The 2017 Free Agent Landmines

Yesterday, we looked at the five players I think have the best chance to outperform their expected contracts among this class of free agents. Today, we’re going the other direction, looking at the five players I think represent the biggest chances to be regrettable contracts.

Last year, this was an easier task. With a pretty deep free agent class, it wasn’t that hard to find five guys who looked like overpay candidates, and so I tagged Dexter Fowler, Yovani Gallardo, Justin Upton, Jordan Zimmermann, and Chris Davis as the five guys to avoid. Fowler, of course, was also treated as something of a landmine by the league, and ended up being one of the best bargains of the off-season after re-signing with the Cubs for one year. The other four, though, lived up to landmine status, combining for a grand total of about +6 WAR despite making about $75 million between them.

This year, finding five guys to fit here was tougher. The diminished free agent class means there are just fewer guys who are going to command big deals, and fewer guys getting big contracts means there are fewer guys who will sign albatross deals. So, while we’re still naming five guys to avoid, the magnitude of the problem if a team signs one of these players will likely be a lot smaller; we’re mostly talking overpays of $10 or $20 million or something, not $50 million like some of the guys last year. These guys are probably inefficient signings, but not franchise-killing disasters.

With that said, let’s get to the guys I’d suggest avoiding this winter.

Contract Estimate
Type Years AAV Total
Dave Cameron 2 $14.0 M $28.0 M
Avg Crowdsource 3 $12.7 M $40.3 M
Median Crowdsource 3 $12.0 M $36.0 M
2017 Steamer Forecast
Age PA BB% K% AVG OBP SLG wOBA wRC+ Off Def WAR
31 416 7.1% 19.9% .245 .302 .407 .306 88 -7.1 12.0 1.9

If you just look at the numbers in that table, the production for the price looks just fine. Almost +2 WAR for $13 million per year, without a super long commitment? What’s wrong with that? Well, Wieters is the exact kind of player our current version of WAR does the worst job valuing. And yes, we’re working on fixing that, but right now, this forecast ignores the impact of framing, and Wieters consistently ranks as one of the worst catchers at getting marginal calls to go his team’s way.

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Realistically, Wieters limitations in helping his pitchers means that he probably shouldn’t be your everyday catcher, as he doesn’t hit enough to offset the defensive issues. He’s something like a +1 WAR catcher, good enough to be a part-time guy, but not valuable enough to be the primary catcher for a team trying to win. And heading into his age-31 season, he’s headed for the end of his career, and might not even be able to stick behind the plate for the length of the contract he’ll get this winter. And if he ends up as a 1B/DH by the time the deal is done, based on what he’s done at the plate in his career, he may not even be worth rostering. Of all the free agents this winter, Wieters looks like the one most likely to get released during the deal he’s about to sign, and there isn’t a lot of short-term value either.

Contract Estimate
Type Years AAV Total
Dave Cameron 2 $11.0 M $22.0 M
Avg Crowdsource 2 $9.7 M $17.3 M
Median Crowdsource 2 $10.0 M $20.0 M
2017 Steamer Forecast
Age PA BB% K% AVG OBP SLG wOBA wRC+ Off Def WAR
34 595 8.1% 19.9% .265 .331 .470 .341 112 4.7 -14.6 1.1

This landmine has already been stepped on, as the Blue Jays signed Morales to a three year, $33 million contract on Friday. As I noted in the write-up of that signing, Morales is close to an average offensive player because of his inability to run, making his hits less valuable since they don’t lead to runs at the same rate as players with more athleticism. An average-offense 34-year-old DH isn’t a particularly valuable thing, and while I know the Jays wanted some balance with another left-handed bat in their line-up, they probably should have done better than Morales, or at this level of production, not had to pay so much.

In a bunch of ways, this reminds me of the Billy Butler deal with the A’s. $30 million for a guy who has had some good offensive years doesn’t sound like a bad deal, but there’s an offensively-challenged Royals team let both of these guys go. Morales might be decent enough to keep his spot in the line-up for 2017, but the last two years on the deal, the Jays will be on the hook for $11 million salaries to a guy probably not good enough to start, and it’s not easy to roster a backup DH who can’t run.

