Let’s Fix MLB’s Suspension System

Late Thursday afternoon, Major League Baseball announced it was suspending Yordano Ventura for nine games, and Manny Machado for four games, for their respective involvement in Tuesday night’s brawl between the Kansas City Royals and Baltimore Orioles. As is often the case in these situations, many quickly criticized the seemingly lax punishment doled out to Ventura in particular, who will effectively miss only a single start despite having similarly instigated fights on several prior occasions. Indeed, on Wednesday, FanGraphs’ own Dave Cameron had called for Ventura to be suspended for 30 games due to his status as a repeat violator.

Even if MLB wanted to throw the book at Ventura in this case, though, its hands were largely tied. As I’ve previously noted, under Article XII of MLB’s collective bargaining agreement, any disciplinary action that the league takes against a player for on-field conduct must be based on “just cause.” Not only does this standard require that the punishment fit the crime, but also — perhaps more importantly here — that the disciplinary action be consistent with prior penalties doled out by the league for similar conduct.

This presented a problem for MLB in Ventura’s case because pitchers who were previously found to have intentionally thrown at a batter have historically only faced a suspension somewhere on the order of seven to 10 games. While MLB may have been able to justify suspending Ventura a bit longer than that, given his repeat-offender status, any suspension of much more than 12 or 13 games may very well have been overturned by an arbitrator on appeal.

This means that even if MLB would like to take greater steps to crack down on beanballs, it will be hard pressed to do so without the approval of the Major League Baseball Players Association.

While it’s true that the union has been willing to work with MLB to devise new punishment scales for performance-enhancing-drug use and domestic violence in recent years, it’s uncertain whether a majority of the union’s membership would be amenable to doing the same for pitchers who intentionally target batters. While some players — including Josh Donaldson — have certainly encouraged the league to do more to crack down on beanballs, other players would undoubtedly prefer to continue to police such conduct themselves on the playing field.

Even if a majority of players did support such a change in theory, however, it may be difficult for the MLBPA to reach a suitable agreement with the league on the matter, as the question of how to fairly but effectively punish starting pitchers in these cases presents something of a challenge for MLB and the union.

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Because starting pitchers only pitch once every five games, a suspension of anything less than 10 games realistically means that the pitcher will usually miss at most a single start. To many fans, this often makes a suspension imposed on a starting pitcher appear to be quite lax compared to those for position players or relief pitchers, who are much more directly impacted by each game they are forced to sit out.

At the same time, though, because most starting pitchers are only expected to start around 30 games per year, the loss of a single start obviously deprives a pitcher of a much greater percentage of his anticipated yearly playing time than does a single game for a position player or relief pitcher. In this respect, then, a one-start suspension for a starting pitcher really equates to a roughly five-game suspension for a position player, in terms of the share of each player’s annual expected playing time missed.

Nevertheless, a suspension costing a pitcher only a single start is often viewed as being insufficient in the eyes of many in cases such as this where a pitcher appears to have intentionally targeted and hit a batter.

One obvious alternative, then, would be to simply increase the length of a starting pitcher’s suspension in order to ensure that he misses what would be viewed as a sufficient number of starts. This option presents its own problems, however.

Because all MLB suspensions are unpaid, merely increasing the length of the suspension for a starting pitcher will have a disproportionate financial impact on the suspended pitcher. For instance, in order to force Yordano Ventura to miss an equivalent number of starts (four) as games that Manny Machado will sit-out during his own suspension, MLB likely would have had to suspend Ventura for at least 20 games.

This would mean that while Machado’s four-game suspension will only cost him around two percent of his annual salary, an analogous four-start/20-game suspension for Ventura would result in a loss of around 12 percent of his 2016 income. So even if the MLBPA was on-board with increasing the potential punishment for beanballs in theory, the union would likely be reluctant to agree to a new punishment scale that could force starting pitchers to lose such a disproportionate share of their annual salary compared to other players.

One way in which MLB and the union could alleviate this concern would be to agree to withhold only a portion of a starting pitcher’s salary during a suspension for on-field conduct. By only docking a starting pitcher, say, one-fifth of the salary he would have received during the course of a suspension, the league could satisfy those clamoring to see pitchers suspended for a greater number of starts while at the same time ensuring that the financial effects of such a suspension are roughly equivalent for starting pitchers as for other players.

