Jeff Sullivan FanGraphs Chat — 5/25/18
9:06 |
: Hello friends |
9:06 |
: Welcome to Friday baseball chat |
9:06 |
: Sorry about that delay — very much podcasting this morning and afternoon for some reason |
9:06 |
: Worse contract at this point – Heyward or Pujols |
9:06 |
: Pujols. Heyward, despite everything, still isn’t an overall negative |
9:07 |
: It is too bad though — earlier this season, it seemed like Heyward was showing some real signs of life. They’ve all but disappeared, although in fairness he has experienced a concussion |
9:08 |
: So who should pick up Hanley Ramirez for league minimum after he’s released? The Rays could use another right-handed 1B/DH type who isn’t Rob Refsnyder to spell Miller against lefties. Do you think Ramirez has anything left? |
9:09 |
: I don’t know what the point of Ramirez would be for anyone anymore |
9:10 |
: He doesn’t field, he doesn’t run, and he’s no longer much of a hitter. I know that he can still generate some impressive peak exit velocities, but in terms of value, this isn’t a desirable or unusual skillset |
9:11 |
: Refsnyder probably isn’t worse than Ramirez these days, especially given that he can somewhat play the field |
9:12 |
: What kind of impact do you see from Alex Reyes this year? Also will he have an innings limit? |
9:12 |
: I remember reading that the Cardinals had something around 100 innings in mind. That was a few months ago but I doubt much has changed |
9:14 |
: The Cardinals, per usual, have assembled an impressive amount of depth. And that’s going to be useful over the coming months as they try to balance innings among their young starters, from Reyes to Weaver to Flaherty |
9:15 |
: Reyes should find his way close to that innings target. And he’s a big reason why the Cardinals are a very legitimate contender in the division |
9:16 |
: MLB released a statement that the balls aren’t juiced, but something is up with the aerodynamic properties. Some have suggested that every team should have a humidor. The official report mentioned that they have “…not yet succeeded in definitively explaining the cause of the decreased drag coefficient…”. Is this just a ploy by Big Humidor to boost sales? |
9:16 |
: Follow the money. It all goes back to Halliburton |
9:17 |
: Realistically it’s kind of surprising there isn’t already a league-wide humidor policy |
9:17 |
: I know in a certain sense baseball thrives on everyone having a unique playing environment, but there’s no reason not to ensure greater baseball consistency ball to ball and park to park |
9:17 |
: Does this spell the end of Hanley’s 30-30 comeback tour? Where does he end up? |
9:17 |
: I’m sure he’ll end up with some kind of job but his regular playing days are over |
9:18 |
: Baseball doesn’t give that many extra chances to declining veterans these days |
9:18 |
: Why pick up Hanley Ramirez if you could try to deal for Jabari Blash or something? |
9:18 |
: I really like Jabari Blash |
9:19 |
: Jeff! Just an announcement: based on the completely cherry-picked threshold of 100 min. PAs, Brandon Nimmo is third in MLB in wRC+. Also Ohtani is seventh, which is whacko. |
9:19 |
: Brandon Nimmo is good! |
9:19 |
: Not .393 BABIP good, but he’s a good player. And if you look closely, you can see a lot more fly balls all of a sudden |
9:19 |
: Granted, that’s come with an unsettling increase in his pop-ups, but that could settle down |
9:20 |
: Good morning Jeff! Do you suppose that the Mets will have enough patience to wait out the waiver process before picking up Hanley? Or will their washed up slugger fetish compel them to eat the contract as well? |
9:20 |
: Thank goodness for them that Wilmer Flores has a three-digit wRC+ |
9:21 |
: How much have analytics affected baserunning tactics? I feel like teams should still be more aggressive, especially with 2 outs. |
9:21 |
: Let’s try to take a look! |
9:21 |
: I’ll compare 2018 to, I don’t know…1998? |
9:21 |
: 1998 feels pre-analytics |
9:22 |
: In 1998, the average runner moved up an extra base 42% of the time |
9:22 |
: In 2018, the average runner has moved up an extra base…42% of the time |
9:23 |
: Stolen base success rate has gone up four percentage points |
