How Much Power Does Andrew Toles Have?

Part of this job is writing about players who’ve put together interesting performances in small sample sizes. Really, at this point of the season, that describes basically every player. With Andrew Toles, though, it’s even harder: his whole career is a small sample size. And now, depending on the severity of his current knee injury, we might be forced to continue trying to evaluate him as a player based on very little evidence.

In that brief career, however, Toles has been good. Among active players who both (a) have recorded 200-plus plate appearances (Toles has 214) and (b) have yet to turn 25 (which he does in two weeks), Toles ranks 40th out of 99 by Wins Above Replacement — and he’s top 30 in isolated power.

That latter distinction is interesting. Projections, perhaps seeing powerless seasons in the minor leagues and dealing with a missed year in some form or another, don’t see that kind of power. I had to ask the player why they might be missing the point.

Before a game with the Giants this month, I wondered if something had changed for the soft-spoken son of former NFL linebacker Alvin Toles. The Dodger was succinct: “Mechanics.” Thanks to his agent, former Red Sox outfielder Reggie Jefferson, Toles has raised his hands during his load. This, at a time when players everywhere are dropping their hands for more power.

“I’m real rotational,” Toles said. “So I would hit the ball hard and it would just be topspin or slicing, and so now I’m trying get more direct to the ball, get a little bit more leverage, so I can drive it out of the park.” Toles wants to be “more direct to the ball instead of around it.” An adjustment to the hands, in particular, was key: “For me, I was dropping my hands too far. I needed to use more legs better and keep my hands up.”

Here’s Toles from the side as a prospect in the Rays organization in 2013 (courtesy video by Chris Blessing):

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And here he is now, after working with Turner Ward on the Dodgers’ staff, and listening to his agent.

You might notice that he starts high and drops low in both videos (and used to start with his hands even higher in high school). If he starts low, it sounds like he goes back up before going down. “I drop low and kick high, so when I put my foot down it’s too long for me to come all the way down and then come all the way back up and all the way around. I’m pretty quick so I can get away with it and hit ground balls, but the higher you go, the more they exploit that.”

Still, other than the kick being more aggressive, it’s hard to see much of a difference. So what about that lost year or two, when he was somewhat mediocre in 2014, and then out of baseball completely the next year? “Personal issues. Had to straighten that out,” Toles said in almost a whisper. “Went back home, got it together. I needed help that was more important than playing baseball.”

The Rays were helpful, Toles pointed out. “They tried. It wasn’t enough aid or whatever. They didn’t know what was going on,” he said. “We figured that out with the right doctor.”

The league has noticed Toles, and that might be one of the best ways to tell he has power they believe in. He’s seeing fewer fastballs this year and way more curves. Only nine players have seen a bigger decline in fastball percentage. When I asked him if they changed the book to high fastballs and tons of curves, he laughed. “Yup, exactly what it is.”

Biggest Fastball Percentage Declines
Player 16 FB% 17 FB% Difference
Alex Bregman 58% 48% 10%
Salvador Perez 51% 41% 10%
Mitch Haniger 60% 51% 10%
Maikel Franco 54% 45% 10%
Justin Smoak 53% 44% 9%
Joe Panik 60% 51% 9%
Derek Norris 63% 54% 9%
Jason Heyward 65% 56% 9%
Carlos Beltran 54% 45% 8%
Andrew Toles 55% 47% 8%
Matt Holliday 62% 54% 8%
Odubel Herrera 61% 53% 8%
Miguel Sano 50% 43% 7%
Kendrys Morales 48% 41% 7%
Kevin Pillar 55% 48% 7%
SOURCE: Baseball Info Solutions
Minimum 200 plate appearances in 2016, 90 in 2017.

“They’re not throwing me fastballs any more,” he smiled. “They’re waiting to see if I can adjust to the offspeed.” Given that he’s making more contact, and hitting for the same power, maybe it’s time to believe like the league does. Sure, it’s only 200 plate appearances, but sometimes circumstances lead to this sort of thing.





With a phone full of pictures of pitchers' fingers, strange beers, and his two toddler sons, Eno Sarris can be found at the ballpark or a brewery most days. Read him here, writing about the A's or Giants at The Athletic, or about beer at October. Follow him on Twitter @enosarris if you can handle the sandwiches and inanity.

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RobertMember since 2017
8 years ago

Enjoyed the article Eno. I’ve been super hyped this year on Toles. Really bummed he may be seriously injured. Hopefully the MRI comes back clean.

mikejuntMember
8 years ago
Reply to  Robert

He walked off the field without a significant limp on his own.

I think the worst case options are already clear. Acl injuries can’t walk like that.

3rdgenbruinMember since 2016
8 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

I really disagree with this. That might be the case sometimes, but certainly not all the time. I tore mine as an adult, walked off the field and drove myself to the emergency room.

MLBtoPDX#2024
8 years ago
Reply to  3rdgenbruin

Did ya think that maybe you tore it by walking and than driving all the way to an ER? Toles is also a PRO with way stronger muscles than an average adult like yourself. The contact and tweak didn’t look full on, as I’m sure the MRI will reveal no damage. Bet he will be day to day and come back this weekend. With all that said, it’s Time for the Codgers to ship Toles to Milwaukee for Braun.

Crushinator
8 years ago
Reply to  3rdgenbruin

Yeah, I tore mine playing rec league baseball. I walked off the field, played the next week, went to the doc afterward and they told me I tore it. I played the rest of the season then got it fixed which was good because I still hit well but I was running at like 60%. I couldn’t jump or generally move athletically, which for a once a week rec league is ok and hide-able, but not a pro ball player. And obviously I am no physician, but I have never heard of an ACL strain or injury that wasn’t a straight up tear.

mikejuntMember
8 years ago
Reply to  3rdgenbruin

I didn’t know that; I always associated ACL tears with the kind of knee-crumpling, needing-assistance Adam Eaton play, but I suppose they aren’t always like that.

Especially considering he tore his ACL and is out for the year.

Doorknob11
8 years ago
Reply to  mikejunt

If I’m not mistaken Eaton tore his ACL along with multiple others. When you just tear your ACL you still have other ligaments to compensate. If you keep going you’re most likely going to end up tearing them as well but you can certainly walk on them.

Uncle RicoMember since 2017
8 years ago
Reply to  Doorknob11

For whom the bell toles…it toles for knee