Jeff Sullivan FanGraphs Chat — 8/10/18
9:07 |
: Hello friends |
9:07 |
: Welcome to Friday baseball chat |
9:07 |
: Just finished podding. Good to go now |
9:07 |
: Hello, friend! |
9:07 |
: Hello friend |
9:08 |
: So are MVP voters still too old school to see that I am in fact the one and only deserving MVP? Because in 20 games less I have done more than the rest! |
9:08 |
: MVP voters for some reason still get worried about vote-splitting. I suspect Betts is going to have his support somewhat mitigated by the presence of J.D. Martinez |
9:09 |
: I wonder how strongly Matt Chapman is going to finish in the ballots. Lots of defensive value, which usually doesn’t get much credit, but he’ll be the main reason why the A’s make the playoffs, if they make they playoffs |
9:09 |
: What is going on with Severino? Also, Wild Card game starts today…is he even your starter? |
9:10 |
: Would’ve been a better question a few days ago. Severino just struck out eight White Sox, with zero walks, over seven innings |
9:11 |
: Right now I still don’t see too much reason to be alarmed |
9:11 |
: His release point has been slowly going up all season long, and I haven’t taken too close a look at his delivery, but this is the kind of thing I assume he straightens out. His stuff is all still there |
9:12 |
: Who is the real David Bote? |
9:13 |
: Roughly league-average eye, pretty good top exit velocities. I can’t yet say much about Bote as a defender, but he’s a big-leaguer. Probably good enough to be a decent starter somewhere |
9:14 |
: Do certain pitch types play up or down for day games? |
9:14 |
: What a great research project for somebody else! |
9:15 |
: That sounds dismissive but I’m serious |
9:15 |
: Would require skills more technical than what I possess |
9:15 |
: Who could be the best players (aside from Trout) in the league in 2020? |
9:15 |
: Many of the same players who are among the best today |
9:16 |
: 2020 isn’t that distant. Among the top 10 WAR marks for 2016 were Trout, Betts, Bryant, Syndergaard, Seager, Altuve, Kershaw, and Machado |
9:17 |
: Will Carlos Martinez ever make the next step to be a true ace? |
9:18 |
: He’s never stayed out of walk trouble against left-handed hitters. That’s been true for so many years now I don’t think we can assume he gets better |
9:19 |
: Could end up something simple — we know this year he tried adding a cutter — but the likelihood is he is what he is |
9:20 |
: Craig Stammen is pretty good? Why wasn’t he looked at as a trade candidate. High WAR, K/9, SwStr% & GB% |
9:21 |
: He was looked at as a trade candidate. He just wasn’t traded, like Kirby Yates |
9:21 |
: The reliever market was flooded, and both Stammen and Yates are still under club control in 2019. Padres will probably just try again |
9:22 |
: What happens to Cozart if Ward has a strong September and ST 2019? Fletcher looks solid at 2B and 3B (can fill in at SS), Rengifo can play 2B, 3B and SS as well. Cowart can play SS, 2B and 3B (even some corner OF in a pinch). |
9:23 |
: Cozart would presumably play second. Third would be a battle between Ward, Fletcher, etc. Ward hasn’t succeeded in the majors yet, and Fletcher is slugging .351 |
9:25 |
: Who catches for us in 2019? |
9:25 |
: Based on zero inside information: Kurt Suzuki, Tyler Flowers, or Austin Hedges |
9:27 |
: Will Bo Bichette start 2019 in AAA? When do you think he will reach the big league? |
9:28 |
: Very strong likelihood he begins next year in Triple-A. From there, if he’s good enough, he’d be likely to come up somewhere around July |
9:28 |
: Keep in mind he hasn’t exactly torn it up this season. Not a bad season! Just not an eye-popping one. The Blue Jays will be predictably patient |
9:29 |
: I think there is something wrong with how the playoff odds page for the NL wildcard is shown. Currently it shows 6 teams that are less than 0 games back. Ex, the cardinals shouldn’t currently be 0 games back in the wild card. |
9:29 |
: Yeah, I think it’s getting thrown off because of the tie atop the NL West. I’ll forward to Sean |
9:30 |
: Will the Orioles be eliminated tonight? |
9:30 |
: When God closes a door, he opens a window |
9:30 |
: Has any team unloaded as many players in July and August as MN has this year? Can they send Morrison or Forsythe or Santana out still and keep it going? They don’t have many guys left to deal…. |
9:31 |
: It was a roster made up of a whole bunch of contract-year players. This is what happens to those |
9:31 |
: Wouldn’t be shocked to see Ervin Santana on the move |
9:32 |
: Seems like Jesus Luzardo will pitch for the A’s since their rotation is thin right now. Have you heard anything about this? |
9:33 |
