Evaluating Giancarlo Stanton’s Award-Worthiness

We’re in the pennant race home stretch, when thoughts of hardcore and casual baseball fans alike turn to the individual and team hardware that will be presented in the coming weeks. Memories will be made, and the annual class of heroes and goats will be added to the game’s record. This year, in addition to the “official” MLB awards that will be handed out to the game’s best, Fangraphs is getting into the act, with its first annual Player of the Year Award. I am privileged to be one of the 11 voters, and rest assured, I will take my vote quite seriously. One player who is likely to fill a spot on my Top Ten is Giancarlo Stanton – a player who hasn’t had a single at bat since he was hit in the face by a Mike Fiers pitch on September 11. How should this and other factors, such as the offensive context of Marlins Park, affect the thought processes of award voters?

The Fangraphs voters’ award ballots will be made public, and I have a strong feeling that they’re not simply going to be a regurgitation of the year-end WAR standings. Still, I would imagine that every voter will at least take a gander at those numbers before submitting his or her final ballot. At the end of Sunday’s games, here are the position player WAR rankings behind some guy who plays center field for the Angels:

PLAYER WAR
Brantley 6.5
Lucroy 6.2
Donaldson 6.2
McCutchen 6.2
Stanton 6.0
Rendon 6.0
Gordon 5.9
Bautista 5.9

Quite a logjam there, and that’s before you count a bunch of other guys at 5.5-5.6 WAR, plus the three top starting pitchers – Clayton Kershaw, Corey Kluber and Felix Hernandez – who are clearly worthy of Player of the Year ballot consideration. Not to mention a handful of other niche competitors who fall a bit short on WAR but are at least worthy of down-ballot consideration. What on earth does one do to separate the players within this group? Every voter will have their own way of doing so. Of all of these players, however, exactly one player’s season is 100% in the books, and that’s Stanton’s.

One thing that I will not be holding against Stanton is the 17 games he missed at the end of the season. The other players in the same WAR area code will play more games than him – McCutchen’s total will likely be the same. On a per game basis, Stanton deserves a slight bump in his WAR total compared to this group. He was on track to play 162 games this season, and while no one can say for sure if that would have come to pass, I’m not about to hold a pitch to the face against him when he was already 90% of the way there.

I’m also going to regress defensive statistics a bit when I put my final ballot together. Guys who get too much of their value from the more esoteric, subjective side of the ledger are going to take a little bit of a hit. I’m going to look at defensive numbers over multiple years, with 2014 getting the heaviest weighting. This probably doesn’t bode too well for Alex Gordon, for example, but it probably won’t hurt Stanton, who gets virtually all of his value from his offense.

I’m also going to do everything I can to ensure that context is properly weighed when evaluating each player. On the surface, this would appear to be a key area of consideration when Stanton is put under the microscope. He plays his home games in one of the more pitcher-friendly parks in the major leagues – according to my own park factors, which rely upon granular batted-ball data, Marlins’ Park was the 3rd most pitcher-friendly park in the majors in 2013, with a 90.2 park factor. It had the 5th lowest fly ball park factor (76.1), and the 8th lowest line drive park factor (96.2). At the midpoint of the 2014 season, the picture wasn’t much different – a 90.5 fly ball, and 95.9 liner PF. Does Stanton’s 2014 WAR figure properly represent the context in which he has performed?

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Let’s take a closer look at Stanton’s 2014 plate appearance outcome frequency and production by BIP type data to attempt to answer these questions. First, the frequency information:

FREQ – 2014
Stanton % REL PCT
K 26.6% 131 90
BB 14.7% 191 97
POP 9.7% 127 83
FLY 28.1% 101 52
LD 20.3% 98 43
GB 41.8% 96 43

Though Stanton remains a very high K guy, he is showing some progress in that area. His 26.6% K rate and 90 percentile rank are both career lows – he makes such thunderous contact, as we shall see, that every additional bit of it makes a difference. His 14.7% BB rate matches the career high he set in 2013, and his percentile rank of 97 comes up fractionally short. A much higher percentage of his free passes were intentional this season – if he can bounce back to his 2013 unintentional pass level, his OBP could pass the .400 mark going forward.