9:23 |
: I don’t have an easy way of breaking this down by outs |
9:23 |
: I think that analytics has had a definite effect on steals, but I don’t know about the rest of baserunning. Feels like that’s still steeped in old-school mentality, because we haven’t come up with much of anything better |
9:24 |
: Should Padres fan have any hope for Margot offensively? Slump or is this just who he is offensively? |
9:26 |
: Well, he’s definitely not *this* — his true talent isn’t a 47 wRC+ |
9:27 |
: His career mark, though, is 81. And that feels realistic to me, because he doesn’t have a standout skill. He’s not that powerful, so it’s going to be hard for him to draw walks. It’s a good thing he’s strong in the field |
9:27 |
: But ultimately that Padres outfield picture isn’t as crowded as it seems. There are players who could stand to lose some playing time |
9:28 |
: So, since starting 12-5 the Blue Jays have gone 11-22, just wrapping up a 1-6 home stand against the A’s and Angels. Lot of ugly, blowout losses, too. Do you still see them as a strong Wild Card contender? |
9:28 |
: I do see them as a contender, because I don’t think they’re actually worse than the Mariners are. But I’ve been counting on Sanchez and Stroman and they just haven’t stepped up. Stroman, of course, is sidelined, and Sanchez has improved his changeup while making everything else a lot worse |
9:30 |
: Guerrero should provide a jolt pretty soon. And some of this has just been a function of the schedule. Early on, the Jays got to beat up on the Rangers, Orioles, Royals, and White Sox |
9:31 |
: What do you think is the Red Sox plan now that they DFA’s Hanley? |
9:33 |
: I’m not sure there’s much here to overthink |
9:33 |
: Ramirez was not good, and he’s gone now that Pedroia is back |
9:33 |
: So now, instead of Pedroia stealing a bunch of playing time from Nunez, Nunez will get to play a little more |
9:34 |
: Maybe Moreland gets a slightly longer leash against lefties, too. With Ramirez’s lack of flexibility, this makes enough sense |
9:36 |
: What will/should the Yankees do when Bird comes back? Austin has been playing well and Walker is hot lately. |
9:37 |
: Because Austin can be optioned to the minors, it seems like the easiest thing to do is just send him to Triple-A for a little while |
9:37 |
: He does still have a sub-.300 OBP after all |
9:38 |
: Neil Walker has had a really strong May after a godawful April, so I don’t think the Yankees would designate him for assignment just yet |
9:39 |
: I’ll say 75% Austin goes to Triple-A, 20% Walker leaves, 5% mystery move |
9:40 |
: I’ve considered that Walker might make a little sense for the Mariners but I doubt they want to just throw Gordon back into the outfield again and he’s not out long-term |
9:42 |
: What the hell’s going on with me? |
9:42 |
: Kind of looks like Goldschmidt disease |
9:43 |
: Might just be a timing thing after missing some weeks, but when you have a shoulder issue that causes throws to look like they have, it wouldn’t be hard to see that impacting the swing as well |
9:45 |
: Most valuable trade asset: Ohtani? Trout? Albies? |
9:45 |
: As much as I love Trout, he’s only got another 2.6 years of (expensive) team control |
9:46 |
: Ohtani would fetch the most at this point. Albies is rising, but he’s also overachieving |
9:46 |
: Ok, the White Sox need to send Lucas Giolito to High A level or something like that. Giving him this exposure cannot be helping him, right? |
9:46 |
: Yeah, Giolito needs to be out of the majors, pronto |
9:46 |
: Zero signs of sustainable improvement. Every time there’s one step forward it’s followed by three steps back |
9:47 |
: Unfortunately the White Sox have very little rotation depth. But for their own sake they should suck it up and find a Giolito replacement anyway. He needs to be trying to work out kinks against inferior competition |
9:48 |
: Is Blake Rutherford’s development legit, or Winston-Salem aided? |
9:48 |
: Doesn’t look all that different to me. A little better contact quality, but nothing that’ll knock you over |
9:49 |
