Yankees Finally Get Dustin Ackley

The Yankees had been chasing Dustin Ackley for a while. I don’t know exactly how long the pursuit had gone on, but I remember rumors around the 2013 winter meetings, and they’ve popped up from time to time since. Somewhere, in the back of his mind, Brian Cashman maintained his interest in Ackley, and now he’s finally gotten Jack Zduriencik to crack, with Ackley going to the Yankees in exchange for Ramon Flores and Jose Ramirez.

For an idea of how Ackley’s season has gone, he started 20 games in May, and he’s started a combined 19 games in June and July. He’s sitting on a dreadful…pretty much everything, so his playing time has dwindled, and so his availability has increased. With that said, just last season, Ackley was about a league-average hitter, and now he’s about to become a left-handed hitter in Yankee Stadium. Plus there’s, you know, everything else.

The background, I mean. The pedigree. There’s what Ackley has been, and there’s what Ackley was supposed to be, and while he’s 27 years old now, there’s still the feeling that his bat could be unleashed. Just the other day, I was thinking about a hypothetical reader poll, in which I ask the audience what it thinks Ackley would’ve developed into had he been drafted by, say, the Cardinals. Not that we have any way of knowing the truth, but I thought it could be fun to look at the results anyway, and the underlying suggestion is that perhaps Ackley wasn’t handled right. Maybe there are things that could be improved, that might only improve with another organization. An organization like the Yankees.

What’s tougher to see is exactly how Ackley fits. In the past, he was a second baseman, and he was pretty good at it. More recently, he’s been an outfielder, but he doesn’t have the arm strength for right. Maybe Ackley replaces Stephen Drew, but that doesn’t seem like a foregone conclusion. It’s also possible Ackley will just be flipped somewhere else, but given the history of the Yankees’ pursuit here, it seems more like they’ll find him a spot. If he ends up at second base, he could be adequate, and he’s under control another two years. If he roves around and hangs out on the bench, that’s not a real interesting player, but someone had to take this chance, just to see if different instruction might cause it all to click. Prospect sheen lasts a while, and it often lasts beyond the first organization.

Given how little they’ve used him of late, the Mariners won’t miss Ackley too much, and maybe there’s psychological value in just turning the page. Every time he walked up with a sub-.220 average just served as a reminder of busted promise. The return: Ramirez is a 25-year-old reliever, and Flores is a 23-year-old outfielder. Before the year, Kiley had Flores at No. 19 in the Yankees’ system, and Ramirez at No. 23. Some excerpts:

Flores is one of those players that reached his upside quickly, but doesn’t have much more to offer than as a solid part-time player. He has solid bat speed, great plate discipline and feel to hit with good plate coverage, but average at best power that limits the damage he can do.

And:

Ramirez is one of the most exciting players on this list; in the linked video, he hit 100 mph with a 70 changeup and an inconsistent slider that flashes average to slightly above. His problem has been like Heathcott; he’s can’t stay on the field, but Ramirez was big league ready at least a year ago. None of Ramirez’s injuries have been to his arm, but to his oblique, caused by a lack of body fat and his quick-twitch movements on the mound.

Flores has had a solid all-around season in Triple-A, and maybe he’s ready to be a role player. Hell, maybe he’s ready to be just as good as recent versions of Dustin Ackley. Ramirez has had a decent season in Triple-A, working in 32 games, but he’s struggled to throw consistent strikes, which applies to most relief prospects who aren’t elite-level relief prospects. A few times, Ramirez has popped up in the majors, throwing in the mid- to high-90s with a mid-80s changeup. He’s a small amount of improvement away from being a reliable relief arm, which the Mariners have sorely needed all season.

This is the way the Dustin Ackley Era ends. Overshadowed by other moves, exchanged for an outfield reserve and a reliever with insufficient present control. Granted, if Ackley keeps playing like he’s played, the Mariners will be happy to have their guys. And the Yankees will be happy to finally have their shot at solving what’s been an unsolvable problem. I hear there could be a hefty reward.





Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.

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Jerry
9 years ago

Yankee fans won’t like this one, as no big names involved, but this is a solid trade. They sent two prospects they didn’t need for a player who still has potential. Reminds me a little of the Scott Brosius trade in 1998. Not to say Ackley will be Brosius, he could bomb, but for what they gave up, why not?

Also glad to see the Yankees did not overreact to Pineda’s injury or the Blue Jays’ activity (as many of their fans are doing), keeping the farm in tact thus far.

Cool Lester Smooth
9 years ago
Reply to  Jerry

Yeah, I don’t get why anyone could strongly object to this trade. They’re giving up their 4th best AAA OF and their 5th best AAA RP to get a former top talent away from an org that hasn’t gotten a 100 wRC+ from a Top 100 hitting prospect since Ichiro.

tz
9 years ago

I like the Brosius comp. And if you’re not going to give Refsnyder a clear shot at the 2B job, why not Ackley? Even the 2015 Ackley has to be a better option than the zombie-filled revolving door the Yanks have used there (or worse, Stephen Drew).

BMac
9 years ago

I just don’t get why they want him. It looks like the OF they gave up, Flores, has a real chance to be good.

I mean, the Mariners are not known for developing prospects all that much, but the Rays have always been pretty good.

What the Ackley trade has done is waste some of the pre-deadline time of the Yankees GM, time that might have been spent shoring up the rotation. Or do you thnk this is a formidable healthy rotation: Tanaka, Pineda, Eovaldi, Sabathia, Nova? I notice as I am writing this that one of them is already on the DL (Pineda).

Even Yankee fans must admit it seems like a bit of a joke that other teams get Cueto, Hamels, Price, Tulo, and you get… Ackley?

Jerry
9 years ago
Reply to  BMac

Actually, most Yankee fans hate this trade, as they hate most trades Cashman makes. But this is a good trade. I’m not sure why you are so high on Flores–he projects as a 4th outfielder at best. The Yankees gave up basically nothing, 2 players where they were already very deep, and got a guy who yes, could improve, or is worth more than those two prospects even if he returns to pre-2014 levels, when he was an average to above-average player. There’s no downside to this trade, simply put.

n0exit
9 years ago
Reply to  BMac

Yea Flores is a nice lefty 4th OF or starter on a second division team. But the yabkees already have quite a few OF that were ahead of him. Ramirez hasn’t been good for the yanks either.

Cool Lester Smooth
9 years ago
Reply to  BMac

Flores has just as much a chance to be a good MLB player as Abe Almonte did to be a second division regular.

Also…I hope you don’t actually think that the Ackley deal had any effect on the Yanks’ pursuit of Cueto, Hamels or Price.

That’s just a silly opinion to have.

tony manzi
9 years ago
Reply to  BMac

How would some combination of Tanaka, Eovaldi, Nova, Severino, Moreno, Warren sound?

Also, Ackley has played very well in the Bronx (approx. 900 OPS in 17 games)

Henry
9 years ago

Because they are going to trade Refsnyder and frankly Ackley is a marginal player. Makes sense if you want to get a quality relief pitcher like Kimbrel and have to give up Ref. For me Ref is one of our best prospects and hand and foot a better hitter than Ackley.

Cool Lester Smooth
9 years ago
Reply to  Henry

So you’re saying it’s because some people are silly and think that this has any effect on the Yanks’ plans for Ref?

Anyway, Ref isn’t all that close to Ackley as an offensive or defensive talent.

Yanks23242
9 years ago
Reply to  Henry

If Ref could field 2B he’d be a top prospect, but he can’t, so he’s not. Until he can field second or dramatically improve his bat he’s nothing more than a 4th or 5th OF’er.