Matt Harvey’s Career-Worst Stuff

The title is a little alarmist, yes. Matt Harvey’s career has not been that long, and stuff usually just fades as you age. It’s a sad fact. Given all of that, though, his Game 1 performance was still noteworthy, in a bad way. In a lot of ways, he showed the worst stuff he’s ever shown.

Never once before had Harvey thrown fewer than 40% fastballs in a start. That’s the first sign things went wrong in Game 1, but it’s not the best one. The Royals love fastballs, and do well against hard fastballs, and so maybe he decided he’d go with his junk more often.

More of a problem was this. Harvey had the second-worst fastball velocity of his career on Tuesday night, second only to his work earlier this October against the Nationals. Only three times has he averaged under 94 mph in a start, and two of those times have been this month. He doesn’t have his best fastball right now.

That might not be a problem if the rest of his stuff was biting. It isn’t.

In Game 1, Harvey saw, ranked among all of his 68 starts in PITCHf/x:

* The seventh-worst differential between his fastball and changeup velocity
* The eighteenth-worst slider velocity
* The twelfth-worst curveball velocity
* The sixth-worst four-seam run
* The fifth-worst changeup run
* The tenth-worst curveball cut
* The ninth-worst changeup drop
* The eleventh-worst slider drop
* The third-worst curveball drop

You Aren't a FanGraphs Member
It looks like you aren't yet a FanGraphs Member (or aren't logged in). We aren't mad, just disappointed.
We get it. You want to read this article. But before we let you get back to it, we'd like to point out a few of the good reasons why you should become a Member.
1. Ad Free viewing! We won't bug you with this ad, or any other.
2. Unlimited articles! Non-Members only get to read 10 free articles a month. Members never get cut off.
3. Dark mode and Classic mode!
4. Custom player page dashboards! Choose the player cards you want, in the order you want them.
5. One-click data exports! Export our projections and leaderboards for your personal projects.
6. Remove the photos on the home page! (Honestly, this doesn't sound so great to us, but some people wanted it, and we like to give our Members what they want.)
7. Even more Steamer projections! We have handedness, percentile, and context neutral projections available for Members only.
8. Get FanGraphs Walk-Off, a customized year end review! Find out exactly how you used FanGraphs this year, and how that compares to other Members. Don't be a victim of FOMO.
9. A weekly mailbag column, exclusively for Members.
10. Help support FanGraphs and our entire staff! Our Members provide us with critical resources to improve the site and deliver new features!
We hope you'll consider a Membership today, for yourself or as a gift! And we realize this has been an awfully long sales pitch, so we've also removed all the other ads in this article. We didn't want to overdo it.

Harvey has had worse starts when it comes to outcomes. Six innings, three earned runs, two strikeouts, two walks and a homer is not his worst game. But by stuff, he had the worst game of his career.

If you average the ranks for each of his pitches Tuesday night among all of the games of his career, that game was his worst game for velocity, his second-worst game for horizontal movement, and the fourth-worst game for drop. And overall, his worst game for stuff.

It is, of course, fair to wonder if he’s hurting, and if this is the fatigue that Harvey’s doctor and agent were worried about as he hurtles by the 180-inning limit that was once put upon him.

The best thing we can do in times like this is turn to Josh Kalk’s injury finder, which Jeff Zimmerman revived recently on Baseballheatmaps. Kalk’s “Injury Zone” found that arm slot inconsistency, paired with velocity loss and a decrease in zone percentage, showed some success in predicting injury.

Harvey’s velocity is down, that much we know. Almost a full tick and a half off of a June peak this year. His five-game rolling zone percentage is down a bit, too. But his release point is just as consistent as ever late in the game. And even the total variance on his release points is in line with his normal work:

tkd81birmkmnao34esk348skf4differences

So maybe Harvey isn’t hurt. Or not hurting in the traditional sense. He could be tired, that seems a reasonable thing to wonder. On the other hand, it was a cold and wet night in Kansas City, too. In any case, Harvey showed the worst stuff of his career Tuesday night. Mets fans will have to hope that it was just the weather if Harvey pitches again against the Royals in this World Series.





With a phone full of pictures of pitchers' fingers, strange beers, and his two toddler sons, Eno Sarris can be found at the ballpark or a brewery most days. Read him here, writing about the A's or Giants at The Athletic, or about beer at October. Follow him on Twitter @enosarris if you can handle the sandwiches and inanity.

24 Comments
Oldest
Newest Most Voted
James
10 years ago

CORRECTION: Harvey did not play against the Nationals in the post-season.

ShauncoreMember since 2019
10 years ago

Baseball Heatmaps wins the award for most underrated pitchf/x site, I think

The Dude
10 years ago

“Harvey had the second-worst fastball velocity of his career on Tuesday night, second only to his work earlier this postseason against the Nationals.” Were you referring to his start against the Dodgers in the NLDS or his poor performance against the Nationals on September 8th?

