Let Him Play

I got asked the question in my chat this week. Dave also got asked it in his. What do you do to solve Byron Buxton’s problems at the plate? This is essentially the question. People want to know. The answer, to me, is you let him play. It seems that we get these questions each April about a phenom struggling in his first taste of a full major league season. So while I’m writing this piece with Buxton in mind and as the lead example, it is also sort of universal.

I want to start by going back to 2006 and 2007. Dustin Pedroia was the first pick of the Red Sox’s 2004 draft, though he was actually a second-round pick. He came into the 2006 season with a little heat — Baseball America ranked him #77 in their top 100. And he would do well at Pawtucket that season — he hit .305/.384/.426 there, good for a 131 wRC+, in 493 plate appearances for Boston’s Triple-A affiliate. But when he was called up to the Show in late August, he was a shadow of that player. In 98 PA with the big club, he hit .191/.258/.303, good for a lowly 41 wRC+. Not great. Baseball America dropped him from their top 100 heading into 2007.

Nevertheless, heading into the 2007 season, manager Terry Francona named Pedroia his starting second baseman. The move would quickly become unpopular. Pedroia would tally 55 PA in April 2007, and in them he hit .182/.308/.236, which equated to a 51 wRC+. Many in Boston were howling for him to be replaced, demoted, sacrificed at the feet of the Paul Revere statue, etc. But you could see Pedroia putting it together. For the month, he had drawn 10 walks and only struck out six times. In May, he would reward his manager’s loyalty. From May 3 to May 9, he would reach base in 12 of 19 PA — six singles, three doubles, two walks and a homer. For the month, he’d post a 186 wRC+. Six months later, he’d be a World Series champion and the American League Rookie of the Year.

A month after Pedroia was crowned Al RoY, Carlos Gonzalez was part of a parcel of prospects sent from Arizona to Oakland in exchange for pitcher Dan Haren. He would get the call to the majors at the end of May, and for the next three months he started in the A’s outfield — mostly in center, but a little in right. And for those three months, he hit terribly. From the time of his call-up to August 27, when he was mercifully (or cruelly, depending on your point of view) sent back to the minors, he hit .240/.271/.364 in 296 PA, which equaled a 67 wRC+. In that timespan, he hit just 4 homers. He walked in just 4.1% of his PAs, and struck out in 25.7% of them. That’s probably not a jarring strikeout rate to you these days, but in 2008, it was abhorrent. Among those who tallied 300+ PA in 2008, Gonzalez’s K% was the 20th-worst. (For context, the same K% with the same parameters would have only been 44th worst last season.)

Gonzalez would be back in the majors by mid-September, presumably because the minor league season was over by then, but he didn’t get as much to do. Four times he entered a game as a pinch hitter, and he tallied just 20 PA between Sept. 18 and the end of the season. He would post the same disappointing 67 wRC+.

A month and change later, the A’s would ship him off to the Rockies in a package for Matt Holliday. The cycle of the previous season would repeat itself, with Gonzalez getting the call to the majors at the beginning of June 2009. And once again, he was terrible. He posted a 48 wRC+ for the month of June. That was a tumultuous month for the Rockies. After the team stumbled to an 18-28 record at the end of May, the team jettisoned manager Clint Hurdle in favor of Jim Tracy, and immediately took off. They went 21-7 in June, and when July rolled around, they were suddenly 41-37, and once again harboring playoff aspirations. And their phenom outfielder was hitting .210. What would you do?

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Well, it wasn’t exactly clean, because in Ryan Spilborghs, Dexter Fowler, Seth Smith and Brad Hawpe, the team already had four outfielders who commanded their fair share of playing time. But despite that quartet, they kept running Gonzalez out there. From July 1 through Aug. 29, he started 28 of the team’s 53 games, and he played in 14 of the games he didn’t start, which was more than he deserved given his shoddy performance to date and the solid players already in the team’s outfield. But in that time, he took off. He racked up 128 PA, and hit .336/.405/.645, good for a 159 wRC+ that earned him the full-time job for good. He’s never looked back, and at the time, Tracy’s steady hand and patience to keep running him out there in the face of his overwhelming failures was credited as reason why. The Rockies would indeed live to see Rocktober that season, and Gonzalez was a big reason why. Despite only tallying 317 PA for the season, he was the Rockies’ fourth-most valuable position player.