Except for his injury-plagued 2013 season, when he had a very low fly ball percentile rank of 26, Stanton’s fly ball rate has been near league average, in a narrow band between percentile ranks of 41 and 59 (52 in 2014). His liner rate has been operating within an even narrower band, between his 2014 mark of 38 and 45, for the last four seasons. His popup rate is high – 83 percentile rank in 2014 – but manageable for a power hitter.

Frequency-wise, Stanton basically is who he is, though he is making some small strides around the margins. With a guy who impacts the ball like Stanton, the really interesting stuff – especially with regard to context – will show up in his production by BIP type information:

PROD – 2014
Stanton AVG OBP SLG REL PRD ADJ PRD
FLY 0.416 1.347 290 352
LD 0.808 1.384 190 147
GB 0.327 0.353 181 142
ALL BIP 0.417 0.798 206 194
ALL PA 0.285 0.391 0.546 173 165

Stanton’s actual production on each BIP type is indicated in the AVG and SLG columns, and it’s converted to run values and compared to MLB average in the REL PRD column. That figure then is adjusted for context, such as home park, luck, etc., in the ADJ PRD column. For the purposes of this exercise, SH and SF are included as outs and HBP are excluded from the OBP calculation.

To put it bluntly, Stanton devastates the baseball. He’s batting .416 AVG-1.347 SLG on fly balls this season, for actual REL PRD of 290. Adjustment for context pushes that figure up to an ADJ PRD of 352 – it doesn’t get much higher than that. In 2013, Stanton’s 364 ADJ PRD on fly balls was 2nd in the majors to Chris Davis‘ 393. Stanton’s raw numbers on liners are ridiculous – .808 AVG-1.384 SLG, including an amazing 7 line drive homers. As good as Stanton is, adjustment for context reins in his 190 REL PRD on liners to a 147 ADJ PRD. No one in baseball besides Stanton – who had a 163 ADJ PRD on liners – matched this figure last season. Oh, and he hits his grounders hard too, with his 181 REL PRD adjusted down to 142 ADJ PRD for context.

On all BIP, Stanton has batted .417 AVG-.798 SLG this season, for a 206 REL PRD, which is adjusted downward to 194 ADJ PRD for context. This was actually a step up from his 185 ADJ PRD on all BIP in 2013, when Stanton struggled to get the ball in the air with frequency. When the K’s and BB’s are added back, his overall 2014 figures fall to 173 REL PRD and 165 ADJ PRD, due to Stanton’s very high K rate.

Let’s take a second to step back and put Stanton’s ball-striking ability into some sort of perspective. There have been 198 fly balls hit at 105 MPH or higher in the major leagues this season. Stanton has hit 14 of them. No one else has hit more than 8 105 MPH fly balls – Mike Trout, Mike Morse and George Springer have hit that many, while Chris Carter has hit 7. Stanton has hit the two single hardest fly balls, 3 of the hardest 8, and 7 of the hardest 28 fly balls hit in the major leagues this season. In all of 2014 only two lefties – Pablo Sandoval and Ryan Howard – and six righties – Hunter Pence, Justin Ruggiano, Ian Desmond, Josh Donaldson, Stanton and Springer – have hit 105 MPH fly balls to the opposite field. In the first half of 2014, 0.7% of fly balls were hit at 105 MPH or higher – 13.7% of Stanton’s were.

In addition to the 14 105 MPH fly balls hit by Stanton, he hit another 19 between 100-105 MPH. The vast majority of these fly balls are home runs regardless of the park in which they are hit. Most “normal” power hitters hit maybe one or two 105 MPH fly balls, and maybe a dozen more between 100-105 MPH. Adam Jones, for example, had 2 105 MPH fly balls and 12 100-105 MPH fly balls in 2013, and he’s no slouch. It’s the batted balls in the next couple of buckets down that are most affected by context – Stanton hit only six 97.5-100 MPH and four 95-97.5 MPH fly balls in 2014. By contrast, in 2013 Jones hit 14 and 13, respectively. Giancarlo Stanton defies context. Whereas you might want to adjust Marcell Ozuna’s – or any other mortal Marlins righty hitter’s with power in the normal range – numbers upward a little bit for the effects of Marlins Park, there is no need to do so for Stanton.

