Getting the Astros to 90 Wins
When MLB added a second Wild Card in each league for the 2012 season, making a version of the postseason got easier. More teams were invited into the season’s final month, even if you want to make conditioned arguments about how adding the extra teams changed the nature of in-season roster decisions. Over three seasons, we’ve had six second Wild Cards who averaged just under 90 wins per team per season. It’s a small sample as far as trends go, but the values have been lower in the National League and have generally decreased each year.
As a result, we can essentially say that the average second Wild Card will win about 90 games this year. It might be more or less, but it’s a fairly safe starting assumption. It’s an assumption you take into account when thinking about your team’s chances of making the playoffs. We’ve seen teams make the postseason with fewer wins, and in an age of increasing parity, 88 might do the trick as well. In general, a 90 win team has performed well enough that they will very likely make the playoffs under the current regime.
Which brings us to the 14-7 Houston Astros who currently lead the AL West by four games on April 30. The Astros, if you haven’t noticed, have been bad for quite a few years, and there was an expectation entering the 2015 season that they would remain relatively unimportant to the AL playoff picture. They averaged 58 wins over the previous four seasons, and while they built a team that our Playoff Odds machine projected for 78 wins in 2015, that’s a far cry from the amount needed to make the postseason, as we just learned.
In fact, their postseason odds (wild card + division title) sat around 15% when the season opened at the beginning of the month. Factoring in everything our models knows, such as record to date, injuries, roster moves, and player performance, the Astros are now pegged for 83 wins and a 35% chance of making the playoffs. If you look at our forecast for their rest of season win percentage, it sits at .489, which is up exactly three thousandth of a point from .486 when the season started. In other words, our projections think this team is still a 78 win team, but they’ve won some extra games so far and those don’t go away.
We’re talking about five wins of value already built into their 2015 season after a month of baseball. There were only 37 players in the baseball last year who were worth 5.0 WAR or higher, so the Astros have essentially added an All-Star caliber player to their team without actually adding someone to their team. And just to be safe, we see that they’ve played the Indians, Rangers, Athletics (twice), Angels, Mariners, and Padres. That’s not the hardest schedule in the game so far, but it’s a fair mix of teams. It isn’t like they’re 14-7 because they’ve only seen the Twins and Phillies.
In that vein, the Astros find themselves within seven wins of a playoff berth if everything in the projections holds. Now of course, everything in the projections won’t hold because if they did, the creators of projections would be spending their days ruling the Earth instead of playing around with baseball data, but the nature of a projection is such that the odds of over- or under-performing should be equally likely.
The Astros are on track to win 83 games. We have to start with an assumption, so let’s start with that one. They need to get to 90 wins to make the playoffs. That’s a second assumption. The final assumption is that the ZiPS/Steamer has properly forecasted everyone’s rate stats. We know that they haven’t, but instead of saying they’re too high here and too low there, let’s assume it comes out in the wash. It probably won’t, exactly, but there’s nothing we can really do to fix that for now.
So let’s take this Astros team and find a way to turn them into a playoff team much earlier than everyone expected. Look at our Depth Charts can give us a sense of the team’s current weaknesses. At first base, shortstop, left field, and designated hitter, they are expecting fewer than 2 WAR for the rest of the year. Let’s call those their weak positions. Their starting pitching is at 8.0 WAR, which is in the bottom half, and their relief core is at 1.8, also below average.
We need to find a way for them to achieve a net increase of roughly 7 WAR to become a playoff caliber roster. Is that within reach?
Let’s start with Carlos Correa. By the rules I’ve imposed, I can’t give him a super optimistic projection, but ZiPS thought he was a .300 wOBA hitter before his sizzling start. That might not sound like much, but with Jed Lowrie out, the Astros are planning to give plate appearances to Marwin Gonzalez and Jonathan Villar who are projected for a combined 0.5 WAR in 331 PA at SS. Let’s give 300 of those PA to Correa. According to preseason ZiPS, that’s 1.1 WAR for Correa, or a net increase of 0.6 WAR.
