Has Position-Player Pitching Reached Its Peak… or Nadir?

Less than three weeks ago, in the context of a July 11 game that featured the longest pitching appearance by a position player since 1988, the earliest mound entry by one since 1979, and the first instance of multiple position players tossing multiple innings in the same game since 1956, I noted that the count of such instances for this season had already reached 29 (not including those of Shohei Ohtani), essentially guaranteeing a smashing of the single-season record of 36 (or 32, depending upon how you feel about Christian Bethancourt, whose conversion to the mound didn’t take), set just last year. In the 21 days since then — four of which were part of the All-Star break — an additional 17 non-pitchers have taken the hill, an average of one per day. On Tuesday night, we saw the worst of them, and perhaps the nadir of the entire genre, when the Mets’ Jose Reyes was battered for six runs by the Nationals while throwing 48 pitches in a single inning of work.

Reyes, who already has little business being on a major-league roster given his ineptitude as a position player (.182/.254/.240, -1.1 WAR entering Wednesday, when of course he homered twice!), entered a game in which the Mets trailed 19-1 in the eighth inning. Working with a fastball that averaged 81.5 mph and topped out at 86.9, and a curve that averaged 63.5, he retired Ryan Zimmerman on a fly ball, and then proceeded to allow the next six batters to reach safely: Juan Soto won a 10-pitch encounter with a double to rightfield, Matt Adams followed with a two-run homer to right-center (21-1), Michael Taylor and Matt Wieters both walked, pinch-hitter Mark Reynolds followed with a three-run homer (24-1), and then Trea Turner singled. Reyes got Anthony Rendon to fly out, but then Wilmer Difo tripled (25-1). Good grief, Charlie Brown.

Reyes then hit Zimmerman with a 54-mph curveball, after which Zimmerman pretended as though he might charge the mount. Finally, Soto flied out to end the debacle.

While a position-player pitching appearance is supposed to be either a break-glass-in-emergency desperation move (generally in extra innings) or a lighthearted farce that draws attention away from an otherwise unpleasant blowout, this was unpleasantness itself. In all, Reyes’s 48 pitches were three more than Jacob deGrom threw in a single inning on June 17 before being pulled out of concern for his health. Regardless of Reyes’s current playing ability or his status as a pariah in the wake of his 2016 domestic violence suspension, manager Mickey Callaway allowing him to toil that long was irresponsible, though it was at worst the second-most irresponsible act of the night following a dead-armed Steven Matz being torched for seven first-inning runs and then later examined for complaints of forearm tightness. Chalk it up as the umpteenth data point illustrating the team’s incompetence and lack of accountability when it comes to protecting its players.

That aside, Reyes became just the fourth position player of the post-1960 expansion era to allow at least six runs in a single pitching experience:

Most Runs Allowed by a Position Player Pitching Since 1961
Player Date Tm Opp Rslt IP H R BB SO
Manny Castillo 6/26/83 SEA TOR L 7-19 2.2 8 7 3 2
Larry Biittner 7/4/77 CHC MON L 3-19 1.1 5 6 1 3
Paul Janish 7/6/09 CIN PHI L 1-22 1.0 4 6 2 1
Jose Reyes 7/31/18 NYM WSN L 4-25 1.0 5 6 2 0

I track this kind of stuff because it’s generally fun; I enjoy the absurdity of seeing a utility infielder or backup catcher throwing 70 mph meatballs as much as the next baseball fan. Even so, it’s clear that the novelty is wearing off with the increased frequency of these appearances. Here’s a graph showing the annual totals since 1998 (the year MLB last expanded), with the appearances of converts Bethancourt, Rick Ankiel, and Jason Lane as well as two-way players Ohtani and Brooks Kieschnick weeded out:

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Less than a decade ago, in 2011, there were eight position-player pitching appearances all season long, where we’ve had 15 since this year’s All-Star break — five by the Cubs, who used Victor Caratini, Tommy La Stella, and Ian Happ in an 18-5 loss to the Cardinals on July 20, and then Caratini and Anthony Rizzo three days later in a 7-1 loss to the Diamondbacks. Short stints by the starters figured in both; in the first one, which took place the day before a doubleheader, Jon Lester lasted just three innings, while in the second, Luke Farrell went just 3.1 innings. Like a man thinking several innings ahead, manager Joe Maddon preemptively took umbrage at any umbrage-takers when asked if he’d heard any complaints about his use of position players:

I have not and for those that may have said that, let me just inform you about this: People that want to say that do not understand the interconnectedness of the day… If I used one of our better guys yesterday in a game that was not really going anywhere vs. Steve Carlton reincarnated and then we get into a crucial moment today and then either [Steve] Cishek or [Pedro] Strop or [Carl] Edwards is not available because of that, that’s the wrong thing to do.