: Alen Hanson was hitting very well for SF before he strained his hamstring. He’s do back shortly. If he keeps hitting will he continue to get significant at bats, or will Joe Panik send him to the bench in a few weeks? |
9:50 |
: Hanson isn’t going to replace a healthy Panik or anything, but he might ultimately displace Sandoval |
9:50 |
: Guillermo Heredia now up to 17.2 BB% in almost 100 PA. Is it time to believe? Can he be a 3-4 WAR player for the m’s? |
9:52 |
: I don’t think Heredia quite has the power to keep up an awesome batting line, but one silver lining of everything that’s happened is that Heredia will get to play more often, so he can try to shed the platoon label he’s got |
9:53 |
: On his side is the fact that he can play center, he can get the bat on the ball, and he can manage the strike zone |
9:53 |
: Perhaps, at the end of it, the Mariners come to realize that Heredia is a better player than Gamel is |
9:54 |
: What time of haul would it take for a team (Brewers?) to get Realmuto? |
9:54 |
: Big one. Two years of arbitration after this season |
9:55 |
: Think about what Lucroy got with one less year of control |
9:55 |
: Cost will be steep, but Realmuto is good enough |
9:56 |
: What are your thoughts on Hanley DFA? Realistic spots where he could go to? |
9:56 |
: Chat is loaded with these questions! I can’t help but feel like I find Hanley Ramirez to be less interesting than most everyone else |
9:57 |
: I mean, his career overall has been deeply interesting. He was once a top-five major-league player |
9:57 |
: But now? He’s kind of going the way of Andruw Jones or Griffey or something |
9:57 |
: So how about Austin Meadows? He’s not striking out, not whiffing much, showing power, making solid contact overall. No doubt the pitchers will adjust but so far it doesn’t completely look like it’s just a simple fluke, no? |
9:58 |
: If, as a hitter, you’re going to debut, you want to debut with six games against the Padres and the Reds |
9:58 |
: The Pirates are certainly thrilled that Meadows has already gone deep three times. But they also recognize he went deep all of once in Triple-A |
9:59 |
: I feel like this is going to be a short stint |
9:59 |
: How do you think Moreland will do with a full time gig now that Hanley is out? |
9:59 |
: Worse |
9:59 |
: Byron Buxton solved his soft contact problems: just strike out! |
9:59 |
: For everything that’s ever been written about Buxton, his year-to-year strikeout rates have spanned from 29% to 36% |
10:00 |
: Which is to say, they’ve spanned from high to very high |
10:00 |
: Maybe — just maybe — Byron Buxton isn’t going to be a good major-league hitter |
10:01 |
: So did everyone jump the gun a bit on saying Didi Gregorius was the second coming? |
10:01 |
: He’s still good, and he’s still more than doubled his walk rate |
10:01 |
: But the real guy to watch here is Andrelton Simmons, who got a little lost in the shuffle |
10:02 |
: Like Gregorius, Simmons got off to a hot start. Unlike Gregorius, Simmons has continued to hit |
10:02 |
: He’s struck out two times in May! |
10:02 |
: In 95 plate appearances! |
10:02 |
: Andrelton Simmons! |
10:04 |
: Joey Gallo: O-swing% way up, walk rate way down. Too early to get alarmed as this will basically be just his 2nd full-season in the bigs? |
10:05 |
: Some of this, I think, is just natural give and take. Gallo is still a fearsome hitter, who destroys almost every fly ball that he hits. But something about Gallo this season has convinced pitchers they can get away with more stuff in the zone. That’s led to the lower walk rate — pitchers are being more aggressive |
10:06 |
: Could be connected to Gallo trying to do more to hit the ball up the middle or to the opposite field. He might be making himself worse by trying to make himself better |
10:06 |
: But I wouldn’t give up on him yet. His contact rate is up a few points. Give him another few months. The Rangers can afford to be patient |
10:07 |
: Jeff – hiking Mt St. Helens in late June – what do I need to be prepared? What should I know from your vast volcano / PNW hiking knowledge repository? |
10:08 |
