The Present and Future of Rob Refsnyder
The Yankees boasted one of the best offenses in baseball in the season’s first half. Heading into the All-Star break, the team ranks third in the American League wRC+ and second in runs scored. But very little of this run scoring has come from the second base position, where the team has mustered only a 64 wRC+. Stephen Drew, with his 229 plate appearances of 69 wRC+, has been the primary culprit.
The Yankees second base situation just got a bit better, however. Or at least it did on the offensive side of things. The team called up rookie second baseman Rob Refsnyder on Saturday. The Bombers faced off against two left-handed pitchers over the weekend, making it an ideal time to break in their right-handed rookie second baseman. Refsnyder accumulated two hits in his first two games, including a towering home run off of Alexi Ogando yesterday.
A glance at Refsnyder’s minor league numbers makes it pretty obvious that his bat is just about big league ready. He posted a 146 wRC+ between Double-A and Triple-A last year, had a dominant spring training and followed it up by hitting .290/.387/.413 (136 wRC+) through this season’s first three months. The projection systems — ZiPS and Steamer — feel he could be nearly a league-average hitter right now, which would be no small feat coming from a second baseman.
Refsnyder’s biggest offensive asset is his ability to control the strike zone. He walked and struck out an equal amount — 12% — in Triple-A Scranton this year, and has posted better-than-average strikeout and walk numbers throughout his pro career. He compliments these plus strikeout and walk numbers with modest power and speed, making or a solid overall offensive package.
Although he didn’t get much run in prospect circles until the last year or so, Refsnyder’s been putting up impressive numbers for some time now. Before the Yankees took him in the fifth round back in 2012, he hit .364/.453/.562 in his junior year at the University of Arizona, giving him the second highest OPS in the Pac-12. He was also named the College World Series Most Outstanding Player. Refsnyder’s offensive successes aren’t anything new.
Based on his 2015 numbers, KATOH thinks Refsnyder has a decent big league career ahead of him. My system pegs him for 3.3 WAR through age-28, which would have put him 145th overall on KATOH’s preseason list. This is a couple notches lower than his preseason projection of 5.0 WAR, which was based on his 2014 stats. The drop-off is the result of his numbers coming back to earth following his .342/.385/.548 showing in Double-A in last season’s first half.
Let’s pull up some comps. Using league-adjusted, regressed stats, along with age, I calculated the Mahalanobis Distance between Refsnyder’s performance and every Triple-A season since 1990 in which a batter recorded at least 400 plate appearances. Below, you’ll find a list of historical players whose performances were nearest and dearest to Refsnyder’s, ranked from most to least similar.
| Rank | Mah | Name | PA thru 28 | WAR thru 28 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 0.37 | Callix Crabbe | 39 | 0.0 |
| 2 | 0.57 | Chris Clapinski | 121 | 0.3 |
| 3 | 0.74 | Johnny Giavotella* | 770 | 0.0 |
| 4 | 0.89 | Rob Ryan | 70 | 0.0 |
| 5 | 0.89 | Alex Arias | 1,013 | 2.0 |
| 6 | 0.90 | Felipe Crespo | 523 | 0.1 |
| 7 | 0.94 | Brad Nelson | 31 | 0.0 |
| 8 | 0.94 | Jon Saffer | 0 | 0.0 |
| 9 | 0.96 | Joe Hall | 31 | 0.4 |
| 10 | 1.02 | Yamaico Navarro* | 199 | 0.0 |
| 11 | 1.06 | Marco Scutaro | 606 | 0.0 |
| 12 | 1.10 | Bill Masse | 0 | 0.0 |
| 13 | 1.13 | Tony Medrano | 0 | 0.0 |
| 14 | 1.14 | Matt Watson | 75 | 0.0 |
| 15 | 1.15 | Chris Carter | 206 | 0.0 |
| 16 | 1.16 | Paul Lo Duca | 199 | 0.6 |
| 17 | 1.21 | Alejandro Machado | 6 | 0.1 |
| 18 | 1.23 | F.P. Santangelo | 580 | 4.4 |
| 19 | 1.25 | Cord Phelps* | 126 | 0.0 |
| 20 | 1.37 | Chris Getz | 1,309 | 1.6 |
*Batters who have yet to play their age-28 season.