Now let’s move to the outfield and grab Gerardo Parra from the Brewers because the Brewers are bad and Parra seems like an obvious trade candidate. Realistically, we’re probably two months from a trade, but the Brewers are bad enough that they could trade a non-core piece in May. Let’s get him 300 PA in the outfield, taking reps from Robbie Grossman, Evan Gattis, Villar, etc. That should net the team around 0.5 WAR based on the projections.
Next, let’s get the obviously move taken care of; Andre Ethier. If the Astros give him 550 PA at DH, that could wind up around 2.1 WAR depending on how much shifting him to DH affects his value in your mind, which adds 1.3 WAR to the team’s total. On top of that, let’s run George Springer into the ground in RF, and squeeze another half a win out of him by increasing his playing time.
With those easily attainable position player adjustments, we’ve worked our way up to 2.9 WAR without doing anything terribly creative. Maybe it’s a little less depending on your views on the DH penalty.
On the pitching side, the Astros have some big holes in the back of the rotation, so upgrades should be pretty easily to locate. They’re currently projected for 1.5 WAR for the bottom 400 innings of their rotation after Dallas Keuchel, Collin McHugh, and Scott Feldman. Both Cole Hamels and Johnny Cueto are due for about 3.3 WAR over 180 innings, so let’s say the Astros probably need one of them. Let’s say Cole Hamels is the guy, just because they have the payroll space to eat some contract to limit the prospect cost.
Would the decimated Rangers like to get something for Yovani Gallardo? That’s 1.7 WAR or so over 170 innings. If you don’t think he’s the right fit, Matt Garza and Mat Latos project pretty similarly. Include one of those players with Hamels and you’re adding 5.0 WAR for a net gain of 3.5 WAR in the rotation. Right there, you’re at 6.4 WAR before we get to the bullpen. That means you need a win of relief help. Jonathan Papelbon and Addison Reed would do the trick together. Or obviously Aroldis Chapman if they could squeeze a trade out of the Reds. Glen Perkins gets them most of the way there, too.
The Astros need to locate seven wins, and if they promote Correa and trade for Parra and Ethier, while pushing Springer into more games the offense can end up about +3 WAR. If they trade for one of the aces like Hamels or Cueto and a second tier starter, they can get another +3 or so WAR from the rotation. The last win or so requires adding a big name reliever or two, but given their thin pen and plenty of room to add payroll, adding there is feasible.
I wouldn’t necessarily recommend that the Astros chart this course. It would require that they deplete their farm system to some degree, but they have a payroll south of $80 million, so they should be able to hang on to some of their prospects by offering to take on contracts that other teams don’t want. The key here is that while this is an aggressive option, it’s not an implausible one thanks to their great April. The only real stretch is the Hamels/Cueto move, and the Astros do have the prospects and long term payroll flexibility to make the move happen, even if everything seems to think he’ll be a member of the Red Sox come August.
In addition, these needs are based on the idea that the Astros are a .489 team from this day forward. If the projections are even a little low on someone like Springer, Correa, or Marisnick, that could have big implications on what the team has to acquire to make a real run at October baseball. And this is to say nothing of the potential for things to “break right,” and wind up as one of the teams that over-perform the projections by a win or two just based on sequencing and other such things.
So while I would agree with the projections that the Astros aren’t a better than .500 true talent team at the moment despite their great record, they’re seven games over .500 at the end of April and that puts them in position to go for it in 2015 if they’re ready to take advantage of a stumbling AL West. Even if the Astros are no better than we thought four weeks ago, they’ve played themselves into a position where trading for an ace, a quality reliever, and a couple of average players could make them a playoff team without needing any sort of Orioles-style BaseRuns beating wizardry.
It might not be the best strategy for the club in the long run, but if they continue to outrun their projections for another six weeks, it might start to look like an interesting option. After so lean years, the Astros are no longer that far away.
Neil Weinberg is the Site Educator at FanGraphs and can be found writing enthusiastically about the Detroit Tigers at New English D. Follow and interact with him on Twitter @NeilWeinberg44.
