Projecting the Prospects in the Troy Tulowitzki Trade

While many of you were snuggled up in your beds last night, Alex Anthopoulos and his henchmen were hard at work acquiring Troy Tulowitzki from the Rockies. You can read Dave Cameron’s piping hot take on the trade here and Kiley McDaniel’s scouting-oriented contribution on the three pitching prospects going from Toronto to Colorado here. Below, I’ll be taking a data-driven look at those same three prospects, as follow: Miguel Castro, Jeff Hoffman, and Jesus Tinoco.

Miguel Castro

Castro has already shown us glimpses of what he’s capable of at the big-league level. After a dominant spring training, the 20-year-old broke camp with the Blue Jays as their closer. But Toronto put the kibosh on that experiment after just 13 largely mediocre appearances. He’s thrown 24 minor-league innings since his demotion, with most of them coming in relief.

Prior to this year, Castro pitched entirely in the low minors, with all but 30 innings coming in short-season ball. So there’s very little meaningful data that can be used to evaluate the 20-year-old. Using his 24 innings from this year, KATOH forecasts Castro for 2.9 WAR through age-28, which would have put him 172nd on KATOH’s preseason list. His 82 innings from last year yielded a similar forecast of 2.6 WAR. Due to sample size concerns, I didn’t think a list of statistical comps would be particularly enlightening.

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Jeff Hoffman

Castro should be able to help out the Rockies in the near future, especially if they choose to keep him in the bullpen. But Hoffman appears to be the real prize in this deal. Hoffman was one of the most highly touted amateur arms heading into the 2014 draft, but his draft stock plummeted following Tommy John Surgery. The Blue Jays wisely gambled that his recovery would be a smooth one, and popped him ninth overall in last year’s draft.

After returning to action in May, Hoffman turned in a 3.71 FIP in 11 High-A starts, and holds a 2.38 FIP through two starts at the Double-A level. KATOH, however, isn’t sold on Hoffman. Although his overall stats have been solid, KATOH pegs him for just 1.4 WAR through age-28.

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The low forecast has to do with his middling strikeout rate (18%) and also with his age: at 22, he wasn’t overly young for A-Ball. However, KATOH doesn’t know that Hoffman sat out an entire year recovering from surgery, and might still be finding his groove. As he distances himself from his surgery, his stat line — and by extension, his KATOH projection — could easily improve by a wide margin in the next year or so.

With all of that in mind, here are some comps generated by way of some Mahalanobis distance calculations.

Rank Mah Dist Pitcher IP thru 28 WAR thru 28
1 0.05 Jason Davis 461 3.3
2 0.07 Gary Knotts 267 0.3
3 0.07 Jason Grote 0 0.0
4 0.08 Ottis Smith 0 0.0
5 0.13 C.J. Wilson 280 2.0
6 0.17 Scott Downs 163 1.2
7 0.19 Bronson Arroyo 588 7.4
8 0.19 Bryan Bullington 39 0.0
9 0.23 Vance Worley* 506 6.3
10 0.25 Paul Rigdon 166 0.2
11 0.25 Jamie Sepeda 0 0.0
12 0.27 Silfredo Garcia 0 0.0
13 0.28 Brent Hansen 0 0.0
14 0.29 Brett Smith 0 0.0
15 0.34 Josh Hall 24 0.0
16 0.34 Danny Borrell 0 0.0
17 0.34 Dan Perkins 86 0.0
18 0.34 Robert Rohrbaugh 0 0.0
19 0.35 John Gast* 12 0.1
20 0.36 Jeff Borski 0 0.0

*Pitchers who have yet to play their age-28 season.

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Jesus Tinoco

Tinoco has spent all of 2015 as a 20-year-old starter at the Low-A level, where he’s pitched to an excellent 2.76 FIP. His 19% strikeout rate is in line with the Midwest League average, while his 6% walk rate is slightly better than average. However, being that he’s very far away from the majors, his work yields a KATOH forecast of just 1.8 WAR through age-28. Here are his top statistical comps.

Rank Mah Dist Name IP thru 28 WAR thru 28
1 0.31 Robert Gsellman* 0 0.0
2 0.37 Rich Loiselle 206 1.1
3 0.39 Chad Petty 0 0.0
4 0.51 Walker Chapman 0 0.0
5 0.63 Jeff Locke* 457 2.6
6 0.67 Kevin Logsdon 0 0.0
7 0.69 Scott Mathieson 44 0.0
8 0.73 Jung Bong* 78 0.0
9 0.73 Esmil Rogers 421 1.7
10 0.78 Todd Noel 0 0.0
11 0.78 Elvis Araujo* 26 0.2
12 0.86 Evan Anundsen 0 0.0
13 0.87 Enemencio Pacheco 0 0.0
14 0.87 Jake Dittler 0 0.0
15 0.90 Ignacio Puello 0 0.0
16 0.91 Robert Carson* 33 0.0
17 0.91 Robert Averette 0 0.0
18 0.93 Jeff Marquez 5 0.0
19 0.98 Frank Graham 0 0.0
20 0.99 Chaz Roe 55 0.3

*Pitchers who have yet to play their age-28 season.





Chris works in economic development by day, but spends most of his nights thinking about baseball. He writes for Pinstripe Pundits, FanGraphs and The Hardball Times. He's also on the twitter machine: @_chris_mitchell None of the views expressed in his articles reflect those of his daytime employer.

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Damaso
11 years ago

its pretty cool how all three have so little data to go on.

this is a pure scouting trade. 3 live arms who can hit high 90s and potentially have a plus breaking ball.

PandaKOST
11 years ago

A plus breaking ball is worthless at Coors. The Rockies need to target guys with plus changeups and/or sinkers.

Anon Moose
11 years ago

Am I the only one really underwhelmed by this?

Two high-a pitchers, one with an admittedly solid pedigree but injury issues, and a young bullpen guy who can maybe start gets you Tulowisky. Maybe I’m over valuing Tulo or just speaking out of prejudice against pitching prospects, but it seems like he should bring in a blue chip type and change rather than a bunch of middling types with maybe high ceilings.

nate
11 years ago
Reply to  Anon Moose

yeah, it seems a bit light to me too but they’ll flip reyes this winter for a few more prospects and it may not seem quite so light then.

Agreeable
11 years ago
Reply to  Anon Moose

Agreed.

If I’m trading Tulo (or Hamels, Cueto, Kazmir, et. al.) I’m looking for the very best single minor league prospect or young major leaguer. Quality >>>>> quantity.

JP
11 years ago
Reply to  Anon Moose

To be fair, Hoffman has been promoted to double A. He’s for sure the only part of the trade that I was at all upset about. He’s not a middling prospect, he was a top 10 pick a year ago and he only went as low as he did(9th) because he had Tommy John Surgery. The injury risk is something to consider though TJS isn’t typically a recurring thing(though it can) but I read the Jays had been trying to modify his delivery to reduce injury(which had been hurting the performance of his really good curve). That said, Coors is an arm wrecker so I wonder why the Rockies even try to go after pitching prospects.