I am comfortable with the numbers in Stanton’s production by BIP type table above – if anything, his 2014 numbers are inflated a bit by relative overperformance on liners and grounders. He hits his liners hard, but .808 AVG-1.384 SLG? No way that requires an upward adjustment. His pull ratio – ground balls hit to (LF-LCF sectors)/(RCF-RF sectors) – on the ground is extreme at 6.11. He is an automatic overshift guy who has a large amount of batting average risk on the ground. Stanton’s greatness – and he is great, make no mistake about it – is fully reflected in his WAR total. He doesn’t need any further help, beyond making him a 162-game player.

Things change awfully quickly in this game. A year ago, most assumed that the Marlins were in long-term rebuild mode, and that Stanton would be moved to rebuild the organization yet again from the ground up. Now, the Phillies and Braves’ arrows are pointed down, the Mets’ is pointed sideways, and only the Nationals stand in the ascendant Marlins’ path in the NL East in the near term. Stanton is very likely staying in town, with a youthful, exciting, rapidly improving cast around him. He isn’t without risk – the K rate and the excessive grounder pulling are cases in point – but thunderous contact such as his takes a long, long while to regress to anywhere near the mean. He’ll be on my Player of the Year ballot, though not at the top, and I wouldn’t expect him to win the NL MVP, either. His long term future may be brighter than anyone on the ballot, however – at 24, he’s two months younger than George Springer.





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Anon
11 years ago

There have been 198 fly balls hit at 105 MPH or higher in the major leagues this season.

Is this data publicly available? Is the data for line drives and ground balls also available?

Also, I am curious about the results of Matt Holliday.

dude
11 years ago
Reply to  Anon
joser
11 years ago
Reply to  Anon

For home runs, speed off the bat (and other data like horizontal and vertical angle) is available at hittrackeronline.com. More extensive data (such as spin) is probably part of HitFX and isn’t generally available.

You’ll note (see the second row of tables) that Holliday currently holds what hittracker calls the “Golden Sledgehammer” (hitter with the longest average true distance for the 2014 season with a minimum of 17 homers) at 419.7, a commanding 4 feet over second-place Stanton.

Anon
11 years ago
Reply to  joser

The author doesn’t seem to be taking his data from this site. Holliday has 16 HR with ball speed off bat of 105+ MPH. The article says “Stanton has hit 14 of them. No one else has hit more than 8 105 MPH fly balls

steve
11 years ago
Reply to  Anon

It’s entirely possible that a fair number of those are categorized as line drives rather than fly balls.

Anon
11 years ago
Reply to  Anon

I agree Steve. So are some of Stanton’s HRs. I was just clarifying that the two responses to my question did not provide an adequate answer.

Pirates Hurdles
11 years ago

“On a per game basis, Stanton deserves a slight bump in his WAR total compared to this group.” – As you mentioned in the previous sentence Cutch and he will be similar in games, so why hold a pitch in the spine against Cutch when giving Stanton a bump?

Also, do you really believe Loria will offer him the $250 million it will take to extend him?

Anthony
11 years ago

I would wager the Braves are sideways too. Uggla is gone, and his salary is coming off the books. Teheran, Kimbrel, Freeman, Simmons all being in place for the foreseeable future (four years?) bodes well, and Heyward and Justin Upton have another year. I think Gattis/Bethancourt is capable behind the plate and I like La Stella; pitching-wise, they get guys back and Minor probably won’t be worse. I still think they’ll be a mid/upper-80s win team next season. They’re going to be fine IMO.

Hurtlockertwo
11 years ago
Reply to  Anthony

BJ still sucks and you are stuck with him for 3 more years, package him with his brother and maybe you will get something in return.

