Dodgers Upgrade Rotation in Unexpected, Intelligent Way
The Dodgers have an apparently endless supply of cash, and are using it to run the largest payroll in baseball this year, so naturally, any time a prominent and expensive player is rumored to be trade bait, LA is one of the first teams mentioned. They’ve been linked to Cole Hamels all year. More recently, they’ve been tied to David Price. They needed pitching, they had the money to afford those guys, and so the fit seemed to make sense.
But we should perhaps note that, since Andrew Friedman took over the reigns of the Dodgers baseball operations department, that’s not really how the Dodgers have used their resources. They haven’t been at all shy about throwing money around, but they haven’t yet shown any willingness to spend big money on Major League veterans. Despite a roster that they wanted to completely turnover, they only signed two prominent MLB free agents over the winter, and both Brandon McCarthy and Brett Anderson were more mid-level value plays than the buy-stars-with-cash approach.
When they needed a catcher, they traded for Yasmani Grandal, who they saw as an undervalued player they could acquire at a good price, and managed to dump a lot of Matt Kemp’s overpriced contract in the deal. They wanted a new middle infield, but targeted production-over-flash with Howie Kendrick and Jimmy Rollins, solid role players on short-term commitments who could provide value while waiting for the team’s up-and-coming prospects to develop. They needed better relievers to get them to Kenley Jansen, so they traded for Juan Nicasio and Chris Hatcher, then went with a bunch of youngsters after guys like Yimi Garcia dominated spring training. The Dodgers have had plenty of opportunities to use their ample payroll to acquire marquis players, and at every chance, they’ve gone another direction.
So perhaps we shouldn’t be surprised that, when it came time to replace McCarthy and Hyun-Jin Ryu in the rotation, they looked for alternatives to the go-get-the-most-expensive-guy plan. That isn’t to say that they won’t still end up with Price– we’d be fools to ever assume the Dodgers are done working on things, given the number of moves they’ve made in the last year — or some other big name player before Friday’s deadline, but today’s move is probably the most Dodgers transaction we’ve seen since Friedman and Farhan Zaidi were given unlimited funds and told to do what they do best.
The deal, as we understand it at this point.
Dodgers Acquire:
LHP Alex Wood
RHP Mat Latos
RHP Jim Johnson
LHP Luis Avilan
2B/OF Jose Peraza
1B Michael Morse
Braves Acquire:
2B/3B Hector Olivera
LHP Paco Rodriguez
RHP Zach Bird
Competitive Balance Pick (#35 overall, currently)
Marlins Acquire:
RHP Jeff Brigham
RHP Victor Araujo
RHP Kevin Guzman
Corporate Profits
The Dodgers, of course, just signed Hector Olivera to a $62.5 million contract a few months ago — because international spending has been a primary area where the team has invested their financial resources — but then saw his role on the team clouded when Justin Turner decided to just keep hitting. So, rather than simply let a valuable asset hang around as depth, the Dodgers are using Olivera to upgrade their pitching staff.
Jeff wrote up the reasons for optimism surrounding Mat Latos this morning, back when this looked like a pretty bland two team deal, but the prize here is clearly Alex Wood, who isn’t at the level of Hamels or Price but also isn’t quite as far behind as you might think. Here are the the numbers for those three pitchers since 2013, the first year of Wood’s big league career.
| Name | IP | BB% | K% | GB% | HR/FB | LOB% | BABIP | ERA- | FIP- | xFIP- |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| David Price | 581 | 4% | 24% | 42% | 9% | 73% | 0.300 | 82 | 76 | 79 |
| Alex Wood | 368 | 7% | 22% | 47% | 8% | 77% | 0.316 | 84 | 85 | 92 |
| Cole Hamels | 553 | 7% | 24% | 45% | 9% | 76% | 0.295 | 86 | 83 | 88 |
Price is on another level — his ERA is only close to the other two because of a low strand rate, but that’s a short-term fluctuation, as his career results line up with his excellent peripherals — but Wood’s numbers aren’t that different than Hamels, albeit in about 60% of the innings. Certainly, he doesn’t have the track record of either of the two multiple-time All-Stars, and his combination of a painful-looking delivery, a decrease in velocity, and a drop in strikeout rate make him a significantly more risky asset than the established stars, but clearly, the upside for him to pitch at a high level is there. He’s done it for roughly the equivalent of two full seasons, after all.
