12:25 |
: I’d sign Tucker for $3!
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| 12:25 |
: Quiet you!
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| 12:25 |
: Why is it when you look at the Statcast Batted Ball Profile Leaderboard the results are sorted by Pull Air %? I understand its importance, however, I wouldn’t think that would be the end all for balls put into play.
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| 12:26 |
: It’s a pretty big deal though! remember https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-pulled-fly-ball-revolution-was-always-…
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| 12:30 |
: Could you see the Rangers trading Corey Seager? He has 6/$186 (salary not AAV) after this year. When thinking about the Mets and their deficiencies and also long term roster building, taking on Seager’s contract seems like a worthwhile risk compared to giving Alonso a 5 year deal worth around $30 million a year. Thanks!
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| 12:30 |
: I don’t see them doing that
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| 12:30 |
: they didn’t do a huge rebuild when things were going far far worse
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| 12:30 |
: and I dont’ think there’s been a fundamental change in the org
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| 12:31 |
: and they’re only a couple games out in the wild card!
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| 12:31 |
: If you owned the Rockies, what type of team would you try to build to maximize your chance at sustainable winning? Feels like they’ve tried numerous different philosophies over the years but can’t seem to overcome the altitude. (Or is the altitude just an excuse?)
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| 12:31 |
: I think trying to build a specific TYPE of team runs you into trouble
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| 12:31 |
: The general strategy should be to opportunistically build as good a team as possible. Be more concerned about the quality than the archetype
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| 12:32 |
: Do you know of a way to find out the highest single game pitch counts in a game over the last ten years or so? I messed around in the leaderboards recently and I couldn’t find a way to do so.
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| 12:32 |
: I think stathead has that, I don’t think we do
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| 12:32 |
: FanGraphs notwithstanding, why aren’t there more nerds in baseball? Every time I see Michael Busch all I can think of is Simon Pegg – are we sure they’re not related?
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| 12:32 |
: athletes are usually too busy to do all the nerd stuff
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| 12:36 |
: Which Dan cat would product the highest Barrel%?
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| 12:36 |
: Justinian
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| 12:36 |
: he’s easily the most athletic of my current cats
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| 12:36 |
: Though when he was alive, it would have been Galileo
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| 12:36 |
: Who’s the best player that the fewest people in this chat have ever heard of?
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| 12:36 |
: Joe Kelley?
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| 12:36 |
: Ryan Pepiot has already done more for the Rays than Glasnow has for the Dodgers. Can we just admit that Glasnow is made of fragile glass?
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| 12:36 |
: Shoudl change his name to Glaslater\
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| 12:36 |
: How many more years of pitching at this level would you need to see from deGrom for him to be a HoF for you?
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| 12:37 |
: I’m not sure the answer isn’t 0
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| 12:37 |
: But I’m more of a peak guy than the vast vast majority of BBWAA members
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| 12:37 |
: I would have voted for Johan Santana
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| 12:37 |
: and I’m seriously thinking about votes for King Felix and David Wright
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| 12:37 |
: So how long before Jacob Misiorowski takes over the world?
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| 12:37 |
: He needs a larger army
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| 12:39 |
: what’s for lunch?
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| 12:40 |
: various cheeses and a very spicy pickle. I was at Jungle Jim’s yesterday
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| 12:40 |
: Aren’t Henderson and Cowser always doing Lego and Star Wars stuff?
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| 12:40 |
: Yeah, but that stuff is cooler than it used to be!
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| 12:40 |
: After winning the World Series, Sean Doolittle was just wandering around the infield playing with a lightsaber
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| 12:40 |
: Jacob Merceniorowski
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| 12:42 |
: I’m a big “peak” HoF guy. Anyone who throws a perfect game should be in.
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| 12:42 |
: Tha’ts a little short a peak for me!
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| 12:44 |
: Are the Athletics the only team with green as a primary uniform color?
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| 12:44 |
: I believe they’re the only MLB team in history to use green as their primary color, not just an alternate or a secondary trim or something
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| 12:44 |
: At least modern baseball – I don’t know every uniform of the 1800s
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| 12:45 |
: but I imagine they were mostly the offwhite or gray
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| 12:46 |
: Re DeGrom, if his 2021 season was authored by a reliever, we’d be talking about one of the greatest relief seasons of all time, on par with Gagne in ‘03. Instead he gets 10th place for Cy vote and his season is relegated to the dustbin of history. In short, injuries suck and we can’t have nice things
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| 12:46 |
: I’m a “big peak” HOF gal, it doesn’t matter how good your peak was as long as it lasted a long time
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| 12:46 |
: Mark Teixiera is super into musicals. Not classic nerding, but quite nerdy nonetheless.
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| 12:47 |
: I’m a sucker for musicals too
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| 12:47 |
: I think the Devil Rays used some off-green? Maybe I just remember it that way because they sucked so bad.
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| 12:47 |
: yeah, but it wasn’t really prominent the way it is with the A’s
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| 12:47 |
: Better movie – Ghostbusters 2 or Robocop 2?
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| 12:47 |
: Ghostbusters
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| 12:50 |
: Is 2 the most possible TJS?
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| 12:50 |
: I woudl think you could possibly do more, but I’m unaware of anyone who had more than 2
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| 12:50 |
: Did Venters?
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| 12:50 |
: That is the correct answer. Thank you Dan.
