Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 6/3/13
11:57 |
: LION-O, IT’S TIME FOR DAN SHIMBORSHKEY’S WEEKLY CHAT SNARF SNARF!
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11:57 |
I missed your scent. I missed your musk… When this all gets sorted out, I think you and me should get an apartment together! |
11:57 |
: I haven’t showered yet today, so you probably don’t actually miss my musky scents.
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11:58 |
Am I the most underrated player in the league? |
11:58 |
: Heh.
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11:59 |
: Perhaps whatever’s keeping C.C. Sabathia’s pants up
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11:59 |
If Zimmerman has to move off 3rd, where best to play him? lf/rf? 1st? |
11:59 |
: 1st appears to be most likely.
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12:00 |
: Let’s see where his D ends up by end of season. 2 months defense numbers dicey, even if they match how he’s looked
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12:00 |
How do you think Puig will perform in the big leagues? |
12:00 |
: Haven’t run anything for him yet. I’ll crank out a zMLE while we’re doing this.
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12:00 |
: I have two pieces to finish up for tomorrow, so I’m keeping strictly to 1 PM today.
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12:01 |
As a book reader did you enjoy last nights GoT episode? I found it fantastic! |
12:01 |
: Terrific episode and well done, but I will post no spoilers, be they from my mouth or questions.
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12:01 |
what do you envision from RA Dickey rest of season? what if he were to climb Mount Kilimanjaro over the all-star break? |
12:01 |
: I keep thinking he’ll come around. The Jays pitching has been a mess and the disaster has caught me by surprise. Pretty much everything that could go wrong has.
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12:01 |
Thoughts on the D-Backs rotation situation? They have Hudson coming back and a plethora of young arms… I think they should trade Kennedy/Kubel for a bat who can sit behind Goldschmidt at 3, who doesn’t platoon and who gives them plus defense. |
12:02 |
: They won’t. Hudson’s probably going to have to earn his way back in. Someone in rotation has to get traded at some point.
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12:02 |
Thanks for chatting, Dan! I’d like to know what you think of (*CRASH*) (*THUD*) (*SHATTERING NOISE)…Sorry, I gotta run to the trainer’s room. |
12:02 |
Zips doesn’t like Shelby Miller much. Does it know that he just throws fastballs and that’s a strange thing for a starter to do? |
12:03 |
: I’d hardly call a 3.88 ERA not liking. In-season, it knows nothing about the pitches, but the 2014 projection will.
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12:03 |
With Myers seeming to right the ship down in AAA recently, have your expectations changed any concerning his ROS projections? |
12:04 |
: No. ZiPS had him at 253/317/444 into the season and that’s not far off from his where his 2013 zMLE has been (eyeballing)
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12:05 |
: ZiPS translates Puig so far as 268/317/503
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12:06 |
: Myers a little lower htan I thought because of the K (228/294/388)
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12:06 |
: Though a 253/317/444 guy having a 228/294/388 run isn’t the strangest thing in the world.
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12:07 |
Carlos Gomez! Turning into a superstar? You buying this? |
12:07 |
: Whether or not we buy it, it’s been charged to the card, UPS dropped it off, and there’s a very inflexible return policy.
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12:07 |
: Even if we don’t think he’s this good, our expectations should be increased now.
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12:07 |
What’s up with Ben Zobrist? |
12:08 |
: Bad 2 months.
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12:08 |
will ageless Bartolo Colon continue to be a 3.50 ERA/ 1.15 whip guy ROS w/ his BB stinginess? |
12:08 |
: I’d go a tad higher with ERA, though he’s a solid inning eater.
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12:08 |
: and from the looks of it, a solid other stuff eater
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12:08 |
personally, i think zimmerman’s D has been phenomenal. how rare is it for a guy to play that well with a ruined wreck for a throwing arm? he even occasionally gets the ball all the way to first base |
12:09 |
Thoughts on the Jays rotation? They spent a mountain of cash, and seem to be in win now mode… any chance they move along some of these young arms like Sanchez? |
12:09 |
: I think they’re going to hope for a turnaround with the guys they haev
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12:10 |
: They have 24-33 in the books now, after all, so new win-now moves aren’t helping much.
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12:10 |
: Even if they play as well as we thought they would over the rest of the season, they’re still not a playoff team. They have to play better than we thought, so the odds are tough.
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12:10 |
What do you envision for Jayson Werth ROS once he returns from the DL? |
12:11 |
: Not too much. He can draw some walks, but the Nats did not make a good move in signing him.