Going for Wood instead of Hamels or Price is somewhat similar to going for McCarthy instead of Max Scherzer or Jon Lester, with the Dodgers betting they can get 85-90% of the performance for 25% of the cost, and taking on some health risk in the process. Wood has already had Tommy John surgery once, missed some time with forearm tightness last year, and if you haven’t seen him throw before, check these GIFs out, and you’ll quickly see why a lot of people think he’s not going to be able to do this forever. That delivery could be charitably described as funky, and while predicting future injuries isn’t a secret anyone has yet solved, he certainly seems to check a lot of boxes for a guy who might be a short-peak pitcher, not entirely unlike Tim Lincecum.
So while Wood is still just 24 and under team control for four more seasons, he’s probably more of a short-term asset than is typical of a player his age. Perhaps the mechanical concerns are overblown, and maybe the strikeout rate and velocity declines aren’t signs of a lingering health issue; if all those things are true, Wood could very well still be one of the best pitchers in baseball in a few years. But there’s enough risk here to think that you’re acquiring Wood for about what he can do for you for the next year or two, and anything beyond that is probably gravy.
But Wood also doesn’t cost $25 million per year; he’ll make something close to the league minimum in 2016, and then go through arbitration three times, where his low-ish career innings totals should keep his prices reasonable, and of course, if he blows up along the way, those final years of control aren’t guaranteed. If he only lasts a few years before his elbow explodes, then the financial cost to the Dodgers will be minimal; he’s only going to cost real money if he turns into a long-term asset.
Of course, the Dodgers are paying for Wood, just in a roundabout way. $28 million of the $62 million they agreed to pay Olivera was in the form of a signing bonus, and now that he’ll never suit up for them, that money could instead be seen as a down payment on Wood’s future performance. But this whole transaction is a little more complicated than that, since there are a lot of pieces trading places, and assigning the cost of Olivera’s bonus to just one piece of the deal isn’t so straight forward.
After all, the Dodgers are getting back a solid prospect in Jose Peraza, a guy who ranked #44 on Kiley McDaniels pre-season Top 200. After a mediocre season in Triple-A (though is still just 21), he’ll likely rate lower on next year’s batch of lists, but he’s still a valuable asset. I wouldn’t be surprised if he got flipped in another trade before the deadline, or later this winter, as the Dodgers still have a surplus of middle infield prospects, but even if the Dodgers aren’t planning on Peraza as their long-term second baseman, he clearly has value to them and the rest of the league.
Between taking on the rest of Morse’s salary and essentially eating Olivera’s signing bonus, the Dodgers are using roughly $40 million to acquire Wood, Latos, Peraza, and Jim Johnson; the prospects they’re sending away are of minimal consequence, and Paco Rodriguez is out for the year following elbow surgery. To get back two solid major league starters, a quality reliever, and a legitimate prospect in exchange for essentially agreeing to pay Olivera’s signing bonus for the Braves and take on the money left on Morse’s deal is a remarkable bargain for Los Angeles.
Wood alone may very well produce $40 million in value above his salary over his team controlled years. Peraza is from the class of prospects that has been the centerpiece in deals for the best rentals traded so far, so even if they flip him, he’ll bring back something pretty shiny himself. And Latos and Johnson are solid depth pieces for a win-now team, and the Dodgers are getting them for something close to free.
Even after this trade, there’s still plenty of speculation that the Dodgers will make a run at David Price, and perhaps Wood or Peraza will be heading to Detroit in the next 36 hours. But at some point, maybe we’re all going to realize that big named MLB players haven’t really been Friedman and Zaidi’s thing. When they’ve spent money, it’s been to sign long-term assets internationally, or to buy draft picks or prospects from other organizations that don’t have the Dodgers cashflows. Wood and Latos fit in as perfectly reasonable #3 and #4 starters behind Kershaw and Greinke, so while David Price would absolutely make them better, they’ve essentially just filled out their rotation using the same plan they used last winter; bet on talent instead of health while looking for value instead of paying the retail price.
