José Ramírez Is a Star

(Photo: Erik Drost)
More or less, the public perception of a ballplayer’s value correlates pretty strongly with the reality of that player’s value. Mike Trout, for example, is almost universally regarded as the best player in the game. The numbers bear that out. José Altuve and Kris Bryant have both won MVP awards in recent years. Their records suggest that such accolades are warranted.
That said, an examination of the FanGraphs leaderboard for WAR since 2016 — which you can examine for yourself by means of this convenient link — reveals a case where perception and reality seem to diverge. Here are the top players from same:
| Rank | Player | WAR |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Mike Trout | 19.5 |
| 2 | Mookie Betts | 16.8 |
| 3 | Kris Bryant | 16.2 |
| 4 | José Altuve | 15.4 |
| T5 | Francisco Lindor | 14.2 |
| T5 | José Ramírez | 14.2 |
You may be a more observant baseball fan than I am — or you may be from Cleveland (some people are!) — but I’m not sure that one out of every 10 reasonably aware fans would be able to say, without checking, that José Ramírez has recorded the fifth-most WAR of any hitter in the game over the last two-plus seasons. I’m not sure they would say he’s been more valuable than Josh Donaldson, Corey Seager, and Joey Votto over that span. But he has been.
I’m almost as confident that the average fan wouldn’t be able to correctly guess that Ramírez put up a 6.7 WAR season last year, which was better than everyone on that list above except for Trout and Altuve — or that Ramírez finished third in AL MVP balloting. Nor, in fact, do I think they would guess that Ramírez’s slash line over his last 1,400 or so big-league plate appearances (dating back to the beginning of the 2016 season) is a cool .312/.370/.532.
In fact, for a guy who made his major-league debut at age 20, back in 2013 (when the only other 20-and-under hitters in the league were Xander Bogaerts, Bryce Harper, Manny Machado, and Jurickson Profar) and a guy who, since the beginning of 2017, has produced the most WAR of any player in the game age 25 or under, José Enrique Ramírez doesn’t really get the national attention I’d argue he deserves. Consider, for example, this comparison of search interest by sub-region, courtesy Google Trends:
Ramírez has received greater attention in just one state — namely Ohio, where he plays half his games. In multiple states (South Dakota, Vermont, Wyoming) Ramírez basically doesn’t even register as an entity. (Notably, the state in which Trout is most popular by this measure isn’t California, but actually New Jersey.)
This, of course, isn’t to argue that people shouldn’t properly celebrate Trout. They should — and, in the opinion of this writer, he should be an even bigger star than he already is. But I think Ramírez (among others) should be up there with him, and he’s not. Why? Well, that requires going back in time a little bit.
When Ramírez came into the league, his profile — insofar as he had one — was that of a fast kid with a decent glove, merely decent arm, and a could-be-above-average hit tool. Our own 2014 profile suggested he would likely amount to a “utility guy/pinch runner” while BP never placed him on a top-101 list. He certainly wasn’t someone with any power — or, for that matter, any expectations of it. Coming into his debut season in 2013, Ramírez had hit exactly seven (7) home runs over more than 1,000 minor-league plate appearances, and he was then and remains now 5-foot-9, if you’re feeling charitable. It seemed reasonable to assume, in those pre-Altuve days, that a power game wasn’t in his future.
And so, for the first few years of his career, evaluations tended to emphasize the fact that he wasn’t stealing quite as many bases as he’d been expected to (29 between two levels in 2014, but with only a 71% success rate) and that his arm wasn’t quite as strong as you’d like from a shortstop. But, hey, the Indians weren’t worried — they had a kid named Frankie Lindor coming up the ranks, and so perhaps this Ramírez fella would be best suited for a utility role.
But then in 2015, Ramírez hit six home runs in just 355 plate appearances and added 14 doubles to boot, all the while getting playing time at second base, third base, shortstop, left field, and DH. That was enough to get him regular playing time in 2016, and that’s when he really took off. As Eno Sarris noted for this site in early 2017, Ramírez, in 2016, both (a) raised his launch angle into the “line drive” range (15-25 degrees) and (b) raised his launch angle the most, among players whose average newly fell into that same range. Due to that adjustment, Ramírez became an awful lot more likely for power (60 extra-base hits in 2016, up from 23 in 2015, and on the road to 91 in 2017).