: Haven’t heard anything, aside from Luzardo having been promoted to Triple-A. I think part of the reason they got Fiers was to reduce the pressure here. Ideally, I think the A’s would let Luzardo’s season play out where it is, but there’s little question to me that they’d want him to be available in the playoffs should they indeed advance |
9:35 |
: Luzardo isn’t on the 40-man roster, and in theory he’d have to be added by August 31 to be postseason-eligible |
9:35 |
: But! “Clubs can petition the Commissioner’s Office to add any player that was not on the 40-man roster as of Aug. 31 — provided the player was in the organization on Aug. 31 and is replacing a player who has spent at least 60 days on the 60-day disabled list. The Royals were able to use this tactic to add Brandon Finnegan to their roster during the 2014 postseason, despite the fact that Finnegan was not on the 40-man roster as of Aug. 31.” |
9:35 |
: Felix 🙁 |
9:36 |
: Maybe he’ll have a bullpen rejuvenation! |
9:36 |
: Maybe! |
9:36 |
: If you don’t have hope, you don’t have anything |
9:37 |
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9:37 |
: I think that, today, 30 out of 30 front offices would say Chris Archer is still better than Tyler Glasnow, but at the same time I think there’s a real good chance that a little down the road, we look back on this and say the Rays knew exactly what they were doing when they decided to make Archer available |
9:38 |
: Might not be a coincidence that the Rays were more willing to trade Archer than ever. Statistically, his slider has gone backwards, and without the slider, what is he? |
9:39 |
: Rumor has it the CIA has decided to stop waterboarding terror suspects in favor of forcing them to watch the Rockies bullpen. |
9:39 |
: Only works if every terror suspect is a Rockies fan |
9:39 |
: Is every terror suspect a Rockies fan? |
9:39 |
: If so, we gotta do something about all these Rockies fans |
9:39 |
: Maybe this is what makes them so radicalized in the first place |
9:40 |
: Jansen irregular heartbeat, huge blow for the dodgers. How do you think they will handle it? internally or via trade if not available for the postseason? |
9:41 |
: I think the expectation is that this is very treatable and he’d be okay by October. The Dodgers will probably stay internal; if there’s one thing they have, it’s an accumulation of quality arms |
9:42 |
: Thoughts on Tyler White? Can he hit enough to be a 1B/DH? |
9:42 |
: Yes |
9:43 |
: He actually projects for about the same wOBA as Gurriel |
9:43 |
: Ditto Gattis |
9:44 |
: This year in Triple-A, White had twice as many walks as swinging strikeouts |
9:44 |
: Would a team rather have Tyler White or Eric Hosmer? It’s closer than you’d think! |
9:46 |
: If Felix was a free agent after this and not next season what kind of a contract do you think he would get? |
9:46 |
: After 2015, Tim Lincecum signed for a year and $2.5 million with the Angels |
9:47 |
: He was coming off surgery, while Felix would be coming off a lousy season. But something in that ballpark |
9:48 |
: Julio Teheran will cost $11MM next year… Is he an August/offseason trade candidate with all the young Braves arms starting to graduate? |
9:48 |
: Don’t figure there would be a vibrant market |
9:48 |
: Been a below-average pitcher for a year and a half |
9:49 |
: Given that the season is almost over, who under 25 is worth getting excited about for their long term future? |
9:49 |
: Juan Soto. Juan Soto! Juan Soto!! |
9:49 |
: We haven’t written nearly enough yet about Jake Bauers |
9:50 |
: Ronald Acuna is quietly still running a 119 wRC+ |
9:50 |
: And there are young pitchers too |
9:51 |
: So many options. So many exciting young baseball players. Never a shortage |
9:51 |
: Does Dansby Swanson finish next season as Atlanta’s SS? Camargo at short with Riley (or FA signing) at 3B would provide more offense. |
9:51 |
: I think Swanson will get another chance to open next season, but he has to hit. No other way to put it |
9:52 |
: His *highest* wRC+ for a month this year is 104 |
9:52 |
: What do you think the chances are that the Angels move Kole Calhoun this month? |
9:52 |
: Just about 0%. They want to be competitive in 2019 |
9:53 |
: They know they can’t give up on a year while they still have Mike Trout under contract |
9:54 |
: Should the Padres promote Luis Urias? |
9:55 |
: He’s their best second baseman, but he’s also not on the 40-man roster. Personally, I wouldn’t be put off by that |
9:55 |
: In other words, yeah |
9:56 |
: Good baseball examples of correlation =/= causation? |
9:56 |
: I bet, if you looked at it, the Rays’ home winning percentage goes down as their attendance goes up |
9:56 |
: Because they draw their biggest crowds from playing the Red Sox and Yankees |