Of course, the Dodgers might not stop here just because they don’t need another starting pitcher; they didn’t need Hector Olivera when they outbid the Braves for him a few months ago either. Alex Wood is likely the kind of 2016 asset that the Tigers would love to land in a Price trade, though the Tigers would have to give up more than just Price to get Wood, in all likelihood; it’s not too hard to squint and see a deal for both Price and Yoenis Cespedes that also has the Tigers taking on some of the remaining Andre Ethier or Carl Crawford money as an incentive for the Dodgers to ship Wood north.
But for now, that’s all just speculation. While this deal isn’t final, and last night’s Carlos Gomez non-trade is a reminder that even fully-leaked deals aren’t done until they’re announced, the Dodgers have apparently gone a long way towards filling out their pitching staff, and doing it without really touching the young base of talent they have in their organization. It’s making deals like this, rather than simply unloading the farm system for expensive stars, that are why the Dodgers are going to be really good for a really long time.
Dave is the Managing Editor of FanGraphs.
Alex Wood: first MLB player to start at age 12.
I’m old and confused
“Since 2003” should be “Since 2013” I think. Was confused why I had not heard about Wood before!
Don’t tell Giant and Cardinal fans what LA is doing. They are enjoying beating the Dodgers up for their payroll and inability to win the big one. Maybe in a few years they may have to find another excuse to hate LA.
I don’t understand the deal from the Braves POV, at all.
Well if you want to assume that they don’t believe in Wood thats a good start. Then consider that decent relievers for a team in ATL’s position are meaningless, so trade them all day long. Now consider that perhaps the Braves FO has been drawing little hearts around Olivera’s name for some time now, and LAD has already paid the difference between his original contract and ATL’s top offer.
So basically they traded Wood and some stuff they don’t care about, for a cheaper Olivera and a draft pick.
That is about the only way I can see it, too. Though, I’d still think they could/should have gotten a better long term asset for wood and peraza considering Olivera is no spring chicken. I assume they had their own internal evaluations of wood and peraza that were perhaps less favorable than an outsider’s perspective.
Which doesn’t necessarily make it right, anyway.
They’re probably very high on Olivera, as well. 35 is a decent draft pick, too.
“So basically they traded Wood and some stuff they don’t care about, for a cheaper Olivera and a draft pick.”
All of that makes sense, and it could be defensible on that basis. But to then throw in a top 30-50 prospect on top! Incomprehensible.
well, they have a lot of pitching in the minors, they probably feel like wood is a big risk for injury. oliveria has the potential to be an impact big, peraza not really. if they believe in cameron maybin moving forward this makes a ton of sense for next year.
This deal makes about as much sense for the Braves as hitting yourself in the head w a hammer. They saved $30 million, roughly, by not signing Olivera in the offseason. The Dodgers basically bought Peraza and Wood for that much. Is four more years of Alex Wood and six of Peraza worth more than $30 million in surplus value. You bet it is. It’s probably worth twice that much. Does it make sense to hit yourself in the head with a hammer? Maybe, in some weird context. The fact people have to do all these contortions to make the deal even approach being okay for the Braves is a pretty good indication of how terrible it is.
They also have a glut of middle infielders coming up in their system, so it could be that they just preferred those guys to Peraza. And since those guys are a little further from the majors, Olivera can serve as a nice piece for a few years until they are ready.
If they viewed Peraza as a player they’d rather trade than play, why trade him in this deal, for this kind of underwhelming return? It’s undeniable that he has value, given the consensus of talent evaluators and his speed and defense; even if he doesn’t fit into the Braves’ long-term plans, you have to use that value to improve your team as much as possible.
what are the braves doing?
Preparing to tank a season or two longer to get really high picks like the Astros did…
Getting rid of Bronson arroyo apparently.
Where does Olivera fit as a Brave? Third base??
Yes, and he should be a productive one, but I can’t believe the Dodgers got Peraza in addition to Wood and Johnson.
do you think he’ll play this season?
I dont think theyre done, the will use WOOD and Peraza to get Price
That would be a monumental overpay for Price. Wood by himself would be a huge overpay for 2 months of Price.
i see wood for price and soria. or wood, carl crawford, peraza for cespededs, price, soria.
I think adding Peraza in the second case makes it an overpay by L.A. Detroit would probably need to toss in a decent prospect to make something like that work.
