Projecting Kris Bryant

Happy Kris Bryant Day!

Kris Bryant is finally free. After spending his obligatory two weeks in the minors, the highly-touted slugger has been summoned to the major leagues. He’ll slot into the Cubs lineup today, and will be playing third base, putting an end to the much-maligned Mike Olt era in Chicago.

By now, you’re probably well familiar with Bryant’s prospect pedigree. After three monster seasons at the University of San Diego, the Cubs took Bryant with the 2nd overall pick in 2013, right behind Mark Appel. Bryant made quick work of the minor leagues, destroying opposing pitchers to the tune of .330/.429/.662 in his year and a half in the minors. Bryant was a highly-touted prospect dating back to his college days, but his prospect status ticked up to elite following his 2014 performance. He hit .325/.438/.661 between Double-A and Triple-A last year, and belted a whopping 43 homers along the way — the most of any player in affiliated baseball.

Unsurprisingly, KATOH’s all over him. My system forecasts the slugger for a remarkable 16 WAR through age-28, which was the 2nd most of any prospect last winter; Only Joc Pederson earned a higher projection. Here are the probabilities my system spits out for Bryant through age-28.

MLB >4 WAR >6 WAR >8 WAR >10 WAR >12 WAR >16 WAR
99% 74% 74% 72% 65% 57% 53%

It goes without saying that Bryant’s projection has a lot do do with his mammoth power. Bryant’s .335 isolated power was the second highest among qualified hitters in the minors last year, bested only by Joey Gallo. And after adjusting for league average, Bryant’s mark was among the highest figures we’ve ever seen from a prospect in the high minors. Ryan Howard was the last hitter to post a higher league-adjusted ISO than Bryant’s in at least 400 plate appearances in either Double-A or Triple-A.

Power is clearly Bryant’s calling card, but there’s more to his offensive game than just hitting dingers. He also draws walks in heaps and steals the occasional base. All of these traits are positive predictors of future performance, and therefore provide a boost to his KATOH projection.

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Furthermore, even his batted balls that don’t leave the park still end up falling for hits extremely often. His .406 BABIP in the minors was nothing short of absurd. It’s probably safe to assume that Bryant’s BABIP was helped by some lucky bounces — that’s usually a safe assumption for any BABIP north of .400, even in the minors — but given his power, it’s certainly not hard to believe that Bryant’s true-talent BABIP is much higher than most players. Bryant’s lofty figures are also a testament to just how hard he can hit the ball, and KATOH takes this into account.

Bryant’s obviously a very talented hitter. He absolutely crushed minor league pitching, and if you believe the projections, he’s already one of the best 30 or 40 hitters on the planet. Both Steamer and ZiPS project him for a 130 wRC+ right now, which puts him ahead of names like Robinson Cano, Josh Donaldson and Albert Pujols. But as great as he is, Bryant’s not without his flaws.

In KATOH’s eyes, Bryant’s biggest bugaboo is his strikeout rate. His 27% K% from last year wasn’t terrible, per se, but was certainly closer to bad than good. However, these inflated strikeout numbers are really just a symptom of Bryant’s real problem: His inability to make contact.

According to Minor League Central, Bryant made contact just 65% of pitches thrown to him in Triple-A last year, which was 6th lowest among 305 Triple-A players with at least 200 plate appearances. More specifically, he connected on 74% of his swings on pitches inside of the strike zone last year (15th lowest), and 13% of pitches outside of the zone (3rd lowest).

These Z-Contact% and O-Contact% figures were calculated using minor league zone data, which isn’t always entirely accurate. But plain old Contact% can be somewhat deceiving, as it’s influenced by a hitter’s plate discipline. Pitches outside of the strike zone are harder to hit, so players who swing at more of those pitches will have lower contact rates. In any event, let’s compare all of the imperfect data we have on Bryant’s contact profile with those of another player who spent significant time in Triple-A last year.

Player OCon% ZCon% Con%
Kris Bryant 12.8% 74.0% 64.7%
Mystery Player 12.9% 73.5% 62.9%

Their contact profiles are nearly identical. The mystery player made slightly less contact on pitches in the strike zone, but otherwise, these two players look almost exactly the same. That mystery player is Javier Baez. The same Javier Baez who hit .169/.227/.324 in his first half-season in the big leagues, and struck out an unsettling 41% of the time.

Baez was all sorts of terrible last year, and his lack of contact was a big contributor to his terribleness. That Bryant shares Baez’s contact profile is pretty scary. However, there’s one important area where Bryant has Baez beat: Plate discipline.