“Relax, folks. It’s a baseball game. It is not life or death.

Maddon and the Cubs have their reasons, and every other team does as well when it comes to these moves. But for as commonplace as they’ve become, and as much as some might fret about the hell-in-a-handbasket that portends, one point that should be hammered home is how completely noncompetitive nearly all of these outings are. Looking at the log of this year’s 46 position player appearances, we can divide them into a few groups by their average Leverage Index. As I’ve retrieved the list using Baseball-Reference’s Play Index, I’m using their calculations, which may differ from ours by the width of a gnat’s schnozz.

Last Resort (aLI Above 0.030)
Appearances: 3

All of these were emergency moves in extra innings — the 16th inning each time, coincidentally enough — after their teams had more or less run out of pitchers and sane people had gone to bed. The highest aLI was 2.810, in a July 24 appearance by Dodgers superutilityman Kiké Hernandez against the Phillies; he took the loss when he served up a walk-off homer to Trevor Plouffe. Next was an aLI of 1.488 from July 8, when Diamondbacks backup catcher Jeff Mathis — following Zack Greinke (4.1 IP) and eight true relievers — took the loss against the Padres after allowing a home run to Wil Myers in his lone-inning of work.

Third was an aLI of 0.860 from a July 3 appearance by Rays backup catcher Jesus Sucre against the Marlins, and it was one of the weirdest instances of the season. Starter Ryan Yarbrough — a guy who occasionally gives the Rays five innings, not one of the newfangled opener types — and six other pitchers preceded Sucre, who already had three mound appearances in his career. Called upon to close things out after his teammates scored five runs in the top of the 16th, he retired just one out of four batters before manager Kevin Cash was forced to call upon Jose Alvarado to finish the job in what had become a save situation.

Total Zeroes (aLI of 0.000)
Appearances: 33

These are the most complete lost causes. Virtually all of the position players entered when their teams were down by at least eight runs, and all but three came when the player’s team allowed at least 10 runs; in one of those cases (the Mariners’ Taylor Motter on April 9 against the Royals), it was the position player who allowed the 10th. All but three of the appearances came in the eighth or ninth innings, the exceptions being the Diamondbacks’ Daniel Descalso (fourth-inning) and Alex Avila (seventh inning) from the aforementioned July 11 game, and the aforementioned La Stella appearance, which began in the sixth. The WPA for each of these ersatz pitchers was 0.000. Nothing they did changed anything.

So You’re Saying There’s a Chance (aLI of 0.001 to 0.030)
Appearances: 10

That still leaves 10 outings unaccounted for, and frankly, there’s not a whole lot separating these from the ones above except a brief shred of a flicker of a scintilla of a chance on the ol’ WPA meter. Generally, these games weren’t quite so ridiculously lopsided when the position players entered, with deficits of six to eight runs instead of 10, such as when Rizzo (aLI 0.010) and Caratini (0.030, thanks to an inherited baserunner) pitched in the 7-1 game on July 23, or the Indians’ Brandon Guyer entered in the ninth inning of a 9-3 game against the Twins on June 16. Those guys put up zeroes, but six of the other seven allowed at least two runs to push their games into the realm of the totally unreachable. The WPAs of this group range from 0.001 to -0.002. Steady, folks.

While position-player outings have become increasingly common — they represent 0.29% of all relief appearances this year, up from the previous high of 0.21% last year and about five times what they were in 2010 — virtually all them amount to much ado about nothing from a competitive standpoint. They’re garbage-time innings that would normally go to one of the last men on the pitching staff, and while we can bemoan the transfer of that responsibility, keeping the distribution of those innings pitched strictly to pitchers is a double-edged sword. In the past few years, more teams have taken through churning through the last spot in the bullpen among players with minor league options remaining. Pitch your way into unavailability today with two innings of mop-and-bucket work instead of one and you may be headed for Scranton or Durham tomorrow, but let some utilityman take one of those innings and you’ll both get to stick around. Even in the age of 16-man pitching staffs, including those option-ready guys, this is hardly the game’s most pressing crisis or even its 20th-most pressing.