Jason B
11 years ago
Reply to  Hurtlockertwo

You get the salaries off the books. Not a lot of talent will go back to Atlanta in return for taking someone on a decent but short contract and a total disaster of a contract.

Johnston
11 years ago
Reply to  Hurtlockertwo

They should just pay BJ to watch the games from home and play a replacement level player in his place.

KenMember since 2016
11 years ago

Stanton’s big risk is the result of being hit in the face. Hopefully there will be no lingering physical or mental effects. But the risk is there.

N8*K
11 years ago

“I’m going to look at defensive numbers over multiple years, with 2014 getting the heaviest weighting.”

Wouldn’t this be in contrast to the definition of this award: the player who “most deserves to be recognized for his outstanding play within the given season”?

It seems the award is intended to recognize the player who had the best season – not necessary the best player.

joser
11 years ago
Reply to  N8*K

We know defensive metrics don’t entirely capture everything about defense, and small samples may be misleading. Looking at past seasons’ defensive numbers gives you a sense of how much you might want to trust this season’s numbers (ie how much you trust the numbers not the performance). While it’s true (despite conventional wisdom) that defense can slump and players can have up and down years defensively, their past body of work can indicate how likely the small sample of a single season my actually reflect what they’re doing in the field (in cases where you haven’t been watching the player in the field in every game).

I’m not particularly happy with this approach, but taking single-season UZR (or whatever defensive stat you prefer) as a complete and accurate summary of the player’s season on defense isn’t ideal either.

Pirates Hurdles
11 years ago
Reply to  joser

My issue here is with the “we know ..”, where do we know that defensive performance does not vary as UZR suggests? Shouldn’t this be “we think …”. If a guy can vary from hitting .270 to .330, why is it unreasonable for him to vary from -10 to plus 10 runs in a given year since most of this value is tied to rare above average plays on the plus end. It doesn’t seem far fetched to think that a player could make 5 to 10 highly difficult plays one year and not in the next without his talent changing. We are not trying to measure his defensive talent, but rather his quantifiable runs saved in year X. Regressing defense to career norms makes as much sense as regressing power numbers.

Cool Lester Smooth
11 years ago

UZR doesn’t suggest anything. We know that it cannot be taken as evidence of a player’s defensive performance in a single season, and is only useful as an evaluation of true talent in a sample of three or more (preferably more) seasons.

Season-to-season variations in UZR are just as likely to be due to errors in data gathering as they are variance in defensive performance.

Pirates Hurdles
11 years ago

So you say this – “Season-to-season variations in UZR are just as likely to be due to errors in data gathering as they are variance in defensive performance.” but start out with this – “We know that it cannot be taken as evidence of a player’s defensive performance in a single season”

How exactly do we “know” this? I keep asking and no one answers. You admit that is could be due to variance in performance so it seems we don’t “know” that it is invalid as a single season measure of performance.

Cool Lester Smooth
11 years ago

You’re right. A single season of UZR tells us nothing. It could be real. It could also have nothing to do with what happened on the field.

A single season sample size is too small to (hopefully) cancel out the subjectivity inherent in the BIS data UZR uses as its input.

Sparkles Peterson
11 years ago
Reply to  N8*K

If you believe a player’s defenisve performance was anomalous, sure. If you believe the value we’ve given to a player’s performance was the anomaly, no.

N8*K
11 years ago

Regardless of whether the results are anomalies, the awards are to recognize what happened, not what should have happened.

If a historically mediocre player has the best season, he should be rewarded as having the best season.

If a player shows off spectacular range in a game, he is often awarded “player of the game”. If he makes a bunch of those plays in a season, why can’t they be considered when talking about “player of the year”?

Cool Lester Smooth
11 years ago
Reply to  N8*K

…you completely misunderstood what Sparkles said.

The issue is that the defensive stats we have access to don’t tell us how a player performed defensively in a single season. There are massive error bars in not just the model, but the inputs to that model.

Over a large sample, defensive stats can give us a rough evaluation of a player’s true talent defensively. They cannot tell us how much value a player provided defensively in any given season, and it’s a misuse of them to pretend otherwise.