These are far from the only two examples. And obviously finding an apples-to-apples comparison is hard to find. That’s baseball. You can’t always find a perfect comparison for things, but you don’t need a perfect comparison for the comparison to be instructive. In these two examples, we have players who were given ample time to fail, and with that time, they eventually succeeded. The same was true of Jackie Bradley Jr. He fell on his face in his 2013 trial, when he was rushed to the bigs. But in 2014, he basically got the whole season. He lost playing time in August to Mookie Betts, though that was understandable, given that Betts was an equally talented phenom, and that Bradley still wasn’t hitting. When Betts came up for good on Aug. 18, Bradley was hitting .216/.288/.290, for a 60 wRC+. Bradley never found success across this 387 PA stretch — he wouldn’t really put it together until a year later — but the point is that he was given that 387 PA stretch. You know who hasn’t had a stretch like that in the majors? Byron Buxton.

Let’s take a look at Buxton’s playing time in each of the times he’s been in the majors.

Byron Buxton, Splits by Playing Time
Season Dates PA BB% K% ISO BABIP AVG OBP SLG wOBA wRC+
2015 6/14-6/24 39 5.1% 38.5% 0.081 0.318 0.189 0.231 0.270 0.221 32
2015 8/20-10/4 99 4.0% 29.3% 0.130 0.295 0.217 0.258 0.348 0.265 62
2016 4/4-4/24 49 4.1% 49.0% 0.133 0.333 0.156 0.208 0.289 0.217 27
2016 5/31-8/5 169 6.5% 33.1% 0.118 0.306 0.204 0.257 0.322 0.252 51
2016 9/1-10/2 113 8.8% 33.6% 0.366 0.370 0.287 0.357 0.653 0.419 165
2017 4/3-4/13 35 2.9% 54.3% 0.029 0.200 0.088 0.114 0.118 0.106 -48
Total 504 6.0% 35.9% 0.167 0.314 0.210 0.263 0.377 0.276 68

While Buxton now has built up nearly a season’s worth of plate appearances, he’s done so sporadically. He’s never had the time to stretch his legs and put together a body of 250, 300 PA without being demoted. He needs that stretch now. After all, he’s still just 23. Are you really ready to give up on a 23-year-old? Pedroia was 23 when he took off in 2007. So was Gonzalez, when he took flight in 2009. Bradley wasn’t 25 until he hit his stride at the end of 2015, and there were still plenty of people doubting him heading into 2016.

But, you say — Buxton has already been good. Enough is enough, it’s time for him to show progress. Progress, however, is not always linear. Mike Cameron put up a 64 wRC+ in his age-25 season in 1998, a year after posting a 110 wRC+. After that 1998 season, the White Sox would send him off to the Reds for Paul Konerko (which is a fascinating trade for another day), and the Reds, Mariners and a host of other teams would be the beneficiaries when Cameron finally did put it all together.

Turning to the B-Ref Play Index, a search for outfielders who posted a .300 OBP or less in the first 500 PA of their career (while playing their first three seasons by the end of the their age-23 seasons) turns up plenty of names you’ll recognize: Starling Marte, Carlos Delgado, Jay Buhner, Willie Stargell, Kirk Gibson, Graig Nettles, Bernie Williams, David Justice, Bo Jackson, Frank Thomas, Jim Edmonds, Preston Wilson, Shane Victorino, Jackie Jensen, Cameron and Bradley. And that’s just outfielders. Now, not all of those players would go on to post superlative OBP’s in their careers, but they all improved, and Buxton doesn’t need to post a .380 OBP to be a great player, given his prowess in the field and on the bases.

Byron Buxton is off to a slow start this season, and for the most part, in his career. But he was a highly touted prospect for a reason, and the Twins owe it to themselves to learn from history, and just let him play.





Paul Swydan used to be the managing editor of The Hardball Times, a writer and editor for FanGraphs and a writer for Boston.com and The Boston Globe. Now, he owns The Silver Unicorn Bookstore, an independent bookstore in Acton, Mass. Follow him on Twitter @Swydan. Follow the store @SilUnicornActon.

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booj11
9 years ago

Fortunately, the man still brought his glove/legs.

southie
9 years ago

If he was blocking someone more interesting or playing for a team that wasn’t terrible I’d disagree but it’s the Twins. Give him a long leash. If by the all-star break he’s still missing balls like Andrew Miller misses bats than maybe the mercy rule applies. Until then. Let him play.

cnote66Member since 2017
9 years ago
Reply to  southie

Agreed — and Molitor hasn’t done him any favors either. Last year they brought to the majors right out of Spring and he failed (even though he had less than 60 PA’s in AAA). After sending him down, he straightened it out and ended the season hitting well in MLB. This year, Molitor bats him THIRD to start the year — no pressure there. I do agree he should play, but let the kid start out of the 8-9 hole and earn the chance to hit third. Not vice-versa.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  southie

The Twins are probably not going to go to the playoffs this year. And they don’t have anyone else who could credibly play center field and provide decent production there, so there’s no upside in the present to demote him. So unless you think his confidence is shot and he needs to regain it in AAA, there is really no reason to send him down. Let’s see what he can do here.

mike sixelMember since 2016
9 years ago

Thanks for some optimism. I’d guess the names are familiar at the end because teams didn’t give up on those guys. I’m guessing most players that hit like this don’t keep getting chances, or never get a chance. Stuff matters, in being patient, even for hitters.

