Jeff McNeil and Rewarding Boldness
This has been an exciting year for rookie performances. Juan Soto has looked like the best teenage hitter in history, Ronald Acuna has helped lead the Braves to a (surprising) lead in the NL East, and Shohei Ohtani has short-circuited our understanding of player value with his two-way achievements. Rookies have always been a key component to baseball’s excitement, and this year’s crop is no exception.
Now, quick: what player leads rookies in second-half WAR? If you guessed Acuna, congrats! Acuna has caught fire, putting up a 190 wRC+ and 3.4 WAR since the break — second-best in baseball behind Matt Chapman’s 3.7 mark during that timeframe.
Let’s continue, though. Who’s second amongst rookies since the break? Soto? Sorry, no. Ohtani? Nope, not even after accounting for his contributions on all sides of the ball. It’s not the workman-like Brian Anderson, nor is it defensive wizard Harrison Bader. No, second among rookies in WAR during the second half is New York Mets second baseman Jeff McNeil. For some, perhaps that makes sense. For many, though, the likely response is, “Who?”
That’s understandable. Unless you’ve watched a Mets game since July 24th — and let’s be honest, why would you if you lived outside the New York MSA? — you’ve probably not heard of McNeil. Even if you were a prospect hound, McNeil could have evaded your eye. He didn’t appear on prospect lists for the Mets here at FanGraphs, at Minor League Ball, or Baseball Prospectus. At FanGraphs, only the enigmatic Carson Cistulli mentioned McNeil in an early July edition of the Fringe Five.*
*Since this article came out, it has come to my attention that several articles focused on or mentioning Jeff McNeil have been written by several authors. Among them include the Baseball Prospectus and Baseball Prospectus Mets prospect writers Jarrett Seidler (May 2018), Jeff Paternostro, and Alex Rosen (May 2018). Jeff’s coverage of McNeil in particular goes back as far as McNeil’s second season in 2014. This oversight was completely accidental on my part and not meant to disregard or disparage their work or the work of anyone else who has written about McNeil in the past
For a Mets fanbase that has observed the front office regularly block prospects in favor of flawed veterans — at least they finally freed outfielder Brandon Nimmo — it has to be mildly gratifying to see a young player getting reps in the waning days of the season. McNeil is not only second in WAR amongst rookies in the second half, he is 13th among all hitters by the measure.
Given McNeil’s lack of obvious tools, there’s still reason to doubt that he can put together a substantive major-league career, let alone sustain the pace he’s established since July. Despite these concerns, however, it’s encouraging that the Mets have continued to give McNeil — and Amed Rosario and Nimmo — sufficient playing time to earn a place on the big-league club.
McNeil has never resided atop prospect lists. Drafted in the 13th round out of Long Beach State, whatever positive traits McNeil possessed as an amateur were accompanied by negative ones. He had good bat control… but no power. His fielding actions were smooth… but not flashy and were backed by a fringe arm. He seemed destined for a utility bench role in the majors… if he could get there.
In the minors, McNeil made the most of his opportunities by playing to his strengths. He showed good bat control, hitting over .300 in every stop at which he received at least 100 PAs. He showed plate discipline and control, striking out well below league average and putting up a 0.7 BB/K ratio over his entire minor-league career. For a player capable of handling — if not excelling at — second base, third base, and the outfield, the offensive skills were promising.
Then a funny thing happened in 2017. To that point, McNeil had posted isolated-power marks in .070 range, nor did there seem to be much room for more. In 2017, though, that ISO figure jumped to around .130. Then, in 2018, before his callup, his ISO was around .250 and he had hit 19 home runs — 10 more than his 2013-17 seasons combined.
The underlying numbers backed up this assessment. When he entered professional baseball, McNeil put the ball on the ground anywhere between 45% and 50% of the time. In 2017-18, that number has been closer to the 35-40% range. Pairing his bat control with a change in swing plane would allow McNeil to tap into more of his power, without necessarily striking out at a prohibitive rate.
