Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 7/10/25
12:07 |
: Sorry, took me some time to get in!
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12:08 |
: What is your favorite portdanteau?
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12:08 |
: Dang, I know I have some but I can’t think of them!
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12:09 |
: I did once describe the feeling of getting mad at Hall of Fame voters for not voting for deserving players as Blylevengeance.
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12:09 |
: What do you see the Mets doing at the deadline?
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12:09 |
: I don’t think they’ll go CRAZY, but they may add some depth, especially to rotation
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12:09 |
: Like I could see them going after Eflin
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12:10 |
: Do you think the Nats new GM (DeBartolo or a new hire) might trade Gore in the offseason? Should they>
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12:10 |
: I think no and no. Though it depends if they think the current path of rebuilding is sustainable or they ahve to start from square one
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12:11 |
: Had Zips lowered its outlook on JRod? It seems like he peaked early and has now settled into above average defense and running with average offense.
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12:12 |
: It has – his five-year WAR is down like 12% from where it was at the start of the season (for 2026-2030)
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12:12 |
: Was Shane Smith the right all-star pick for the White Sox? Lots of love for Adrian Houser currently.
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12:13 |
: I like the Smith pick. When he’s one, he’s really fun, and he’s mostly been solid this year. Houser’s been good, but he’s kinda a known quantity and he only had half the time
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12:13 |
: …on second thought, maybe Sandy Alcantara is not coming around.
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12:13 |
: It’s very dangerous for a writer to write about a player on the day they start!
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12:13 |
: I shoudl have written it for Tuesday not yesterday
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12:13 |
: what do you/ZiPS think of mickey moniak’s resurgence in Colorado? hes been on fire recently but his home/away splits are pretty disastrous
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12:14 |
: We are both meh.
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12:14 |
: ZiPS does have him at 1.5 WAR in 425 PA next year, and having an averageish season is about as high as ZiPS has EVER been on him
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12:14 |
: Which players have improved their ZiPS most in the first 3 months of the season?
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12:15 |
: As an Orioles fan I’m going to be sad we can’t let Bryan Bake anymore, but a top 40 pick for a solid reliever (even one with team control) is too good to pass up right?
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12:15 |
: I did an article on that afew weeks ago!
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12:15 |
: Yes
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12:15 |
: What’s the deeeal with Jackson Merrill?
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12:15 |
: Liek Freeman, I think just a down period
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12:15 |
: After being cut from the 2024 White Sox, Romy Gonzalez now has the highest hard-hit% at 61%, among batters with 100 BBE. ZiPS is now projecting a wRC+ of 116 ROS, while Steamer has him at 96 ROS. Do you take the under or over on ZiPS?
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12:16 |
: I think under because I’m a bet hedger!
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12:16 |
: Is it time to crack each others heads and feast on the goo inside re Jacob Misiorowski? The control issues don’t seem to have cropped up by zone% or OOZ Swing%, and the pitching models love his location (compared to his scouting report) with 101 Location + and 59 botCmd
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12:16 |
: I’ve just enough watching him!
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12:18 |
: ZiPS keeps warning me he’s not Skenes
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12:18 |
: but I’m all I HAVE DOMINION OVER YOU, DIGITAL BEAST
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12:18 |
: I know it’s only been a little bit more than a month. He’s a hall of fame and the all star starter. It’s probably fine. But what in the world is up with Freddie Freeman?
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12:18 |
: Like Merrill, I’m not really worried
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12:19 |
: Good Morrow sir. Hey did you ever see the cartoon called “The Raccoons” as a child? All the characters had these weird downward Tetris L shaped Fawcett noses and the intro theme ended with fireworks. Or am I an AI that’s hallucinating a person who hallucinated an odd cartoon from their “childhood”. Baseball.
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12:19 |
: I did not, I may have been *slightly* too old to have seen it in the US?
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12:20 |
: By the time I was like nine, I didn’t really watch many cartoons
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12:21 |
: except TMNT
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12:21 |
: I mostly saw the usual standbys and the USA Cartoon Express
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12:21 |
: because fo the latter, I have an encyclopedic knowledge level of 1970s Hanna Barbera cartoons
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12:22 |
: I could probably narrate every episode of Jabberjaw
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12:22 |
: or Wheelie and the Chopper Bunch
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12:22 |
: Are the Blue Jays for real?
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12:23 |
: I don’t thing being on a 90 win pace is too preposterous
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12:23 |
: As I said last year about the Jays and the year before about the Yankees and the Mets, it’s foolish to take a team’s worst performance as the new baseline
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12:23 |
: if Texas tries to steal the space shuttle from the Smithsonian, should Mike DeWine hijack it in the Gulf and float it up the Mississippi and Ohio rivers to get it to Dayton where it belongs?