DougMember since 2019
9 years ago

If you have doubts, just go look at some guy named Mike Trout’s first season stats.

victorvran
9 years ago
Reply to  Doug

Trout had an 87 wRC+ and a k’d 22% of the time vs. buxtons 68 wRC+ and 36% k rate. He also had a .247 babip vs. buxton’s .314. That has been trout’s lowest babip by ~100 points. Trout was as valuable in 135 abs as Buxton has been in his 504.

Obviously too early to give up, but Buxton’s K% is scary.

tung_twista
9 years ago
Reply to  victorvran

I think the point is being significantly worse than Trout is not the worst thing in the world.
A player 1/4 as valuable as Trout is still better than an average major leaguer.

victorvran
9 years ago
Reply to  tung_twista

So Twins fans will be happy if peak Buxton is a 2.5 win player? That’s not sarcastic, either, I’m genuinely curious what Twins fans would think about that.

drewcorbMember since 2026
9 years ago
Reply to  victorvran

As a Twins fan, I think I have the right to speak for all Twins fans. A 2.5 WAR player is something of a disappointment given Buxton’s potential at one point, but it’s also not a terrible outcome. That’s definitely useful. At this point, I’d be pleased if he turned into a consistent 2.5-3 WAR player for a while.

RoyalsFan#14321Member since 2024
9 years ago
Reply to  drewcorb

2.5WAR/year over the next five would fit right in line with the KATOH projections. As a fan, I can understand the disappoint (Hosmer sits at 5.3…) but that seems awfully useful through his pre-FA years…

Graves
9 years ago

Let him play? Sure. But don’t act like his struggles aren’t cause for major concern. No one you mentioned had Buxton’s extreme contact issues. He appears destined for mediocrity because while he can play elite defense and steal bases, if he can’t hit the ball he won’t be a superstar.

victorvran
9 years ago
Reply to  Graves

I think you touch on a pretty good point here. What is considered a failure for buxton? If he’s a defense first 2ish win outfielder that’s not the worst of outcomes, but for him, that seems like a failure. If you take the last 3 years and look at players with 450+ pa and a k%>30 and BB<9% (both ~Buxton's best) it's not a very promising outlook.
http://www.fangraphs.com/leaderssplits.aspx?splitArr=&strgroup=season&statgroup=2&startDate=2014-4-14&endDate=2017-4-13&filter=K%25%7Cgt%7C0.3,BB%25%7Clt%7C0.09,PA%7Cgt%7C450&position=B&statType=player&autoPt=true&sort=16,1&pg=0

ShauncoreMember since 2019
9 years ago

I thought, by the title only, that this was going to be about Conforto.

Regardless of that, I agree Paul, do indeed let Byron Buxton play.

chadMember since 2016
9 years ago
Reply to  Shauncore

Haha, I was hoping it was about Hwang or Park.

mike sixelMember since 2016
9 years ago
Reply to  Shauncore

so did I

JoserMember since 2021
9 years ago
Reply to  Shauncore

I thought, by the title only, that this was going to be about the Bad News Bears in Breaking Training (in the Astrodome with its original skylights, with the Astros in their perfect tequila sunrise jerseys)

RonnieDobbs
9 years ago

I don’t think anyone who watched his start to the season would actually argue that he should be in the lineup every day. When a guy is not making any progress, you should probably try something different. What is the definition of insanity again?

FrancoeursteinMember since 2025
9 years ago
Reply to  RonnieDobbs

Suggesting that you bench/demote a guy with supreme talent on a team that likely won’t contend.

dl80Member since 2026
9 years ago
Reply to  Francoeurstein

By wasting his service time and not actually helping him get better? He needs to go the minors (AA to start) and show real sustained plate discipline improvement before getting another chance. His success in the minors has mostly been high BABIP driven with still-terrible discipline.

Doorknob11
9 years ago
Reply to  RonnieDobbs

If Buxton were to keep trotting out there without doing something different then maybe you have a point. But this is the big leagues, there’s no way he’s doing that.

RonnieDobbs
9 years ago
Reply to  RonnieDobbs

Here we are a week later and no closer to a solution. I really do hope that he gets on track, but more bad reps are predictably not helping. Don’t forget to down-vote!