Pirates Hurdles
11 years ago
Reply to  N8*K

You do not know that the “massive error bars” are incorrect when comparing season to season UZR. You are assuming this.

Cool Lester Smooth
11 years ago
Reply to  N8*K

Then why do all of the statisticians tell us that a single season sample size is too small to cancel out the variation in input quality?

There’s also the fact that any model which doesn’t account for positioning and throws out every shifted play probably shouldn’t be used as evidence of anything to do with defensive performance, but that’s neither here nor there.

Brian
11 years ago

“One thing that I will not be holding against Stanton is the 17 games he missed at the end of the season … On a per game basis, Stanton deserves a slight bump in his WAR total compared to this group.”

No, no. This is just absurd and FanGraphs is better than this.

First of all, you can’t just credit a player for missing time with an injury. That’s foolish.

Second, and even more egregiously, his main competition, Andrew McCutchen, also missed time this year only on account of a HBP. Even worse, Cutch was hit in the spine in a cowardly, purposeful act.

Finally, and this is off the Stanton-Cutch topic, I have no idea what relation batted-ball data has or should have to the MVP. I don’t care if he’s hit more balls at 105 MPH than anyone else. If a scrub like Martin Prado somehow put together a season where he hit .400 with the worst batted-ball data on earth, he’d be the MVP over Stanton.

The MVP is about outcomes, not processes.

brian
11 years ago
Reply to  Brian

Yet this article isn’t actually about the actual MVP vote.

Pirates Hurdles
11 years ago
Reply to  Brian

Why is no one talking about the ridiculous act by MLB ignoring Randall Delgado and Gibson last month? Stroman gets 5 games, Desclafani 3 games and so on it goes as the norm. No fine or suspension for Tony LaRussa’s guy who blatantly threw at one of the game’s biggest stars resulting in injury. Montero even gave the international FU sign prior to the pitch. MLB needs to decide if it wants beanball wars or if it wants to protect its stars from injury by childish tit for tat justice.

Cool Lester Smooth
11 years ago
Reply to  Brian

You have a funny definition of the word “scrub” if you’re using it to refer to a player who’s averaged over 3 WAR/season since becoming a regular in 2009.

A guy like Nick Punto or Jayson Nix fits the word far better.

pinch
11 years ago
Reply to  Brian

please, tell me more about what fangraphs is about, brian. i thought it was better than rejecting ideas for being supposedly antithetical to site values, but apparently i was wrong. i also thought it was about reading comprehension, but given that you used “MVP” several times in your comment, i seem to be wrong about that too. clearly, i need the enlightenment only brian can provide

Cool Lester Smooth
11 years ago

I’d probably give it to McCutchen over Stanton (Kershaw beats either, though). Not only has Cutch been the best offensive player in the NL, but he is the difference between the Pirates making the playoffs and not making the playoffs.

The value of a win is not linear. Taking a team from 82 to 89 wins provides more value to that team than taking them from 69 to 79 wins.

Jon L.
11 years ago

The value of a win is not linear, which does matter when building a ballclub, but the player plays no part in determining where on the curve the team would be without his contribution, and therefore deserves no extra credit for it.

Mike13
11 years ago

I don’t think so at all, you shouldn’t value Stanton less just because the team around him is weaker than McCutchen’s. If Stanton were on Pittsburgh he’d be providing those same wins that McCutchen is.

Cool Lester Smooth
11 years ago
Reply to  Mike13

I think the MVP is about the player who has provided the most value to his team over the course of the season.

Making the playoffs provides roughly a metric fuckton of additional revenue.

If a guy is the difference between a team making or missing the playoffs, I think it should be considered.

Jason B
11 years ago

McCutchen gets credit for those front office moves that surrounded him with a better team? Hmmm.

Cool Lester Smooth
11 years ago
Reply to  Jason B

It’s no different from giving Stanton credit for his RE24, which is the only way to say that he’s been more valuable than McCutchen.