Contract Estimate
Type Years AAV Total
Dave Cameron 4 $21.0 M $84.0 M
Avg Crowdsource 4 $21.4 M $90.4 M
Median Crowdsource 4 $22.0 M $88.0 M
2017 Steamer Forecast
Age PA BB% K% AVG OBP SLG wOBA wRC+ Off Def WAR
34 630 12.2% 18.7% .255 .351 .493 .360 125 18.0 -15.8 2.3

For Jays fans who wish they would have just re-signed Encarnacion instead of signing Morales, though, that might not have worked out much better. Encarnacion is definitely still better than Morales, but he probably wasn’t going to be any kind of bargain either. Paying one-dimensional power hitters in their mid-30s is a big risk, because any real decrease in power makes the rest of the package not work very well. And no one should be that confident that Encarnacion will maintain elite power through his mid-30s.

For 2017, Encarnacion will probably be fine, and help whatever team signs him. But the long-term cost of getting one or maybe two good years will be staggeringly high when all is said and done; it’s not just the $80 to $90 million in salary that we’re forecasting he’ll get, but the signing team will also have to pay an additional tax by surrendering a draft choice, potentially tacking another $5 to $10 million in price onto the cost of the deal. For Encarnacion to be worth something close to $100 million (once the draft pick tax is included), he’d have to essentially defy aging, and stay one of the game’s best sluggers for the next three or four years. That’s probably not going to happen, and instead, the team that winds up with Encarnacion will probably get a short boost that they regret down the line.

Contract Estimate
Type Years AAV Total
Dave Cameron 4 $15.0 M $60.0 M
Avg Crowdsource 4 $13.6 M $47.0 M
Median Crowdsource 3 $14.0 M $42.0 M
2017 Steamer Forecast
Age IP BB% K% GB% ERA FIP xFIP WAR RA9-WAR
32 65.0 6.0% 22.6% 53.0% 3.22 3.23 3.40 1.0 1.0

It’s no secret that relievers are in for some big paydays this winter, and Melancon will benefit from that rising tide, likely pushing over $50 million with his upcoming contract, and maybe getting well over that; I’ve heard guesses for his next deal as high as $70 million. And while Melancon has been an excellent reliever for the last four years, how long that will last is a little bit questionable.

Melancon’s core skill is generating weak contact; over the last four years, he’s held batters to a .266 BABIP and only 5.9% of his flyballs have gone for home runs. With excellent command of an elite cutter, Melancon has been able to dominate hitters without racking up that many strikeouts. But the margin of error for that kind of approach is pretty narrow, and as Jonathan Papelbon showed last year, you can go from high-quality closer to out of work pretty quickly with just a small downturn in command. Without a dominant strikeout pitch, there’s just not a lot to fall back on if the cutter loses effectiveness or the command takes a wrong turn, and Mariano Rivera aside, guys who succeed like this generally don’t have super long runs as high-end arms.

As long as Melancon can maintain pinpoint command and get batters to make weak contact, he’ll be a good reliever, but I don’t think I’d bet $50-$70 million on that skillset aging well.

Contract Estimate
Type Years AAV Total
Dave Cameron 4 $16.5 M $66.0 M
Avg Crowdsource 4 $16.1 M $59.2 M
Median Crowdsource 4 $16.0 M $64.0 M
2017 Steamer Forecast
Age PA BB% K% AVG OBP SLG wOBA wRC+ Off Def WAR
31 595 7.7% 25.1% .254 .314 .480 .337 109 5.3 -13.6 1.2

You knew this was coming. A year ago, Mark Trumbo’s market value wasn’t even high enough to be included in a one-for-one swap for Steve Clevenger, a journeyman minor leaguer; the Mariners had to throw in an extra player in order to make that deal. 47 home runs later, and Trumbo is now looking at a big paycheck this winter. Except he’s basically still Mark Trumbo.

The 2016 power spike was fun and all, but it is about as unsustainable as anything gets; 63% of Trumbo’s extra base hits went for home runs last year, which even the sluggiest sluggers who ever slugged can’t keep up over a long period of time. Some of those balls that went over the wall are going to naturally turn back into doubles, and without some late-career improvement in walk or strikeout rate, Trumbo will likely again resemble the decent-but-not-great hitter that he was before 2016.