Of course, if one believes that lost salary — rather than missed games — provides the greatest deterrent effect for players, then allowing pitchers to retain an equivalent share of their salaries while serving a suspension may do little to curb the rate of beanballs. So MLB and the union would likely have to figure out what would be the most effective, yet fair, percentage of salary to withhold from starting pitchers during the course of a suspension.

Regardless of the exact percentage, though, this sort of system would allow MLB to impose more meaningful suspensions on starting pitchers who intentionally hit batters, while at the same time accommodating the union’s likely concerns over the disproportionate financial impact that significantly longer suspensions would have on starting pitchers under the current system.





Nathaniel Grow is an Associate Professor of Business Law and Ethics and the Yormark Family Director of the Sports Industry Workshop at Indiana University's Kelley School of Business. He is the author of Baseball on Trial: The Origin of Baseball's Antitrust Exemption, as well as a number of sports-related law review articles. You can follow him on Twitter @NathanielGrow. The views expressed are solely those of the author and do not express the views or opinions of Indiana University.

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Sellys
10 years ago

What about fining a hitter? I saw Machado got fined 2500 dollars or something, but what if you suspended a pitcher for 20 games, and suspended a player 10 games and fined him an amount equivalent to 10 games salary? That would make things more or less even in both playing time and salary.

noseeumMember since 2020
10 years ago

Perhaps they could formalize the punishments more and eliminate appeals? The appeals process takes a significant amount of the pain away from the punishment since an SP always appeals until his next start and drops the appeal the next day.

If instead it was a straight 7 game punishment without the possibility of appeal if a beanball is determined, then the suspension can start right away and could eliminate the gaming from appeals.

Travis LMember since 2016
10 years ago
Reply to  noseeum

I think you need an appeals process. Otherwise it’s too authoritarian.

What needs to happen is the near automatic reduction of suspensions by the process. Have a few well-defined acceptable arguements for reduction. And require the appeal to start within 3 days of the event, so players cannot delay.

jianadaren
10 years ago

Re: the financial aspect, the obvious solution is that all of a suspended player’s salary is forfeited to the union. It makes a lot more sense and solves a lot of problems compared to the current system of “the owners keep the money”.

Similarly, it would make a lot of sense if all player-safety related discipline was in the hands of the MLBPA: give the union jurisdiction over player-safety suspensions.

KCDaveInLA
10 years ago
Reply to  jianadaren

I disagree – there would be far less incentive for the union to advocate for the player if the union has any kind of financial stake, and would be a conflict of the union’s interest. The best solution is to give forfeited salary to a charity of the offending player’s team’s choice, in my opinion.

alemunger
10 years ago
Reply to  KCDaveInLA

That is a good point. However, the union’s very existence relies on the collective approval of their members. The MLBPA is very powerful, but I’m not sure they’d risk their legitimacy among the players by intentionally dismissing their concerns in the name of profit.

That being said, I’m not sure salary forfeiture to the union is the most logical idea. Ideally, the salary should be forfeited to a party that was detrimentally impacted by the event that caused the suspension. That is not the union. The owners do lose the player for the length of the suspension, but, oftentimes, a brawl may spark fan interest in the team. So the loser here is not the owners either.

The real losers are the players that should be playing in place of players that engage in activity that results in suspension. In other words, the minor leaguers. I’m not sure how this would work, but if the player’s salary was forfeited to the minor leaguers, it may provide incentive not to repeat. MLB players have consistently voted against the interests of minor leaguers, such as when they voted to increase the service time required for free agency. I doubt they’d be pleased with the prospect of their salary going to them. When salary goes to the owners, that very money could be given right back to them in their next contract negotiation. This effect is of course secondary to the fact that it would help MiLB players that are grossly underpaid (relatively speaking).

This solution may require the existence of a minor league players union, which is a prospect with massive barriers to overcome before it can be realized. But I still dream.