Since then, the trends that drove his breakout have either stayed constant or accelerated. Ramírez still makes contact upwards of 87% of the time overall — in fact, he’s at 90% exactly this year — but as pitchers have (understandably) stopped throwing him quite as many fastballs (down to about 52%, after sitting near 65% for his first four years in the league) and pitches in the zone (down below 40%, after sitting near 45%), he’s both stopped swinging as much outside the zone — even after adjusting for the reduced number of pitches he sees there — and started making more contact with pitches inside the zone. In fact, just one qualified hitter can say they do better than Ramírez’s 95.3% contact rate inside the zone, and of the players above 90% only one (Mookie Betts, .412) is even within 100 points of Ramírez’s .313 ISO.
There are no hitters, in other words — Betts and Trout, both of whom have more power, are perhaps the closest, and I’m not here to argue he’s better than they are — who have exactly Ramírez’s combination of elite plate discipline and consistent power. No other player, either, has so dramatically reduced their strikeouts (from 10.7% last year to 9.3% this year) while also increasing their walks (from 8.1% to 12.2%). This pair of sentences amazes me: last year, Ramírez produced 6.7 WAR and struck out more often than he walked. This year, everything about his power numbers has stayed the same except that now he’s walked more often than he’s struck out, and is giving himself more opportunities to exercise that newfound power. Those aren’t things merely good players do. Those are things superstars do.
Jeff Sullivan recently noted that Mike Trout is impossible, because he was already incredibly good and somehow got better, by doing less of the things that made him weak and more of the things that made him strong. Over the last five years, José Ramírez has done much the same. He’s flown under the radar a bit, because he’s not even the best young infielder on his team (Lindor) or even clearly the second-best player on his team (Corey Kluber would like a word). And he’s stayed hidden because he tends to start slow (his first-half numbers are consistently worse than his second-half figures) and so misses out on a lot of midseason attention, last year’s All-Star appearance notwithstanding. And he’s stayed hidden because he never had that first burst of press that other 20-year-old debutantes have enjoyed.
It’s time for Ramírez to step into the spotlight. He isn’t just one of the best young players in the game–though he is that, too–he’s one of the best players in the game, period. He’s an exemplar of everything the modern game says it values and a model of continuous improvement to boot. There’s no reason he shouldn’t get the press than Frankie Lindor gets, and there’s no reason he shouldn’t be in the conversation for AL MVP again this year, too. José Ramírez has arrived, now, and it’s time to start paying close attention. Not many can do what he does.
Rian Watt is a contributor to FanGraphs based in Seattle. His work has appeared at Vice, Baseball Prospectus, The Athletic, FiveThirtyEight, and some other places too. By day, he works with communities around the world to end homelessness.
Not only is he a star, his hall of fame chances are probably higher than you think!
But that name……”Jose Ramirez”.
Sounds like an Alt-Right meme.
“since the beginning of 2017, [Jose Ramirez] has produced the most WAR of any player in the game age 25 or under — yes, including Mike Trout”
I think this comparison is pretty misleading considering Trout is 26 years old now. you’re comparing 1 (injury shortened) season from Trout to about 1.25 seasons from Ramirez. Obviously Ramirez is very good and young but I think this detracts from the point.
That’s fair! I removed the parenthetical about Trout, because the overall point can be made without it. Thanks for flagging.
By all rights, this team should be winning all the time. They have two of the best position players in the game (arguably two of the top 10), one of the best rotations in baseball, and play in a terrible division. And somehow, they’re hovering around .500. Some of it is bad luck (according to BaseRuns) but they are just getting atrocious offensive production from everyone except Ramirez, Lindor, Brantley, Gomez, and Naquin (the last two of whom have totally unsustainable BABIPs). This team is screaming out for upgrades at the deadline.