There might be a much easier path which you’ve Ignored.
If we can use steamer/zips as baseline assumptions for win %, lets do the same from here on out for the rest of the division. What does it say for the A’s, Angels, and Mariners?
My hunch is that it will be something closer to 87 wins than 90 wins. And given the fact that the ‘Stros have made those teams our Bia (that’s a technical term), I’d be more excited about shooting for this number.
Nice writeup, but it has the obvious flaw noted above (unless I’m wrong on the win projections for the rest of the division).
Can’t look too closely at projections as the projections don’t know who will perform better than expected. 86 expected wins at this point in season would likely make the Astros the favorite for either the Division Winner or the Wild Card. 86 actual wins at end of season won’t do it as some team will outperform its expectations.
That said, the Astros are projected for 83 wins at the moment and should be trying to coax out another 3 expected wins on roster and pray that the odds are in their favor. Heck, a sweep of the Mariners (highly unlikely) would make the Astros the Division Favorite (though less than 50% to win division) by Sunday.
Right: even if the other teams in the division are all projected to win 87 games, one of them is likely to end up with 90 and one of them is likely to end up with 84. It’s similar to how no players are projected to hit more than 30 home runs at the beginning of the season, but the projected highest home run total is something like 40 or 45. (those are made up numbers, but the point stands)
I know this wasn’t the point of the article, but I really hope the Astros do nothing to get those extra 8 wins other than hope their current players beat projections.
For them, sure this is a tangible value to making the playoffs (more monies), but I think the intangible value of greater fan interest is lessened in this case as even being an 83-79 team would generate pretty good interest from the fanbase given how bad they’ve been recently.
They really should do nothing, go around 81-81, and know that they’re still extremely young, with Correa/Appel/et. al. still in the pipeline and go from there.
At least that’s my opinion, an Astros fan who has been through enough awful seasons to live quite happily with 83-79.
100% agree… though I would append “do nothing” with “do nothing but also call up Carlos Correa” b/c, you know… Carlos Correa. And b/c Jonathan Villar.
Astros had been in a local TV dispute for a while before this season and likely don’t have the cash reserves built up for a Hamels type of contract.
The Stros have been “rumored” to have been one of the most profitable teams in baseball the past couple of years even with the local TV dispute likely due to the combination of gate receipts and MLB national TV packages, less their minute payroll.
Just my two cents, because like JoeBuck above, I hope they stand pat and don’t literally sell the farm for the carrot of short-term success when you have a stacked farm system at the upper levels at the minors all knocking on the MLB door.
Those “rumored” stories were all produced by Forbes based on the assumption that the Astros were making $80M/yr in local tv money. The Comcast/Rockets/Astros trial produced paperwork that showed the Astros were actually losing money in their partnership with Comcast, floating the network and not receiving game rights payments. The Astros have not been a profitable team the last three years.
For LF, instead of trading for Parra, they could probably get similar value out of Preston Tucker. He’s leading the PCL in homers, seems like he has a pretty decent eye at the plate, and Kiley gives him average to slightly below-average defense marks. There’s also Domingo Santana in AAA, but a 40% K rate (!) in AAA suggests he’s not doing much to correct his strike out problems.
They also have Nolan Fontana as a stop gap at SS until they want to promote Correa. Averagish defense, and he will likely provide an acceptable OBP (20%+ walk rate in just over 1100 minor league PAs).
How would the phils respond to an offer of Jon Singelton, Lance McCullers, and a fringy AA/AAA prospect like Preston Tucker/Tony Kemp/Domingo Santana, assuming Astros ate the entire Hamels contract?
That is a monstrous overpay. Hamels at $23mm/per is roughly 8mm/WAR as a ~ 3 WAR/yr pitcher.
If you assign negative value to Homerton, offset it with a slight positive in LMc and assume Santana is a 0 – it’s a fair-ish trade.
Right now I don’t think any of the other GM’s in the game assign 0 cumulative future WAR to Homerton/LMc/Santana.