9:56 |
: I don’t know why that’s what came to me first |
9:57 |
: Teams win more often when they wear white jerseys |
9:59 |
: Thoughts on Jacob Nix starting tonight? |
10:00 |
: Safe, because he’s a strike-thrower. Probable lower ceiling, because he doesn’t miss bats |
10:00 |
: Honestly, it’s just fun to see different names in the Padres’ rotation. It’s been largely so boring |
10:01 |
: Betts went from 7 fwar to 7.5 fwar in one night. How is that possible this late in the season? |
10:01 |
: He went 4-for-4 with a cycle and a walk |
10:02 |
https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y… : Yesterday he was worth 0.4 WAR via his hitting alone |
10:02 |
: Mitch Haniger was worth 0.3 |
10:04 |
: Could teams put some type of PED language into contracts? |
10:04 |
: Can’t imagine the union would allow it |
10:04 |
: Can’t imagine the agent would allow it to be signed |
10:05 |
: There’s already a joint drug agreement. Anything related to PEDs should be collectively bargained |
10:05 |
: Are the Yankees going to blow past the salary cap next year? Or is the current plan of staying under (or perhaps juuust over) their new normal? |
10:06 |
: I think the whole idea has been to drop under the threshold once, so as to reset the penalties |
10:06 |
: The Yankees aren’t going to stay around $190 million forever. They can easily afford a payroll twice that |
10:07 |
: Would you answer these questions any differently if you knew that the people who are posing as players were actually the players themselves? |
10:08 |
: No question |
10:08 |
: I’d be a lot more thoughtful in my responses |
10:08 |
: Although I don’t really know why. What has any random baseball player done to deserve my respect? |
10:09 |
: More than any of the readers, I mean |
10:09 |
: Guess I’m just a suck-up |
10:09 |
: Maybe if I’m nice they’d give me some money |
10:09 |
: Do the Padres promote Mejia soon? |
10:09 |
: You tell me, Dave. You’re the one who works for them |
10:10 |
: Are there any players who consistently overperform their peripherals? |
10:10 |
: For hitters, really fast guys |
10:10 |
: They sometimes blow away their expected wOBAs |
10:11 |
: For pitchers, you’ve got some fly-ball guys. And some weirdos, like Brad Ziegler |
10:12 |
: Hell, Julio Teheran has a career 93 ERA- and 108 FIP- |
10:12 |
: Why? I don’t know! |
10:12 |
: Why does Fangraphs have wRC+ for minor leaguers but not a similarly league-adjusted stat for pitching like ERA-? |
10:12 |
: That’s a good question, Dan |
10:13 |
: Jeff, how concerned are you about the AL East? It seems me that it is a major issue that a team with the second best record in baseball could very easily be knocked out in a 1-game playoff. |
10:14 |
: I don’t think it’s a crisis. If anything, you could argue this is better for baseball — this way, the Red Sox and Yankees are forever pushing one another, more than they’d have to do if there were realignment or re-seeding |
10:15 |
: No, it doesn’t end up perfectly “fair,” but the MLB playoffs aren’t about fairness. They’re about chaos. If a great team ends up in a situation where it has to eliminate a worse team in a one-game playoff, well, what drama! |
10:16 |
: Can the A’s have all the relievers? |
10:16 |
: I think they do |
10:16 |
: Who is the Padres right fielder of the future? Renfroe? Franmil Reyes? Franchy? Somebody else? |
10:16 |
: Guessing it’s Franchy or it’s somebody else who isn’t Renfroe or Reyes |
10:18 |
: Reyes is like Cordero without so much athleticism. And Renfroe is probably playing over his head |
10:19 |
: But to Renfroe’s credit, he’s become a better hitter than I thought he would be. There are worse outfielders out there starting |
10:19 |
: Will the Padres make a big move this winter? |
10:19 |
: Probably |
10:20 |
: Of the teams that still have a chance, who do you hope makes the playoffs? |
10:20 |
: I hope the Brewers make it, because I want all the best for August. And while a part of my brain still hopes the Mariners make it, I’m also comfortable with their identity as perennial disappointments, which makes me want to root for the A’s to keep it up |
10:21 |
: Twist ending: the A’s pass the Yankees and become WC1, allowing for a hell of a home environment |
10:21 |
: When can the Padres start competing? |
10:21 |
: Slightly possible next year, far far more possible the year after that |
10:21 |
: Who’s your pick for Orioles all star 2019: Bundy vs the field? |
10:21 |
: Field |
10:22 |
: They’ll probably have some closer with like 22 saves and a sub-3 ERA |
10:22 |
: Thoughts on the Rodney trade to Oakland? Anyone left for the Dodgers to land with Jansen out a month? |
10:23 |