: You’ll encounter snow, but by that point probably not very much. Expect the sun to beat down on you. Expect to breathe ashy air. I’ve done St Helens four years in a row but always in winter, when I get to climb on snow and ice. If I were in your position, I’d try for an alpine start — 2 or 3 in the morning — so as to not be up there in the hottest part of the day |
10:08 |
: Comes with the pleasant side effect of avoiding the big crowd |
10:09 |
: Also, you’d be above timberline for sunrise! It’s a great sunrise |
10:09 |
: I assume you’re doing this from the climbers bivouac, and not Marble Mountain Sno-Park |
10:10 |
: So Brandon Nimmo. Is he still a 45 FV prospect? It seems like that’s selling him a bit short. Have his tools just improved (50 bat seems low given his OBP) or is he hitting his 1% percentile? |
10:11 |
: Fun fact! Yesterday, Nimmo hit a ball 110.9 miles per hour, which is the highest EV of his big-league career |
10:11 |
: He also hit a ball 108.3 miles per hour, which ranks fourth |
10:12 |
: Seems like Nimmo’s discipline has simply been underrated. It can be a hard trait to identify when you’re just seeing a guy for a few live games a year |
10:13 |
: Nimmo’s not a premium defender and he’s not yet much of a threat against lefties, but he’s better than his reputation has been |
10:15 |
: And what would you do with Pirates outfield now while Meadows bat is hot? 4 man OF? Send down Meadows for super 2 reasons? |
10:15 |
: I could see the argument for a four-man rotation, but since the three starters should play almost every game, I think at least for the short-term Meadows returns to Triple-A |
10:17 |
: Do pitchers with elite breaking balls benefit from consistent and similar elite movement on the pitch, or from giving batters different looks on the same pitch, even if it’s inferior movement? |
10:18 |
: Depends on the pitcher. Guys like McCullers and Hill talk about how they add and subtract from their curveballs, which effectively turns one pitch into multiple |
10:19 |
: Kluber, on the other hand, might be more concerned with always trying to throw his breaking ball the same way |
10:20 |
: But honestly, the former is kind of a pre-req for the latter. You have to have elite control of a pitch before you can feel comfortable adding and subtracting |
10:20 |
: Is keeping Lucas Giolito in the Bigs a mistake? |
10:20 |
: Yep |
10:20 |
: What’s your favorite show to watch right now? |
10:21 |
: Not head-over-heels in love with anything, but happily going through Crashing and Atlanta |
10:23 |
: Altuve and Hoskins were supposed to be the cornerstone of my fantasy team. They have 8 HR’s combined and Hoskins has almost 20 more K’s than hits. What’s up with them? |
10:23 |
: Altuve is one of the last players I’d worry about. He’s probably going to go on a homer flurry at some point |
10:24 |
: As for Hoskins, he’s sitting on a 124 wRC+. All things considered, that’s terrific |
10:24 |
: It’s true that May hasn’t been pretty, but Hoskins was also kind of overdue for his first real big-league adjustment. He wasn’t up long enough last season to get figured out |
10:25 |
: This month, Hoskins has seen far more changeups and far fewer fastballs |
10:27 |
: Worth noting that, in April, Hoskins saw first-pitch strikes less than half the time(!). In May, that’s normalized |
10:28 |
: Contact quality is still there, and the contact rate hasn’t plummeted to some horrible depth. I think Hoskins gets out of this, but something like this was coming |
10:29 |
: Is there even one legitimate reason for the Red Sox to not even try Swihart at Catcher? He can’t be any worse than what Vazquez and Leon are doing and I doubt his bat will be worth much at 1B, not to mention that it’s a huge waste of his athleticism. |
10:30 |
: Probably comes down to the fact that Swihart himself hasn’t hit well in a very long time |
10:30 |
: And it’s not like, compared to Vazquez or Leon, he offers any meaningful defensive advantage |
10:31 |
: Hard situation to disrupt on the fly when you’re playing for first place in your division |
10:31 |
: How would you recommend using xWOBA to predict future outcomes? |
10:32 |
: Carefully |
10:32 |
: It’s just one component to me, and I’d rather look at launch angles, exit velocities, and discipline rates |
10:33 |