Yeah, the price of a marginal win for a team which perhaps can displace itself from out/in playoffs is worth more. And, yeah, that win in the particular season of displacement is perhaps worth even more.
But. no. Overpay. Overpay by most any reasonable measure.
Astros and Phillies are likely not good trading partners. Phillies see an Ace and don’t see the need to offset his cost. Astros look like they value players based on something surplus value. Hamels is appropriately paid and has minimal expected surplus value.
Lol I love that you think that’s an overpay and that Hamels contract has negative value. It’s like you think WAR completely encapsulates player value and likewise that the MLB FA/trade market follows it. The Hamels contract has large positive value. Why you ask? Because you can’t get a top 20 pitcher (yes, he is that that good) in his prime on a 5 year deal at $22.5m AAV. That is practically what Porcello got. On the open market Hamels would cost much more.
with that in mind I have news for you, other teams don’t want the Singleton contract and Mccullers + a fringy prospect isn’t getting it done. McCullers is the 2nd piece in a Hamels deal, it’s called acquisition cost.
Shields was a viable option in off season for similar value at similar cost without needing to trade 3 prospects. Your view of value is similar to the Phillies and that is why the Phillies and Astros won’t deal. It is also why Hamels is still a Philly. Granted, some team is likely to cave and overpay from a surplus value standpoint for Hamels…just don’t expect it to be the Astros who have went through a lot of losing acquiring prospects with surplus value.
Ok PhillyJeff, if you say so.
Lester is the same age and got ~ 25mm/yr out of a major market deep pocket team.
He’s also better than Hamels. Materially better. The difference between Lester – Hamels is effectively the same as Hamels – Hendricks.
Tell you what PhillyJeff, I’ll dial in to Luhnow and suggest Altuve, Springer, Correa, + absorbing the entire contract. Also maybe we can send a nice cookie bouquet as a sweetener.
Marginally, Hamels is worth that much less to your joke of a season as he is a premium to ours. Good luck with that.
Hammels is not on an ‘open’ market. The monetary value one assigns to his expected baseball value needs to reflect that fact.
“Lester is the same age and got ~ 25mm/yr out of a major market deep pocket team.
He’s also better than Hamels. Materially better. The difference between Lester – Hamels is effectively the same as Hamels – Hendricks.”
I’m a Mets fan who hates Hamels and the Phillies but this is an utterly ridiculous comment.
Hamels – 36.9 WAR in 279 career starts
Lester – 30.7 WAR in 256 career starts
Lester was about a win and a half better last year but Hamels was one win better in 2013 and two wins better in 2012 and 2011. I’m not sure how you can say Lester is better, much less
“materially better” than Hamels.
And I think both you and Jeff are wrong about the deal Plucky proposed. I think it’s an interesting deal that makes sense for both teams. The Phillies would get shed Hamels contract and get a couple of OK prospects. The Astros would be getting Hamels without giving up a significant piece and shedding the $11M or so left on Singleton’s deal.
I suggested that mix because I think it is a mild overpay but does not seriously deplete the Astros’ minor league talent.
Hamels does have some surplus value- if he were an open market FA, I think he’d probably get 5-6 yrs, 25-26 per. His current deal is 4 (incl this season) at 23.5 per, with an option for 5. Most of the excess value in the contract is in the length rather than the salary rate- an acquiring team is not on the hook for paying big $ to a 37-year old.
On the Astros side, I think Singleton has surplus value at his contract- if he can manage to be even a bottom tier starter he’s a bargain at 5/10, and at his age he’s still likely to reach that level. Singleton + McCullers + Santana (or Kemp) definitely has excess value, but given the specific Astros circumstances I think those are guys they can part with and not really impinge their trajectory- with Hamels they’d have 3 SP’s locked down for multiple years with Appel on the way, so McCullers probably ends up in the pen. Singleton has already been squeezed out at 1B/DH, and will soon be pressed from behind by AJ Reed. With Marisnick looking like a real ML player, only LF is a question mark in the outfield, and between Santana, Tucker, and Aplin there’s not room to give everyone at AAA a shot.