My old hitting instructor told me something decades ago that stuck, “they say that practice makes perfect… well, that’s bullshit. Perfect practice makes better…” If anything Buxton is just reinforcing the art of being lost at the plate.

I am truly Buxton’s #1 supporter. I would not be doing him any favors to suggest that he is on the right track though.

Jonathan Sher
9 years ago

It is a bit difficult to begin an argument with a comparison so flawed that even cursory look at the stats reveal it.

When Dustin Pedroia was called up in late August 2006, he struck out precisely as often as he walked, with 7 of each in 98 at-bats. The primary reason his triple-stat line was so poor was because he posted a BABIP of .188. If his BABIP had been at his career average, he would have had a batting average of .318. No one panicked because it was clear he was simply hitting into a lot of bad luck – his contact rate was still elite. The same happened in April 2007 when he had a BABIP of .204.

Putting aside the ill-founded comparison between Pedroia and Buxton, it is true the prior front office of the Twins mangles prospect development and Buxton was just one example. Former GM Terry Ryan essentially forced Molitor to play Sano in the outfield last year and delayed his development as a hitter by one year. Ryan has Polanco on a shuttle between AAA and Minnesota simply to plug backup roles, and did the same for a while with Max Kepler, until poor play and other factors created starting positions for them.

The hope is the new front office will manage its prospects to maximize their growth — an essential for a small market team – rather than to use them like disposable razors in the misguided belief the team will actually contend.

Two things are clear about Buxton: His contact skills and plate discipline are poor and they have been made worse because he is pressing – his swing rate at pitches out of the zone is significantly higher this year (39%) than the past two years (33%, 34%). The way Ryan used him conditioned him to failure, and I’m not sure what is the best way to undo that damage.

kenai kings
9 years ago
Reply to  Jonathan Sher

there you go.

Jason BMember since 2017
9 years ago
Reply to  Jonathan Sher

Agreed – I don’t find the first part of the article particularly compelling. Sure, we can find several examples of highly-touted players who struggled early in their careers only to turn it around, but likewise we can find just as many examples of those who struggled, continued to struggle, and busted.

I don’t know that anecdotes (even several of them) are the best way to answer the “what to do with Buxton” question…better evidence would come with a study of “with these types of early career struggles (including the super-high K%, which seems important), have highly-touted prospects been better served overall by being left in the lineup to figure it out, or sent back down to AAA?”

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
9 years ago

Buxton isn’t just another top prospect, he was THE TOP PROSPECT, the next Junior or, maybe even, the next Willie. That is why his every strikeout is the focus of so much scrutiny. Every scout has to be asking himself if he can’t cut it, then who can. It would be a lot easier if the player who is coming up short was a 55 FV, but Buxton was given a 70 in 2016. That is a %&^*$% 70 and the worst part of it that he was given a 70 hit tool. There can be little wonder why every time he swings and misses the entire industry reacts.

victorvran
9 years ago
Reply to  bosoxforlife

I know baseball America had a 70 on his hit, but Dan wasn’t that high on him last year. Hit: 45/60/65. So there were questions about hit current hit tool.

I know it’s really hard to scout eye/approach/whatever you want to call it, but I’d be curious to see what percentage of hitters that fall apart due so because of their actual hit tool vs their ability to recognize pitches.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  victorvran

That means he projected him as a 60. That 45 is his grade today (in 2015/2016 offseason). A year earlier, Kiley projected him as a 60. I think it’s safe to say that people thought he would settle in with a plus hit tool.

victorvran
9 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Yes. And he still may. This terrible buxton is, of course, the today buxton, not the fv buxton.

Of course he wasn’t supposed to be this bad at hitting, but there were also questions around him.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  victorvran

What he’s doing now–a sub-.100 BA and a sub-.050 ISO–is about a 20. That’s organizational filler. Nobody thought he was going to be this bad.

RonnieDobbs
9 years ago
Reply to  bosoxforlife

Buxton was a great prospect, but he was never the next Junior or A-rod. When he was drafted, he was not the consensus #1 overall pick like Junior or Harper were. He was always an athlete first and there were always questions about his bat. His top tools were always speed/defense. Being #1 overall doesn’t mean what you are suggesting it does. Matt Wieters was #1 overall a few years earlier. Profar was #1 overall at one point as well. Some guys, like Moncada, project to be monsters offensively. Buxton was more the high-floor type. The scrutiny is not because of his legendary prospect status, it is the legendary results which he is currently achieving.

dtpollittMember since 2016
9 years ago
witesoxfan
9 years ago

From a person whose scouting experience involves nothing more than watching TV and saying “he sure does have good stuff!”, Byron Buxton, from build to swing to athleticism, looks an awful like like Melvin Upton Jr when he was BJ Upton. And that’s not a bad thing! BJ was a star player who you could have imagined doing so, so much more, but the potential was never reached. It’s honestly not a stretch to think that Buxton is a 6-8 WAR player if he can figure out his issues at the plate, but if he peaks as a 5 WAR player and plays more as a 3 WAR player who is among the most inconsistent in the MLB, you take it, because a 3 WAR player is still hard to find, even if it is disappointing from the individual perspective.

