Justin Upton’s Future Value

With Kevin Towers back at the helm of a Major League franchise, we can be assured of one thing – he’ll create enough trade rumors to keep Tim Dierkes busy for life. If loose lips really did sink ships, Towers could take out an armada in a matter of minutes. Today’s rumor du jour is that the Diamondbacks will be willing to listen to calls for young right fielder Justin Upton. In reality, most every GM is willing to listen to calls for most every player on their roster, so this probably doesn’t mean anything. But, just for fun, let’s figure out what Upton might be worth if Arizona really did put him on the market.

Every discussion has to start with his age. He turned 23 in August, so most organizations still have highly regarded prospects older than he is, and yet, he’s already accumulated +7.7 WAR in what amounts to about three big league seasons. Even with his step back in 2010, he was an above major league right fielder at a time when most kids his age are trying to prove themselves in Double-A.

So, while we can dissect Upton’s strengths and weaknesses based on his big league performance to date, we have to keep his youth in mind. Most players who get to the big leagues as quickly as Upton turn out to be very good players, or even superstars. His potential is obvious.

However, there is a gap between what Upton could be and what he currently is. His blend of power and athleticism has allowed him to succeed despite a lack of contact, but if he’s going to make the leap to the next level, he’s going to have to figure out how to stop striking out so often. In fact, Upton is the only player in major league history to strike out 400 times by the end of his age 22 season.

Even if you lower the bar too 300 strikeouts at this point in a career, only Jose Canseco whiffed with anything approaching the same consistency – 24.6 percent of his plate appearances resulted in strikeouts, still trailing the 25.9 percent mark set by Upton so far. If you drop down to 200 strikeouts, you finally find three players with a higher strikeout rate than Justin Upton through age 22 – his brother B.J (26.3%), Sammy Sosa (26.3%), and Reggie Jackson (29.0%).

Those comparisons are a bit of a mixed bag. Canseco and Sosa have obvious clouds hanging over their heads, while the elder Upton hasn’t turned into the player that Tampa Bay was hoping for as of yet. Jackson is the guy who offers hope, as he got his contact problems under control in his mid-20s and developed into one of the best sluggers of all time.

Trading for Upton comes with a huge potential payoff, but reaching superstar status now looks a little less likely than it did a year or two ago. So, while a team acquiring Upton could hope for a big return, they’d also have to keep in mind that he might end up settling in as a good-not-great player. Let’s look at both scenarios and his estimated value for both over the next five years.

Good Player, Not A Superstar

2011 – +3.5 WAR, $17.5 million value, $4.25 million salary
2012 – +4.0 WAR, $20.8 million value, $6.75 million salary
2013 – +4.5 WAR, $24.8 million value, $9.75 million salary
2014 – +4.5 WAR, $25.7 million value, $14.25 million salary
2015 – +5.0 WAR, $30.0 million value, $14.5 million salary

Total: +21.5 WAR, $118.7 million value, $49.5 million salary

That puts Upton at about $70 million in surplus value over what his contract will pay him between 2011 and 2015.

Upton Becomes Elite

2011 – +4.5 WAR, $22.5 million value, $4.25 million salary
2012 – +5.0 WAR, $26.0 million value, $6.75 million salary
2013 – +5.5 WAR, $30.25 million value, $9.75 million salary
2014 – +6.0 WAR, $34.25 million value, $14.25 million salary
2015 – +6.5 WAR, $39.0 million value, $14.5 million salary

Total: +27.5 WAR, $152.0 million value, $49.5 million salary

In the best case scenario outcome, Upton is worth over $100 million beyond what he’ll be paid by the time he reaches free agency. This is the Reggie Jackson payoff, essentially. And this is why every team in baseball will at least be exploring whether Upton is priced to move or not.

These are not the only two outcomes, of course. He could regress (ZIPS lists his number one comparison as Danny Tartabull, for instance) or get injured. My expectations of continued salary inflation over the next five years could be wildly wrong. Teams will have to look at the broad spectrum of possible returns if they give up the farm to get Upton. However, given that he’s already a good player and wouldn’t need to improve much to be worth well more than his contract, and that he offers the upside to be among the best values in the game, the market for Upton is likely to be overflowing with interested teams.

And in the end, I expect Arizona will come to the realization that they should probably just hang onto their young right fielder.





Dave is the Managing Editor of FanGraphs.

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bsally
13 years ago

Where’s his best fit? Strikes me that the Braves have to be up there. They’ve got the young pitching and could always move Heyward to CF. I’d prefer they go out and trade for Rasmus, but a package of Delgado, Minor, and Infante has to be a decent starting point if the D’Backs are really that down on him, right?