So who’s sent a position player to the mound the most often this year? Maddon’s Cubs lead the way with six appearances (Chris Gimenez on June 23 against the Reds, the 10th appearance of his MLB career, is the other), followed by his old team, the Rays, with five (Sucre twice, plus Johnny Field, Carlos Gomez and Daniel Robertson), and then the Brewers (Hernan Perez and Erik Kratz twice apiece) and Diamondbacks (Descalso twice, Avila and Mathis once apiece). Twenty-two teams have done it at least once, with the exceptions being the Angels, Braves, Orioles, Pirates, Red Sox, Rockies, Tigers, and Yankees. Some of those teams might think they’re above it — no Angels position player has taken the hill since 1993 (Rene Gonzales and Chili Davis) and no Rockies player since 2002 (Todd Zeile) — but just you wait until the next 17-1 game. Or 9-3.





Brooklyn-based Jay Jaffe is a senior writer for FanGraphs, the author of The Cooperstown Casebook (Thomas Dunne Books, 2017) and the creator of the JAWS (Jaffe WAR Score) metric for Hall of Fame analysis. He founded the Futility Infielder website (2001), was a columnist for Baseball Prospectus (2005-2012) and a contributing writer for Sports Illustrated (2012-2018). He has been a recurring guest on MLB Network and a member of the BBWAA since 2011, and a Hall of Fame voter since 2021. Follow him on BlueSky @jayjaffe.bsky.social.

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stever20Member since 2017
7 years ago

Did see Jose Reyes day after 48 pitch outing hit 2 homers. 1st guy ever to give up 2 hr one day and then hit 2 the next day.

Rallyk
7 years ago

Chris Davis had a decent couple innings back in 2012. I was thinking he might provide more value to the O’s as a RP now-a-days.

Kevbot034
7 years ago

It’s shame Bethancourt didn’t work out, but I guess you have to at least be able to hit OR pitch, not be awful at both. Didn’t the Cardinals have an OF/RP tryng to make the team a few seasons ago? More 2 way players would be fun. Rooting for McKay for the Rays a ton.

AnonMember since 2025
7 years ago
Reply to  Kevbot034

Jordan Schafer was in Cards’ camp this year but was cut loose. Signed on with the Giants but was cut loose by them in June

You also have Anthony Gose who is still pitching in the Rangers’ system.

Actually my guess for the next position player conversion is Cliff Pennington. He pitched in that playoff game a few years back and really looked good. There was a short piece here on FG pointing out that based on the Statcast data, his pitches weren’t much different than some legitimately decent pitchers in terms of velo and movement

Kevbot034
7 years ago
Reply to  Anon

He has been terrible this year though (and actually did pitch an inning, allowing a run, haha). Also 34. He’s probably done unless he converts into a knuckleballer for a few seasons lol

AnonMember since 2025
7 years ago
Reply to  Kevbot034

That was kind of the point – his career seems kind of at the end as a position player since he’s never been a good hitter and can’t provide defensive value anymore. He flashed legitimate major league caliber stuff in that playoff game a few years ago. Obviously the odds are heavily against him actually doing it, but he’s at the point of “why not give it a try?”. He does have the advantage of having basically no mileage on his arm.

stever20Member since 2017
7 years ago

I’d be curious to see what kind of impact pitching has on the position players. I mean, what happened yesterday with Reyes obviously is an outlier, but is there any sort of impact on their batting performances after pitching?

AnonMember since 2025
7 years ago

I’ve always been surprised that more position player pitching appearances don’t end up like Reyes. Take a guy throwing BP fastballs and “breaking” balls that are really more gravity balls and you would think those guys would get just obliterated.

BarrysLazyBoy
7 years ago
Reply to  Anon

Hitting is difficult. You can pound it right on the screws, and half the time it goes right at someone for an out. I could pitch in MLB right now and, by random chance, get some outs.

MoateMember since 2022
7 years ago
Reply to  Anon

Gotta remember that a lot of guys pitch in HS or even college and get the basic mechanics before reaching a legit program and being told “you’re not going to get anywhere with this arm, get better at playing left”.

Trotter76Member since 2018
7 years ago
Reply to  Moate

Apparently Jose Reyes is not one of those, his “mechanics” were of a SS throwing to first, except he was on the mound. He didn’t even stride toward the plate. Seriously, is that the best the Mets got among their position players?

On another note, Zimmerman made no effort to get out of the way of that pitch above, and should not have been awarded first.

Shattenjager
7 years ago

“I am not in danger. I am the danger.”
-Jose Reyes

aweb
7 years ago

Is there any sort of reasonable rule that could be implemented to stop teams from doing this more and more? Can you force teams to declare eligible pitchers (like a line-up card) and then require them to use all of them before resorting to a position player? You can be damn sure that all of these guys pitching in non-extras wouldn’t have been in there in a tie or close game.