Both hitters struck out roughly 30% of the time as Iowa Cubs, but unlike Baez, Bryant complemented the strikeouts with an above-average walk rate. Of course, some of those walks were likely the result of pitchers fearing Bryant’s power rather than his laying off good pitches. But Bryant’s swing profile shows that — unlike Baez — he’s not just up there hacking aimlessly. Again, this data is flawedt, but it gets the point across. Relative to Baez, Bryant swung at more pitches inside of the zone, but fewer outside of it.

Name O-Swing% Z-Swing%
Kris Bryant 14.4% 77.1%
Javier Baez 19.1% 72.5%

Bryant’s going to strike out. Strikeouts are just a part of his game, but that doesn’t mean he can’t still be a good hitter. Adam Dunn, Chris Davis, Giancarlo Stanton and George Springer all rocked the high-strikeout, good-everything-else offensive profile, and made it work. Bryant can make it work too, as long as he swings at the right pitches and does a great deal damage when he does make contact. Bryant did both of those things in the minors, so there’s little reason to think he won’t be able to continue doing so as a big leaguer.

Bryant’s contact and strikeout issues should certainly give you pause, but everything else in his profile is excellent. That’s why KATOH is so smitten with the 23-year-old. His power is off the charts, he runs well and can distinguish good pitches from bad ones. Throw in that he plays an decent third base, and there are myriad ways that Kris Bryant can help the Cubs win ball games. And now, the wait is finally over. At long last, we get to see Bryant do his thing in the majors.





Chris works in economic development by day, but spends most of his nights thinking about baseball. He writes for Pinstripe Pundits, FanGraphs and The Hardball Times. He's also on the twitter machine: @_chris_mitchell None of the views expressed in his articles reflect those of his daytime employer.

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jim fetterolf
11 years ago

Bryant looks a little like an RH Eric Hosmer to me, same size, similar AAA numbers.

Pirates Hurdles
11 years ago
Reply to  jim fetterolf

Is this supposed to be sarcastic? There is almost nothing similar at all. Massive difference in power and K rate.

Jake
11 years ago
Reply to  jim fetterolf

They are not similar at all. Here are there career minor league numbers.

Hosmer: PA-1164 R-152 HR-30 RBI-165 .312/.393/.887
Bryant: PA- 773 R-147 HR-55 RBI-152 .327/.426/1.092

K
11 years ago
Reply to  Jake

You should be fair – he only said AAA.

Hosmer: 130 PA .426/.512/.583 | .500 BABIP .150 ISO
Bryant: 330 PA .298/.412/.625 | .365 BABIP .330 ISO

I don’t know about you, but I see no important differences.

Eric
11 years ago
Reply to  K

Yeah, their ISOs are basically identical

What
11 years ago
Reply to  K

You’re missing the sarcasm font dude.

Db
11 years ago

I’m genuinely asking not being snarky. When did a higher babip become a skill? I agree that a hitter can and should somewhat influence babip but I missed when it went from the it’s all luck to its a repeatable skill. I have been seeing it called a skill the last little while and been meaning to ask this for a bit.

Going to be a good day for Wrigley. He instantly joined the 2015 mlb.tv allstar team.

Pirates Hurdles
11 years ago
Reply to  Db

Seems like an evolution over the last 3 years or so as we realized that many factors can drive sustainable high/low babip – line drive/pop up rate, speed or lack there of, ground ball/fly ball tendency, hard contact, etc.

That said minor league babip is generally useless as a predictor, good hitters crush minor league pitching, end of story.

some guy
11 years ago
Reply to  Db

My initial reaction is that a high BABIP would have some correlation to speed-first guys that have figured out to hit GB and use their legs to get on base.

A quick glance at the all-time leader board somewhat confirms this as 11 of the top all-time BABIP leaders have 200+ steals. On the other hand, you also have guys like Puig, Kemp, Votto and the immortal Reggie Jefferson (2 career SB). So I’m not sure my theory holds true.

I’d be interested in seeing a FG analysis piece on this.

some guy
11 years ago
Reply to  Catoblepas

thanks!

Norm
11 years ago
Reply to  Db

I think when talking about minor leaguers, the hitters that turn out to be big league all stars have much higher minor league babip’s than non-stars.
Where you’ll see stars in the Majors have low babip’s, you won’t really see stars in the minors with low babips.