Maybe in (over)due time, Alonso and Edwin will serve as upgrades?
(FWIW) xwOBA has Alonso at .391 and Edwin at .350. Edwin has begun to look his age (35) though. So maybe that .350 is optimistic.
You can imagine that some subset of Encarnacion, Alonso, Zimmer, Kipnis, and Chisenhall will straighten themselves out. I think what this shows us is that the team has a lot less room for error on offense than it thought.
Kipnis’s BABIP is due for positive regression, but the erosion of his power is troubling, and the speed looks to be dramatically reduced, as well.
Is it time for Yandy Diaz at third and Ramirez at second?
Would at least like to see Kipnis get the hell out of the 2 hole. He has had way too long of a leash batting in the top half of the lineup. Put him 7th or lower please, so that the Indians can stop having him kill rallies.Hasn’t been a positive hitter since 2016.
A lot less room for error than they thought? You mentioned five guys doing terrible. How many teams have that much margin for error?
This would suggest to me that the underlying “true production” level is waaaaay less than we would have thought pre-season.
Put another way: Some of this is error/SSS stuff. Probably not all of it…in a worst case scenario, potentially not even most of it. The rest is that these guys just aren’t as good as we thought.
Machado has been getting a lot of play, but I wonder if Donaldson is the dark horse candidate here. There is the CLE-TOR FO connection there too. Unfortunately, the Tribe (IMO) needs an OF too. Doesn’t have to be great–I maintain Adam Jones would do–but most anything would be an improvement over what they’re running out there on a daily basis now. I like Allen a lot, but he may not yet be ready for F/T MLB duty.
I maintain that Jay Bruce should be traded from the Mets to Cleveland in back-to-back years. Either that or they should try and get Nimmo, since the Mets don’t seem to appreciate him.
The 1,2,3 of Lindor, Brantley, JRam is so much fun to watch everyday.
Makes you wonder why it took so long to move Kipnis out of the two hole.
I’m not sure what that “Interest by subregion” map is supposed to tell you. Yes, José Ramírez is a star, but you should still be more interested in Mike Trout than José Ramírez regardless.
Agreed. A comparison to Josh Donaldson or Corey Seager, who were mentioned earlier in the piece, might make the point more strongly.
Exactly.
“But I think Ramírez (among others) should be up there with [Trout]”
is a sentence I vehemently disagree with.
When Trout was Ramirez’s current age, he had just put up five consecutive seasons of 8+ war.
Guess how many 7+ war seasons Ramirez has?
Trout is way, way better! But surely baseball has room for more than one star, right?
Yes. But there is still no reason to be more interested in Ramirez than in Trout, unless you’re an Indians fan.
Sure. But you are changing the goalpost here.
Does Ramirez deserve to be a star? Absolutely.
Does Ramirez belong ‘up there’ with Trout? No.
Just like I wouldn’t say that Anthony Davis should be up there with Lebron or that Salah should be up there with Ronaldo simply because they’ve all had star level performances for the past couple of years.
It is one thing to point out how great Ramirez had been.
However, you seem to want to make a point about how he is less popular than he should be and I don’t see much support for that in the article.
Are people really overlooking a player who was rightly voted 3rd for MVP several months ago?
I guess it depends on what you mean by ‘up there,’ but I certainly agree that Ramírez and Trout are not the same caliber of baseball player.
My point in writing this article was to suggest that Ramírez is, however, one of a relatively small number (perhaps 15-20?) of elite players, and does not appear to receive national coverage or interest commensurate with that status.
That final point (relative coverage) is difficult to prove with any certainty because it’s difficult to pin down the terms, and so I can see a fair case that the article does not prove it with a particularly high level of certainty.
Given that, I’d be perfectly happy if the article was only read as “Ramírez is very good.”
The point is simply that you are using a really lousy way to illustrate it. It’s like saying that someone is underpaid, and then trying to illustrate it by comparing that person’s net worth to Bill Gates.
Did you not at all consider the accompanying visual as being a bit tongue-in-cheek in its extreme nature? Because you should have.