I’m starting to like the idea of hockey-style day of game rosters that sit 1-4 people who are otherwise eligible to play. Aslong as you limit the number of pitchers on the daily 25 man roster (10?), carry another 3 anonymous 30-50 inning relievers for every team, and be damn sure one of them can go 3-9 innings if needed. Aside from the very best of them and teams I follow closely, I don’t really know who any of these guys are anyway.

Big comebacks are rare, but the rare events are part of what makes it fun to watch sports. I don’t want “my” manager giving up down 6 runs. Teams come back from 6 down a few times a year, and teams should not be taking active steps to prevent themselves from coming back (a position player reliever not only signals “we give” to everyone playing, but also removes a player from the game who could potentially come in handy if a comeback was happening). I don’t care if position players are typically not completely awful results-wise, it’s the optics that are the worst.

HappyFunBallMember since 2019
7 years ago
Reply to  aweb

A position player pitching generally requires both a significant deficit and otherwise exhausted bullpen. It is giving up, yes, but it’s also an effort to not put more wear and tear on a reliever who’s already thrown too much recently.

As far as expanding the bullpen goes (which is effectively what you are proposing) sure, that might reduce the fairly rare occasions upon which Jose Reyes pitches. But it will also INCREASE the number of times that bullpen depth is used gratuitously in normal baseball games. More pitching changes to slow the game down even more. Yippy! More LOOGYs, maybe a few ROOGYs. Fewer multi-inning relievers than there are now and … yes … after burning through all those bullpen arms that they can’t help but using, come that all-so-rare 16th inning managers will be forced to pitch a position player because again it’s all they’ve got left.

Matt
7 years ago
Reply to  aweb

I guess the question is, why would you want a rule?

I would agree that the 6 run deficits are probably a little close to really give up on. But when you’re down 10+ runs, then I’m all for putting a position player on the mound. Heck, I was even at the playoff game that Penington pitched in, and I can tell you, that was the most fun I had as a fan that day. Seeing a position player hit 90 on the gun is as exciting as watching a closer hit 100.

MoateMember since 2022
7 years ago
Reply to  aweb

Fundamentally disagree here. “More Relievers” will cause all your pace of play fanatics to freak out and it’s the only way you can “guarantee” a pitcher is always pitching.

Also, Maddon said it best: losing today might mean winning tomorrow and more in the future. I don’t want the Cubs forcing Strop to sit out there and burn 60+ pitches even though he’s completely out of gas because he’s the only declared pitcher left in the rotation. Now he hits the DL because he pushed through a tear and is out for 2 months. It’s an EXTREME injury risk to force players who can’t/are unable to pitch to stay out there.

It might not be fun to go to a game that’s over in the 5th inning, but that can happen even if a team uses real pitchers. There’s no way to fix this “problem” and watching the rare 3rd baseman strike out an opposing batter is it’s own kind of fun IMHO.

aweb
7 years ago
Reply to  Moate

It’s a risk, but EXTREME? There have been position players hurt themselves pitching too, and that’s no better. A professional pitcher should be able to go at 85-90% all damn day without long term damage, and still be somewhat effective due to actually knowing how to pitch. I don’t like pitchers hitting, and I don’t like hitters pitching. That’s just my opinion, of course.

Occasional fun seems great, but what happens when a position player pitching, with the ability to throw 85-90mph (a lot of them), seriously beans someone (in the head, broken hand, rib, etc.)? It happens with professional pitchers trying to avoid it, so it will almost certainly happen with someone just screwing around one day. And the way things are going, it will be one day soon. Is that an EXTREME risk too?

signedepsteinsmother
7 years ago
Reply to  aweb

but what happens when a position player pitching, with the ability to throw 85-90mph (a lot of them), seriously beans someone (in the head, broken hand, rib, etc.)

This seems like a good point.

JoserMember since 2021
7 years ago
Reply to  aweb

What’s the huge problem that requires a rule change? Right now we’re on pace for the most pitching appearances by non-pitchers ever and that pace is… 60? (Probably less, since with expanded rosters in September the pace will drop a lot). So that’s.. maybe twice per team per season. OMG, what a travesty.

Yes, 60 across the league is a lot compared to what it once was. But for fans of any particular team, they’re only going to see it happen at most a couple of times (maybe 3, if one of the opposing teams happens to do it against their team). And that’s devoted fans, who watch virtually every day. For everybody else, it’s still a fun-ish oddity you rarely ever see except on Sportscenter.

PoliteNateMember since 2017
7 years ago

At some point some team getting blown out like this is going to take it one step further and do the logical thing and just pull the players off the field and forfeit the game. And there will be riots.

mikejuntMember
7 years ago
Reply to  PoliteNate

The players would riot then as the lack of played innings and PAs would affect their earning potential.

