Mariners Send Tom Wilhelmsen for Leonys Martin
The Mariners needed a center fielder after they sent Brad Miller and Austin Jackson packing over the past year. They had an extra reliever, maybe, after they acquired Joaquin Benoit from the Padres last week. And, even given all the flaws in their new (probably platoon) center fielder, it’s hard not to like such a low-risk, high-reward move. Even if you value relievers highly.
But these are the things you have to talk about when you try to evaluate the trade that sent center fielder Leonys Martin and reliever Anthony Bass to the Mariners and reliever Tom Wilhelmsen and outfielder James Jones to the Rangers.
First, the newcomer: Leonys Martin. His original contract (three years and $15.5 million) is expired, and he’s now under the Mariners’ control for three years. Given how badly his season went last year — Martin was the sixth-worst bat in baseball this year — he may not cost that much. MLBTradeRumors, using Matt Swartz’s arbitration projection work, has him down for $1.6 million this year. Tom Wilhelmsen, the pitcher they sent the Rangers, will cost $3.0 million this year.
Wins Above Replacement says that the reliever, coming off of his second-best year, was roughly equivalent to the position player, coming off of his worst season.
But that sort of analysis supposes one thing: that Martin will be good enough to continue getting 300+ plate appearances a year going forward. If his bat doesn’t improve, then all the defense in the world won’t keep him on the field in order to accrue that value.
In that case, a reliable reliever would be more valuable. Wilhelmsen seems that way, since he’s struck out nearly a batter per inning and kept his ERA near 3.0 in three out of the four years he’s been in the league.
But is it consistency without excellence? Wilhelmsen has the 106th best strikeout rate among qualified relievers since 2012. But! If you up the limit to 250 innings pitched, he zooms up the list to 14th in strikeout rate. Sitting between Kelvin Herrera and Luke Gregerson is a nice spot. It’s even better by velocity, where he’s fifth.
There are only 23 relievers that have thrown 250 innings since 2012, though. And though past good health is a good sign for future good health, putting your stock in this list of relievers to continue being healthy because they’ve been healthy for 250 innings so far seems like folly.
Either way, on that list sits Joaquin Benoit, who has had a better strikeout rate and better walk rate than Wilhelmsen over the same time period. The Mariners didn’t have an elite reliever either way, and may have felt they had some surplus between the two. Even if Benoit can’t do this.
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If Martin can hit enough to stay on the field, even in a platoon role, he should easily outproduce Wilhelmsen. His defense has been top five by UZR/150, DRS, and highlight-reel throws and leaps over the last three years.
So what happened to Martin’s bat last year? He hit career full-year worsts in walk rate, strikeout rate, ground-ball rate, hard-hit rate, soft-hit rate, line drive rate, swinging strike rate, and zone-swing rate. He couldn’t discern balls and strikes, got tentative and stopped swinging at strikes, and didn’t put the ball in play with any authority. In short, everything went wrong.
Asking him to bounce back from last year’s work to his Steamer-projected line is not actually asking a lot. That 29-point swing in weighted offense, paired with his 39-point drop the year before, would bring his total bounce to 68 points, or 144th-biggest in baseball since 1974. That bounce would be on par with what Jose Altuve did in 2014 after a poor 2013, for example. Getting the guy before the bounce-back seems ideal, and the Mariners’ Jerry Dipoto admitted as much to Ryan Divish Monday.
There isn’t a huge red flag in Martin’s batting line, other than he’s never been that good at the plate. He saw a few more fastballs last year and swung at them less, but at 28, it seems a little early to be worried about declining bat speed on the level that would finish a career. He didn’t whiff a lot more on any one pitch type — just a little more on all types.
Martin did lose a hot zone on the inside part of the plate that he enjoyed in 2014, and he did reach and swing less than he ever had before. Perhaps he just needs to be aggressive, take his lumps, and do a bit of damage on the pitches that he can handle. Not everyone is built to be disciplined at the plate.
If you’re asking the 28-year-old Leonys Martin to be decent at the plate and good with the glove, you’re not actually asking too much. Bounce backs like this have happened very often, and he’s young enough to believe he can find a little something at the plate. He’s not good against lefties, but he can solve two thirds of your center field situation, most likely.
On the other hand, Tom Wilhelmsen has put up a resume of his own. It’s not his baseball fault that “The Bartender” is 31 — he spent some time outside of the sport finding himself, and since he’s been back, he’s used his big fastball and power curve to strike guys out reliably. Still, his best foot forward is volume, and that’s a strange note to strike for a reliever, given they contribute less in volume than any other position.