: Remember when everyone assumed it was only a matter of time before Rodney lost his closing job to Reed? |
10:23 |
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10:23 |
: I love Fernando Rodney. I love that he’s always just barely good enough |
10:23 |
: If I could hang out with any baseball player for a day, Rodney would be somewhere in my top three options |
10:25 |
: odor, profar, and gallo are certainly giving rangers fans reason to be optimistic lately. which of those 3 are you highest and lowest on? |
10:26 |
: I think I trust Profar the most. Odor I trust the least, just because of how low his lows got |
10:27 |
: What happened to Wade Davis? |
10:28 |
: Mechanically it seems like he’s recently a little out of whack. But he’s also been in a slow decline for a while — his strike rate has dropped every year since 2014. Right now he’s a hair under 60%. That’s very wild |
10:29 |
: Davis has increasingly moved away from the zone. And when you’re constantly dealing with deep counts, it doesn’t take many bad breaks for an inning to go sideways |
10:29 |
: Is Framil Reyes a good enough player to start every day? |
10:29 |
: Probably not |
10:30 |
: But he sure is strong! |
10:32 |
: Joc Pederson currently running a 258/333/540 line. Good for an 873 OPS and a 132 OPS+. His K rates seem way down, but so do his walks. This seems more in line with what people have been expecting out of him for years. Any reason to think it could be an aberration? |
10:33 |
: Every so often Pederson takes some different-looking swings, and he’s been no stranger to making tweaks on the fly. But I think he is roughly what he’s been for a while: an acceptable platoon semi-regular |
10:34 |
: More contact is good, but the benefit is mitigated when you also lose walks. And while his surface numbers look strong, you have to remember he almost never sees a lefty |
10:34 |
: And his current-season wRC+ against lefties is 0 |
10:35 |
: How would you know if a switch hitter should try not switch hitting? |
10:35 |
: If he’s been a lot worse from one side over like 400-500 PA |
10:35 |
: As someone who has struggled with arrthymia, I can’t imagine Jensen being able to handle that along with the physical stress of pitching and the emotional weight of being in the highest leverage situations. Best of luck to him. |
10:36 |
: I don’t think it makes it “better,” but Jansen has dealt with something like this before. So at least it isn’t coming out of nowhere |
10:36 |
: Where is catcher framing value going? Any updates? Does fangraphs ever plan on including it in WAR? Should we be adding it in when evaluating catchers right now? |
10:36 |
: I think there’s some kind of framing component that’s included in catcher DRS |
10:37 |
: As for when FanGraphs will fold it into WAR, I don’t have a good answer for that right now, because it’s not that simple. If you add it into catcher value, you have to remove the effect from pitcher value, and good luck sussing that out very cleanly |
10:37 |
: My big concern about the M’s is if they don’t make it in this year, they may not make it for another 5. The Astros are gonna keep being impossibly good for a while, Oakland has a young core that could get stronger, the Angels are always a threat so long as Trout plays for them. Is there anything you can say to talk me down from the ledge beyond invoking the power of randomness? |
10:37 |
: All I can say is you shouldn’t be up on a ledge over the Mariners in the first place |
10:39 |
: They’re a baseball team. They’re a roughly average baseball team, in an unenviable short- and long-term position. Yeah, they’re a little bit screwed, but have you ever just sat and watched a squirrel in a tree? |
10:40 |
: Are pickoff throws actually effective when we’re talking errors vs outs? Another way to ask, why don’t pitchers fake pickoffs more often given that it achieves the same general result of keeping the runner close? |
10:41 |
: I think the overwhelming majority of pickoff throws are of the lighter, never-going-to-work variety. It’s a step off and an easy throw over, just because it might be more impactful for the runner to see a throw instead of just a look or a pump-fake |
10:41 |
: But are they effective when you zero in on the pickoffs thrown with intent? I honestly don’t know! I don’t have those numbers. I would sure like to |
10:43 |
: If I were a team I’d worry less about pitcher pickoffs and more about pitcher mechanical techniques to keep the runner guessing |
10:43 |
: I’m always reminded of Chris Tillman, who has only two career pickoffs, but also just 21 career steals against, with 30 caught steals |
10:44 |
: He does a great job of preventing the runner from knowing when he’s about to go home |
10:44 |