TKDCMember since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  PoliteNate

There is probably a rule against that. I know there is in the NBA. The next logical step would be instituting a slaughter rule. I could see that happening but I’m totally against it. My favorite baseball memories are the ridiculous comebacks. Leverage, Shmeverage, there’s always a chance!

HappyFunBallMember since 2019
7 years ago
Reply to  PoliteNate

Pitching a position player is effectively forfeiting the game.

Any manager who ordered his team off the field for any reason other than player safety (e.g. the riot was already going on) would be at a minimum suspended and fined, and quite possibly fired the very next day.

ThomServo
7 years ago
Reply to  HappyFunBall

This is merely efficient allocation of competitive effort- you can’t go ‘all out’ every second of every game. Minimizing injury exposure and star wear-and-tear during the game times where a win is least likely is simply efficient.

The ‘logical extreme’ of this strategy is not a slaughter rule, or forfeit. Instead, it’s the equilibrium that this article explores, asking whether this usage might still increase or has now peaked. A team with a near-0 chance of winning will want to protect four types of players: (1) anyone nursing an injury; (2) SPs; (3) star position players; and (4) relievers. With a 7 man bullpen and 4-5 bench players, a manager has a number of options.

Notably, however, most teams with a ‘near-0’ chance of winning have already used several pitchers, often as many as 4. That means that, if that team plays again tomorrow, they are already looking at having only 3 or so fresh relievers for the next day. So such a club is looking at three poor options for any further pitching changes (1) use one of the last couple relievers; (2) use a SP; (3) use a bench position player. The third choice often helps the club take the most competitive approach towards it’s season.

Comebacks are still possible with position players pitching- the odds are just even more extreme, and therefore the rare incident of such comebacks will be interesting.

HappyFunBallMember since 2019
7 years ago
Reply to  ThomServo

That’s … confusing. Did you mean it in response to a different post?

frangipardMember since 2026
7 years ago

The novelty may be wearing off, but I don’t see any sign it will become less common. If anything, it seems likely to keep increasing. Probably the best we can hope for is to see teams get more intentional about developing the 24th and 25th men on their bench as two-way players, capable of giving non embarrassing performances on both sides.

BarrysLazyBoy
7 years ago

I absolutely love to see position players hitting. This is an exciting development.

CheeseballMember since 2016
7 years ago

The Zimmerman/Reyes gif is a masterpiece. Leaning in – bum-wiggle – umpire considering whether to award him the base – the pantomime of charging the mound – the grinning – the toss.

My god, it’s full of stars.

stever20Member since 2017
7 years ago
Reply to  Cheeseball

The Keith Hernandez call on Mets TV was funny as heck as well. Bet Reyes wishes Zimmerman had charged the mound so both of them could get ejected.

Doug LampertMember since 2016
7 years ago

IMAO, this is a consequence of the 10-day DL and the 10-day limit on recalling someone from the minors (baring using that very short DL on someone, at which point you can freely replace the “injured” player with anyone on the 40-man roster).

Effectively MLB teams have 15 man bullpens, but only have 7-8 of those guys on the active roster at a time. So they use starters for 5 innings (routinely), and very few relievers go more than 1 inning.

You’ve got enough relievers and flexibility to get away with AVERAGING over 8.5 pitchers being used in each game (yep, between the two teams, that’s what’s happening this year), but only if nothing goes wrong. The moment anything goes wrong, the fact that half of those pitchers aren’t actually on the active roster and you have no long-man means that you’re instantly short on pitchers.

They’re managing like it’s eternal September, but in fact they have a 25 man roster. Those extra 15 players are only available tomorrow, never today. Without the short DL and recall, they’d need to have more innings eaters on the staff. At least one long man, and occasionally use other relievers for 5+ outs without it being considered extraordinary.

The willingness to have relievers go 1 inning every 2 days (at most) while starters rarely go more than 5 every 5 days is WHY we’re heading for more strikeouts than hits, why games take longer than ever, and why so many teams are running out of relievers with more on staff then ever before.

johansantana17Member since 2026
7 years ago

Hernan Perez narrowly escaped becoming the fifth position player-pitcher to give up 6 ER in an inning last night in the 21-5 loss to the Dodgers.

Famous Mortimer
7 years ago

There was a position player who hit 90 as well as having a decent knuckler, a few weeks ago. Who was that?

sgp2204
7 years ago

Not even a mention of Matt Davidson? He’s the only position player I’ve seen this year that actually looks like he could be a capable big league pitcher.