Projection Leaderboard Fun Courtesy of ZiPS and Fans
Now that spring training is getting to the point where stats and injuries are beginning to add up, it’s a good time to peek in on some in-season expectations from ZiPS and the Fans. The “Projections” tab on our header is a great place to burn away time at the office. There are currently five projection systems located there and each has a couple surprises.
ZiPS went fully live about a week ago and we’re combining it with Steamer for the WAR projection on our Depth Charts page. The Fans projection is from our crowdsourcing project. The numbers tend to come out a tad optimistic, so keep that in mind. There’s no special reason to be looking at these two systems side by side, but both recently went live for the season and both interest me.
Let’s kick off with offensive players. Below are tables for players with the best projected wOBA, best defensive projection, and highest base running. ZiPS is on the left and Fans is on the right.
Top 15 wOBA
Name | G | PA | wOBA | | | Name | G | PA | wOBA |
Miguel Cabrera | 149 | 648 | 0.416 | | | Miguel Cabrera | 151 | 665 | 0.431 |
Mike Trout | 156 | 714 | 0.402 | | | Joey Votto | 155 | 681 | 0.417 |
Joey Votto | 142 | 627 | 0.396 | | | Mike Trout | 145 | 655 | 0.402 |
David Ortiz | 110 | 472 | 0.392 | | | Giancarlo Stanton | 139 | 607 | 0.395 |
Jose Bautista | 113 | 498 | 0.389 | | | Paul Goldschmidt | 156 | 685 | 0.394 |
Ryan Braun | 155 | 664 | 0.388 | | | Carlos Gonzalez | 138 | 603 | 0.392 |
Troy Tulowitzki | 128 | 529 | 0.383 | | | David Ortiz | 133 | 577 | 0.390 |
Bryce Harper | 142 | 599 | 0.382 | | | Edwin Encarnacion | 143 | 620 | 0.390 |
Giancarlo Stanton | 133 | 553 | 0.382 | | | Andrew McCutchen | 156 | 686 | 0.390 |
Edwin Encarnacion | 134 | 564 | 0.379 | | | Troy Tulowitzki | 135 | 589 | 0.390 |
Carlos Gonzalez | 133 | 553 | 0.377 | | | Bryce Harper | 144 | 632 | 0.389 |
Chris Davis | 149 | 612 | 0.377 | | | Joe Mauer | 147 | 649 | 0.386 |
Jose Abreu | 130 | 538 | 0.375 | | | Ryan Braun | 152 | 665 | 0.386 |
Prince Fielder | 155 | 669 | 0.372 | | | Prince Fielder | 156 | 677 | 0.385 |
Paul Goldschmidt | 156 | 668 | 0.372 | | | David Wright | 145 | 637 | 0.384 |
Of the two top 15 lists, 12 players overlap. ZiPS includes Abreu, Davis, and Bautista while the Fans have tabbed McCutchen, Mauer, and Wright. Of the 12 players that overlapped, Fans averaged a 10 point higher wOBA projection.
With the notable exception of Mauer, the 20 players on this list are among the most likely in baseball to hit over 30 home runs. Other players who are projected to hit 30 home runs by one of the two systems are Mark Trumbo, Jay Bruce, Pedro Alvarez, Chris Carter, Adam Jones, and Alfonso Soriano.