: I like xwOBA as it’s constructed because it’s an easy way to say “hey this guy has been good/bad” but xwOBA is probably going to mirror BABIP and we know that BABIP bounces around all the time |
10:33 |
: If a guy hits a bunch of weak bloopers, then xwOBA will consider that good! Even though nothing about a blooper is sustainable |
10:34 |
: Lots of questions have been asked about the Astros pitchers spin rate absurd increases. Have there been answers? |
10:35 |
: Verlander has always had a high-spin fastball |
10:35 |
: Mostly this is about Cole |
10:36 |
: Cole had some games last year where his four-seamer was exceeding 2200 RPM. Now it’s just exceeding 2300 RPM |
10:36 |
: It’s also getting a little more rise and a little more cut |
10:37 |
: Wouldn’t be surprised if Cole were just releasing the ball slightly differently |
10:38 |
: I am not a conspiracy theorist |
10:38 |
: On May 13th, the Phillies played the Mets. Bottom of the 5th inning, Aaron Nola delivered an 85.4 MPH changeup, which Jorge Alfaro received and then threw out a runner with a 91.3 MPH fastball. That difference has to be some sort of record. |
10:38 |
: Probably not! Because Alfaro has probably made another strong throw after an Aaron Nola curveball |
10:40 |
: What should the Cardinals do with Dexter Fowler? Signed to be CF and leadoff, now bottom of the order platoon RF. Does he get the Mike Leake sendoff? |
10:40 |
: In Triple-A, this very season, Tyler O’Neill had three walks and 28 strikeouts |
10:41 |
: Meanwhile, Dexter Fowler is sitting on a BABIP of literally .164 |
10:42 |
: Fowler’s launch angle isn’t meaningfully different and I don’t think he completely forgot how to hit overnight |
10:43 |
: He hasn’t had a below-average batting line since 2010 |
10:44 |
: Last year, through to this point, Curtis Granderson had a 47 wRC+, and a .191 BABIP |
10:44 |
: The rest of the way, his wRC+ was 132 |
10:45 |
: Fowler deserves some patience |
10:46 |
: Who is this year’s Jason Vargas: overperforming veteran you have no desire to write about? |
10:46 |
: Let me check! |
10:47 |
: Oh right, Nick Markakis |
10:47 |
: It’s Nick Markakis |
10:47 |
: What went wrong with the Johnny Cueto trade for the Reds, just the way it goes sometimes? |
10:48 |
: I liked all three pitchers they got, and they did well to get that much talent for a three-month rental. And yet out of every team in baseball, I don’t think there’s a team I trust to develop pitching less than I trust the Reds |
10:49 |
: Granted, it’s probably not the Reds’ fault that Finnegan hasn’t been healthy |
10:49 |
: Reed’s control has gone backwards as he’s climbed the ladder |
10:50 |
: Funny thing about Lamb is that he’s kind of back on the radar, in Triple-A for the Angels |
10:51 |
: 42 strikeouts in 38 innings for Salt Lake. It’s something! |
10:51 |
: But he has yet to throw even 70 pitches in a start. Take-home message: when you trade for young pitching, you have no idea what you’re getting in return |
10:51 |
: Jeff. Hey Jeff. Kids born in 2000 are getting drafted in two weeks. |
10:52 |
: Already felt like a useless old fraud. Only have to hold out another 35 years! |
10:52 |
: What would you think the Orioles would ask for teams interested in Machado? |
10:52 |
: More than those teams are going to give |
10:53 |
: Machado is better than J.D. Martinez, but at last year’s deadline, Martinez got hardly anything. The haul the Orioles eventually get in exchange for their best player is not likely to be all that significant. They’ll get a good prospect or two, but nothing incredible |
10:54 |
: With several $100+ million contracts and some elite young players breaking records in arbitration, do the Cubs actually have the money to sign Machado or Harper in the offseason? |
10:54 |
: Yes |
10:55 |
: The Cubs more or less print money these days. Granted, something like this might require a trade to make room, but, trades are extremely feasible |
10:56 |
: What kind of player would have market price around Pujols’ contract? |
10:56 |
: So, about $106 million through 2021 |
10:57 |
: A very extremely good player |
10:57 |
: Even Lorenzo Cain only got $80 million through *2022* |
10:58 |
: Imagine a younger version of present Lorenzo Cain |