Maybe this was all about team needs. With Delino Deshields here, and Lewis Brinson in the wings, the Rangers probably have center field figured out, to some extent. Jones can be a backup plan, too.
The Rangers haven’t spent a ton of assets acquiring the relievers they have, but now with Sam Dyson‘s Britton-esque sinker, Keone Kela‘s power arsenal, and Shawn Tolleson’s starting pitcher mix, they have another power arm at the back end of their bullpen.
And with a limited payroll to work with, it seems that Dipoto prefers to go and find more relievers than try to sign a center fielder. After all, he talked about being a run-prevention team, and he just acquired the best defensive center fielder they’ve seen in a while in Seattle.
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2009 wasn’t that long ago.
Agreed. Worth an edit.
2010 wasn’t a bad year for Franklin Gutierrez, aka El Guti
I have the Hot Stove all to myself!
Lets trade!
This is kind of a boring trade
At this rate, as will be the Mariners
A lot of times the under-the-radar deals end up being very important in hindsight. As an M’s fan, I like the potential for upside here.
Oh my gosh why did nobody ever tell me about that dance routine before.
The Bartender Boogie
A small tear came to my eye. I miss you, Bartender Tom.
It was a running meme at LookoutLanding for quite a while after it happened.
As a lifelong mariners fan I love this. It actually kind of reminds me of the Gutierrez trade that jackZ made before he quickly thereafter became terrible. Guti clearly had some unexpected health problems and probably had a better bat at the time than Leonis, but it’s rare to be able to grab an elite center fielder who can at least hold his own at the plate.
And zooming out, the third trade in a few weeks by DiPoto makes it clear that the rest of the league actually wants to talk to the mariners again, which is a huge relief compared to jack. Regardless of how it works out three years from now, it’s a big breath of fresh air.
El Guti had more upside. He was building up. Too bad health never accompany him
Shouldn’t we at least point out that steamer projects only a very very modest improvement?
Steamer has him with a K% north of 20% with only the slightest iso improvement and forecasts around 1 win if he gets all available platoon ABs.
Wilhelmsen, about as unsexy reliever as is possible is also a pretty safe bet.
I’d be pretty comfortable penciling him in as my go to mid innings guy and he’s always been durable enough and decent enoughto put up 60+ appearances.
There really is no evidence at all to forecast any kind of bounce back other than hope from Martin.
A trade that doesn’t move the needle but frankly seems like a crazy babip/LOB % fueled great year from Wilhelmsen is more likely than Martin hitting enough to compile anything more than a win and a half.
Possible i guess but this is a guy whose one pulled hamstring from being unrosterable.
Just playing devils advocate as i think it’s a reasonable trade on both sides but I’d be willing to wager quite a bit on Martin not exceeding one win in any season he plays for Seattle.
Apologies for the android auto correct grammatical errors.
“There really is no evidence at all to forecast any kind of bounce back other than hope from Martin…..Possible i guess but this is a guy whose one pulled hamstring from being unrosterable…..I’d be willing to wager quite a bit on Martin not exceeding one win in any season he plays for Seattle.”
His prior track record contradicts this. In 2013, he was worth 3-3.5 wins. In 2014, he was worth 3.5-4.5 wins. Last year, he struggled a lot offensively, but offense has never been the main source of his value. The biggest difference in his peripheral stats between 2013/14 and 2015 was BABIP, and for a guy with his speed, his .270 BABIP is probably a big flukey. The likelihood of a bounce back is more than just blind luck. His track record of success is longer than his track record of failure.
I’m not arguing that he’s a lock to return to his 2014/2014 numbers, but its a fact that 2/3 of his track record has been well above average. He needs to make some adjustments, but younger players coming off bad years often do that.
This trade has a LOT more upside for the M’s.
I’ll take that bet 🙂
nah I’m seeing an elite defensive CF that put up 3-3.5 fWAR seasons prior to becoming injured and playing through a slump in 2015. Big Tom will be missed from that elite 2014 Seattle bullpen, for sure. But Dipoto is doing the right thing.
People are throwing around the word “elite” a lot in this comments feed.
In reference just to his defense, isn’t that pretty accurate? He was one of the top defensive CFers in baseball the past few years by most metrics.