Top 15 Defense
Name | G | Fld | | | Name | G | Fld |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Andrelton Simmons | 143 | 16 | | | Andrelton Simmons | 154 | 18 |
Manny Machado | 156 | 14 | | | Manny Machado | 138 | 15 |
Gerardo Parra | 151 | 14 | | | Josh Reddick | 140 | 15 |
Craig Gentry | 113 | 13 | | | Juan Lagares | 134 | 15 |
Starling Marte | 138 | 12 | | | Jason Heyward | 147 | 14 |
Jason Heyward | 134 | 12 | | | Nolan Arenado | 148 | 14 |
Shane Victorino | 132 | 11 | | | Lorenzo Cain | 123 | 13 |
Carlos Gomez | 138 | 11 | | | Gerardo Parra | 140 | 13 |
Juan Uribe | 103 | 11 | | | Starling Marte | 144 | 12 |
Nolan Arenado | 154 | 11 | | | Carlos Gomez | 145 | 12 |
Gregory Polanco | 132 | 11 | | | Evan Longoria | 148 | 11 |
Juan Lagares | 142 | 10 | | | Jose Iglesias | 143 | 11 |
Darwin Barney | 152 | 10 | | | Darwin Barney | 131 | 11 |
Dustin Pedroia | 145 | 10 | | | Dustin Pedroia | 153 | 10 |
Josh Reddick | 140 | 10 | | | Alex Gordon | 155 | 10 |
Alex Gordon | 155 | 10 | Shane Victorino | 133 | 10 |
12 of the top 15 defensive projections are shared by the two systems. There’s generally less discrepancy between the fielding projections compared with wOBA. Both ZiPS and the Fans like Simmons and Machado a ton. ZiPS includes Uribe, Gentry, and Polanco while the Fans favor Cain, Longoria, and Iglesias. Polanco and Iglesias are a little bit odd as “choices.” Polanco has a big playing time projection from ZiPS but probably won’t hit the field for 132 games. Maybe he will. Iglesias comes with excellent scouting reports on his defense, but his work to date is inconclusive. He was very good in a tiny 2012 sample and then roughly league average in his 2013 half season sample.
Top 10 Baserunning
Name | Games | BsR | | | Name | G | BsR |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Billy Hamilton | 140 | 7.3 | | | Everth Cabrera | 140 | 6.9 |
Mike Trout | 156 | 5.2 | | | Billy Hamilton | 133 | 6.8 |
Jarrod Dyson | 111 | 4.6 | | | Carlos Gomez | 145 | 5.2 |
Billy Burns | 112 | 4.4 | | | Jacoby Ellsbury | 136 | 4.9 |
Quintin Berry | 117 | 4.1 | | | Mike Trout | 145 | 4.2 |
Tony Campana | 136 | 3.8 | | | Ben Revere | 144 | 4.1 |
Carlos Gomez | 138 | 3.7 | | | Rajai Davis | 101 | 3.9 |
Everth Cabrera | 109 | 3.7 | | | Jean Segura | 152 | 3.9 |
Eric Young | 129 | 3.7 | | | Jonathan Villar | 120 | 3.9 |
Rajai Davis | 118 | 3.6 | | | Eric Young | 102 | 3.9 |
I restricted this list to the top 10, since base runner value drops towards average very quickly. Last season, only 18 players provided over five runs of value on the bases. Obviously, our projections expect a lot of regression to league average.
ZiPS includes bullish playing time projections for a lot of backup players. Dyson, Burns, Berry, and Campana are very unlikely to play enough to make good on these numbers. They serve as a reminder that speed alone is not enough to start in the majors.
Top 20 Starter ERA
Name | ERA | IP | K/9 | BB/9 | FIP | | | Name | ERA | IP | K/9 | BB/9 | FIP |