John Candy
11 years ago

Insert nit-picky criticism here. Nice article, although I am dizzy from all of those acronyms

BlueJays93
11 years ago

“Taking a team from 82 wins to 89 wins provides more value to that team than taking them from 69 wins to 79 wins.” Really? I thought it was the team that was doing the winning. Did I miss something? Oh, right. Stanton’s 6 wins above replacement were really 10. In fact, he won all their games, didn’t he?
Yes, I agree with your statement that the difference between a playoff team and a non-playoff team is substantial. 54 wins and 81 wins mean the same thing when it comes to playoff contention. If the MVP award were for “the player that was the most crucial to his team’s success”, then let McCutchen win. If the MVP award were recognizing the player whose team’s playoff hopes were most bolstered by the performance of that player, then let McCutchen win.
But it’s not.
I believe the Most Valuable Player is the player whose individual performance would contribute the most value to any team he may play for, in turn reflecting the player who added the most wins above his replacement. So whether or not McCutchen leads his team to the playoffs or not is irrelevant, in my opinion, to the MVP discussion. You may define the award differently, as it is admittedly a subjective term, but I strongly believe that a player’s individual ability and outstanding performance is directly correlated to his value – not to his particular team, rather to any team. Looking at it from a reverse perspective, taking into account the team one plays for is like crowning the Angels the World Series Champions, regardless of whether they win it deservedly or not, just because they own Mike Trout.

Cool Lester Smooth
11 years ago
Reply to  BlueJays93

And I think it’s about which Player provided the Most Value to his team. Giving McCutchen extra credit for the Pirates making the playoffs is no different than giving Stanton extra credit for the difference between his RE24 and his wRAA.

Also, the numbers were intentionally exaggerated. I think there’s a real argument that a 7 win performance that takes you from 82 to 89 is more valuable than a 10 win performance that takes you from 69 to 79.

The fact that McCutchen has more WAR than Stanton in fewer games and PA is besides the point of the discussion.

Beyond finding it intellectually interesting to play devil’s advocate, I really do think we should take into account the difference between pushing a team to 89 wins and pushing a team to 79 wins. After all, the award is called “Most Valuable Player,” not “Most Outstanding Player.” There is a difference beyond semantics.

Psy Jung
11 years ago

What’s your opinion on pitch framing? Is it something you’ll give any weight to?

Devin Mesoroco
11 years ago
Reply to  Psy Jung

Pitch Framing? Who cares. Of all the pitches caught above 101 MPH this year, nearly all of them are by me. Put the award in the bag.

RichS
11 years ago

McCutchen has a 6.6 WAR vs. Stanton’s 6.0 (http://www.fangraphs.com/warleaders.aspx?season=2014&team=nl&type=).

Did he gain .4 WAR overnight?

And that’s in fewer games and plate appearances.

I’d also have Stanton on my ballot. Also not at the top. Maybe 3rd. It comes down to Kershaw and McCutchen. For MVP, the question is whether the Cy Young is “the award for pitchers”.

For fangraphs Player of the Year? Beats me – what’s the definition?

RichS
11 years ago
Reply to  RichS

Now I see “At the end of Sunday’s games”. Cutch must have had a heck of a Monday/Tuesday.

btw – you leave off Trout and include Brantley. Is this MLB or NL? For MLB, the answer is obvious, and this is a moot discussion.

Brian
11 years ago
Reply to  RichS

He left out Trout on purpose because, you know…. Trout. He throws off the whole scale of things.

Pirates Hurdles
11 years ago
Reply to  RichS

He did, the HR for the only run in Monday’s game and a 4-4 on base in a 3-2 win yesterday.

RichS
11 years ago

Cutch is now 6.7 vs. Stanton’s 6.1, with fewer G, AB, PA. So that’s an easy one. Stanton’s in the list, not in the top 5 (across MLB)

And again, if the question is a single player from MLB, the obvious choice was taken out of the discussion, so I guess this is a “who finishes second” discussion. The titled “Award Worthiness” is an obvious no – he isn’t #1, and isn’t worthy of winning it.