JT Grace
13 years ago
Reply to  Dave Cameron

If the DBacks wanted Hanson, Freeman AND Teheran then the answer would be a definite NO from the Braves. I try to be a realistic Braves fan but that seems way too much to me. Delgado and Minor are both A prospects. Minor is a major league ready strikeout throwing lefty. Calling him “decent” is a bit of an undersell. As for Hanson I would rate him as being equal to Upton (or only slightly less in value).

I think something along the lines of Jurrjens, Teheran, and Salcedo would be a good start.

Brent
13 years ago
Reply to  Dave Cameron

Hanson alone has a similar value as the low end for Upton. Hanson was a 4.5 win player last year and has 4 years of team control left, one of which is at league minimum. There is no way they package Hanson with either of those two players, let alone both of them. A cost controlled “ace”, a top-5 prospect, and a top 30 prospect would an absurd amount of value for any one player.

I don’t think the Braves even entertain the idea of trading Hanson, who is too much a part of their 2011 plans. But I don’t see this happening without one of Freeman or Teheran, plus a couple of the other highly touted arms in the Braves system.

Tony
13 years ago
Reply to  Dave Cameron

How about… Grienke and one of thier prospects?

Anon21
13 years ago
Reply to  Dave Cameron

Ok…and the Snakes could ASK the Nats for Bryce Harper and Stephen Strasburg, but in both cases, the conclusion would be the same: they have no interest in moving Upton.

JH
13 years ago
Reply to  Dave Cameron

“Delgado and Minor are both A prospects.”

No they aren’t.

BIP
13 years ago
Reply to  Dave Cameron

:Hanson alone has a similar value as the low end for Upton.”

No he doesn’t. Pitchers are incredibly volatile.

NickC
13 years ago
Reply to  Dave Cameron

JH, John Sickels has preliminary grades as Minor as an A- and Delgado as a B+ with both guys having the potential to be #2 starters.

They’re both plenty good.

JH
13 years ago
Reply to  Dave Cameron

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe neither A- or B+ is the same as “A.”

Nitram Odarp
13 years ago
Reply to  Dave Cameron

@ Dave Cameron

You’re suggestion is just as ridiculous as bsally’s, just in the opposite direction. A deal centered around either Hanson or Teheran would probably be a reasonable starting point. Obviously a lot more would need to be added, but that would be an incredibly strong start. On one hand you’ve got 5 years of team control over a SP that just went for 4.3 WAR and looks like as good of a bet as a young pitcher can be for being durable (~170 IP including AFL in 2008, 190+ in 2009, 200+ in 2010 without any noticeable ill affects). On the other hand you’ve got one of the top 3 SP prospects in baseball. Upton’s a hell of a player, but you don’t trade both of those guys, along with a highly regarded prospect like Freeman, and other pieces with value for him.

Something that might make since for both sides could be Hanson, Minor, Vizcaino, and a lottery ticket like Schafer or Bethancourt. Or if they want all upside, something like Teheran, Delgado, Carlos Perez (currently shooting up prospect lists; #1 Appy League prospect according to BA), and some other solid pieces. If the Dbacks like some of those particular guys, those deals make sense value wise. If their scouts aren’t high on them, then the Braves probably aren’t a match anyway.

Josh
13 years ago
Reply to  Dave Cameron

That package is laughable, no one in their right mind would do that….2 projected #1 starting pitchers + a highly rated 1B prospect + someone else…wow. Even the guy below has a crazy offer Jurrjens is a cost controlled SP that has proven to be quite good + the #1 Braves pitching prospect + a highly touted and sought after SS prospect.

I wouldn’t touch Upton if this is the price tag you guys are thinking.

Steve
13 years ago
Reply to  bsally

Brent,

To take it even further, there’s no way the Braves are getting rid of Freeman. They have no other options at 1B and making one huge hole to fill another makes absolutely no sense.

Brent
13 years ago
Reply to  Steve

Agreed, though Freeman is more replaceable at least in the short term, as there are some decent 1B values on the FA market, including Derrek Lee who everyone on the Braves seemed to really like.

Tony
13 years ago
Reply to  Steve

and it is much harder to find a slugging first baseman than it is a young All-Star RF’er?

NickC
13 years ago
Reply to  Steve

It is for the Braves. This will be the 11th or 12th season in a row where they’ve had a different 1B on Opening Day.

chuckb
13 years ago
Reply to  Steve

My guess is that the Braves would be quite content to part w/ Freeman in a package to acquire Justin Upton. First basemen are much more fungible than guys with Upton’s potential.

phoenix
13 years ago
Reply to  bsally

braves have the pitching depth, but they already traded omar infante for uggla. they need the offense more than their pitching depth though, so trading for upton can help. he does need to stop K-ing so much, though. an outfield featuring heyward and justin upton would be an incredibly talented, young, and affordable outfield.

bsally
13 years ago
Reply to  bsally

Oh wow, I feel like an idiot. I can’t believe I typed Infante, I meant Teheran.

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13 years ago
Reply to  bsally

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