Twins Fire Terry Ryan
You don’t often see GMs fired two weeks before the trade deadline, as this is a pretty busy time of year to be shaking up a front office. You don’t often see the Twins fire anyone, as organizational continuity has been a hallmark of their club, and why they’ve only had five GMs in their franchise history. But today, the Twins bucked both trends, relieving Terry Ryan of his duties, and replacing him on an interim basis with assistant GM Rob Antony.
Minnesota Twins announce GM Terry Ryan has been relieved of his duties. Assistant GM Rob Antony as Interim GM. pic.twitter.com/LF2iYotKZ9
— Minnesota Twins (@Twins) July 18, 2016
Ryan is well respected within the game, but this shows that even his leash was only so long; a GM with a lesser reputation would have likely been removed from the post a while ago, given the number of missteps the front office has made of late. The team’s investments in Ervin Santana and Ricky Nolasco haven’t paid off, and after finding a breakthrough with Phil Hughes, an early extension has turned him into a liability as well, after he went back to being Phil Hughes. Combine that with the Joe Mauer contract going south — which, to be fair, mostly had to do with Mauer’s concussion issues forcing a move off catcher, which couldn’t have really been predicted — and a team with a mid-level payroll was not getting much of a return on their significant financial investments.
That puts a lot of pressure on the team to develop a host of young stars, but Byron Buxton hasn’t yet lived up to the hype, Miguel Sano is too one dimensional to carry a team by himself, and young arms like Kyle Gibson have failed to turn into high-quality starters. With too many things going wrong, the Twins find themselves with the worst record in the American League, and not enough hope for the current roster that things are going to turn around any time soon. And so they decided to make a change.
That said, this should be a fairly attractive job for a younger candidate looking to make their mark in the game. Buxton isn’t a complete bust just yet, and with Sano around, there are a couple of potential cornerstone pieces in place, if the new regime can figure out how to maximize their abilities. The team also isn’t as bad as their record makes them look — their BaseRuns record is 40-51, still not great, but less disastrous — and could be in line for some improvement even without a lot of tinkering. Toss in a division that doesn’t have a traditional behemoth, and the Twins path back to contention could be shorter than some of the other jobs that have opened up lately.
Dave is the Managing Editor of FanGraphs.
Knowing the Twins, I can only assume they will bring Bill Smith back or use the next 3 months to give Tom Kelly crash courses
“Young guy”
This will be interesting to watch. It seems like they have had the same issues for years, specifically with pitching. An overhaul of their aproach to player development seems to have been needed or a while, and I hope the new GM will be given the freedom to do things the way he sees fit. Also, I wish the current crop of prospects (Sano, Buxton, etc) the best of luck, and I agree that this job will be a sought after one.
I just read an article by Doug DeMuro this morning about how cautious Honda is, and I kept thinking about the Twins. How weird is it that the next thing I read is Ryan getting fired during Szym’s chat. I had an Accord that I loved and kept for 12 years and replace a few years ago. I’m in the market again, but haven’t considered anything by them. Great cars, but they feel stale, and I feel the company as a whole needs to be shaken up and energized… kinda like the Twins.
Hondas are great because they’re safe and low-maintenance. I’d hate to have my favorite sports franchise run with those goals in mind.
agree 100%
Dave, or anyone……does the timing indicate a disagreement with the ownership on the trade deadline, or is that just a coincidence?
Guess not:
According to Darren Wolfson:
Darren Wolfson? @DWolfsonKSTP
Distracted by this this week. But told any thought of philosophical differences approaching Aug. 1 handling = wrong.
The org. said that Ryan was told he wasn’t returning a month ago and he was allowed to craft his own way to leave. Apparently he felt the right moment was two weeks before the trade deadline.
only if andy macphail was available.
or calvin griffith was still alive.
Terry Ryan deserves a real measure of respect for his work building the division champion Twins teams of ~2000 – 2010.
Sadly, though, this move is overdue by at least 4 years. Here’s hoping the new GM comes from outside the organization and quickly changes the front office approach to bring it from it’s present archaic approach to current industry standards.
This is the best transactional news the Twins have had in years. Onward!
Seen at next year’s draft:
#RyanDied4OurSins
While Ryan made his share of mistakes, I wonder if he has been more unlucky than bad.
The Nolasco signing was bad from the start, but that deal would have blown up in Ryan’s face even if Nolasco signed up for, say, 2/12M, which would have been an outright bargain in the 2013-14 offseason for a back of the rotation starter. Ryan was responsible for making Nolasco’s contract immovable, but no one expected things to be THIS bad or that he’ll entirely fail to stay healthy. Same goes for the Ervin Santana signing, which was actually a completely fine deal, then Santana went and got himself suspended.
The real problem has been the farm system. The past few years Twins fans actually had something to be excited about, until Sano and Buxton and other top prospects failed to turn it into major league production. There seems to be something wrong with the Twins hitter development (as there certainly was with pitchers until recent years), and they’re not going to contend until they can fix that. But I’m not sure how much a GM can do when all your consensus top prospects fail to pan out; I don’t think any of else could have expected that.
That leaves the Kurt Suzuki and Phil Hughes extensions as the only mines that should have been easily dodged. Those two deals are indefensible, but should not have been enough to sink a GM. He would not have survived even if he was able to dodge the visible bullets.
The final straw was that the Twins were actually halfway decent last year with a bunch of players playing in over their heads. That of course just doubles the disappointment factor when they underperform this year.
Not trading Perkins….not trading Suzuki ever…signing Ricky and Phil and Ervin, three number 4s? Go sign a big time pitcher. The way the young players have been jerked up and down. The constant players not put on the DL and spending 10+ days hurt. Losing Arcia because they had no other plan. The Park signing, and putting Sano in the OF? Now Polanco is in the same position as Arcia. Last year they carried a rule V pick all year, refused to use him, then cut him at the beginning of the year this year…..They needed bullpen help last year (remember Stauffer) and waited too long to fix it, then went half in by getting only Jepsen. They said the bullpen was priority 1 this year, how’d they do coming into the year with that?
I don’t think this is about bad luck only…..
I didn’t say it was just bad luck. I’m just not convinced that his decisions are in general all that different from the average GM.
You may have liked to get some return from trading Glen Perkins and Kurt Suzuki, but the reality is that Glen Perkins would have fetched little more than one decent prospect, and since 2014 the contract simply didn’t have very much excess value. Suzuki would have fetched very little even when they were selling high.
Judging by the recent big time pitcher contracts, if the Twins had signed a big time pitcher, Ryan would simply have been fired sooner. The Twins were never a bona fide contender during his stint this round in Minnesota; you would literally have to be insane to sign 30 year-old Max Scherzer for 200M when you’re coming off a 70-win season, and signing pitchers with contracts that could be moved isn’t a bad idea for fringy teams.
All the others I’m not sure 20 of the other 29 GMs in the game would not have done. Almost all of them apply to Neil Huntington, who hasn’t done great this year but nobody with a shred of reason is calling for him to get fired. Everybody was surprised that Park signed for so little; most expected him to go for a lot more. It was hailed as a solid deal (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/instagraphs/twins-sign-byung-ho-park-for-very-little/) and you just can’t blame the process for drawing the one short straw when the other 3 Korean hitters have all done very well.
Really, even with all the mistakes, the narrative would have been very different if Buxton was even hitting .270/.330/420. And like I said, even if he was able to avoid the mistakes that he should have been able to, enough went wrong that the results simply wouldn’t have been much different for the franchise.