Is it though? It’s easy to look at it and be like, ok 4 more years of Alex Wood with no guaranteed $, 80 percent of Price’s ability blah blah surplus value > 2 months + post season of Price. But it was noted that he’s had TJ, forearm soreness, and he looks like Gumby when he pitches. Putting up his rate stats to make a comparison to Hamels and Price is completely unfair when he’s never thrown 175 innings in a season.
Price is a complete season/playoff series game changer and has several win now clubs wanting his services. The idea that Detroit would have to take on Crawford’s contract to get Wood for Price is ludicrous.
“Price is a complete season/playoff series game changer”
People say that but it rarely seems to play out that way. I think the idea of playoff game changers is way overblown.
Nope.
I really don’t get this either. Is a reasonably priced Olivera worth BOTH Wood and Peraza? I know the competitive balance pick has value, and maybe they see something in Bird. But this looks pretty bad for them, unless they know something about Wood that other people don’t.
And of course, the Marlins look real bad.
Yes but the Marlins always look real bad. What a terrible organization.
Meh, shedding salary is shedding salary. At least they’re honest about it.
They’re not so honest about their salary when they’re trying to get a new stadium.
Little of what the Marlins do can be even charitably called “honest.”
The Nationals are paying Scherzer 15M this year (and yes a lot for a lot of years).
The Dodgers are paying the following to fill their #3 and #4 slots:
McCarthy – 12M (part of 48M deal)
Anderson – 10M
Latos and Wood – we’ll use Dave’s figure of 40M
That would be 62M for mid-rotation starters. Wood has value in future years, but McCarthy is injured and has perhaps negative value in future years.
The Dodgers have been creative. And we can certainly see that the individual moves can be justified under the all important “intelligent” banner.
But is this a serious of moves that should really be celebrated so unambiguously?
Perhaps sometimes just paying for elite MLB talent is the best thing to do afterall.
its a DC article on a move a GM he likes made. Of course its all going to be sunshine and roses. Just like the 20 off-season articles on the brilliance of Ben Cherington’s starting pitching plan.
Good point. He sure does love to play favorites.
“solid, mid-rotation starters” lol
The general point is fair, but you can’t just use 2015 salaries as a comparison since the nats have way more risk considering the length of the deal and the guaranteed salary. The lack of similar risk on the dodgers side is a real benefit that is reflected in the short term cost.
Exactly, Mike can gloss over the Scherzer contract all he wants, but while $17 million this year is a bargain, $42 million EACH YEAR for his age 34-36 seasons will most certainly not.
*is most certainly not
Uy yuy yuy. That’s gonna be miserable.
But is this a serious of moves
I am really looking forward to the Orioles serious of contests with the Tigers this weekend.
Anderson has been worth his salary so far. He’s been solid, if unspectacular, along the way, and will probably be gone next year. Also, he hasn’t been injured yet! When you look at, I dunno, Gio Gonzalez, if you wanna talk Nats, who’s making 11 million this year through a largely mediocre season, you start to see that pitching is kind of expensive these days.
Latos and Wood aren’t costing $40M this year, and their cost of acquisition is not solely related to this year but also the value they provide in future years. This calculation is…vastly disingenuous.
This is definitely a good deal for the Dodgers. They get 2 starters, 2 relievers, a prospect, and a left fielder for an injured reliever, a few low level prospects, a pick, and a third basemen they don’t need. Also, Scherzers is making more than 15 million on average. Yes, they may only be paying him that much this year, but if I recall correctly they are paying him almost 30 a year on average.
They’re not even giving up the pick, the pick went from the Marlins to the Braves.
Now reports are in that LA will “creatively” and “intelligently” pick up the 10+M contract of Bronson Arroyo.
So now lets up the acquisition cost of Latos/Wood (+Peraza and the relievers) to 50M!
Now we’re up to 72M for the Dodgers to fill two rotation slots.
Same weird comments about Scherzer’s contract – it’s 15M/yr for 14 yr which was considered to be equivalent to something like a 27M/yr annual salary.
Yes, there’s a lot of risk on the back end, but are we trying to convince people that spending 72M on mid-rotation starters UPFRONT is somehow better than possibly being on the hook for dead money on the back end of contract to an elite player?