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12:23 |
: Sounds like fun
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12:23 |
: I like capers
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12:23 |
: both culinary and shenanigan-driven
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12:26 |
: players never agree to a cap without a floor too (or…)? a team in freaking Chicago spending only $77 mil seems insane
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12:27 |
: The proposals aired had ridiculously low floors.
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12:28 |
: I *think* MLB would have to crush the players to get a cap; you’d need a lost season and players panicking I think
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12:29 |
: They don’t ask me and I’m not a member, so I have no say, but I’m of the position that baseball’s de facto soft salary cap is of the same substance as an explicit salary cap, so it makes sense to get the best position you can
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12:30 |
: Here’s a question I’ve been wondering about for a while: how do playoff odds interact with the possibility of a team giving up and trading its best players. It seems to create some weird math for teams with playoff odds below 50% around this time of year, because if the odds go down the team will deliberately get worse, so it seems like it would be hard to maintain low but steady odds through July. Does this affect the accuracy of the listed odds, or is it already baked in? Or am I misunderstanding how math works?
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12:30 |
: THey don’t really
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12:30 |
: I’ve tried to doing a generalized model for likelihood a team trades their players, but the error bars are so large that I abandoned the idea
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12:30 |
: I’ve read several statements saying the Rockies are ten years behind when it comes to analytics. I’m not asking this about the Rockies in particular, but what more specifically would it mean to be ten years behind when it comes to analytics? What are the biggest things analytics allow teams to accomplish today that couldn’t be accomplished ten years ago?
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12:31 |
: I don’t think it’s more the stuff they’re able to do rather than what they understand
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12:31 |
: Behind here means more than they don’t have the resources that most teams have for analytics, either funding or size. And most seriously, they don’t have the same systems in place to integrate analytics with broader decision making
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12:32 |
: I don’t know the current White Sox people, but for several years, I got the impression their analytics department was Matt Koenig having to handle like everything
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12:32 |
: Braves are in a real tough spot. No depth, bad farm system, long term extensions to core players are starting to backfire, not much payroll space. Is the future for Atlanta staring to look a little worrying?
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12:32 |
: Worrying in that it’s uncertain. But the team still has a lot of assets, so they have freedom of movement
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12:32 |
: But they do need to focus on their shrot and long term goals this winter
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12:32 |
: i cannot figure out how to sit at a desk with a computer anymore without something being distractingly uncomfortable. is it probably me, my desk, or my chair
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12:33 |
: Chair?
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12:34 |
: I sit parallel to my computer table in a large recliner with an ottoman. my right arm is on my desktop and my large monitor at an angle so that my head is usually pointed about 20 degrees to my right. I have another parallel desk to my left and another table behind me
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12:34 |
: And I’m quite comfortable
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12:34 |
: I think you need to audition some chairs!
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12:34 |
: As new stadiums enter the mix, is the size of the field of play increasing or decreasing
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12:34 |
: ususually decreasing
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12:34 |
: When is a player in the union?
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12:35 |
: Since they added minors leaguers, basically always now!
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12:35 |
: including FA
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12:35 |
: Does ZiPS still think Volpe is going to be a star. Will he improve much in the next year or two?
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12:36 |
: ZiPS thinks Volpe’s more likely now to be a 2-3.5 WAR performer through his 20s
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12:36 |
: Which means he’ll have *some* four-win seasons
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12:36 |
: but his wRC+ projections are mostly high 90s now
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12:37 | : Links to the improvers articles if you want to post them: |
12:37 |
: How many subscriptions do you carry?
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12:37 |
: I subscribe to a ton of stuff really
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12:37 |
: Speaking of cartoons, did you ever watch The Oblongs starring Will Ferrell? I liked it at the time. Also I hear that guy’s a dickhead
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12:39 |
: This is literally the first time I’ve heard of this
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12:39 |
: And when I search for it, NOTHING rings a bell
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12:39 |
: What’s the story with Onell Cruz? I know he’s a wildly fluctuating hitter but this is getting dire.
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12:39 |
: II think eh’s a volatile hitter
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12:40 |
: Speaking of hallucinations, the Toronto Baseball Blue Jays are in first place thanks to *checks notes* Ernie Clement, Miles Straw, Addison Barger and 26 year old George Springer. This is REALITY though…..right?