What about the Astros taking on some/most of Howard’s contract as part of a Hamels deal? I would imagine the Phillies wouldn’t feel comfortable trying to sell that to their fanbase, but maybe some mid-tier prospects, a big chunk of Howard’s contract, and all of Hamels’ contract?
I don’t think Parra in left field would move the needle at all; he’s unlikely to generate enough defensive value there to outweigh the offense that Rasmus could bring with increased playing time. And I don’t think Ethier provides a significant upgrade over Gattis if you’re expecting both to play exclusively DH. In both scenarios you’d be taking WAR to the decimal point.
Shortstop (with Lowrie’s injury) and starting pitching are definitely the right places to target, though. Things will certainly get interesting in that regard if they manage to keep up this hot start for another couple weeks.
Lol I love that you think that’s an overpay and that Hamels contract has negative value. It’s like you think WAR completely encapsulates player value and likewise that the MLB FA/trade market follows it. The Hamels contract has large positive value. Why you ask? Because you can’t get a top 20 pitcher (yes, he is that that good) in his prime on a 5 year deal at $22.5m AAV. That is practically what Porcello got. On the open market Hamels would cost much more.
with that in mind I have news for you, other teams don’t want the Singleton contract and Mccullers + a fringy prospect isn’t getting it done. McCullers is the 2nd piece in a Hamels deal, it’s called acquisition cost.
What are you talking about wrt the Singleton contract? 5yr/$10M is a steal. If he’s even league average that’s massively valuable to the team.
That’s true but producing enough to be a league average first baseman is pretty hard. Brandon Moss had a 121 wRC+ and was worth 2.5 WAR. Matt Adams was at 116 and put up 2.1 WAR. The problem with Singleton is that replacement level scrub is well within his range of potential outcomes. So while his contract is a potential steal, it also has bad, albeit non-crippling, contract potential.
True, but Porcello is 26, not 31. That’s why Porcello got that money. That, and the fact that he is precisely the kind of starting pitcher that the Red Sox target.
Tiny sample, but Jake Marisnick is currently looking 5 WARish.
I don’t think they should do anything like this. There’s a very good chance that the team has simply grown up and is ready to win now. I bet PECOTA kept insisting the 2008 Rays were a mediocre team well into that season before it finally begrudgingly accepted that they weren’t.
The Astros have a lot of talented young players. And sometimes enough of them grow up at once and you get a lot better.
I agree to a point. The Offense is pretty set whenever they decide its time to start Correa’s clock. However, you can never have enough pitching. If they are truly in it to win it. Still look to acquire arms..IMO
I think it’s more likely that a giant asteroid strike the location of a Mariners-Angels game, forcing both clubs to call up their AAA team than for the Astros to do all of that.
Nothing about Singleton? He’s been destroying AAA so far and they plan to promote him to first bas at some point soon.
Hitting .254 with a .912 OPS is not “destroying” anything. He still is a massively flawed player.
They would be very very foolish to trade for Hamels or Cueto or both. If they give up much of anything in terms of prospects for Parra or Ethier it would be foolish as well. Even with this record, they are still in rebuilding mode. Trading for a chance at the playoffs and letting go of major prospects for a young team just doesn’t make sense to me. I could see if they were already an older team and they want to go for it………
As an Astros fan reading this, I think, “nah, we’re good.” Maybe they should trade for an additional SP, and one injury in the rotation could greatly throw the calculus of this all off but with Oberholtzer and Peacock coming off the DL soon, I don’t think the Astros are even that motivated to address the rotation at the moment.
Through 21 games the Astros outfielders have been worth 2+ WAR. That they’re not projected to be worth even +6 over the final 141 seems kinda silly. Altuve was a +5 WAR player last year, he’s already +1 through his first 100 PA this year. That’s he’s projected for less than 3 going forward seems low. I think the Astros internal projections are >87 at the moment.
This sounds about right. There is no real need to get to 90 projected wins this year. I would take 84 projected wins this year and cross my fingers for some good luck. Add a SP and a bench bat (get rid of Villar!) and then it takes only a little over-performance or luck to reach the playoffs.