Matt
10 years ago

How about just get rid of suspensions altogether, and instead massively increase the fines. Also, not just have the fine based on a player’s salary. So throwing at a player would be, say, 10% of your salary plus 500k. So Ventura in this case would forfeit over half of his salary for this year. It would mean that a guy making the MLB min would essentially forfeit his entire salary for the year if the threw at a guy. A guy would literally have to “earn” the respect of the league to be able to commit a suspendable action.

I don’t really care if Machado sits out a couple games against the Padres for an infraction he committed against the Royals. You want to see the best players on the field. But if a guy loses half his yearly salary for a stupid action in one game, maybe he’ll think twice before trying it again, lest he lose the rest of his salary.

db8r_boi
10 years ago
Reply to  Matt

I don’t think this is the way to go, since the impact is disproportionate based on a person’s salary. Why should someone making $10 million only have to pay $1.5 million (15% of their salary), while someone making $2 million has to pay $700,000 (35% of their salary)? Greinke could bean someone and only have to pay about 11% of his salary. Why does landing a big contract earn you the right to bean players? Or, more appropriately, why should Greinke be able to bean 9 players without losing any money, while Thor can’t bean anyone without going $50,000 in the hole?

However, where player safety is involved, I do agree that the punishments should be draconian, and I don’t see why the MLBPA couldn’t be forced (by the PR) to get on board with measures to improve player safety. If plumber-on-plumber violence was a big issue, a plumbers union would almost certainly get on board with internal measures to prevent members from assaulting one another, so why would the Players Association be any different?

free-range turducken
10 years ago
Reply to  db8r_boi

If a plumber ever threw his wrench 99mph at another plumber, I’m sure the guy who got hit would charge the toilet, resulting in a bathroom-clearing brawl.

LHPSU
10 years ago

Or a bowel-clearing one.

shaq_diesel
10 years ago
Twitchy
10 years ago

The bigger issue is that MLB doesn’t see a problem with this violence. Odor was a repeat offender (did the exact same thing in the minors) and he got 8 games. Ventura is a repeat offender, and he got 9 games. In recent years Kennedy/Barrett got 10 games. So it’s not like MLB cares about this or is taking it seriously.

A second offence should be greater than this, and Ventura has been involved in many different fights or altercations. Beyond the pitcher/hitter play time disparity, MLB is not showing that getting into physical fights or headhunting is something they take seriously, when they should.

MLB showed they gave a damn about steroids/ped when they issued 80 game suspensions and made them ineligible to go in the playoffs. A second offence for fighting/headhunting doesn’t need to be 80 games, but it needs to be far stronger than 10 games. I agree with Dave’s 30 game idea, and as an additional deterrent, what if the repeat offender was ineligible for the post season? Between losing money, not being there for a team for a month, AND missing the playoffs, maybe players will begin to realize that these actions are not tolerated in MLB.

Arjon
10 years ago
Reply to  Twitchy

As the article points out, how much MLB cares doesn’t particularly matter since it doesn’t have the ability to impose significantly longer suspensions than it did in the past. Granted this is a problem it created or at least participated in creating for itself via past practice and the limitations it agreed to in the CBA.

Rich
10 years ago

The only quibble I have with the approach in this particular solution is the worry over equitable perception of the two suspensions. Maybe it is just because the Ventura/Machado incident is used as the catalyst, but Ventura deserves to be inequitably impacted in this case. He deserves more of the blame, and should lose more playing time/salary.

Perhaps it’s valid in general, but in the case of what happened recently, Ventura got off light.

noah2112
10 years ago

What MLB needs to do is tell the Umps to enforce Rule 8.02 (Throwing at the Batter) and give them better guidelines regarding what it is to “intentionally pitch at the batter”. Ventura and the Royals should have been issued a warning long before he hit actually hit Machado.

shaq_diesel
10 years ago
Reply to  noah2112

Warnings aren’t in the rule book though. If you think a pitch is aimed at another player, you eject immediately. You don’t issue a warning. The “warning” is given to you the day you sign your contract, and are handed the rule book.

noah2112
10 years ago
Reply to  shaq_diesel

Warnings are most definitely in the official MLB rules. Umps can even issue a warning before the game starts. Umps can also eject a point her without giving a warning.

ninetyfeetmore
10 years ago

First, we don’t know what MLB’s intentions were with these punishments. If they intended to give each player a similar punishment, then I think that they have already accomplished that…

Sure, in effect, Ventura will only miss one start, but because a starting pitcher generally has a larger impact on the game than individual position players, their suspensions are somewhat comparable.