Poor explanation, but that’s the jist, I think

Mike
11 years ago
Reply to  Norm

That tracks with theories and discussions I have heard as well. Against quality competition, a player’s Babip does contain a lot of random variance and tends to be a less than valuable tool for evaluating future performance. But, a consistently high babip in the minors potentially indicates that the player’s talent level is simply higher than his competition. That is no guaranty of success in the majors, but it at least bodes well for the player.

jdbolickMember since 2024
11 years ago
Reply to  Norm

I’ve seen no evidence to support any such thing. Travis Snider and Brett Lawrie had career minor league BABIPs of .374 and .373 respectively, while Brett Jackson came in at .347. Miguel Cabrera’s was only .330. Andrew McCutchen’s was .327. Robinson Cano’s was .302. Mike Trout’s was an otherworldly .402, but I have never seen any study that showed much predictive value in minor league BABIP.

Andrew
11 years ago
Reply to  Db

High BABIP for hitters has always been a skill, it just fluctuates a lot year to year, but overall, it’s clear that better hitters have better BABIPs. Thats why Miguel cabrera has a .347 career BABIP and Trout has a .364 career BABIP while even with all his speed, Juan Pierre only had a .313 BABIP. For pitchers, BABIP and HR/FB rate are much harder to control so those stats arent very important for pitchers.

Toffer Peak
11 years ago
Reply to  Db

Hitter BABIP has always been considered a skill. Even pitcher skill has generally been considered a skill, a very, very weak skill however prone to a lot more noise than signal. Even the original BABIP analysis article by Voros McCracken noted that knuckleballers had lower BABIPs than others.

ivdown
11 years ago
Reply to  Db

Great point for your last sentence, he gets added to the must watch list asap!

tz
11 years ago

Good stuff again Chris.

With all the hype and high expectations, Bryant’s potential for a high K rate could lead to some ugly numbers early in his career, especially if MLB pitchers find a hole or two to exploit.

Still, even if he fails to hit .200 he could be an average or better player because of his power and ability to draw a walk. And, rookie struggles don’t necessarily rule out the outside chance of long-term success like this guy*:

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1011586&position=3B

(*minus all those Gold Gloves)

K
11 years ago
Reply to  tz

At least he doesn’t have any pressure on him. Small market so not much media focus, franchise with recent history so a fanbase that’s very patient, and there haven’t been any headline stories featuring his agent declaring him an MLB-ready star.

Tramps Like Us
11 years ago

This is why I love baseball! At the end of the day, it’s about getting excited to watch this kid play agame called baseball, not about O-Swings and BABIP. And I’m not saying those are not important, ‘cuz they obviously are. But those are so logic-based. The excitement I’m feeling has nothing to do with logic. It’s just joy, plain and simple.

Norm
11 years ago

“He’ll slot into the Cubs lineup tonight”

TODAY!
1:20 CST, so no one misses!

Norm
11 years ago

I’m personally expecting something near Stanton’s 2010
260/325/510 8%bb, 30%k

Seems like Cub fans would be disappointed by that.

jdbolickMember since 2024
11 years ago
Reply to  Norm

And I believe that even those numbers are a tad optimistic across the board. I see ~.250/.310/.490, ~7% BB, and ~32% K given that Bryant is more aggressive at the plate than his minor league walk rate would suggest.

Cornflake5000
11 years ago
Reply to  Norm

I’ve been called a moron by some of my fellow Cubs fans for bring up Troy Glaus as a comp. 40hr, 100bb, high strikeouts, good defense… what’s not to like? People are still stuck looking at batting average and ignoring walks. I agree, he’s going to be a fantastic player and some fans will be disappointed.

Zak
11 years ago

I feel like Cubs fans are hoping for the next Giancarlo Stanton when all I’m seeing is the next Ryan Howard or Adam Dunn. If Bryant is the good version of Howard, then that’s good, but I see could see him just as likely ending up as bad version of Howard.

Stanton and Bryant had similar minor league numbers but Stanton was much younger and he’s never posted a contact percentage in the majors as low as Bryant’s has been in the minors. I just feel that a sub 65% contact percentage in the minors suggest a fundamental hole in his swing that major league pitchers are going to find and exploit. Also, I believe Bryant’s minor league contact percentage was inflated by being able to lay off out of zone pitches in the minors. He will have a much more difficult time laying off out of zone pitches against major league pitchers.

Full disclosure, I’m a Brewers fan, so its possible that I’m biased against anything good for the Cubs. I am prepared to endure egg on my face if Bryant becomes the next great power hitter, but I’d bet against it.

Cornflake5000
11 years ago
Reply to  Zak

I’m a Cubs fan… I’m expecting him to walk a lot more than they guys you mentioned… at least more than Howard. Dunn’s career at third base, provided he’s a good fielder is a pretty good player. I mentioned Troy Glaus above. That’s a great player.

jdbolickMember since 2024
11 years ago
Reply to  Cornflake5000

Howard’s career BB% of 11.5% is pretty high, so expecting Bryant “to walk a lot more than” that is a bold statement. Personally I expect him walk less than that.