I think making the point that Ramirez is a star (or elite) is the important part. If you wanted to show interest/recognition, Q scores would be the way to go.
Unfortunately, it looks like you have to pay for them.
I think the point is that he doesn’t get the respect and love he deserves (nationally). But, to be fair, Ross (ESPN) fawned over him in one of the games he covered this year. Even there though, he admitted that going into the WS the Cubs thought JRAM would be an easy out. Considering how much love guys like Seager (C), Pedroia, etc. do get/have received, I think it’s fair to say JRAM gets overlooked. He’s definitely a top 10 position player in the league right now (best fWAR 3B last I checked), and playing under one of the bestcontracts (in terms of team value).
An article could shell out for an internet poll on what random people think about some players — objective data about who’s underrated, and we can stop having the “No way, everybody knows he’s underrated now” debates.
José Ramírez is a GOD!
Who doesn’t know that Jose Ramirez is a top star?
Low quality article IMO, seemingly written for a low information audience. No serious data analysis other than a WAR leaderboard. The Trout-v-Ramirez map is tongue-in-cheek hopefully.
There are plenty of high performers who have not received much notice as yet, but Jose Ramirez isn’t one of them.
Yes he is
you are literally the most annoying, negative, and sad commenter I have encountered on this site. seriously.. who hurt you? please stop. just stop
Ha, have you not met the Phillies AEC guy?
or Johnforthegiants (or whatever his username was… something like that)
In case Eric trolls the comment section of other people’s articles: I don’t think I can recall ever seeing a prospect grade with more game power than raw power. If you were to grade Jose Ramirez, current superstar, as a prospect, would he be an example of someone with more game power than raw power? Ditto Ozzie Albies.
Ender Inciarte maybe, as well? (at least this year and last year)
Call me crazy but I see a similar sneaky breakout coming for Max Kepler…guy floated around on prospect lists but not high enough to be buzzy, had a couple ‘ok’ seasons, but he’s got Ramirez’s elite plate discipline numbers, great batted ball profile, and 30 HR potential, plus can steal some bases. I think the breakout may already be more obviously here if not for his undeservedly low BABIP.
they actually play more than half their games in ohio, since they play the reds either 2 or 3 times in cincy. just saying. 🙂
The other reason Ramirez should be a star is that he is amazingly fun to watch. He has a compact frame combined with an unwavering Napoleon complex. The guy oozes swagger and gives full effort 100% of the time with his helmet flying all over the base paths.
He is the type of player that MLB should be marketing to the point of being a household name.
Ramirez is sure making most scouts look stupid. The consensus take was that of a utility INF.
The closest thing to Ramirez in the minors is Luis Urias, who was underrated too by the same experts.
It’s the height, man. Scouts hate dudes under 6 feet tall as they falsely believe it limits their ceiling, sabermetrics be damned. Mookie was another…
Just a few nits to pick:
“No other player, either, has so dramatically reduced their strikeouts (from 10.7% last year to 9.3% this year) while also increasing their walks (from 8.1% to 12.2%).”
Manny Machado dropped his K% from 16.7% to 12.7% and raised his BB% from 7.2% to 12.7%. Schwarber went from 30.9% to 22.3% and 12.1% to 16.9%. I’m sure there are others, as well. I don’t *think* I’m misreading the statement, but maybe I am.
“And he’s stayed hidden because he tends to start slow (his first-half numbers are consistently worse than his second-half figures) and so misses out on a lot of midseason attention, last year’s All-Star appearance notwithstanding.”
He’s had two full seasons in the big leagues, and he was better in the 1st half in 2017. Even if you include his abbreviated 97 game 2015, I’d hardly call 2/3 “consistently worse.” Given the level of predictive power between season halves, I just don’t think this point does much for me.
Not trying to be a dick, just offering up some (hopefully) constructive criticism.
He has been a star since 2016. Are we back there again?
Why would you consider it notable that New Jersey is a hotbed of interest in Mike Trout? It’s where he’s FROM, fercryin’outloud!
I agree! He is a superstar!