Sorry. I’m an Astros fan as well and Peacock or Oberholtzer are not the answer to replace Wojo’s spot. We need to go get a veteran starter if we are still in this in July. Neither of those guys has proven that 1) they can stay healthy, 2) are better than an average starting pitcher.
The #3 starter spot is a hole, as is any future innings pitched by Fields. I don’t want Cueto because he’s a FA after this season, which leads me back to Hamels, who would slot in fantastical with Keuchel and McHugh. The Astros are also at a point where they need to start swinging some 3/4 to 1 type deals because the Rule 5 is a cruel bitch.
Sure 25 yr old Oberholtzer whose starts made totals the last five years coming up through the minors are 22,27,28,26,29 has never proven he can stay healthy. sure.
Sure 25 yr old Oberholtzer with 215 MLB innings pitched worth +3.5 WAR has never proven that he is better than an average starting pitcher. sure.
Between these guys Wojo, Shirley, Rodgers, Buchanan, Straily, White, Appel, McCullers, Hader, Velasquez, Devenski, I think the Astros front office is happy with their close to majors pitching options, and they’re not going to be committing money and assets to a guy like Hamels.
What’s the best regular season W/L record to miss the playoffs under the two wild-card system?
The “two wild-card system” has only been in place for three seasons. Best regular season win totals to miss the postseason (aka 3rd place WC):
2012: TBR, 90*
2013: TEX, 91
2014: SEA, 87
* LAA (89) had a better win total than AL Central pennant-winner DET (88) that year, but didn’t even get to play in the Wild Card game.
For the Astros this year, I think it comes down to how strong you think the AL West is going to be. If it turns out to be as weak as it seems in the early going, the Astros’ only real shot is to win the pennant outright because the wild cards are going to be coming from the Central and/or East.
The first half of this article is spot on and a great way of looking at projections vs current performance. But you have to know Jeff Luhnow and the front office to know nothing in the second half of the article will happen. At this point, the only thing that would warrant a trade would be if we are still in the playoff hunt near the deadline. And it won’t be for a current superstar.. but an undervaued player who won’t cost too much from the farm. The front office knows that they are building for consistent winning seasons over an extended period (remember Luhnow mixes Oakland and St Louis philosophies and then goes further with sabermetrics), not a one off run. I think they would honestly rather come up short this year while holding on to as many pieces as they can for an offseason prospect package for a truly good deal (helped by knowing certain players in the system are blocked and have very little value to the short term team but are ready to be major contributors in the majors). What one general might see as a great trade package for someone on their team that they highly value, the Astros front office will see as selling assets at their peak without truly giving up anything. The goal is to use the Athletics model to gain the consistent success of the Cardinals model.
While I’m not surprised by the performance from HOU’s pitching staff, I’m quite surprised by HOU’s offense these days. HOU is scoring like crazy during this hot streak. They just blew out almost everyone from one of the best bullpens in SD. Are they really improving their scoring ability or is it just because of their opponents’ bad defense (I noticed that SEA, OAK and SD all rank at the bottom by UZR so far)? Are there any expanations to the burst of HOU’s offense?
The problem in LF is Robbie Grossman still being “prospecty” enough to need playing time rather than simply having the role as 4th OFer and LF being the designated sub spot. When Grossman plays and either Rasmus or Marisnick is given a day off, it’s in LF as the Astros & Hinch believe that Rasmus is the superior option in CF with Marisnick off. And with Jake’s ailing leg last weekend and then playing in the NL park earlier this week, LF had even more damage done to it.
Barring injury, Grossman’s PT will diminish (if he isn’t traded while he still has a name) and Rasmus just may crank out one of his 4-5 WAR seasons at the position. With Rasmus being a Luhnow guy and on a “prove it” deal, I think his leash is longer than most before you see him benched and a move to get Preston Tucker onto the 40-man.
I think there is a better chance of the projections being worse and the Astros simply winning without making some of those trades
So 4 days later than article is published and the Astros are the favorites for their division.