10:58 |
: Given the strides that Phillies are making this season, if they can sign Machado do you think that puts them as NL East Frontrunners for several years? |
10:59 |
: Obviously depends on what the Braves do, since they’re also close, but we are about ripe for a Phillies/Braves NL East showdown with the Nationals appearing closer and closer to the end of their cycle |
10:59 |
: That being said, if Soto and Robles are what the Nationals think they could be, then, well, nevermind |
10:59 |
: Could you see the Yankees try trading for one of Kevin Gausman or Dylan Bundy? |
10:59 |
: The Orioles strike me as one of those teams that wouldn’t want to trade good long-term talent within the division |
11:00 |
: What percent of contracts are negative value? |
11:00 |
: Far far fewer than those which are positive value |
11:00 |
: Jeff, I like to hike. In the summer, bugs scare me. I feel greater stress. Is it just time that will help me get used to them or have any tips? |
11:00 |
: Few things can spoil a great hike or climb quite like a swarm of mosquitoes |
11:01 |
: Personally I have no experience with ticks |
11:01 |
: But as mosquitoes go, just do your best to work around them. Obviously, you’ll want some spray, but also just try not to spend too much time around water. Certainly don’t *camp* really close to water during mosquito season |
11:01 |
: And maybe try to schedule your hikes for windy days! |
11:02 |
: If you couldn’t write about baseball for a living, what would you be doing? Open up a trampoline gym? |
11:02 |
: No idea. Something not on the internet |
11:02 |
: Any chance expansion could come one team at a time? |
11:02 |
: Some chance, yes, but I don’t think it’s a high chance |
11:02 |
: Tips for camping in the rain? |
11:02 |
: Try not to do it |
11:03 |
: But if you find you will have to do it, steel yourself ahead of time. Work on your morale! Bring many changes of socks, and keep everything in your pack inside a garbage back or two so that your gear doesn’t get soaked |
11:03 |
: will Yu be back to himself before the end of the year you think? |
11:03 |
: Yes |
11:04 |
: How does one go from batting second to a DFA the next morning? |
11:04 |
: It’s the DFA that makes sense. The lineup positioning is the weird part |
11:04 |
: Are your work nightmares about baseball? |
11:04 |
: About writing about baseball, definitely |
11:05 |
: The other week I had a dream where I was in my office like normal, blogging about baseball |
11:05 |
: Then I woke up and came into my office to blog about baseball |
11:05 |
: It was very stupid |
11:06 |
: Is the bubbling close to the majors/just debuted prospect crop this year (Acuna, Soto, Guerrero Jr., etc.) better than usual? It feel better than usual. |
11:07 |
: Better than usual, probably, but in, say, 2015, there was Correa, Lindor, Sano, Osuna, Bryant, Syndergaard… |
11:07 |
: All right, I need to get rolling |
11:08 |
: So thank you everybody for hanging out, and I’m sorry for what I didn’t or couldn’t address. We’ll do it again next week at the same time, and until then, be well and have great days |
Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.
Chris Davis and Miggy have to be in the discussion for the worst contract with Pujols right?
Davis? Not a chance. He’s getting essentially the same ($115M) over 5 years (including 2018) as Pujols is over 4 years ($114M). Plus a ton of that money for Davis is deferred. And all things considered, he’s probably the better bet to be the better player over the next 4 years. And he’s 6 years younger.
Miggy is more interesting, because he’s making way more money ($192M for 6 years, including an $8M buyout of the 7th year). But he’s also unquestionably the best player of the 3.
If we say Pujols’ value is 0 over the next 4 years (which is probably being generous), then Miggy would have to be worth about $78M ($192M – $114M) over 6 years to put him on par with Pujols. That’s $13M a season which seems reasonable. He’s been worth more than half of the $13M this year, in only 26 games.
I’d gamble a bit and take Miggy, but could totally understand taking Pujols just so you’re done with the whole thing faster!