I’d estimate that Machado will lose out on 15-20 plate appearances (he averages 4.5/game) and that Ventura will lose out on 25 batters faced (his season average). Add in Machado’s contributions on def and br and these are probably about even.

LHPSU
10 years ago
Reply to  ninetyfeetmore

The problem is that Ventura’s suspension SHOULD be twice as long as Machado’s, but in effect they are even.

Jason BMember since 2017
10 years ago
Reply to  ninetyfeetmore

Not that it should be a factor in the suspension length, but losing Ventura probably helps the Royals, as he’s been a dumpster fire this year, whereas losing Machado actually is a detriment to the Orioles.

PJB82
10 years ago

Perhaps a rabbit trail off the main topic but if you’re interested in fixing bean balls then you have to award batters more than first base when struck. I argue that if batter is struck in head he should get to advance to at least 2nd base. I would consider adding “in the judgement of the umpire the pitcher’s intent was to strike the batter” as a condition to proceed to 2nd but I hate how much umpires could then affect outcomes in close games.

ninetyfeetmore
10 years ago
Reply to  PJB82

I am infavor of having a hbp advancing all runners one base. If the ball had not hit the batter, there is a good chance that it would have been a wild pitch, so it’s not completely unreasonable.

I guess it’s not any more of a deterrent when the bases are empty (like it was in this case) but I’m okay with that. Though, correspondingly, I would want the umpires to start calling foul balls if the batter is over the plate or attempting to swing when they get hit.

LHPSU
10 years ago
Reply to  ninetyfeetmore

Actualy, if the batter swings when he get’s hit, it’s simply a strike.

Shirtless George Brett
10 years ago

As much as i like Dave Cameron as a writer his suggestion that Ventura be suspended for a month was pretty ridiculous to begin with.

Ventura is an idiot but in the grand scheme of things what has he really done? Got into a couple arguments on field (one which may or not have been equally caused by adam eaton) and hit Machado? In a two year span thats not really all that much IMHO.

If that is the bar for a 30 game suspension then we are on a very slippery slope towards draconian suspensions for relatively minor things.

By that standard Bautista should have probably gotten 2 weeks for his slide on Odor.

Jason BMember since 2017
10 years ago

At least by your user name, we can intuit that you are an impartial observer in the Ventura matter…

(Also, this comment strikes me as being akin to the letter from the Stanford swimmer’s father. “It was just 20 minutes of action, c’mon!”)

Shirtless George Brett
10 years ago
Reply to  Jason B

Comparing my comment to defending a rapist.

Yeah, thats a reasonable response.

LHPSU
10 years ago

For a starting pitcher, one start is around 1/30 of his season, which is equivalent to around 5 games for a position player. I’m not advocating that Ventura be suspended for a month, but I think it should have been at least 12 games, to ensure that he misses two starts (which would be around 10 games for a position player).

shaq_diesel
10 years ago

If a player was suspended for 20 games, would the team have to play a man down that entire time, or would you be allowed to fill that spot? What’s the cutoff? 4 games? 8 games? When a pitcher is caught with pine tar (12 or 15 games, don’t remember), that roster spot is forfeited. But when a player is suspended 50 for PED, the team is allowed to fill the players spot.

So, would the charging team be down a player for 4 games, and the throwing at team be down a player for 20?

signedepsteinsmother
10 years ago
Reply to  shaq_diesel

I never considered this part of the equation. But the roster spot is a major detriment on many levels. First and foremost is the “no I in team” and the team/player pressure that comes with it. And, it is not like a player has never been ordered to hit someone, or done so for the team. Obviously a CBA issue, but it is reasonable to expect the roster spot, as I did, is lost on suspensions. In regards to PEDs, this would be even more of a deterrent.

shaq_diesel
10 years ago

What if they kept it the same, and after appeals, the player was allowed to continue playing. The team that was thrown at then gets to choose the timing of the suspension. Kind of like WWE’s “Money in the Bank” contract. Anytime, anywhere. You know it’s coming, but you don’t know when.

