Finding the Next Great Defensive Turnaround

There are different ways to turn a team around. That’s probably an obvious thing to say, but it’s true. Another thing that’s obvious and true: teams are made of humans. Because of that, no turnaround is entirely uniform in nature.

Even so, a team might emphasize certain traits when attempting to rebuild or improve. On-base skills, power, etc. Some of those turnarounds are easy to follow; others, less so.

Given the relatively short history of defensive metrics, the turnaround of team defense hasn’t been thoroughly chronicled, and yet teams have certainly made it a priority. Just last year, the Astros and Indians exhibited improvements in the field in a way rarely matched. Looking further back, it’s possible to find other teams that have accomplished the same feat. The question, though: how did they it? Maybe it’s possible to use past successes as a road map for current teams! So, let’s find the next Indians and Astros.

First, let’s get an idea for how last year’s Indians and Astros compare to previous clubs. Here’s how their two-year turnaround on defense ranks among other teams since 2002, when Ultimate Zone Rating first appeared on the site.

Biggest Two-Year Turnarounds on Defense
Team Years UZR Turnaround
Royals 2005-2007 20.8
Blue Jays 2003-2005 18.3
Yankees 2005-2007 18.1
Mariners 2007-2009 17.9
D-Backs 2008-2010 16.5
Astros 2014-2016 16.1
Orioles 2012-2014 15.6
Braves 2010-2012 15.4
Indians 2014-2016 15.2
UZR Turnaround = Two-year Difference in Team Ultimate Zone Rating

The Indians and Astros produced defensive turnarounds last year that place them both among the top 10 — and those improvements were vital to their overall success. We should give some love to those early Alex Gordon Royals, too.

Looking over the best defensive turnarounds for each team in the last 15 seasons, a few trends emerge.

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  • Two-thirds of the team’s defenders produced a negative UZR in the first year.
  • Of the 30 teams, 27 improved in the second year.
  • The average club doubled their improvement in the third year.
  • Irrespective of team quality, the majority of teams were building on a young core.

The average team added six wins between their first and third seasons, so there’s a decent amount on the line for our next Indians/Astros/Royals team. The first step is easy. Let’s identify the contenders — teams that improved the most from a negative in 2015.

Biggest Turnarounds on Defense 2015-2016
Team UZR Turnaround
White Sox 8.3
Yankees 6.2
Red Sox 5.0
Phillies 4.8
Nationals 4.4

So we come to the more subjective part of the enterprise, because a great defensive turnaround without a whole team turnaround isn’t quite as exciting. These things are all intertwined. Are you putting fringe glove-first guys onto a bad team, or are you building something interesting with young players replacing veterans?

Which of these teams is building around that sort of young core and replacing aging, poor defenders with exciting young building blocks? And which are more like the 2008-2010 D-backs, who were improving on defense as they were losing good starting pitching? That team was a year early in 2010 — they jumped up to 94 wins in 2011, once they figured out some pitching to go with their players.

That seems to describe the White Sox. Sure, the team has improved defensively by replacing Alexei Ramirez with Tim Anderson, taking Avisail Garcia off the field, moving Adam Eaton off center, and moving on from Micah Johnson and Mike Olt. They can improve further by finding someone to take over for Melky Cabrera and Brett Lawrie in the future. But, even as Yoan Moncada is coming, the rest of their top prospects are pitchers, and it seems too early to cast them as the Indians or Astros.

You could say the same about the Phillies. They’re building, but it might be a little early for them to really qualify. Ryan Howard and Jeff Francoeur were two of the biggest millstones on the defense of that 2015 Phillies team, and Chase Utley and Cody Asche also didn’t help much. Howard and Asche still got more than 1000 innings last year, so there’s some opportunity for further improvement. More innings from defensive stalwart Aaron Altherr will help, but how much will Michael Saunders do on defense? Will Maikel Franco improve or regress? It’s an open question, given the questions surrounding his glove on the way up.

The Nationals won 83 games and were 23rd in team defense in 2015. They replaced Ian Desmond with Danny Espinosa, Yunel Escobar with Anthony Rendon, and Denard Span with Michael Taylor and Trea Turner, generally getting younger and better at key positions. They’ll hope to add more than the six wins that the typical team added, but they do actually fit the bill in key ways. On the other hand, they also have a decent amount of doubt going into a season where Turner will take over at shortstop — this, after the Nationals seemed to want to keep him from the position on his way up. He’s also taking over for a decent shortstop, while less talented defenders Ryan Zimmerman, Jayson Werth, and Daniel Murphy all return.

So we’re left with the Red Sox and Yankees, and a possible Indians/Astros type defensive turnaround is possible for both teams. The problem with the Red Sox is that the iffy spots that plagued them defensively in 2014 might be back in 2016. Hanley Ramirez is no longer in the outfield, but Pablo Sandoval is back at third base, and Brock Holt, too, who was not great there that year.

But if Mitch Moreland plays more first base — and does so better than Ramirez — if young Xander Bogaerts improves defensively again, if Andrew Benintendi is a good defender and plays mostly every day, this could be an excellent defensive team. And with the type of pitching and offense, that will make the Red Sox look like an prescient pick for our next Astros/Indians.

In 2015, the Yankees played Brett Gardner too much in center field. Carlos Beltran got nearly 1000 innings in the outfield. Chase Headley began to show his age. Chris Young was bad in the outfield.