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Clayton Kershaw | 2.26 | 227.3 | 9.23 | 2.14 | 2.55 | | | Clayton Kershaw | 2.40 | 233 | 9.31 | 2.12 | 2.60 |
Jose Fernandez | 2.57 | 154 | 9.53 | 3.16 | 2.86 | | | Jose Fernandez | 2.82 | 202 | 9.62 | 2.9 | 2.99 |
Stephen Strasburg | 2.83 | 149.7 | 9.86 | 2.46 | 2.95 | | | Stephen Strasburg | 2.84 | 202 | 9.76 | 2.58 | 2.99 |
Madison Bumgarner | 2.86 | 204.7 | 8.62 | 2.37 | 3.09 | | | Cliff Lee | 2.86 | 227 | 8.6 | 1.27 | 2.92 |
Zack Greinke | 2.95 | 192 | 8.25 | 2.06 | 3.00 | | | Madison Bumgarner | 2.89 | 216 | 8.71 | 2.29 | 2.92 |
Matt Harvey | 3.01 | 164.3 | 9.15 | 2.68 | 2.99 | | | Yu Darvish | 2.93 | 218 | 11.11 | 3.34 | 3.12 |
Yu Darvish | 3.03 | 201.7 | 11.74 | 3.53 | 3.17 | | | Felix Hernandez | 2.96 | 228 | 9.08 | 2.21 | 2.76 |
Cliff Lee | 3.04 | 198.3 | 8.85 | 1.41 | 2.91 | | | Matt Harvey | 3.02 | 75 | 9.48 | 2.28 | 2.65 |
Felix Hernandez | 3.07 | 211.3 | 9.37 | 2.13 | 2.74 | | | Adam Wainwright | 3.03 | 222 | 8.35 | 1.74 | 2.76 |
Justin Verlander | 3.07 | 216.7 | 9.34 | 2.49 | 3.00 | | | Justin Verlander | 3.06 | 226 | 8.8 | 2.55 | 3.23 |
David Price | 3.09 | 198 | 8.59 | 2.09 | 3.09 | | | Zack Greinke | 3.07 | 205 | 8.25 | 2.24 | 3.11 |
Gio Gonzalez | 3.15 | 188.3 | 8.75 | 3.3 | 3.30 | | | Matt Cain | 3.10 | 216 | 7.58 | 2.5 | 3.48 |
Cory Luebke | 3.16 | 71.3 | 8.96 | 2.78 | 3.08 | | | David Price | 3.10 | 224 | 8.32 | 2.01 | 3.16 |
Johnny Cueto | 3.17 | 136.3 | 6.74 | 2.31 | 3.52 | | | Johnny Cueto | 3.13 | 169 | 7.4 | 2.5 | 3.56 |
Chris Sale | 3.17 | 204.3 | 9.87 | 2.16 | 3.14 | | | Chris Sale | 3.14 | 213 | 9.3 | 2.15 | 3.05 |
Doug Fister | 3.19 | 192 | 6.75 | 1.69 | 3.18 | | | Gerrit Cole | 3.15 | 198 | 8.77 | 2.5 | 2.94 |
Andrew Cashner | 3.19 | 141 | 7.02 | 2.49 | 3.32 | | | Mat Latos | 3.16 | 217 | 8.38 | 2.45 | 3.22 |
Matt Cain | 3.19 | 191.7 | 7.7 | 2.39 | 3.47 | | | Sonny Gray | 3.17 | 179 | 8.8 | 2.77 | 3.20 |
Adam Wainwright | 3.20 | 208.3 | 7.91 | 1.69 | 2.88 | | | Hisashi Iwakuma | 3.17 | 204 | 7.37 | 2.03 | 3.69 |
Hisashi Iwakuma | 3.23 | 195 | 8.03 | 1.85 | 3.44 | | | Cole Hamels | 3.19 | 224 | 8.56 | 2.13 | 3.20 |
We observe some agreement with our starting pitcher top 20 list – 16 out of 20. The divergences are Gonzalez, Luebke, Fister, and Cashner on the ZiPS side. Fans includes Cole, Latos, Gray, and Hamels.
ZiPS doesn’t know about the injuries to Harvey or Luebke. The Fans do, yet they still projected 75 innings for Harvey. Unless the Mets are in the playoff race, Harvey will almost certainly be eased back into action. A 75 inning projection basically says he’ll be back around the All Star break, which would be quite ambitious. Cueto could make for an interesting story this year. Both systems think he’ll perform very well when healthy, they’re just not willing to count on that health.
The Fans seem more willing to believe in sophomores like Cole and Gray. ZiPS only includes Fernandez and Iwakuma. That might highlight a shortcoming of either system. Perhaps ZiPS is too conservative with young pitchers or maybe the fans fall too far in love with the next big thing.