Zak
11 years ago
Reply to  Cornflake5000

Troy Glaus is a common comparison that I’m hearing, but Troy didn’t have a crazy high K rate, just a high one. Glaus also had no issue posting contact % greater than 70% in the majors. I just find it hard to believe that Bryant could get anywhere close to 70% when he was a sub 65% guy in minors. Furthermore, Glaus was younger when he joined the big leagues and he didn’t K as much as Bryant did in the younger.

My main issue with Bryant is that contact%. His minor league contact% would the lowest among qualified batters in the majors last year. If his contact % dips lower in the majors when facing better pitchers, it could get real ugly real fast.

Pale Hose
11 years ago

How excited should I be in units of Mookie?

PandaKOST
11 years ago
Reply to  Pale Hose

I’m setting my Bryant excitement at .95 Mookies as I don’t expect any exciting defensive plays or baserunning highlights. However, the anticipation of power and likelihood of extremely disappointed Cubs fans (refer to K% and Cubs wild expectations. 16-1 to win WS with O/U of 82.5games?!) significantly raises the excitement level for me personally. Man, it’s going to be fun to once again revel in the pain of Cubs fans. No way they’re breaking .500.

Tinker2Evers2ChanceMember since 2020
11 years ago
Reply to  PandaKOST

Wow, this is a pretty bitter comment. Glad to hear you get pleasure from the pain of others. Also your “no way they break .500” comment suggests you don’t understand random variation or believe the Cubs are a true 70 win team (and that would still give them roughly a 5% chance assuming luck-based standard deviation of win estimates of 6-6.5 wins/season)

K
11 years ago
Reply to  Pale Hose

Four.

jimmy
11 years ago

George Springer went into 2014 having struck out on 24.4% of plate appearances with a .362 BABIP the year before in triple-A. He then went on to hit .231 in the majors.

Kris Bryant is coming into 2015 having struck out on 28.6% of plate appearances with a .367 BABIP in triple-A. How is it then that most Bryant projections I’ve seen (ZIPS, Steamer, Davenport, Cairo) have him batting somewhere in the high .250s to low .260s?

Springer had better contact numbers in triple-A too and he came in and struck out 33% of the time. The Bryant projections all have him striking out at around a 30-31% clip. Once again, using Springer as a comp, I don’t see how we can expect him to strike out less than 33-35% of the time.

jdbolickMember since 2024
11 years ago
Reply to  jimmy

Bryant has more power.

jimmy
11 years ago
Reply to  jdbolick

That was my theory as well but I don’t think it holds up.

Springer hit a HR last year every 17.25 plate appearances. That was good for 6th among hitters with at least 150 PA and puts him right between Giancarlo Stanton and Jose Abreu.

I think Bryant would have to come in with Chris Davis 2013 kinda power to even hope to hit for a better average than Springer.

Surrealistic Pillow
11 years ago
Reply to  jimmy

It’s almost as if Bryant’s projections weren’t derived solely by comparison to Springer’s stats…

louisschaff
11 years ago
Reply to  jdbolick

He was also 1.5 years younger than Springer at the same levels. Plus didn’t have the full season of A+ ball under his belt…

a eskpert
11 years ago
Reply to  jdbolick

Springer’s really fast.

Baseball Guy
11 years ago

Always interesting to watch guys who pulverized minor league pitching adjust to major leaguers. He’ll likely continue to crush for a while, then some team will keep him quiet for a series, everyone else will study up on it, and there will start to develop a book. For Bryant and Cubs fans, everything depends on how he reacts to that book.

TimothyS
11 years ago
Reply to  Baseball Guy

I can guarantee you there is already a book on Kris Bryant.

OneearMember since 2018
11 years ago

Why can’t we choose Bryant in the Fangraphs “THE GAME” today? C’mon…let us have some fun.

CapricaCity
11 years ago

An ESPN reporter was just saying that not only might Bryant put up good numbers, but that a good performance from a rookie can be contagious and the whole team could hit better. There was no data given to back up this assertion, of course. I’m wondering, how did the rest of the Angels hit before and after Trout’s call up? I think the comment from the ESPN reporter was nonsensical, but it would be cool to see data to back it up, or disprove it.

highrent
11 years ago

The problem is that Bryant is probably in a bad era to coming up due to the huge Strike zone. But that also means whatever he doe sis likely his floor and we may see some substantial peaks when the zone stops being crazy.