And here’s a list containing only players who were primarily middle infielders in Triple-A.
| Rank | Mah | Name | PA thru 28 | WAR thru 28 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 0.37 | Callix Crabbe | 39 | 0.0 |
| 2 | 0.57 | Chris Clapinski | 121 | 0.3 |
| 3 | 0.74 | Johnny Giavotella* | 770 | 0.0 |
| 4 | 0.89 | Alex Arias | 1,013 | 2.0 |
| 5 | 0.90 | Felipe Crespo | 523 | 0.1 |
| 6 | 1.02 | Yamaico Navarro* | 199 | 0.0 |
| 7 | 1.06 | Marco Scutaro | 606 | 0.0 |
| 8 | 1.13 | Tony Medrano | 0 | 0.0 |
| 9 | 1.21 | Alejandro Machado | 6 | 0.1 |
| 10 | 1.23 | F.P. Santangelo | 580 | 4.4 |
| 11 | 1.25 | Cord Phelps* | 126 | 0.0 |
| 12 | 1.37 | Chris Getz | 1,309 | 1.6 |
| 13 | 1.38 | Brent Abernathy | 955 | 0.0 |
| 14 | 1.41 | Greg Garcia* | 31 | 0.2 |
| 15 | 1.49 | Chad Meyers | 237 | 0.0 |
| 16 | 1.53 | Eric Sogard | 930 | 1.6 |
*Batters who have yet to play their age-28 season.
Quite frankly, that’s a pretty underwhelming collection of players. Guys like Crabbe, Clapinski and Giavotella performed very similarly to Refsnyder in the minors, but all failed to carry their success over into the big leagues; although Giavotella seems to finally be finally figuring things out in his age-27 season. Further down, we find a couple of moderately successful players in Alex Arias and F.P. Santangelo. Both hung around the league for a while, but were never quite good enough to be everyday players. Marco Scutaro, who had a solid career, but didn’t get the chance to start until his late 20’s, also shows up.
For obvious reasons, the lack of success stories among Refsnyder’s comps is concerning. But keep in mind that this is just a small selection of players who happened to perform similarly to Refsnyder in Triple-A. Refsnyder’s KATOH forecast, which is based on the fortunes of all Triple-A players rather than just a few, is likely the more telling analysis. And KATOH is relatively bullish on the 24-year-old’s future.
Refsnyder’s bat is interesting, especially coming from a second baseman. But his defense at second is still thought to be a bit shaky. As a converted outfielder, he’s still learning the intricacies of playing second base. He showed his inexperience at the position when he missed a throw from Andrew Miller in the ninth inning of yesterday’s game. His defense is the primary reason why he’s stayed in the minors up until now, while the Yankees have trotted out the likes of Brian Roberts, Stephen Drew, Jose Pirela, and Gregorio Petit at second the last couple of years.
In fairness to Refsnyder, his defense has gotten substantially better since he converted to the infield in 2013. As an A-baller in 2013, he had a fielding percentage of just .943, but has posted marks of .977 and .966 last year and this year, respectively. Baseball Prospectus’ minor league FRAA numbers tell a similar story. By this data, Refsnyder went from being a very poor defender in A-Ball in 2013 to an above-average one in Triple-A this year. As is always the case with defensive metrics, small sample caveats apply, but that’s still quite the improvement.
Plus, while his 13 errors in 73 Triple-A games this year are concerning, five of them took place in his first nine games. It appears as though he’s straightened things out a bit since then. No one would mistake Refsnyder for a good defender, but at the very least, his defense isn’t the train wreck it once was. Here are a couple of less-than-routine plays he made in his last week in the minors, captured in the low-definition.
And here’s one he almost made. Although the throw didn’t quite get there in time, he showed decent range to even get the this ball.
Regardless of how Refsnyder ultimately develops with the glove, his bat makes him worthy of our attention. Unless he suddenly starts hitting for power, Refsnyder will probably never be a star. But even so, his performance in the high minors suggests he could hold his own at the plate in the majors. And given the low offensive bar for second basemen, Refsnyder stands a decent chance of hitting enough to be an everyday player.
As of this writing, Refsnyder’s immediate future in the Bronx isn’t immediately clear. The Yankees haven’t indicated wether he’ll remain with the team after the All-Star break, when Carlos Beltran and Brendan Ryan return from the disabled list. But given how well he’s performed of late, and the team’s lack of alternatives at the keystone, it’s clear that the best Yankees roster in 2015 has Refsnyder on it. He’s almost certainly a better hitter than Stephen Drew et al. And given his improvements on defense, he shouldn’t be much of a liability in the field, either.
Chris works in economic development by day, but spends most of his nights thinking about baseball. He writes for Pinstripe Pundits, FanGraphs and The Hardball Times. He's also on the twitter machine: @_chris_mitchell None of the views expressed in his articles reflect those of his daytime employer.





Thanks to this guy, no room for me on the Yankees depth chart. 🙁
Rob Refsnyder reminded me a bit of Scutaro when I watched him, can’t be worse than what Drew has done. Certainly a lot cheaper.