I don’t think anyone is calling him an elite player.
Bounce back or not by Martin, the Mariners are at least partially filling a position of need, centerfield, so the function of the trade is as important as the ceiling of production. If Martin 2016 hits like Martin 2015, then he won’t play full time, but the Mariners had no one to play CF at all until acquiring him. We can contrast his potential production against the potential production of better options who do not appear to be available, and there too Martin looks better than the alternative which is zero.
Wilhelmsen may not be ‘sexy’ to you, but what he is is consistently effective. He always gets his Ks, and really doesn’t give up the long ball. He has had stretches where he loses his fastball command and can’t pick up the zone to save hi life, during which he doesn’t get slaughtered but is ineffective. When Wilhelmsen has his FB command, he is a reliable and durable 8th or 9th inning option. Sexy is for lazy media bots, effective is for winning teams; Tom’s a fine back-end reliever. Sure, everybody would love to have Chapman. Plenty of other guys close quite well enough, thank you, and Tall Tom from Tucson is one of them.
Trading a 31 year old durable but otherwise meh reliever for an elite defender at an important defensive position who is also 3 years younger than aforementioned meh reliever seems like a pretty good move under almost any circumstances. Given the Mariners need for help at CF, this strikes me as a great move for Seattle.
From what I’ve read here and elsewhere, it seems that both fan bases are happy with the trade. I think what it also does is show where each of these clubs is: Rangers 4th OF became the Mariner’s starting CF and Mariners are happy with that. Mariners 3rd best RP slots in behind Kela, Diekman, Dyson, and Tolleson.
And duh, and good defensive CF who has shown flashes at the plate definitely has more upside in the future than a pretty good 32 year old RP. But the Rangers aren’t looking for future upside from him now. They just won the division and they are looking to improve even more NOW.
*each of these clubs ARE
Agree. Not a huge deal, but a win-win based upon needs.
Jones is not going to play in Texas. He is not even a 4th OFer. He didn’t play in Seattle and their CF was poor, poor. I will miss Tom W….
And we will have to wait and see what Martin is able to do offensively. He had wrist injury last year and that would make a difference for any player. You can’t grip the bat, you can’t hit.Maybe Edgar M can help Martin become a better hitter. He helped other M’s. 2nd half of last season only Blue Jays were better hitting team.
I was almost certain you pulled that last sentence out of your ass, but you didn’t. 2nd in wRC+. wOBA has Jays, Stros, Rangers, M’s. The AL west bats woke up in the 2nd half. I’m a Ranger guy, but like many I had the M’s in the ALCS in 2015. The West should be very interesting again.
Also, Rangers had Will Venable and Drew Stubbs as backup OF’s (they were terrible at the plate), so Jones very well may stay around.
Another factor is the wrist injury he played with from the beginning of the year. Here’s an article from May referencing it -> http://www.nbcdfw.com/blogs/red-fever/Martin-Struggling-to-Secure-Position-304288181.html . Wrist injuries are notorious for lingering and sapping offensive production. Hard to say just how much of an impact the injury had. However, it’s unlikely to hurt him going forward and so the odds of a bounce-back are increased after factoring in that Martin was playing hurt.
Leonys made $4.75m last year, so I believe the minimum salary he can get via arbitration is $3.9m.
Cot’s says he earned $3.75M last year, probably because it wasn’t prorating his signing bonus. In any case, I also was thinking that his team would have to offer at least 80% of the prior year’s contract amount to avoid making him a free agent.
probably worth mentioning that the Rangers didn’t include him on the playoff roster, but asked him to work out in Arizona in case he was needed (they did the same for Gallo and others.) Leonys refused. That was probably the end right there…
relievers be crazy
I thought this was a fine move for both teams. Rangers filled a need with a bullpen arm who might become a good 8th inning guy. And Ms got their CF and potential lead off man.
Mariners probably got the best of this. The bartender has a decent arm, but I lived through his fall as Mariners closer a couple years back when his fastball command completely failed him. Relievers are fickle, and he may be more inconsistent than he showed last year when most of his high leverage appearances came after Mariners were effectively eliminated from contention. I wonder how he’ll do if Texas uses him in high leverage 8th inning situations with added pressure of competing for playoff spot. My guess is Tom W falters a bit in that role. I bet he ends up as long man or 7th inning guy…which is where he started 2015 for Mariners. That doesn’t hold near the amount of value as a semi full time CF who has good defensive marks.