Really? This are the rhetorical hoops we choose to jump through to genuflect before sabre approved GMs? Ugh.
Dave do you really stand behind this summary: “bet on talent instead of health while looking for value instead of paying the retail price.”
$50 million for 5 years of 24 year old Alex Wood, not to mention Latos, Luis Avilan, and Peraza (a top-50 prospect is nothing to sneeze at) is a very, very good deal. Johnson, Morse, and Arroyo are definitely salary dumps, but it’s the Dodgers, if that’s the price they pay to avoid losing any major prospects besides 30 year old Hector Olivera, I think they do that deal 10/10 times. As far as McCarthy, they didn’t know he would be injured, nor did they know Ryu would be out all year. As for Anderson, depth is depth, which is where your comparison is flawed. Scherzer is one pitcher, and you’re comparing his salary to SEVEN players (and three salary dumps).
Six players actually, I counted Ryu by mistake.
Scherzer signed a 7 year, 215 million deal. If you assume he gets paid 15 million every year, then the money in that deal gets cut in half: 7 years, 105 million.
Dave, in your chat yesterday you said at one point that the Dodgers wouldn’t be able to use the competitive balance pick in a future trade because such picks can only be traded once. So how are they trading it to the Braves now?
It was a three-team deal. Presumably, they received it directly from the Marlins.
Pretty sure this is simply going MIA-ATL, a three-team trade.
Ah yes, of course. That would indeed make sense.
Im still holding out hope that this won’t happen. Cant believe the Braves would give up a very solid proven MLB pitcher with cost controlled years ahead and a top 100 prospect for an unproven 30 year old. The other trades got them in the good graces of fans and this is gonna tear it all down.
I have to chime in with all the others:
What is Peraza doing in this deal???
Dave has certainly convinced me that one should love this deal for the Dodgers, if one is inclined to love the Dodgers. I am still mystified about why the Braves would pay this much for a win-now 30-year-old without a single big-league plate appearance and questions around the health of his elbow.
Salary relief of shedding Arroyo and the 1st round draft pick coming their way makes it more even.
The Braves obviously didnt think much of Peraza, and they thought they can get more value out of Olivera/1st rd pick than Wood.
Wonder if the dodgers don’t immediately flip peraza whether they’d consider moving him back to SS. If I recall correctly, he was moved off SS because of Simmons and I don’t recall hearing any reason he was deficient there. Maybe another long term SS option for the Dodgers if Seager moves to 3b?
Braves gonna Braves. At least this trumps the idiotic Markakis deal.
Aside from the Markakis deal, who the Braves are paying market value for at the moment… Excluding this deal, what deal in the past 12 months have the Braves made that you didn’t like???
Moreover, this year Markakis is making $11 million and looks to be good for about 2.0 WAR, which is slightly below market rate of $6 million per win. So even that argument doesn’t hold. Deal could look bad in 2017-2018, but with an increasing price per win over time, probably not.
So the Dodgers are only on the hook for Olivera’s bonus and not the future guaranteed money, is that correct?
Correct.
Seems I’m the only Braves fan who likes this move. By most accounts – including Kiley’s here, Badler, Law, etc – Olivera has a very high likelihood of being an impact bat, and can play 2B or 3B at an above average level. The recent track record of elite Cuban position players who made the jump is pretty damn good. So he’s 30, big deal. At that cost, I’m not sweating paying him through his age-35 season. Braves fans, even the ones like me who have liked just about every move Hart has made, have been clamoring to go get some bats to go with all the pitching. Our system is thin on those. On the open market, what are we going to come away with? BJ Upton, Dan Uggla, Nick Markakis? Or should we make a Robinson Cano/Albert Pujols-type splash? Because those are working great. Peraza is a nice prospect, but is more valuable at SS and isn’t playing there anytime soon for us AND has been surpassed by Ozzie as our best prospect at the same position. Wood is nice too… also a huge injury risk, probably more so than most young pitchers as Dave alluded to, and happens to play a position where we’ve just gone out and acquired a bazillion high-ceiling guys over the last nine months. That’s why you do that.