I’ve said much the same about Yoan Moncada. He’s a 70 FV player, but there is significant “bust” potential there – quoted because I don’t see him being any less than a 2-3 WAR player – and it’s primarily related to contact issues, much the same as Buxton. That’s not a bad thing, but it’s not what you were hoping for upon acquiring him.

Jonathan Sher
9 years ago
Reply to  witesoxfan

While they might look similar wearing a baseball uniform, Upton was a very different hitter at the plate, especially his first five years, when his plate discipline was strong — he swung at pitches outside the strike zone as seldom as 14.8%, while Buxton is at nearly 40%. It’s true Upton did not have elite contact skills. It also appears that after five years, Upton sacrificed some plate discipline and contact in an effort to hit more homers. But he had excellent plate discipline almost from the get-go and that was reflected in his offensive production: He was a well-above average hitter with Tampa, producing wRC+ of 137, 116, 85, 107 and 113 his first five full seasons.

Buxton combines weak contact skills with horrid plate discipline, which can be lethally-bad for a hitter, and both of those have gotten worse over time, an indication to me that the Twins under Terry Ryan really submarined his development with yo-yo promotion practices.

White Sox fans shouldn’t be as concerned: Moncada has shown good plate discipline, and like Upton, his problem is more strictly a contact one. The bust potential should be somewhat lower.

victorvran
9 years ago
Reply to  witesoxfan

The problem with what you are saying is that buxton doesn’t look like a 3 win player with a 5 win peak. Current buxton needs a pretty significant improvement to get to that 3 win mark, let alone ever touch 5.

My scouting experience is also limited to watching games on tv, but I have made it a point to check in on as many buxton at bats as I could this year because I have been curious about him. If you watch those, it really looks like he has no pitch recognition ability.

This could all just be him pressing too much. Or this could be a very real, very fatal flaw in his game that threatens to make him more of a 4th of/pinch runner than even that 3 win floor you mention.

dl80Member since 2026
9 years ago

I’m going to keep saying it: Buxton’s AAA “success” was a mirage built on an unsustainable BABIP. He’s never shown even passable plate discipline above AA, and that was for less than half a season.

He needs to go down to AA and focus solely on pitch recognition and patience. Then he can go to AAA and do the same. He’s got no business in the majors until he improves.

If he improves in the majors to the point where his plate discipline is as “good” as it was in AAA (a pretty tall order), he’s still not going to be hitting.

He needs to improve his plate discipline beyond what it was in AAA, something few hitters can do in the majors. He’s not learning anything right now.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
9 years ago

Buxton’s K-rates in the minors weren’t that bad for a while, hovering around 20%. Not great, but not a major red flag either. But it was much higher last year was in AAA (27%), after he had been with the parent club for a little while the previous year. I don’t know what to make of that, if anything, but it does seem like something changed and it wasn’t good.

The Ghost of Johnny Dickshot
9 years ago

The thing is I just don’t remember a recent struggling prospect who from at bat to at bat (and almost pitch to pitch) does something different with his legs/feet.

RainmakerMember since 2016
9 years ago

As a Twins fan myself, I wonder how much of Buxton’s developmental issues are a result of their tampering with him. I think Eno’s documented at least a couple areas where the Twins pushed Buxton to make a change before he was called up, and clearly seems like those changes backfireed. At a certain point, Buxton started making his own changes to attempt to salvage his career…..and it worked for a bit last season…..but now that he’s off the rails again, I’m not sure where he can turn? I wouldn’t trust the Twins staff at this point. Just feels like he’s lost with nowhere to look for help.

So for me, I say play him. Play him constantly without rest. I think you tell the guy he’s the starting CF no matter how he hits, he eventually stops pressing and you see what he’s got.

brooklynbergerMember since 2018
9 years ago

Career 35.9% K% is not going to play. Your example, Pedroia, had a 9.2% K rate and a 15.4% BB rate in April 2007. Before you bring up September of 2016, keep in mind that much like March numbers, September numbers can be deceiving, but even then, his 33.6% K rate is too much. Buxton looks overwhelmed.