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12:40 |
: Life is strange
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12:40 |
: would you rather have real-life umpires signaling balls and strikes once it’s automated, or get creative and have, like, a hologram tupac making the signals?
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12:40 |
: the latter
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12:40 |
: for example, animatronic raccoons
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12:40 |
: “I don’t think they’ll go CRAZY” – you said this about the Mets. Isn’t it true that this is probably the default answer to just about any team’s deadline plans? Additional question – what team do you think is going to go the most ‘CRAZY’?
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12:41 |
: I can see the Dodgers doing something crazy and off the wall
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12:41 |
: How do I know that we’re not chatting with a LLM pretending to be the actual Dan Szymborski?
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12:41 |
: An LLM would accidentally try and make more sense
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12:41 |
: Who is a favorite childhood player of yours, and who is someone that you find comparable to them present-day?
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12:41 |
: Every submarine pitcher!
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12:41 |
: or sidearmer
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12:42 |
: I may have been the only kid in Little League to have ever been inspired by Terry Leach
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12:43 |
: It’s why I was an effective pitcher as a kid really. I find throwing sidearm far more comfortable than over the top or three quarters and I could get a little movement on pitches that I wouldn’t have gotten much on otherwise
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12:44 |
: I didn’t throw hard or have great control or anything. Just having a weird pitching motion and some pitches that act atypically was helpful for me
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12:44 |
: Dan, did you say a couple of weeks ago that you like musical theater? Any favorite shows?
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12:45 |
: I’m a REAL sucker for Natasha, Pierre & the Great Comet of 1812
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12:45 |
: Who are your favorite classic and modern conductors? As a Bruckner and Mahler fan I would think Bruno Walter would be up there.
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12:45 |
: Ah, the thing about Walter is that he was always dependable and thoughtful but he would never be my number ONE choice in anything
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12:45 |
: Kinda like Alfred Brendel (RIP)
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12:46 |
: My favorite Mahler recordings are the old Bernstein NY recordings
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12:47 |
: and the more modern Bertini cycle
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12:48 |
: for Buckner, I really like the relative recent Tintner recordings and Jochum. Also tend to like Karajan here where I mostly find him a bit too self indulgent
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12:48 |
: I wish Furtwangler had survived into the 60s/70s to record more!
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12:49 |
: At my age, I tend to gravitate towards more extreme interpretations on either side for works that I know really well
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12:49 |
: Like I have very little interest in hearing a middle of the road Beethoven 5th at this point
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12:50 |
: Thoughts on the Baker to Tampa deal? Fair? Sign of a big sell-off looming?
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12:50 |
: I like it, it’s fair for a decentinary pitcher
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12:50 |
: Todd Frohwirth!
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12:51 |
: Mark Eichhorn was a legend in 1986 and at eight, it was just the right age for me to become a huge fan
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12:51 |
: I’m STILL excited the Orioles signed him
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12:51 |
: How hot is too hot for baseball?
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12:52 |
: 90! But I hate hot weather
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12:52 |
: I love being in a press box on a hot day
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12:52 |
: We’re doing portdanteaus? About time this user name paid off…
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12:52 |
: Hey Dan, do you know a way that wouldn’t require hours of work to find QS by SP for the year, along with W/L/ND and possibly even run support by start? I’m trying to gauge “lucky” and “unlucky” SP with this stuff. Thank you!!
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12:52 |
: I think you can do that on stathead pretty quickly
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12:52 |
: Time me
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12:56 |
: crap, it’s not taking my password, i need to reset
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12:56 |
: Nothings more extreme than Celebidache’s Bruckner.
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12:56 |
: Yeah, but I have to do stuff and I don’t have two hours
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12:57 |
: Do you know Michael Gielen’s Mahler recordings? I find them really fascinating as a distinctive interpretation.
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12:57 |
: I don’t think I’ve heard them all. I remember liking a third from him and not so much a fourth
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12:57 |
: I do like my Mahler kinda neurotic
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12:57 |
: Who has the best crab cakes in Baltimore, and why is it Faidley’s?
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12:57 |
: the best crab cake in Baltimore is one you make in your kitchen and using Barbara Mikulski’s old recipe
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12:58 |
: Bah, I can’t get the totals
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12:58 |
: I thoguth I could
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12:58 |
: the senator?!
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12:58 |
: yeah
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12:59 |
: though I put I mix in a tiny bit of horseradish when I mix in mustard
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12:59 |
: and BROIL the crabcakes
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1:00 |
: If crabcakes can be pan-fried without falling apart, you have too much filler
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1:00 |
: appreciate you looking…stathead worth the price of admission?