“can’t be worse” is the most overused phrase when discussing call ups. it *can* be worse. it can always be worse. he could be david adams with worse defense. has drew set a high bar? no. but he could be worse
Drew has a 118 wRC+ since June 1. When will people realize not to rely on cumulative stats at the ASB which can be heavily skewed by a bad or good first 1-2 months.
So you refute a small sample size with an even smaller sample size…
No
good 4 you, kid. Got a pretty interesting story too if I recall correctly . Born to a very poor family in S.korea put up for adoption and then was raised by foster parents in the US. Rooting for the kid to make it
Refsnyder went to U Arizona, not Arizona State. The one in Tucson.
It is virtually impossible for Refsnyder to perform worse than Drew. If I am the Yankees, I would give Refsnyder the 2B job, and keep Drew as the backup infielder. DFA Brendan Ryan. If not for Ryan’s health concerns, I’d probably keep him as the backup infielder over Drew simply because he bats right handed, and Didi Gregorious is worthless against lefties. As it is, I’m not sure you can count on Ryan to be available to back up. …the Yankees have some seriously bad hitting middle infielders.
I’d Keep Ryan of Pirela who’s really struggled with MLB pitching. Pirela can be easily optioned back and forth when Ryan needs DL time. His 2015 option is already used why not take advantage? Between Ryan/Pirela and Drew that’s two useful backup infielders. If there’s a long-term injury maybe the yankees do something else but so long as Beltran can play the outfield and Drew/Ryan/Pirela can handle third once in a while there’s no need for a more dramatic roster move to keep Refsnyder. Assuming the Yankees don’t trade for Zobrist or something.
I don’t see how you can justify keeping both Drew and Ryan on the roster when both are basically the same glove without a bat. Why not use that spot for an extra outfielder or an extra bullpen arm?
There’d be space for only one of Ryan, Pirela, and Drew if Ref is on the roster. They carry 13 position players. 9 starters: McCann, Tex, Ref(?), Didi, Headley, Ellsbury, Gardner, Beltran, and ARod.
4 man bench: Murphy, Young, Jones, and 1 IF.
If they are to keep Ref, and Beltran and Ryan are ready as expected after the break, 1 of Ryan (most likely cut), Drew, or I suppose possibly Jones would need to go.
If there was a Mendoza line for on base percentage, Stephen Drew might be it.
The Line Stephen Drew?
We don’t care if it makes the team better or worse, but we want to see him given the job at 2B. Keep drew as Middle Infielder, DFA ryan, and keep tabs on Pirela who has had his option used. We just cant watch Drew with RISP anymore.
Refsnyder, not Refsndyer.
When Beltran and Ryan come back, it is likely that Petit and Bryan Mitchell will be optioned to triple A. I could also see Jones getting DFA’d to keep the extra RP.
I’m just hoping for a 95 wRC+ with -5 defense for the rest of the season, haha.
They aren’t going to DFA Jones. They need somebody to backup Tex on days off. They tried rolling with McCann last year and it was a disaster. That, and the Yanks are committed to keeping their other “option” (Arod) off the field. The hole that the Yanks wanted to fill in the off season will only reappear if they let Jones go. He’s pretty much performed in accordance with expectations as well.
Refsnyder is the Yankees’ version of Devon Travis. They are the same age. Neither was widely acclaimed as a prospect, but in the minors they both drew walks and avoided too many strikeouts while hitting for decent power for a 2Bman.
I would not be surprised if they both average something along the lines of .280/.350/.420 with 8 to 10 SB and acceptable (but mediocre) defense at 2B. As such, they should be solid regulars who enjoy reasonably lengthy and lucrative careers.
These guys remind me of Jay Bell (the Pirate Jay Bell, not the Diamondback HR-hitting Jay Bell).
Drew has had a 798 OPS since June 1 with 12 HR. wRC+ of 118
Ref was 1-6 in the 2 games against Boston before getting a hanger that he slammed 366 ft STD distance per hit tracker, a HR in only 16 other MLB parks. He also made a key error causing an errant throw due to his late arrival to 2B that cost runs in the 9th.
I believe Ref will likely be a decent MLB player, but he is not playing in a park that going to help him
Are you Stephen Drew’s agent?
No park in existence can help Stephen Drew, no matter how you cherry pick the data.
If you want to break it down, Drew had a .526 OPS through May 30th. From June 1st to June 22nd, his OPS was .941. After June 22nd he started heading downhill again, with an OPS of .508 since.
Basically, Drew had a great hot streak for the first three weeks of June, but he’s been terrible outside of those three weeks.
i think callix crabbe played for double-a hogwarts
Iall players are good, Iall of the time, according to the fortune tellers…