Pirates Jameson Taillon Makes Successful Debut
By any statistical measure, Pirates pitching phenom Jameson Taillon’s 2011 was a success. Strong strikeout rates, low walk rates and less than a hit per inning leaves both Pittsburgh and prospect fans in general excited about his developing into the organization’s first top flight starter since Doug Drabek nearly two decades ago (Gerrit Cole has some say in this as well).
Did Taillon impress in person? Most definitely, but the young right-hander scouted quite differently than the numbers indicate. Taillon was actually quite raw and requires considerable refinement even though the numbers say otherwise.
In terms of size and physical development, Jameson Taillon is about as perfect a specimen as one could hope to find. Projecting for both power and durability, it’s easy to envision Taillon averaging 200 innings pitched per season in much more than the generic “workhorse” capacity. My only minor concern is that Taillon did not appear particularly athletic, but having pitched the season at 19, it’s quite possible the slight awkwardness may simply be due to maturing into his 6-foot-6 frame.
With a smooth, 3/4 arm action, Taillon comfortably sat at 94 MPH throughout most of the start working his 4-seam fastball up to 96 on a number of occasions (A contact had Tailling touching 99 MPH later in the season). Early in the outing, Taillon struggled to command the fastball leaving it over the heart of the plate far too often. When above the belt, the pitch flattened out considerably which an offensively challenged Savannah Sand Gnats team was able to handle. I suspect his difficulties early on were due to not finishing out front with his release point.
As the innings wore on, his command sharpened considerably with Taillon adding drop and arm side run down in the zone. However, it seemed as if each batter received one mistake fastball to drive and Mets Aderlin Rodriguez took full advantage depositing a belt high fastball 430 feet to straightaway center field for a majestic home run. Even with a number of mistake pitches, Taillon’s being able to make adjustments to sharpen his command was a positive sign.
Taillon also mixed in a 2-seam fastball at 90-91 MPH with more drop and run than his 4-seamer. Should Taillon develop command of both fastballs to the point where he is able to use them interchangeably, it would take pressure off of his changeup which lags considerably behind the rest of his arsenal.
In discussing his changeup, the 86-87 MPH offering was surprisingly underdeveloped. In using it only a handful of times, Taillon consistently left the pitch up in the zone and let up slightly in his throwing motion. From an organizational standpoint, I suspect refining the pitch will be a primary focus of Taillon’s off-season.
Taillon also flashed a slider at 83 MPH. The pitch was more “true” than what I normally scout at the level as it featured quick, late cut to miss bat barrels. It was an offering I had hoped to see utilized more often, but Taillon chose to work his fastball/curveball combination heavily.
At 79-81 MPH, Taillon’s curveball was easily his best breaking ball. Early on, he struggled to locate, suffering from a bit of wrist wrap off of his ear. This caused him to tip the pitch some leading to more “spinners” that lacked bite. As with his fastball, Taillon’s control of the offering improved throughout as his release point became more consistent and wrist wrap dissipated. By the fifth inning, it was at least solid average with room for additional growth.
In reflecting on Taillon, his outing was a bit of a mixed bag. Having traveled a little over four hours to scout him in person, the expectation was for me to leave the park with a firm belief he was the best pitching prospect I’d ever seen in person. However, Taillon fell a little short of “elite” status in my mind.
In 2011 alone, Taillon ranked as only the fifth best starting pitcher scouted behind Julio Teheran, Danny Hultzen, Rubby De La Rosa and Jarrod Parker in terms of pure “stuff”. Of course Taillon is the youngest of the bunch by at least a couple of years in most cases, but is only a mere 10 months younger than Teheran who has already built up the innings in triple-A to warrant a rotation spot in most big league rotations.
However, having scouted Teheran for three consecutive years has taught me just how quickly an elite prospect can improve. Taillon has the body and fastball movement to hit the fast track, but his lack of developed secondary offerings gives me pause when considering his upside potential. Do I love Taillon as a solid 2/3 at the Major League level? Absolutely, but not as the true ace so many are projecting him to be.
Instead of Roger Clemens or Josh Beckett, the best Texan to comp Jameson Taillon in terms of physique, arsenal and peripherals is John Lackey who has compiled a 3.91 FIP in nearly 1,900 Major League innings. Would Pirates fans be happy with this outcome? Considering the hype, probably not, but that projection would still leave Taillon as the best starting pitcher to don a Pirates uniform since the days Barry Bonds wore the yellow and black.
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“would still leave Taillon as the best starting pitcher to dawn a Pirates uniform since Barry Bonds wore the yellow and black.”
Are you on drugs?
how about a counter example to back up your indignation?
As surely as the dawn brings black and yellow jerseys over the horizon, Bonds was the best starting pitcher I can remember….
Dude, Barry Bonds was a great starting pitcher.
FG readers crack me up sometimes. “Since Barry Bonds wore the yellow and black” was a reference to the time period and Doug Drabek being in Pittsburgh at said time. It has absolutely nothing to do with Barry Bonds being a pitcher. Really guys… you can do better than this…
I think it’s obvious what you meant, but that sentence is worded terribly. You may have meant one thing, but it says something else lol.
Brendan,
I referenced Drabek early in the piece. He played with Bonds in Pittsburgh. They wore uniforms which were yellow and black. I’m not sure how else to word it in a way which references Drabek without specifically mentioning him again.
I agree with Brendan, changing it to “since the time Barry bonds wore yellow and black threads”
My bigger gripe is how does one “dawn” a uniform? Are the pirates rolling out new designs? I think you mean don
Being relatively new to Fangraphs, I’m just curious as to what is so rewarding about assuming a “Grammar Police” role in the comments area? For the life of me, I just can’t figure out how it is beneficial.
For me, it’s tantamount to typing, “yes, this guy traveled 8+ hours to scout Taillon, tracked pitches, took video, collected notes and wrote the report, but he did misuse don vs. dawn so let’s discredit the entire piece and the sum total of 12 or so hours work that went into it.”
he meant dawn as in Dawn Drabek, the sister. There is no ‘Don” Drabek, only Doug, Kyle, and Dawn.
Chill out newman, it was a good read, I’m just pointing out something that should be edited, have stuff like that takes away from the piece when other people read it… Chill out dude that wasn’t an affront on you
Whew, Mike! You need to get a longer fuse.
The guys were mostly just having fun teasing you.
However, that last sentence was a poor piece of writing.
A potentially good writer should graciously accept the criticism and write better in the future.
You still haven’t answered the original question of whether or not you are using illegal performance enhancement drugs. Does fangraphs even have a testing program in place for it’s writers?
Or perhaps the original commentor was actually asking if Barry Bonds was on drugs, to which we can reply….We think so, but haven’t actually been able to prove it yet.
Oh, and accidentally hit the -1 button instead of reply initially. Please disregard….or you can give it right back to me if it makes ya feel better. I deserve it.
Yeah, Mike really seems to have flown off the handle here. Boy does he seem worked up.
Thanks as always for the vital tips on grammar & etiquette, passive-aggressive internet commenters. Saved us all from having to talk baseball.
Mike,
I think you need to admit your mistake here. The sentence clearly should have read “…since the early 90’s.” To which I would have replied, “The early 90’s was a starting pitcher?!!”
I’m honestly not really one for flying off the handle. However, I’m passionate about my prospect writing and the readers who comment in an effort to grow the conversation.
In truth, there are simply better ways to point out grammatical errors which don’t denigrate the writer or take away from the piece, or conversation in the comments area itself.
no, but barry bonds is