I guess it just comes down to what Olivera becomes. Yes, it’s a risky move… all moves are risky! Not making moves is also risky! Baseball is risky! And I think people are probably overrating what Peraza and Wood might have otherwise brought back. A rental like Price? Yeah, sure, would probably be enough, but obviously not the type of assets we are after. It’s also a nice sign, to me at least, that we aren’t sitting around until 2018 waiting on all the young guys, and have every intention of competing next season. I mean, are these ridiculous projections?
1B – Freeman +4 WAR
2B – Peterson +2 WAR
SS – Simmons +4 WAR
3B – Olivera +3 WAR (seems reasonable)
RF – Markakis +2 WAR
CF – Maybin (if he sticks around past Friday) +3 WAR
Think we can cobble together a pretty good rotation out of Miller, Minor (hopefully), Teheran, Wisler, Banuelos, Jenkins, Folty.
Take those players and quite a bit of open payroll space (hopefully used smartly on a LF, C, bench/bullpen/etc), and it’s pretty intriguing to me.
Forgive me for drinking the Hart/Coppy kool-aid, but I believe in those guys at this point.
By the way… I wasn’t crazy about the Markakis deal either. Still not crazy about it. But he is what he is, and there wasn’t a big-league RF in our organization after we traded Heyward.
None of those projections looks ridiculous individually, but in the aggregate I don’t see them as plausible. The only one I’m pretty confident about is Freeman.
Simmons is not going to hit 4 WAR again if he doesn’t take big steps forward with the bat, and I don’t know why he would.
Markakis will be a year older, and his current offensive profile doesn’t look very sustainable to me.
2 WAR is probably more like Peterson’s ceiling, not a good central-tendency projection.
Maybin’s been better than projected this year, but he’s only hit the 3-WAR level once in his career, and is not on that kind of pace this year.
So no, I don’t think they’ve got a group here that can compete next season, at least not without a very good free-agent signing or two. And I think if this is all Peraza and Wood can bring back right now, they should have just held onto them.
Disagree on Simmons. His 2012 season prorated to +6 WAR, he followed that up with +4.5 WAR, then had a down year, and is now en route to another +4 WAR season. He’s not even 26 yet, so I think it’s a perfectly fair projection.
But yes, it would require us to add a couple good players, notably at C and LF. And I assume that’s what we plan on doing, whether with money or with our prospects.
And, I’m not saying we’ll be favorite or anything. But I think we will be competitive. And I don’t think we are looking at a long, drawn-out rebuild.
Dude, I agree… The bullpen needs major, major work though…
Dave, any chance the commissioner doesn’t approve the deal because of the $4o million the Dodgers are paying? What the Dodgers are doing is bad for baseball and is pricing the Dodger fans out of going to games. Most fans can’t watch them on TV because of their TV deal which is fueling the cash flow. At some point the fans have to pay for all of this stuff.
What the Dodgers spend has little to do with what they charge their fans.
They will charge the fans the absolute most they can get away with, either way. Having a better team means fans will be more willing to pay more, that’s all.
Ok, I think we get it – Whenever the Dodgers do stuff, it’s smart. I recall the same being said for everything the Red Sox did. oh wait….
Much different. The brilliance here is that the Dodgers front-loaded the deal with Olivera (through the signing bonus) so his remaining contract is fairly cheap, making him a valuable trade chip.
The Red Sox, on the other hand, bought up a crazy glut of position players and THEN added the Panda/Hanley coup-de-grace, giving them an excess of guys who are NOT viable trade chips (unless the Sox eat the majority of the contracts on Panda, Hanley, Craig, or even Castillo)
and they’ll be throwing out Wood and his 89mph ‘heater’ and Latos who may not even make it to October in the post-season. Might be a short one though if the Giants take the division anyway.
Wood may not throw super hard, but he is one pace for a 3 win season. I’ll gladly take a 3 win player no matter how he got there, thank you very much.
So Olivera is under contract for the next five years (his age 31-35 seasons) at $32.5 million total, or $6.5 million per year.
If his hitting in Cuba translates well to the US, this looks like a Ben Zobrist kind of deal, which would probably mean more surplus value than Alex Wood. Not as bad a deal for the Braves as I first thought.
Yes, project Olivera as the 5th most valuable positional player in the game (as Zobrist was from 2011-2014) and this deal makes a lot of sense for the Braves. However, that appears a tad optimistic.