Things are complicated by the Matt Holliday and Chris Carter signings, but the team has plenty of young positional talent that can come in and outperform those names defensively. Gleyber Torres, Clint Frazier, Aaron Judge, and Jorge Mateo provide the hope on that end. It’ll take another huge swing in defense to join the best of the UZR era, but the pieces are there. But unlike the Red Sox, it’s unclear if the pitching will be there for the team to win and complete the narrative.

This sort of analysis breaks down quickly when you start looking at the team specifically and analyzing one-year UZR numbers. And there are confounding factors that arise when you’re trying to look at teams as one entity — you see how pitching, offense, and team win cycles all have a lot to do with the choices that made the Astros and the Indians.

But it is still instructive to see what teams have turned it around defensively in the past, and by how much. Because it’s an underreported benefit of building a young core. With some evidence that defense peaks earlier than offense, you can see in these turnarounds another benefit to gathering young talent at important positions. Their gloves are better.

So, it’s almost better to squint and generalize. Do the Red Sox and Yankees both have exciting young cores on offense? Yes! Could those young players also lead to the same kinds of defensive turnarounds we saw in Houston and Cleveland last year? Yes! Will it happen the same way, though?





With a phone full of pictures of pitchers' fingers, strange beers, and his two toddler sons, Eno Sarris can be found at the ballpark or a brewery most days. Read him here, writing about the A's or Giants at The Athletic, or about beer at October. Follow him on Twitter @enosarris if you can handle the sandwiches and inanity.

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mattMember since 2023
9 years ago

Padres?

mattMember since 2023
9 years ago
Reply to  Eno Sarris

I don’t think he will start when Renfroe and Margot are up, but they could have them start in AAA for service time reasons, who knows

Barney Coolio
9 years ago
Reply to  Eno Sarris

Yeah, I think Dickerson is firmly behind Jankowski, Renfoe, and Margot. He could also spot start at 1b or take over if Myers gets hurt. I see Dickerson getting maybe 350 plate appearances, perhaps more if someone gets injured.

Maverik312
9 years ago
Reply to  Eno Sarris

Dickerson starts IMO. He hasn’t had a BABIP below .360 since 2013, and it was .274 last year. He walks a little bit lower than league average, but his K% is always less than 20%. His ISO has hovered around .200. I think between Manny and Hunter developing, at least this year, Dickerson is starting in LF. CBS projects him to start and if I do a quick Google search, it doesn’t look like Manny is starting yet.

dannykirkland
9 years ago
Reply to  Eno Sarris

Came to the comments section to make this exact point. They actually improved by ~4.7 UZR from 2015-2016 and were still at about -25 UZR last year.

You could certainly argue whether they’ll be good or elite in 2017 (PECOTA thinks they’ll have the best defense in baseball) but even if they just field a league average defense they’ll be most improved two year offense in the UZR era.

mike sixelMember since 2016
9 years ago

Twins are about to stop the DanSan/Grossman OF, and next year add Gordon at SS. They just replaced Suzuki with Castro. That really leaves 3B and 2B and 1B w/o above average or better defense after next year. But ya, that whole pitching thing is probably an issue….

jwise224Member since 2024
9 years ago

Sneaky pick: D-backs. More Nick Ahmed, Brandon Drury out of the outfield, probably less Yasmany Tomas, more A.J. Pollock, better catching group. Not saying they’ll be particularly good, but might not be at the very bottom of the heap this year.

oh Hal
9 years ago

What is the reliability and validity of UZR? That should be your starting point and likely ending point. Is there a single team that places significant value in it?

JCCfromDCMember since 2016
9 years ago

Just to quibble about one point: it’s incorrect that the Nationals “seemed to want to keep [Turner] from the [SS] position on his way up.” Turner played SS exclusively in the minors until just before they called him up in 2015. They threw him in at 2b because they had Desmond at SS. In 2016 they started with Espinosa at SS but Turner played SS in the minors (71 games vs. 5 at 2b). Had Espinosa continued to struggle in 2016 Turner almost certainly would have replaced him. But just when the move would be seriously contemplated Espinosa turned into an MVP for six weeks (seriously; his OPS in June was 1.122 – from May 30 to July 16 he went from .198/.298/.309 to .241/.338/.439). And at the same time CF was a gaping void of Ben Revere and Michael A. Taylor. So Turner was thrown into CF after just six games there in the minors.

It only seems that the Nationals wanted to keep Turner from SS if one doesn’t look at what was actually going on with the team and how they used him. There’s a better argument that they stuck with him at SS too long last year and thus made it harder for him to succeed in CF when they were forced to play him there.

JCCfromDCMember since 2016
9 years ago
Reply to  Eno Sarris

Well, it was obvious that Desmond was leaving after 2015 – he turned down the extension offer and then the Nats went and got Turner. But in addition to clubhouse leadership/intangibles/blahblahblah – all true, it would have been a tectonic shock to the team – I believe that it’s an overstatement to say that Desmond was a butcher at SS – the metrics vary quite a bit on him. While he was brutally awful defensively to start 2015, that was not unusual for him – he had already established a pattern of playing poorly defensively early in the season and then borderline brilliantly the rest of the season.

More importantly, the Nats were essentially planning on getting a draft pick out of letting Desmond walk. They managed to get one even when he had a bad season. If they had benched Desmond they could have kissed that draft pick goodbye. And before someone jumps in and says that staying with Desmond cost the Nats a playoff spot, I’ll note that in the second half Desmond not only played good defense, he hit 12 of his 19 HRs and his OPS was a solid (for a SS) .777.