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12:11 |
: Unlike the Jays rotation collapse, at least *that* one I called at the time
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12:11 |
Both board and the pirates talked about a Pedro Alvarez extension…. if you were the buccos would you consider it? I think its an awful idea. |
12:11 |
: There’s a price it’s a good idea and a price it’s not. You shoudl consider everything.
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12:12 |
What is the best thing for the Indians to do with Asdrubal Cabrera? |
12:12 |
: Nothing
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12:12 |
Is Matt Joyce underrated? |
12:12 |
: Slightly. At this pint, I think he’s approaching being rated.
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12:13 |
Trade Justin Upton for Kershaw?? |
12:13 |
: I’d pull that trigger.
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12:13 |
Not sure if fantasy questions are ok, so apologies in advance if they’re not. Standard league (5 x 5) just traded Fowler and Griffin for Han Ram and Homer Bailey. thoughts? |
12:13 |
: Doesn’t seem unreasonable for either side at a quick glance.
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12:13 |
Any random thoughts on George Springer? |
12:14 |
: Astros need to get him up to AAA.
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12:14 |
the padres have been a pleasant surprise this year. what do you think they should do with their rotation ROS to best capitalize on their surprisingly not-terrible start? |
12:15 |
: Honestly, I don’t think there’s enough they can do in-season to make them a real contender.
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12:15 |
: Well, realistically.
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12:16 |
Why am I still a major league regular? |
12:16 |
: In season, the Dodgers can’t go apeship and sign Jamey Carroll to 3-years, $50 million or something
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12:16 |
Ah relaxing on a deck chair in the garden, ah damn ive gotta mow the lawn soon, oh well. |
12:16 |
: I hate mowing the lawn!
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12:16 |
: It was supposed to rain an assload sunday so I could put it off, but it didn’t!
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12:17 |
: How did a midwest weather system the size of Eric Wedge’s dumbassness miss southwest ohio?
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12:17 |
What has been the flukiest performance this season (be it team or individual)? |
12:17 |
: Westbrook?
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12:17 |
any idea why Sano is still in A ball? also, when do you expect his arrival to the show? |
12:18 |
: Honeslty don’t know. I would’ve already promoted him.
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12:18 |
: (not to Minnesota, of course)
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12:18 |
was just offered his Josh Hamilton for my Matt Harvey. Should I take this and run? |
12:18 |
: No.
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12:19 |
: Josh Hamilton’s fantasy numbers were inevitably going to take a hit even if he stayed solid
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12:19 |
: I liked Harvey a lot and for obvious reasons, I like him even more now
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12:20 |
What is to become of Overbay? |
12:21 |
: As I understand it, one day he will die and his remains will erode over time. Then in a few hundred million years, he’ll turn to oil and they’ll put him in trucks, then the sun will incinerate the earth, charring anything that remains, and eventually the heat death of the universe will leave existence a dark, cold, lifeless place for eternity once the black holes dissolve.
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12:22 |
: Or he could end up with the Royals.
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12:22 |
: Not sure which.
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12:22 |
If you could have dinner with one active ballplayer, who would it be? |
12:22 |
: Maybe Breslow because he’s the smartest player in baseball. Or maybe Bartolo Colon because he looks like a man that knows where to get good cuisine.
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12:22 |
Is Chris Davis for real? No one saw this coming. Jesus Montero and Dustin Ackley were drafted before him |
12:23 |
: A tthis point, mostly. Davis always had power, the question was if he could ever do enough to make use of it.
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12:23 |
: I mean, he’s not going to have an 1100 OPS or anything
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12:23 |
: But I’mf airly certain at this point he’s a real plus going forward
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12:23 |
Your current match-up prediction for the NLCS? Thanks! |
12:24 |
: ATL/STL
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12:24 |
The Angels will be all in for a top-flight SP at the deadline, no? |
12:24 |
: I’m not sure they’re going to be close enough to matter.
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12:24 |
: Unelss it’s a guy they can have for multiple seaosns
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12:24 |
In a desperate position, you must fight |
12:25 |
: That’s why, in Romance of the Three Kingdoms, they let Zhang Jiao’s troops flee (I think Ru Nan) and butchered them afterwards rather than bottle them up.
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12:25 |
Is Hosmer kinda sorta coming back? |
12:25 |
: I don’t even know anymore.
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12:25 |
Gyorko is raking! Think Bill James projection of 25 HR and 90 RBI is within grasp? Debating between starting this cat or Profar at 2B… |
12:26 |
: He’s not hitting 25 this year. *Maybe* the 90, but I’d guess no.
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12:27 |
so who is the marlins’ all star representative this year? fernandez? |
12:27 |
: Seems the most logical.