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| 12:50 |
: I didn’t know I was getting rated!
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| 12:50 |
: Buxton has a NTC, no chance is he traded
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| 12:51 |
: everybody has a price
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| 12:52 |
: How many submariners are left in pro ball?
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| 12:52 |
: They are still around!
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| 12:52 |
: I can’t claim to know every minor league submariner
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| 12:53 |
: but I’d call Rogers/Hill/Thompson as clearly submariner
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| 12:53 |
: and then there’s a bunch of guys where it depends on your sidearm/submarine cutoff
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| 12:53 |
: like lawrence
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| 12:54 |
: and milner
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| 12:54 |
: Amen to voting for Santana and DeGrom for the HOF. Spending in this era shows that teams value upper-tier performance far more than consistency/durability. Could you imagine the bidding for Santana today after his ’03-’07 run today?
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| 12:54 |
: Do pitchers pitch better when they get run support?
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| 12:54 |
: I haven’t found a correlation
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| 12:54 |
: Yes, Venters had 3
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| 12:54 |
: Yeah, I knew he had three surgeries but didn’t remember offhand if one was a shoulder
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| 12:56 |
: Do have to go fairly strictly at 1:00, I’m supposed to drop off my car at the body shop by 1:30
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| 12:56 |
: What is your job title?
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| 12:56 |
: Senior Writer
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| 12:56 |
: Though I don’t really get hung up on titles
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| 12:56 |
: What does Cal Raleigh need to do to become the MVP frontrunner?
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| 12:56 |
: Possibly murder Aaron Judge and not get caughyt?
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| 12:56 |
: Tejay Antone is working his way back from his 3rd TJS.
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| 12:56 |
: Sorry, Venters had 4 TJs!
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| 12:57 |
: Ack
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| 12:57 |
: Jordan Walker – would you send him down one last time or just hang in there?
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| 12:57 |
: send him down. he’s not helping the team
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| 12:57 |
| 12:57 |
: good catch
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| 12:57 |
: 4 TJs and shoulder capsule repair, according to wikipedia
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| 12:58 |
: Is Cal Raleigh the best catcher in baseball now? Will Contreras has jit a wall, Rutschman has hit a larger bigger wall, realmuto is on the back 9 and bowling ball kirk can’t hit like cal.
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| 12:58 |
: Yes+
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| 12:58 |
: Have you ever caught a foul ball or home run?
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| 12:58 |
: I have never caught a home run. I do have a Craig Worthington foul ball
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| 12:58 |
: Someone else could murder Aaron Judge, it doens’t have to be Cal.
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| 12:58 |
: But if he did it and didn’t get caught, that’s an extremely valuable win contribution
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| 12:58 |
: brat toppings, whats the top tier?
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| 12:59 |
: on brat, kraut or GFY
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| 12:59 |
: I was having this conversation with my brother law over the weekend. But it feels like when teams are up in day games there is less chance of a comeback vs night games. Is that just a weird bias I feel?
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| 12:59 |
: I think it may be simply observational bias, but I don’t actually KNOW for sure
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| 12:59 |
: One of the things I’ve noticed in guys who have come up to the MLB this year and had trouble (Jac Caglianone, Roman Anthony, Kristian Campbell after his hot start) is a super high % of ground balls in the minor leagues and/or a high GB/FB ratio. Is that something you keep an eye out for when you look at prospects/do you think teams overlook it when deciding to call up prospects from the minor leagues? (Sorry long question I know)
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| 12:59 |
: I haven’t found a systematic quality to this in translations
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| 1:00 |
: Should MLB players play in the 2028 Olympics?
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| 1:00 |
: No, because I think the Olympics are a dumb place to showcase baseball
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| 1:00 |
: WBC is better at being baseball’s Olympics than the actual Olympics could possibly be
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| 1:00 |
: And I like less prominent sports getting the attention
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| 1:01 |
: Rasmussen has had 3 surgeries for his elbow 2 TJS and 1 internal brace surgery
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| 1:01 |
: Need caramelized onions on a brat, come on now
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| 1:01 |
: I’m weird, I prefer onions raw
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| 1:01 |
: I like the pungency and the crunch
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| 1:01 |
: If I can’t get the onions raw on a cheesesteak, then just wiz
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| 1:02 |
: With the NBA draft going on, it’s interesting (to me, anyways) how much more willing NBA teams are willing to include first round picks (and swaps), than NFL teams, which are much more tight-fisted with trading them. Anyhow, given this is a baseball site, I was wondering if MLB ever decided to let teams trade draft picks, would teams be more likely to adopt an NBA or NFL approach/valuation of these picks?
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| 1:02 |
: Draft pick trading would have CBA implications, so that’s the big reason MLB hasn’t gone there
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| 1:02 |
: And on that note, I really have to go. Body shop is 15 minutes away and I’m not even dressed
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| 1:02 |
: see you all!
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Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.
“You recently mentioned preseason team projections actually do a better job projecting the following season’s results than the upcoming season’s results.” I think, Dan, you may need to clarify for the questioner that the preseason projections before season 1 outperform the actual results from season 1 at projecting season 2. It is (to my knowledge) NOT true that projections before season 1 actually predict the results of season 2 more accurately than they predict the immediately upcoming season 1.
PS The Mariners used to trend towards green – they are too blue now.