: How many questions do you receive per question answered? |
10:44 |
: Probably like 10 or 15 |
10:44 |
: The queue is enormous |
10:45 |
: How did scouts whiff so hard on my speed and defense? |
10:45 |
: How did scouts whiff so hard on Aaron Judge’s power? |
10:46 |
: It’s funny to remember, too, how in the minors, Nolan Arenado wasn’t considered a plus defender |
10:47 |
: Here’s Eric from last November: “Bader has big-league tools. He’s a plus-plus runner from home to first, and that speed allows him to play center field competently. He has above-average bat speed and is able to turn on good velocity on the inner half, generating reliable power to his pull side.” |
10:47 |
: Bader, of course, now appears even more than competent in CF |
10:48 |
: Are you sold on the new and improved gregory polanco? |
10:48 |
: I mean, he’s basically 2016 Gregory Polanco, right? |
10:49 |
: He’s improved, but we’ve also seen this before. He’s like his 2016 self, plus 5% or whatever |
10:49 |
: Will the rise of park adjusted statistics ever bring the Rockies to an even playing field when signing free agent pitchers? |
10:50 |
: I don’t think the pitchers care about the statistics so much as they care about what it’s like to actually pitch in Colorado |
10:50 |
: No pitcher can really know how his stuff will be affected in thinner air. Makes for a nerve-wracking experience |
10:50 |
: That’s never going away |
10:51 |
: What’s your gut telling you Kershaw does this offseason? Opt in? |
10:51 |
: Really hard for me to see him opting out at this point |
10:51 |
: Should the Nationals think about approaching Soto with an extension? What would that look like? Something like, say, 10 years/150 million would be a lot of money for a teenager to turn down… |
10:52 |
: The Nationals should absolutely be trying to get Soto signed ASAP. Soto’s agent, whoever that is, should not make it easy |
10:53 |
: Soto signed with the Nationals in the first place for $1.5 million, so maybe he’s not quite so hard up for money. The Nationals are going to float numbers anyone would find hard to resist |
10:54 |
: Soto is better than what Scott Kingery was when he signed his deal |
10:55 |
: He’s better than Tim Anderson, Paul DeJong, early Salvador Perez… |
10:56 |
: Reynaldo Lopez looks like he’s working with 2 new pitches. Is he primed for a breakout next year? |
10:56 |
: Right now I don’t see a compelling reason to believe that he is |
10:57 |
: Hey Jeff, obviously writing about baseball makes you experience it in a different way than the average fan, so are you as upset about the Mariner’s fall in the wildcard standings as Editor of the Hardball Times/shark that attacks Jason Statham Meg Rowley is? |
10:58 |
: No, I think the fandom is more or less dead. It’s not so much that I don’t care about the Mariners — it’s more that, over time, I’ve come to form relationships with different people who work for different teams, and at a certain point you just want your friends to be successful |
10:59 |
: It’s no longer a one-track-minded approach to following baseball. I like some people with the A’s, so I like that they get to enjoy this |
11:00 |
: The Orioles are playing an elimination game today. |
11:00 |
: And Zach Britton won’t pitch in it! |
11:00 |
: Will Travis be replaced (and side note, he was amazing and this is sad), or was this anticipated already by the addition of Dan Szym? |
11:01 |
: No, this wasn’t anticipated, but 538 will give Travis the opportunity to just write for one dedicated place, instead of having bylines at FG, ESPN, and The Athletic. It’s just simpler |
11:01 |
: I’m going to talk to Appelman about what happens from here. It’s always good to be looking for talent |
11:01 |
: Is swinging strike % an issue if K% is kept at normal rates? Is that a sustainable approach? |
11:02 |
: Depends on the player and depends on the explanation. You always have to dig if K% and SwS% don’t agree with one another |
11:02 |
: For a pitcher, maybe it’s just a matter of good command. But for a hitter, if the whiff rate is high, I’d expect the strikeout rate to eventually follow suit |
11:03 |
: I completely forgot about the existence of Carlos Delgado until I was surfing baseball-reference today. Who is the best player today who will be largely forgotten in 15-20 years? |
11:03 |
: Eugenio Suarez |
11:03 |
: All right, I need to get rolling |
11:04 |
: So thank you everybody for hanging out, and I’m sorry for what I didn’t or couldn’t address. We’ll do it again next week at the same time, and until then, be well and have great days |
Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.
Jeff I love your thoughtful/honest answer to Daniel Carroll’s posing player question.