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12:27 |
Nick Markakis has always been a solid player, but this year he’s on fire? Most underrated fantasy player maybe? |
12:28 |
: I’d hardly call his year on fire. He’s having the usual typically B+ Markakis season.
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12:28 |
God you must get so much sh*t sent through here, dont they filter any of it out? |
12:28 |
: I imagine God filters quite a lot of stuff or he’d go insane.
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12:28 |
: GOD HELP ME WIN FOOTBALL GAME!
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12:28 |
at what point does a sample size become significant enough that you are comfortable saying someone has changed (buchholz) or has been underestimated (corbin)? |
12:29 |
: It’s not a linear question in that way. The bigger the change, the smaller the sample size needed. The more volatile the state in question, the bigger the sample size needed.
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12:29 |
What’s the best thing for the Indians to do with Asdrubal Cabrera. He’s on the last year of his contract, and Lindor could be ready in a year or two. |
12:29 |
: He’s signed for $11-12 million, I think, for next season.
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12:30 |
Seems like there’s been some discussion that the current understanding of DIPS underrates consistent groundball pitchers. Does that mean there’s a possibility that it overrates strikeout pitchers, too? |
12:30 |
: Not particularly. We’re talkign things at the margins at this point, really.
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12:30 |
Juan Francisco just landed in MIL: starting 1B for them? |
12:30 |
: He ought to be.
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12:31 |
What does Zips say the track record is for guys in full season ball at 16? Curious re: Urias should he stay in A |
12:31 |
: I don’t usually project those guys
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12:31 |
Dan, Clay Buchholz has been, oh let’s say, pretty good this season. What’s he doing differently this season as opposed to the past? |
12:31 |
: sounds like you’re baiting me into a cheating Q sneakily!
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12:32 |
: He *looks* to me like he’s better at changing speeds, but in truth, I’ve seen like 3 or 4 of his starts so it’ shard to conclude
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12:32 |
: I’d actually have to go back and look at the game videos, but I can’t do that in the context of a chat
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12:32 |
Ozuna just enjoying some babip magic or is he actually this good? |
12:33 |
: Nobody’s a true .420 BABIP guy
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12:33 |
Should Kinsler be shagging fly balls in LF during his rehab games? Profar making a case he has to be kept up. |
12:33 |
: The Kinslayer should be.
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12:33 |
Brandon Beachy: overrated? Or are we giving him a pass on that K-rate drop he showed last year since he ended up needing TJ? |
12:34 |
: It’s hard to put up a season like his 2011 without being at least a solid pitcher
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12:34 |
Pick up Puig ASAP? |
12:34 |
: There’s a lot of unknowns about Puig still, but he’s certainly worth a back of the roster look-see if nobody else in your league has done so
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12:34 |
How much more rope do the Mets give Collins? |
12:34 |
: I think he’s always been thought of as a caretaker manager until such time that they don’t suck
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12:35 |
: I actually expect him to stay manager as long as they pay him
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12:35 |
: The Wilpons have like $900 million in loans due the next 2 years and they’re out of stuff to leverage
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12:35 |
Are they really going to send Profar down once Kinsler gets back? |
12:35 |
: I hope not. It’s very hard to send Profar down.
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12:36 |
Alex Colome primed to leap-frog Chris Archer into the TB rotation? |
12:36 |
: Colome’s been lights-out in the minors this year. Both will eventually get chances, the Rays aren’t ones to let minor league pitchers rot.
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12:37 |
Do I trade Yadi Molina and Fister for Posey and V Mart? |
12:37 |
: Technically, you’re trading Yadier Molina, Doug Fister, and the state of not having Victor Martinez on your roster for Buster Posey.
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12:38 |
: I’d rather have Yadi and The Man With the Unfortunate Last Name
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12:38 |
If the Jays really are hoping for a turnaround with their rotation, or team in general, they really have to wait for next season, don’t they? even if they rebound this year they’re too far behind to make it past the rest of the AL East. And if they’re waiting for next season do they still sell anyone at the deadline? |
12:38 |
: I don’t think they sell unless it really gets dire
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12:38 |
Is Desmond pretty much the player who he is? Hes similar to Lawrie in that he dominated in his cup of coffee, elevated expatations and then has disapointed since. |
12:38 |
: He is what he is. He’s not a bad player, just not 2012 good
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12:39 |
: Lawrie’s tough – I’m not sure if he’s really fully healthy
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12:39 |
Why the heck did it take so long for the Brewers to abandon the three shortstop infield? |
12:39 |
: I have no firetrucking idea. Gorman Thomas would have done a better job at first. Right now.