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1:00 |
: Yes
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1:00 |
: What do you see the Padres realistically doing before the deadline?
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1:00 |
: I think they’ll be especially low key given they probably have the most financial constraints of any contender with a high payroll
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1:00 |
: Do you think a trade structured around Tyler Soderstrom for Chase Dollander could be mutually beneficial? I assume Rockies would have to add a sweetener or two?
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1:01 |
: What exactly makes a Beethoven 5th “middle of the road”?
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1:01 |
: moderate tempos, moderate dynamics, no real interpretive stance, etc
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1:01 |
: I do like the NY Bernstein Mahler—and his Beethoven 5th from that era—but his Vienna recordings of Mahler are mostly atrocious IMO. For Furtwangler the Beethoven 9th from 1942 is my favorite. Regal stuff.
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1:01 |
: Yeah, I mostly like 50s/60s Bernstein
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1:02 |
: The sad thing about Furtwangler recordings is that many of the best ones have pretty awful sound
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1:03 |
: If I had a time machine and went back in time to kill Hitler, I’d probably discover that’s something that’s easier said then done, and would probably just go listen to concerts or something
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1:03 |
: But then again, my German is nowhere near good enough to pass for a native
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1:04 |
: Watching Wimbledon now, would you rather have baseball institute a rule that the crowd has to be quite before each pitch, or allow tennis fans to make noise during the whole match?
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1:04 |
: I like noise related pressure
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1:04 |
: Chess matches should be rowdier too
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1:04 |
: AWWW BOOHOO CANT REMEMBER MAIN LINE OF NAJDORF SICILIAN WHILE DOUCHEBAG STEVE POURS A BEER OVER YOUR HEAD HUH?
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1:05 |
: Furtwangler has to be a 9 year old boy’s superhero name.
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1:05 |
: you could off nazis in your free time between shows
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1:05 |
: The thing is, I’ve never actually killed anyone
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1:06 |
: And if I had to kill someone, I’m not sure in a foreign country 40 years before I was born is the best time to get practice
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1:06 |
: Did you ever see Manhunt? It’s a classic Fritz Lang movie about a sportsman who lines up Hitler as a target but doesn’t pull the trigger.
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1:06 |
: I haven’t!
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1:06 |
: they never let me pitch in kid rec league. my usual job was to drop the fly ball then throw the guy out trying for 2nd
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1:07 |
: My little league career was weird. I *was* on our lousy travel team! I pitched and played second base. I sucked at catching flies, but I’m extremely competitive and charged at every grounder, no matter how hard hit. I used to get bloody noses a couple times a year from a ball bouncing into my face
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1:07 |
: Would it make any sense – even a scintilla – for a team that needs an additional left-handed bat in the lineup to try playing a left-handed mashing hitter at 2nd, 3rd, or short if all the other positions are already taken up by good players? Or is there no way a lefty could play those positions?
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1:08 |
: I think the problem is the lefties won’t have any practical experience at the positions
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1:08 |
: I’d like someone to do that as a test thing though
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1:09 |
: Are there any active players that project positively into their 40s?
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1:09 |
: Aaron Judge has a 0.9 WAR projection at age 41!
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1:10 |
: Carlos Santana has a 0.8 for next year
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1:10 |
: how much 2026 hope do you and/or ZiPS have for Matt Shaw now
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1:10 |
: Still some.
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1:10 |
: Have you ever been there when a record was broken?
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1:10 |
: I don’t believe so
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1:11 |
: I was there for the first game of the O’s 21 game losing streak to start 1988 though!
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1:12 |
: I was ALSO at the WWE Raw in Baltimore where they first showed the video of Big Boss Man stealing the casket of the Big Show’s dead dad at his funeral! lol
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1:13 |
: I was at 2,130. And I’ve gone 30 years claiming that game was the real record-breaking game. Cal moved into first on 2,130; Gehrig moved into second on 2,131!
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1:13 |
: You just need to define “record” narrowly enough — you were there the first time a Dan Szyborsk had a pulse on 7/10/2025 at 1:10 pm EDT!
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1:13 |
i assume less than 0 |
1:13 |
: how much do you think the angels should sell? how much do you think they will?
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1:14 |
: I think the Angels need to tear it all down. They won’t do any of it, I don’t think
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1:14 |
: On that note, it’s time for me to head out for another week!
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1:14 |
: Thansk for coming all
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Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.
Fifth grade we learned our state senators and one of ours from Missouri was Jack Danforth. But, I had Todd’s 1988 Topps card on the brain and called him Jack Frohwirth. Hard to explain my mistake to the class.
Never Forget.