Since arriving in Queens, McNeil has followed many of the tenets that brought him to the majors. The power isn’t as prodigious as in Double-A or Triple-A; his .154 ISO is still serviceable, though. He isn’t striking out (8.7%) and still has a walk-per-strikeout rate close to his minor-league rate (0.67 versus 0.70). His swinging-strike rate of 7.8% suggests that bat control has followed him to the majors, as does his .367 BABIP. The offensive package seems to be exactly what we would expect him to need for major-league survival: his minor-league profile with a little more power. As an added bonus, he has been a positive on both the basepaths (2.9 runs’ worth) and in the field (2.2 per 150 UZR at second base).
McNeil’s profile definitely comes with questions. His exit velocity of 85.6 mph places him 314th among the 375 hitters to record 100 batted-ball events. His barrels per PA of 2.4% ranks 306th within that same sample of players. This seems to suggest that an average ISO of .150 might be a stretch, even with a launch angle of 13.6 degrees. Further, his sprint speed of 27.6 ft/s combined with the lack of exit velocity suggests that the aforementioned BABIP may be unsustainable. Additionally, with a sprint speed of 27.6, the 2.9 baserunning runs may be a stretch to maintain — even if sprint speed isn’t everything.
Even though McNeil seems likely to experience some sort of natural regression in performance, he still is definitely something for Mets fans to enjoy in the present. He may even be able to maintain his performance, and it’s possible that this exit velocity is low by his previous standards. But there’s one question that McNeil’s performance, promotion, and continued playing time should cause Mets fans to ask: “Why is McNeil here and Peter Alonso isn’t?”
Both players tore up the Eastern and Pacific Coast Leagues this year, so what separates them? Well, of course, Alonso is not only one of the Mets’ best prospects, but one of the best in baseball. McNeil, as we mentioned earlier, has never sniffed the top of any prospect lists. Is it possible that the Mets promoted McNeil because they did not see him as a future cornerstone and therefore are less concerned about his service time? It’s certainly possible. And as Baseball Prospectus’s Craig Goldstein eloquently wrote last week, while we understand the financial concerns that drive service-time questions, the practice can and should still drive fans up a wall.
The Mets’ front office has seemingly started to allow the next generation of Mets players to arrive. This year, we’ve seen significant playing time given to Rosario and Nimmo, while Dominic Smith has finally has been recalled after yoyo-ing from New York to Vegas. Yet, in certain cases, the team is still hesitating to hold off starting the clock on players they deem as future pieces while lesser lights are allowed their chance. Jeff McNeil had provided sufficient proof at the minor-league level, and his major-league performance has rewarded the team with a glimpse of what he could potentially be going forward. Maybe it’s too much to hope, but perhaps McNeil’s second-half numbers will show the Mets that there are advantages to giving all players — whether they are likely to be franchise cornerstones or replacement players — the opportunity to excel at the major-league level once they’ve proved all they can in the minors.
Stephen Loftus is a Visiting Assistant Professor in Mathematical Sciences at Sweet Briar College in Virginia. In his spare time he usually can be found playing the pipe organ or working on his rambling sabermetric thoughts.
Alonso is not on the 40 man and doesn’t need to be this winter. Next year he’ll be a bat only 24 year old 1b. The Mets do a lot of dumb things and are cheap but I don’t think his service clock is all that important. I actually think they made the right call in making sure Jay Bruce got some reps at 1b. Next year he could be some sort of weird utility 1b, RF and inter league DH. I do wish Dom Smith would play everyday but that seems like too much to ask for some reason.
Yes, the Mets desperately need to keep those 40 man roster spots open for Chris Flexen, Rafael Montero, Tyler Bashlor and Jack Reinheimer. Can’t risk losing those stalwarts. And they should send Jay Bruce to the moon. He’s a sunk cost in terms of dollars, but that’s no reason for him to impede the development of a rebuilding teams’ prospects.
Jay Bruce should not be taking playing time away from Peter Alonso, but to consider Bruce’s contract a sunk cost is premature. He was good enough last year to be a meaningful contributor on a playoff team and has dealt with injuries this season.