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12:40 |
What’s the market look like for LaRoche if they want to move Zimm to first now? |
12:40 |
: Not very. I don’t think they will. And they’re getting Rendon back to 2nd at Syracuse
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12:41 |
Hey Zimmy, how do you calculate the exact time at which a player becomes rated? Is it a complex mathematical equation churned out by a supercomputer or does God send down a sign from the high heavens? |
12:41 |
: I go into a forest and let pareidolia work its magic.
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12:41 |
Since it’s me, think Belnome should be getting a shot somewhere with the Rays? I’m certainly curious what his MLE is thusfar, and D looks passable. |
12:42 |
: I know which Dan this is!
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12:42 |
: I’d like to see him get a shot somewhere as a utility guy
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12:42 |
what is Dominic Brown on and where can we get it? |
12:43 |
: It’s a reverse-ET thing. The suckier Delmon Young plays, the more power Domonic Brown gets.
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12:43 |
: Or like that terrible episode of Star Trek TNG in which some federation negotiator sucks life force out of women that are into him.
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12:44 |
Give me some hope for Josh Johnson…or is there really none to be had? |
12:44 |
: Very worried. The continued degradation of his command is extremely worrying.
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12:44 |
What would you do with Profar when Kinsler comes back from injury? |
12:45 |
: Kinsler in left short-term, explore trades in offseason
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12:45 |
At what point do people need to accept that Hamilton might not regress back to his historical mean and instead develop a new trend line for a rebound expectation? |
12:46 |
: Never, appparently. But at least that gives me easy article topic.
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12:46 |
What’s up with Zach Greinke? |
12:46 |
: He’s been strangely erratic. I think perhaps they brought him back too quickly
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12:46 |
Is it time to worry about Matt Cain? |
12:47 |
: I wouldn’t yet. He just got the xFIP gods really angry.
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12:47 |
: Well, I’d still worry about him, but because he’s a pitcher.
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12:48 |
What intellectual references would you like Damien Sandow to make in the near future on Raw/smackdown? Also, thoughts on the final word in the spelling bee being something 10 different spellings SHOULD be “right” for? |
12:48 |
: Speak only in dactylic hexameter.
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12:48 |
: I’m not up on the latest Spelling Bee news.
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12:49 |
: However, as a policy, spelling bees should be chock-full of homonyms because it wood make children cry.
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12:49 |
Should I drop Nicasio in a deep dynasty league? He stinks! |
12:49 |
: In a deep dynasty, I’d still hang onto him
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12:49 |
will Nick Franklin hit over 12 hr’s the rest of the way? |
12:49 |
: no
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12:50 |
Brewers just called up Scooter Gennett. Will he out perform Weeks ROS? |
12:50 |
: I still prefer WEeks
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12:51 |
Should I sell out my farm team in roto to get Heyward? |
12:51 |
: I would not. You should be able to get a better deal than usual right now and Heyward does some things that roto doesn’t really reward.
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12:52 |
Has matt carpenter played Wong out of the job? |
12:52 |
: Short-term, possibly. We’ll have to see what the Cards see as their needs in offsseason
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12:52 |
What do you do in the offseason if you were Sandy to fix the Mets? |
12:52 |
: Regicide? What do you call owner killign?
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12:52 |
: Douchebagcide?
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12:52 |
Do you see Dominic brown as a solid big league regular? |
12:52 |
: Yeah, though not quite to this degree. I think he’ll be average-to-good
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12:53 |
Do you believe in the “new” Neal Cotts? What about new Coello? Think the latter will ever give up another grounder…? |
12:53 |
: Cotts has been pretty frigging awesome.
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12:53 |
: He wasn’t even walking guys in the minors this year.
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12:53 |
: Even in his good ERA year years ago, he was pretty erratic
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12:54 |
: Though Scott Rice appearing int he majors is even wackier alternate universe stuff
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12:54 |
: Who would’ve thought 6 years ago that Scott Rice would play in the majors after Ben Sheets retired?
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12:54 |
Much rather be incinerated than end up with the Royals! |
12:55 |
Please reassure me that the Cardinals will not continue to hit .341 (.402 BABIP!) with runners in scoring position all season. |
12:55 |
: They won’t.
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12:55 |
Can the ZiPs computer make the White Sox better? Can I bribe you to fudge the projections you send up to Elias, the Roman God of Baseball Results? |
12:55 |
: If I had such power, do you think Scott Podsednik would have ever started for the White Sox?