Ben Zobrist would not have been blocked in LA
Zobrist kind of deal, not necessarily Zobrist’s production. I didn’t make that clear in what I wrote so my bad.
I’m excited for “corporate profits” to come out of the bullpen throwing smoke for the Marlins this afternoon
It’s the hot new technique: put a 50-foot-tall stack of $1 bills on the rubber for Carter Capps to stand on, and have it precipitously fall over in the middle of his pitching motion every time.
as a Giants fan this trade is exactly why I was so terrified when Friedman & Zaidi were brought in. They are finding all the loopholes to spend big wisely, not on overpriced free agent contracts. I have no doubt that they planned to flip Olivera back to the Braves this whole time. For nothing but $$$, they now have a young controlled quality starting pitcher, plus a highly rated prospect.
Luckily we have our recent success to bask in, but the future sure looks good in LA. It’s tough to beat the combination of unlimited money + smart front office.
As a dodger fan I appreciate hearing that. I try to give props to the Giants because they deserve it. I was at a game last year in SF and told a giants fan that even though the dodgers had the highest payroll I would trade entire rosters. He was dumbfounded, but I explained it because the Giants had grit. I am excited about our new f.o., though.
This is what love feels like, right?
I’m not impressed with the new front office and less impressed with the team as whole this year. Unless this offense steps up consistently God pitching for this team wouldn’t help. They seem content with the teams play. SMH, everyday I watch them play.
Who ya talkin’ about there, Steve? Seems like your comment could apply to more than one team in this trade.
I agree with you Steve. Up to now I have not been impressed with Dodgers Front office. They make moves reminiscint of small market teams. With Kershaw and Grienke in place I can see not buying huge here. They filled the spots that were needed. I like these latest moves and we will see if they do anything more. I can see them moving an outfielder or something.
Small market teams can’t throw a $28 million signing bonus at Hector Olivera only to turn around and flip him…
Sorry to say people – but NO Cueto, Hammels or Price = NO playoffs.
The Dodgers have a dismal record against teams above 500, and adding Latos, Wood and Arroyo ain’t gonna put a dent in that stat!
Kerch and Greinke will have to go undefeated the rest of the way in order for the Dodgers to finish 5 games back of a wild card spot!
They’ll be 5 games back of Frisco by mid-August and flounder out of contention for the remained of the season licking their chops all the way to the bank!
I hate to say it, but maybe next year folks!
blufan
I agree the Dodgers front office has not lived up to their billing up to now. I have been a bit disappointed after hearing so much good. They have been making moves reminiscint of a small market team. I can see the logic in these latest moves. They already have Kershaw and Greinke. They needed a good #3 and 4 pitchers and allow Bolsinger to slide to #5. I think they got that and they got it cheaply enough. Also included a nice prospect or value and some relief help which if it woks the Dodgers need. Moves like this can re-energize someone so I see Latos fitting perfectly here. Wood could be a nice gift here going into playoffs.
Shelling out 40 million to essentially buy prospects and solid MLB pitching, on the heels of blowing their international slot budget ot of the water, is acting like a small market team? Hmm. We’re all entitled to our opinions, I guess.
Adding a 3 win pitcher (Wood) and a 2 win pitcher (Latos) to their rotation won’t help the Dodgers? Okay. I’m glad you don’t run my team.
I wouldnt call Jim Johnson a solid reliever. He was awful last year for Oakland and a pitch to contact relievers like him are a dime a dozen.
The Dodgers basically traded nearly a 1st round draft pick, and Olivera for Wood. That is the real value here. Peraza is a no walk, no power middle infielder. Very little value there. The real pieces are a 30 year old hitter, for a 24 yr old pitcher & a high round draft pick.
Getting 2 months of Latos in a salary dump of Michael Morse and some throwaway prospects is something rich clubs can do. That is an average deal.
Still, if you are going to take on $48 mils in obligations, you’d expect more quality with that type of committment. Not a collection of average players. Its the great players they need. Not the average ones.
The word you want is “marquee” player, as in star. Not marquis, as in French nobility.
i just assumed he was talking about jason marquis
You take “reins” (noun, like a horse) not “reigns” (verb, like a king)