It’s not just the flotsam on the roster. Yo has to be put back on the 40 man, DW may/may not retire, and there are a few others as well who, once the season ends, come off the DL on the 40 man. Plus there are some Rule 5 and other situations which need to be accommodated. (Remember Jenry Mejia? He’s baaaccccckkkk!).
By all means, drop Flexen, Montero, Bashor, etc. Bruce, God knows.
For the money we sunk in him, he deserves a shot. However, it’s not a static picture, and not as simple as letting all the failed experiments go.
Other writers have done a good job at describing this.
Bruce would have so many HR on the moon, it would go down as another horrible Mets trade.
I get your sentiment, but these are some odd players to highlight. Montero is on the 60 day DL, so he doesn’t currently count against the 40. Flexen, sadly, is one of their better prospects and just about the only SP depth they have. Even Bashlor deserves more than a dozen game sample size before dismissing the potential that he could help this horrendous bullpen moving forward.
Just sayin… These guys will never be stars, but it seems odd to single them out of a lineup that features Jose Reyes, Jose Lobaton, Austin Jackson, etc.
bam! this conversation should’ve started and ended with Reyes.
All of the guys I mentioned could easily be passed through waivers and outright’d off the 40 man roster. Montero is on the 60 day DL but will need to be added back on in the offseason (or removed altogether). Reyes, Lobaton and Jackson are FA’s at the end of the season and therefore off the roster by the time the 60 day & rule 5 eligible guys are added, and I think we’re all assuming (praying) none of that troika gets re-signed. They Mets are at 39 players on the 40 man right now so they wouldn’t need to make an immediate move to call up Alonso. So to me, the argument that it’s better not to call up Alonso for 40 man roster reasons doesn’t hold weight at all. This is not a 40 man roster bursting with talent.
The point being, the Mets are keeping Alonso down entirely for service time reasons. Even though as an older prospect they probably won’t even want him at his arbitration salary in the later years of team control since he’ll already be 30. Let the man play now.
The BPro guys have been in on McNeil since the beginning of the year claiming you’re the only one who noticed him is straight up malpractice
Here’s Pastorno writing about McNeil in 2014 https://www.amazinavenue.com/platform/amp/2014/6/9/5657298/new-york-mets-prospects-jeff-mcneil-scouting-report
Yeah, and here’s what that 2014 article said:
“I don’t expect much home run pop, as he isn’t going to generate much backspin with that swing plane, but he should hit for average. ”
It’s a plain old scouting report of an interesting prospect, not a top-100 endorsement.
Meanwhile, their article on prospects who’d have breakout seasons in 2018 made no mention of him:
https://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/article/42599/banjo-hitter-the-breakout-players-of-2018/
Further, as a reader with no ax to grind I object to your characterization that the author has some obligation to scour the landscape for positive mentions, and to then mention every one of them in his article. As a reader I don’t really give a hoot that someone at BPro wrote something nice about him. The point stands: He was not a top prospect.
Go grind your ax elsewhere.
Where does anyone claim to have noticed him? The only relevant paragraph says that fangraphs didn’t notice him.
“He didn’t appear on prospect lists for the Mets here at FanGraphs, at Minor League Ball, or Baseball Prospectus. Only the enigmatic Carson Cistulli mentioned McNeil in an early July edition of the Fringe Five.”
This is patently untrue. Sure, McNeil didn’t make the BP 101, but if you follow current lead prospect analyst Jeff Peternostro (or just BP at all) this year you would have seen them covering him. You would have seen him covered last year too. This is just a poor job by Fangraphs here to not acknowledge BP’s coverage.
“He didn’t appear on prospect lists” is quite patently true.
What list did he show up on?
I recently read a very good take on why Alonso is not in The Show (ht Andy Martino): he is not on the 40 man roster, and the Mets (like most teams) will need space this offseason (my understanding is all players come off the DL and get added to the roster).
So, in addition to the service time clock, you have a more prosaic concern: do you add Alonso and then create a logjam which will result in a serviceable player currently on the 40 man to be DFA’d?
This Met fan (which has seen a complete lifetime’s worth of boneheaded front office decisions, starting with Horace Grant) thinks “NO.” Getting a few reps over a few meaningless games in Sept is not worth the potential offseason problems.