Roger
10 years ago

Yeah, I’ve been really surprised to see how little of the typical New York sports-media hysteria there’s been about this — Harvey’s stuff was visibly terrible yesterday, you’d think there’d be WIDESPREAD PANIC headlines all over the place, but it all seems to have washed out of the beat writers’ memories in extra innings.

joser
10 years ago
Reply to  Roger

Or they just missed it in their sleep. As everybody in the Eastern Time Zone never misses a chance to tell us, they’re all in bed by the time anything important happens in a baseball game that starts any later than 7pm EDT.

tz
10 years ago
Reply to  joser

Eastern time zoner here – saw all the game last night, with no rooting interest.

Of course, I’ve been paying the price total. Not to mention I was deliriously tired and wired at once once the game went extra innings.

dl80
10 years ago
Reply to  joser

Well, we gotta make sure those hard-core LA fans are home from their awful traffic in time to catch that ever-important National Anthem!

SchoOne718
10 years ago
Reply to  joser

Do “us” realize how damn amusing it is to see how much people who don’t live in the East obsess over everything East Coast related? The media, the fans, national sports reporters, league offices, officials in each league….everyone has banded together to conspire against the poor people in the rest of the country. The powers that be all meet in a secret room is a special Eastern Time ZOne location and decide how to come up with complex schemes that ensure the success of the entire Eastern part of the country. And it fans out of course from the home of Satan in NYC, out to Boston and Philly, then Pittsburgh, DC and Baltimore…you know. Each city has a Sports Illuminati office designed in secret, and with the goal of putting down the uprisings of the oppressed time zone teams and fans.

It’s insane. The hatred of some sort is real because it’s talked about non-stop. Keep up the comedy.

francis
10 years ago

Hopefully he’s not seriously injured. It’ll in all likelihood be his last appearance until 2016.

Lolwut
10 years ago
Reply to  francis

Harvey will be on the mound for Game 5, why wouldn’t he be?

David K
10 years ago
Reply to  Lolwut

I think francis is claiming the Royals will sweep the Mets, eliminating the need for a game 5.

francis
10 years ago
Reply to  Lolwut

Yeah, that’s kind of what I was getting at.

Metsfan
10 years ago
Reply to  francis

I don’t think there’s any chance Harvey would even be pitching now if he were “seriously injured.” Most likely it is just fatigue due to the fact it’s his first year back from TJ surgery and he’s never before pitched close to 200 innings in his career.

In all likelihood, Harvey will be pitching a game 5 at Citi. I would bet on it. But I wouldn’t bet that he will be close to the dominant pitcher we saw earlier in the year.

francis
10 years ago
Reply to  Metsfan

Not seriously injured before the game. I was talking during …

Roger
10 years ago
Reply to  francis

Have a little fun sometime, jeez.

Terry Collins
10 years ago

I have no clue why Harvey was afraid of the Royals fastball outcomes. Just go at them. Any Met that pitches scared shouldn’t bother going to the mound. Go with 95+ heat and make the Royals beat you. If they do, shake their hand and congratulate them. if they don’t, you’re champs. But go out on your own terms, good lord

dl80
10 years ago
Reply to  Terry Collins

They don’t shake hands with opponents in professional baseball. They only shake hands with their own team (which I think is super weird and make no sense and is also kind of anti-gracious).

Eric
10 years ago

Some of this may be circular – Harvey’s had control issues this year (not surprising for a first year back from TJ), particularly after long rest. So he may have backed off his velocity to try to regain some further control, particularly if he didn’t have a good feel for breaking pitches.

pft
10 years ago
Reply to  Eric

This is quite common in the first year back from TJS. Buts its also a sign of a newly injured UCL due to laxness in the joint.

The process of ligamentization (changing properties of the tendon into properties needed to function well as a liagment) can be a long one. But the fact the change came after pitching the first half suggests this might be more than that

cpins
10 years ago

Not sure how I feel if it’s “the weather.” I haven’t checked the 5-day forecast but I do know that NYC in November ain’t Miami Beach.

pft
10 years ago

The 2nd half decline is probably why Boras got concerned and wanted to enforce the IP limit. Unfortunately none of the pundits cared to point this out at the time and my lonely comments were ignored.

Obviously, pitching with fatigue is one of the great injury risk factors, but the Mets don’t care (well they do but are prepared to risk him for today), they already got most of the surplus value they are going to get as he enters arb years.

Another factor though he is took a 100 mph LD off his arm his last start. I suspect he is till feeling some effects from that shot. Pitching while injured is another great risk factor. The appointment with Dr Andrews might already be made.

Mark Davidson
10 years ago

Hey Eno, good stuff par the usual. Did a particular pitch cue you into thinking about the other pitches? I.e. the flatness of his slider or the relative “slow-ness” of his fastball?

Eno Sarris
10 years ago
Reply to  Mark Davidson

I started with the velocity, but the drop immediately stood out because I’ve been looking at the Royals’ lack of drop.