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12:55 |
I wouldn’t consider Bartolo Colon an “active ballplayer.” I mean, he currently plays baseball in the major leagues, but his figure does not suggest someone who is active. |
12:56 |
Rendon? Can he stay healthy enough to be a legitimate major leaguer? Projections? |
12:56 |
: I think he’ll be good. Not going to bank on his health
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12:57 |
Ernesto Frieri :: Carlos Marmol as…. |
12:57 |
: Hmm
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12:58 |
: Andronikos I Komnenos :: Artaxerxes V of Persia.
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12:58 |
: There, chew on that one for awhiel
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12:58 |
Is that a joke about a Robot Chicken skit to start the chat? *starts slow clap* |
12:58 |
: Technically, it was a Thundercats joke
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12:58 |
Assuming you agree with replacing Espinosa with Rendon at 2B, when would you do it? |
12:58 |
: Couple weeks after he plays.
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12:58 |
Is there any defensible reason for playing delmon on a daily basis in the outfield? |
12:59 |
: Humor.
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12:59 |
: A few more and then time to go.
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12:59 |
Camden Yards, is Coors Field east … every fly ball goes to the track or further …..That is all |
12:59 |
: It doesn’t, however, have the single/double exploding that Coors does
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1:00 |
: Camden lately has just been a mild-to-decent hitters’ park, not a crazy haven.
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1:01 |
Is Brandon Moss done as a productive option this year? 230/300/430 rest of way? |
1:01 |
: I *told* you guys not to be too excited!
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1:01 |
How did it miss Ohio? Because nothing wants to go to Ohio! |
1:01 |
Cardinals have the best record in baseball with Pete Kozma as their starting SS. Think they upgrade the position or is it really even necessary? |
1:01 |
: Ideally they should, but I don’t think they will.
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1:01 |
I suppose that was poorly worded re: Ozuna. Of course the average will go down but is he actually an above average OF? |
1:01 |
: I wouldn’t say above average yet
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1:01 |
Will Jason Heyward turn it around? |
1:01 |
: Yes
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1:01 |
Is it time to stash Daniel Hudson? Beachey or Hudson? |
1:02 |
: Beachy probably the more interesting stash, but both are stashable.
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1:02 |
Thoughts on RA Dickey? |
1:02 |
: @#$*%&@#()*%
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1:02 |
Chances Wilpons sell team this decade? or are they charlton heston “cold dead hands” for the rest of their natural lives? |
1:02 |
: I think it’ll be more of an involuntary seizure than a voluntary sale
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1:02 |
Do you want to punch anyone that refers to Asdrubal Cabrera as “Droobs”? |
1:02 |
: Yes. Asdrubal is an EPIC NAME
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1:03 |
The Wizard of Koz proven he’s worthy of playing middle infield for the Red Birds. Does this change Mozielak’s approach come the trading deadline |
1:04 |
: I don’t think he has. Average bWAR and fWAR and his pace is 1.3 WAR.
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1:04 |
Diagnose Jason Heyward’s struggles. Appendectomy didn’t help. And up until last couple weeks he was experiencing historical levels of bad BABIP luck. What do you make of it? |
1:04 |
: I think he’ll be fine, honestly.
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1:05 |
: Beltre had an awful year after his appendectomy too
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1:05 |
: I wonder if I can find enough historical appendectomies in baseball
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1:05 |
Is Scooter an appropriate name for a grown man if said grown man is not a professional baseballer? |
1:05 |
: In the 1950s maybe.
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1:05 |
: I want a player to be nicknamed Soda Pop
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1:06 |
Adam Dunn has had an awful career after his appendectomy. |
1:06 |
no day games today 🙁 |
1:06 |
: Every day should have a baseball day game.
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1:07 |
: Well, unless the season’s over.
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1:07 |
: If there are at least 4 games, there should be a 12:05, a 3:05, a 7:05, and a 10:05 every day.
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1:07 |
: EDT/EST, AKA AwesomeTime.
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1:07 |
: On that note, time for me to go! Thanks for coming y’all.
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1:08 |
: (using my rustic drawl typing style)
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1:08 |
ESPN.com, chats and projections at FanGraphs, DSzymborski on Twitter, Steam, etc. etc.
: As usual, you can find me at |
1:08 |
: The second piece in my draft pick set is scheduled to run tomorrow, in which I look at team value over expectations for every draft pick in history
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1:09 |
: Last week, if you missed it, I did a non-linear 9-year WAR expectation model based on every draft pick in history.
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1:09 |
: And ranked the top 100 picks ever for value.
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1:09 |
: SEE YOU AT THE PARTY, RICHTER!
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I love how the youngins don’t realize that a lot of the [as] references are to actual shows, mostly from the 80s/90s and not independent of themselves.
A Robot Chicken joke? how could you even do a joke about a parody show? i mean, i guess the robot humping mechanical things is independent of itself….