MacNeil, on the other hand – “YES!” The Mets had to see what they had in him, and despite the sniffy reception from most scouts and sabermetricians, I honestly hope the Mets make the keystone his to lose and don’t f*** things up at 2B during the offseason.
Leave Alonso and his troublemaking agents alone until next year.
A blog I read sometimes, Mack’s Mets, has been excited about him since 2014 (!) Gotta give credit. His reputation back then was an athletic player new to baseball because he had played golf in college, who for some reason seemed to get a few hits every single night, stole bases, and showed a great eye at the plate, but had no power to speak of whatsoever. He was somewhat a tweener because he was a good defender (he won best defender at second along with Guillorme at short,) but didn’t play shortstop, so for him to be legit he would have to be able to do everything just as well in the Majors as he did in the minors. Here though, you can already see a solid prospect, and if he figures some stuff out could be real good. Then he did.
In 2016 there were reports that he looked like he put on muscle. He went out and played a few games, hit some dingers, and then got hurt the rest of the year. Same thing last year, but then a sprinkle of AAA at the end of the year because time was-a-tickin. Fast forward to this year, and nobody really knows what to expect. They put him at AA to start the year, and he mashes. He is exactly the same player he’s always been, except he does now have some pop. Perfect. People start to notice and get excited about him. One thing that happens now that bothers me was they start slapping this “sub par defender” narrative on him because people just assume that because he’s a Mets prospect, and that they haven’t heard of him before, he therefore must have some Fatal Flaw. It’s easy to give a cursory glance at his numbers this year and say “Oh he’s mashING – he’s probably just a mashER,” even though nothing could be further from the truth. So the narrative with him becomes “yeah – but can he play second base?,” which I find funny because that has never been a question before.
Long story short, Mets call him up and he does exactly what he’s been doing. It’s definitely an interesting prospect development because this one is more a tale of outsiders like us and our perceptions rather than anything the actual player has done.
I love Fangraphs but this article is horrible. If you think that the Mets deserve any credit for finally caving and in August promoting a 26 year old with a 1100 MiLB OPS I don’t know what to tell you. They did everything in their power to ruin Dom Smith’s career and they told Peter Alonso to his face that he wasn’t promoted as a “business decision.” They’ve rostered Jose Reyes all year, played Jose Bautista and Austin Jackson every day, and traded Patrick Kivlehan for cash, and these are just things from the last two weeks.
Not to mention that they credit Cistulli for being the only one to notice McNeil when Paternostro at BP mentioned him in May and plenty of other folks (myself included) were all over the McNeil story around that time too. Cistulli was late.
Pfffft… yeah, after I goaded him into it for several weeks.
I thought this was an article about being rewarded for having no hair on your head.
If Jeff McNeil sprints 27.6 mph, he is one of the fastest human beings alive.
As far as the exit-velocity/power question, McNeil looks to me like he’s gotten ahead of that — I think he’s deliberately embracing slap hitting at the major-league level because he knows his PCL power isn’t going to play in Queens. He’s not trying to elevate and pull the ball most of the time, he’s using his excellent bat control (this is to me his carrying tool/skill) to spray it into the gaps.
Just for posterity’s sake: SNY’s on-field reporter Steve Gelbs reported during today’s game that McNeil told him pretty much exactly this — that he made a conscious decision, when transitioning to the majors, to switch from trying to hit for power as he had been doing in the minors, and adopt a pure put-it-in-play hitting approach.
No knob, No Prob!
What’s funny is that the situation with McNeil is pretty much the exact situation the Mets had with T.J. Rivera.* Both were unheralded prospects who hit their way through the minors, and continued to do so in the majors as Mets second basemen.
(If you want to go further back, this is also pretty much the exact situation with Daniel Murphy… If either of those guys can be Murphy-lite, I can’t see the Mets being unhappy.
I can see the Mets screwing that up, though).
*T.J. Rivera hurts his elbow, needs Tommy John surgery. He’s out for 18 months…. Shohei Ohtani hurts his elbow, needs Tommy John surgery. He slugs two homers that same night…… I don’t understand baseball. Or medicine.