And realistically, even with the 47 homers last year, he still wasn’t that great; his 123 wRC+ tied him with the Khris Davis, Jonathan Lucroy, Evan Longoria, and Ian Kinsler; how valuable would those guys be if they provided no value in the field? And that was his career year. Trumbo’s career 111 wRC+ puts him more in line with guys like Jay Bruce, or the 2016 version of Yasmany Tomas. And now Trumbo is selling his age 31-34/35 seasons. And you have to give up a draft pick for the right to bet on an aging complementary player whose career year made him a +2 WAR player. Yeah.

Trumbo’s a good enough defensive first baseman, and has enough power, that he’d be a useful player for a team with a hole at first base for a few years. But the right price for his value in that role is probably something like $30-40 million, not $60 million and a draft pick. Because MLB teams have gotten a lot better at valuing player performance, Trumbo won’t get a crazy overpay like he would have five years ago, but even in this market, he’s probably still not going to be a guy you want on your team next year.





Dave is the Managing Editor of FanGraphs.

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JG007
9 years ago

Draft pick on Melancon? Qualifying Offer guys are the only ones with draft pick comp, right?

output gap
9 years ago
Reply to  JG007

No draft pick for Melancon. He was traded from PIT to WAS mid-season.

Dooduh
9 years ago

Trumbo will pretty easily get 4/64 or more. And the value is far better at 1B than corner OF obviously. I’d look at him to replace one of the middle of the order bats in TOR. BAL and TOR are prob the 2 best places for him… or if Tribe doesn’t re-sign Napoli. Both (TOR & CLE) would only lose a late 1st rounder.

BAL might be better off trying to acquire a LHed hitting RFer such as Bruce or CarGo.

bananas
9 years ago
Reply to  Dooduh

I think it’s telling that Napoli and Trumbo project to be basically the same player next year, yet one will get $60m and one didn’t even get a QO. I realize age is very different, but napoli’s shirtless post-championship city strolls should count for something too.

baltic wolfMember since 2026
9 years ago
Reply to  Dooduh

The Rockies need a first baseman. Trumbo may be a terrible OF, but he has been a decent fielding first baseman when he’s played that position. (In fact, there was some debate among Orioles fans during spring training whether Chris Davis should be moved to RF and Trumbo should play at 1B.)
So if Trumbo signs with the Rockies, just how many of those 47 home runs will turn to doubles, as Dave Cameron says?
Nonetheless, it’s more likely that he will stay in the AL and be a DH for somebody and fill in as a 1B when necessary.
And my guess is that the Orioles will sign, or come close to signing, Josh Reddick as their left-handed hitting RF. To acquire either CarGo or Bruce would require parting with an established player or something from their farm system (which is barren). And given the albatross of a contract they gave Chris Davis last year, there’s little payroll flexibility to afford either one.

Dooduh
9 years ago
Reply to  baltic wolf

If they didn’t have the 11th pick at stake they’d make sense.

SeattleBlue
9 years ago
Reply to  Dooduh

What does this mean?

Pirates HurdlesMember since 2024
9 years ago
Reply to  SeattleBlue

The Rockies stand to lose the 11th overall pick in the draft if they sign Trumbo. Effectively they have the very most to lose of any team by signing a QO FA (1st 10 picks are protected).

SeattleBlue
9 years ago

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jim fetterolf
9 years ago

Morales in the small parks of the AL East might be a good enough deal.

VottomanEmpireMember since 2025
9 years ago
Reply to  jim fetterolf

If Morales benefits from the park effect, then so does anyone else they sign, and this has no impact on whether the deal is a good value. For this statement to be meaningful, you’d need to assert why Morales would uniquely benefit, and provide benefit to the Blue Jays.

ice_hawk10
9 years ago
Reply to  VottomanEmpire

well he’s a power hitter for starters, and one that has trended increasingly towards flyballs in recent years. plus the park effect factor is not uniform since the adjustment depends on where the player is coming from. for example, had they signed Trumbo, you would expect no boost to his numbers or maybe even a small hit. Morales has spent the vast majority of his career in parks that consistently rank in the bottom third of the league for HRs from both sides of the plate. i dont love the signing, but i do expect his value to be maximized in Toronto relative to KC.

Moranall
9 years ago
Reply to  ice_hawk10

Park factors are already included into wRC+. So if Morales was in a smaller park from before, his numbers would be adjusted for that information. Unless there is something very specific about Morales and the ballpark he was going to, there should be little or no change from this information.

ice_hawk10
9 years ago
Reply to  Moranall

you are 100% right, his wRC+ would not change, but the value the Jays will extract from him in terms of real runs will be greater than KC would, all else being equal.