So Ventura is warming up for his next start, not knowing if that call will be placed to the commissioners office by the Orioles. Probably a bad outing, knowing the next pitch could be his last. Then he makes another start, then another. 3 pitches into a crucial series, the call from the commissioner’s office finally comes, telling Ned Yost the suspension begins immediately. The Royals don’t get to plan in advance, and it kills their bullpen. It hurts the player, hurts the team, and the victimized team gets to dole out justice when they see fit.

The waiting is the hardest part.

LHPSU
10 years ago
Reply to  shaq_diesel

No, the appeal will likely be dropped the minute Ventura walks off the mound in his next start.

shaq_diesel
10 years ago
Reply to  LHPSU

Doubt it. Besides, this has nothing to do with my awesome idea. It’s like if you preimptively punch someone in “punchbuggy, no punchbacks”. Retribution is coming. The other guy gets to punch you. But you don’t know when. It ruins the trip. You won’t fall asleep on the roadtrip. No dark liquids. No sandwiches that require 2 hands.

Matt
10 years ago

I don’t see any way to change the current suspension system with regards to beanballs. In a perfect world you’d suspend offending starting pitchers for starts, not for team games. That would lessen the disproportionate financial penalties between position players and pitchers while also eliminating any potential of teams gaming the schedule and appeals process to minimize the impact on the team. I don’t see any way to accomplish that though.

What needs to be further explored is increased suspensions and fines for organizations and coaching staffs. The best way to stop beanballs is via peer pressure. If you have coaches and players telling a teammate to knock it off, they’ll knock it off quick. As of right now, players and coaches can egg on their pitchers to do something because they have no financial or competitive stake in the matter.

Instead of a 1 game automatic suspension for managers whose player is fined/ejected/suspended for a beanball, make it 3-5 games. Whatever a player loses financially from a fine or suspension (lost salary), the organization should have to match 100% of it. If a player and/or team are repeat offenders, have a set standard which escalates the fines and suspensions. Fining every player and coach who leaves the dugout/bullpen during a brawl might help as well. The punishment needs to be felt by both the player and the organization.

Will any of this happen? Of course not. MLB is too concerned with games being 10 minutes longer.

rauce1
10 years ago

Pure educated speculation but I would guess that 75% of players prefer retribution to be handled on the field and would vote against any measure that gave more of that power to the commissioner’s office.

Bobby Ayala
10 years ago

Again I am amazed that at the free pass this community gives Machado, the ignoring of any fault he may have had in this. His actions in the previous flyout AB where he stared down and barked at Ventura rather than getting his butt to first, that was as much of a catalyst as anything. If any other batter did that to any other pitcher there’d be a good chance of getting plunked the next AB, and no one here would have a problem with it.

No talk here about his suspension only being 4 games despite Machado having one of the most serious prior on-field incidences ever, (I consider throwing a bat at an opponent and pretending it was an accident to be a serious prior offense,) less than the 5 games many first-time offenders have received for their roles in brawls in the past few years. But, as I’m sure someone will point out, that “happened long ago” or something…

I suspect that if we were talking about a Daniel Descalso-type instead of someone most of you have on your fantasy teams, the conversation would be a lot different.

LHPSU
10 years ago
Reply to  Bobby Ayala

Any pitcher deserves to be penalized if they plunked a batter just because the batter barked at them. Please stop putting words in people’s mouths.

Doug LampertMember since 2016
10 years ago

In my opinion, starting pitcher suspensions should automatically have 4 days of paid suspension added to the actual suspension. That stops the “appeal till you’ve got 5 days between starts coming anyway then drop the appeal” from saving any time while at the same time not hitting pitchers harder than position players financially.

3 day suspension for anyone else, you miss three days. 3 day suspension for a starter, his next start is probably delayed three days and they both lose the same fraction of their pay.

TKDCMember since 2016
10 years ago
Reply to  Doug Lampert

This is spot on. The one issue I’d have with this is that other players often drop appeals strategically too. You could also add one extra paid suspension day for all other players. Especially for one-game suspensions.