Top 20 Reliever ERA
Name | ERA | IP | K/9 | BB/9 | FIP | | | Name | ERA | IP | K/9 | BB/9 | FIP |
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Craig Kimbrel | 1.43 | 69 | 14.48 | 2.74 | 1.58 | | | Kenley Jansen | 2.25 | 71 | 13.18 | 2.28 | 2.06 |
Kenley Jansen | 1.91 | 70.7 | 13.75 | 2.67 | 2.11 | | | Craig Kimbrel | 2.26 | 70 | 13.5 | 2.44 | 1.69 |
Koji Uehara | 2.07 | 52.3 | 12.22 | 1.2 | 2.03 | | | Koji Uehara | 2.31 | 69 | 11.66 | 1.39 | 2.25 |
Aroldis Chapman | 2.21 | 65.3 | 14.75 | 4 | 2.44 | | | Greg Holland | 2.38 | 66 | 12.55 | 2.59 | 1.81 |
Trevor Rosenthal | 2.37 | 79.7 | 11.63 | 2.71 | 2.37 | | | Aroldis Chapman | 2.39 | 70 | 13.44 | 3.36 | 2.34 |
Sergio Romo | 2.39 | 52.7 | 9.91 | 1.88 | 2.52 | | | Sean Marshall | 2.42 | 63 | 9.45 | 2.1 | 2.35 |
Joaquin Benoit | 2.55 | 60 | 11.25 | 2.85 | 2.63 | | | Sergio Romo | 2.44 | 64 | 9.69 | 1.66 | 2.49 |
Sean Marshall | 2.68 | 40.3 | 9.83 | 2.46 | 2.80 | | | David Robertson | 2.44 | 65 | 11.22 | 2.63 | 2.52 |
Jason Grilli | 2.68 | 50.3 | 11.45 | 2.86 | 2.61 | | | Javier Lopez | 2.45 | 71 | 7.74 | 2.93 | 2.68 |
David Robertson | 2.71 | 63 | 12.14 | 3.14 | 2.68 | | | Mark Melancon | 2.48 | 68 | 8.62 | 1.77 | 2.50 |
Mark Melancon | 2.75 | 68.7 | 8.38 | 1.83 | 2.64 | | | Trevor Rosenthal | 2.51 | 66 | 11.55 | 2.55 | 2.39 |
Glen Perkins | 2.79 | 61.3 | 10.86 | 2.5 | 2.84 | | | Joe Nathan | 2.54 | 68 | 10.19 | 2.78 | 2.75 |
Tyler Clippard | 2.80 | 70.7 | 10.31 | 3.06 | 3.33 | | | Steve Cishek | 2.58 | 68 | 9.53 | 3.18 | 2.65 |
Steve Cishek | 2.81 | 64 | 9.42 | 3.23 | 2.99 | | | Glen Perkins | 2.58 | 61 | 10.43 | 2.14 | 2.78 |
Sean Doolittle | 2.87 | 69 | 9.91 | 2.48 | 2.70 | | | Darren O’Day | 2.61 | 67 | 8.87 | 2.01 | 3.20 |
Joe Nathan | 2.90 | 52.7 | 10.42 | 2.73 | 2.69 | | | Ryan Cook | 2.63 | 59 | 9.26 | 3.26 | 2.92 |
Jordan Walden | 2.93 | 52.3 | 10.67 | 3.27 | 2.82 | | | Bobby Parnell | 2.65 | 60 | 8.11 | 2.36 | 2.98 |
Grant Balfour | 2.98 | 57.3 | 10.05 | 3.46 | 3.33 | | | Eric O’Flaherty | 2.65 | 59 | 7.23 | 2.57 | 3.33 |
Ryan Cook | 3.01 | 68.7 | 9.56 | 3.67 | 3.27 | | | Aaron Loup | 2.70 | 60 | 6.93 | 1.77 | 3.21 |
Paco Rodriguez | 3.02 | 41.7 | 10.14 | 3.45 | 3.34 | | | Kevin Siegrist | 2.75 | 60 | 9.78 | 3.72 | 2.89 |
Not surprisingly, there’s the least agreement with our reliever list. Only 14 of the 20 names are shared on both lists. ZiPS appears more bullish on strikeout rates than the Fans. It’s interesting to see that the Fans expect a ever-so-slightly better ERA from Jansen than Kimbrel, but a glance at the FIP column shows that it’s just a quirk of the process. Marshall missed most of 2013, but both ZiPS and the Fans foresee a quick return to form.
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You were right… that was indeed fun. Mild fun, which is my favorite kind of fun, as well as the fun I most associate with Cistulli.
I also associate leaderboards with Cistulli, but they make for a good topic when the prevailing news is #oscars. I didn’t think I could pass Axford’s 18-for-18 night as a FanGraphs article. NotGraphs sure.