Jetsy Extrano
9 years ago
Reply to  ice_hawk10

But the value they extract in terms of real wins will not be greater. More runs, yes, but the Jays need more runs to win each game, because they give up more runs too.

(You can argue from handedness and park shape or other individual details. But he gets no bump in win value from the change in overall park factors.)

ice_hawk10
9 years ago
Reply to  Jetsy Extrano

unless i’m seriously missing something, Morales has zero effect on run prevention no matter what park he plays in since he DH’s, but even if he played full time at 1B, i dont see how that would be worse for run prevention in Toronto vs KC. that’s typically not where park factors manifest themselves.

HomerAtTheBatMember since 2024
9 years ago
Reply to  ice_hawk10

Yes Morales will create more runs for the same wRC+, however his point is that those runs are less valuable because runs are easier to come by in toronto so it all ends up being a wash, unless there is something about Morales that makes him uniquely better suited to hit in Toronto than other players, but that would be reflected in his wRC+ improving. Scoring a run in a low scoring environment is more valuable than scoring a run in a high scoring environment.

Maverik312
9 years ago
Reply to  VottomanEmpire

Good enough deal for me*
Morales was on my waiver wire

jim fetterolf
9 years ago
Reply to  VottomanEmpire

Long flies at the K are out of Rogers or Camden or YS’ RF. He has a chance to turn into Trumbo back east with better BA and OBP. Ken will reverse the effect of a Trumbo moving to an adult sized parked. Seems simple enough.

Damaso
9 years ago

I get the basis of this post using the projections, but there is one projection there that seems to stick out as strange and that would be EE’s. For some reason the projections seem him completely falling off a cliff next year, despite being one of the most consistent players in baseball the past 5yrs.

It’s one thing to expect the likes of Melancon or Trumbo to fall off last year’s pace significantly, given their spotty track record, but EE’s value getting basically cut in half next year seems a stretch as a 50th percentile outcome.

Paul Clarke
9 years ago
Reply to  Damaso

Does anyone know what park Steamer projects free agents in, their last home park or a neutral one? If Steamer is projecting for a neutral park that might help explain the 30+ point ISO drop.

Carson
9 years ago
Reply to  Damaso

I think it is because his wRC+ took a significant dip in 2016, which was at least partially the result of his k% jumping in the wrong direction. I agree projections seem light, but a big part of his skillset has always been that he is tough to punch out and he is not getting any younger.

Original Greaser Bob
9 years ago

Where does Chapman at 5-6 years $100 million rank? Top 10, right?

wily moMember since 2020
9 years ago

pretty funny how the one dude from last year’s version who was rejected by the market (fowler) was the one who actually had a good year. of course

Timbooya
9 years ago

“Fowler, of course, was also treated as something of a landmine by the league, and ended up being one of the best bargains of the off-season after re-signing with the Cubs for one year.”

The key here is re-signed. He would have bee a land mine to any or her team, due to the draft pick and dollars he’d have required. Interesting how a qualifying offer can make a land mine turn into gold.

Dooduh
9 years ago
Reply to  Timbooya

That’s a bit of a leap considering he was nearly a 5 win player this year.

HomerAtTheBatMember since 2024
9 years ago
Reply to  Timbooya

It still cost the Cubs a draft pick to sign him. They would have gotten a compensation pick had he signed with any other team. regardless, he put up a very valuable season especially considering it gave them a pick at the end of it.

Timbooya
9 years ago

Any chance there could be a repeat of this mini series with land mines and bargains on the trade market? Because this years free agency class is small and historically underwhelming, teams will be looking to the trade route for players, and analyzing the potential booms and busts there would be a great project.

csw117
9 years ago

Matt Wieters is “headed for the end of his career” and I feel so old.

baltic wolfMember since 2026
9 years ago
Reply to  csw117

Welcome to the club!

Rockshu
9 years ago

I have minor qualms with the Butler/Morales comparison. Butler was let go because he was a sub-replacement talent, Morales was let go because the Royals are at the end of their competitive window and re-signing a DH would do next to nothing for both their short at long term goals.

Morales also can still hit for power, which Butler hadn’t been able to do for two years by the time he walked into free agency.

I don’t think Morales is going to be fantastic by any means, but drawing comparisons to Butler just because they’re both fat and slow designated hitters without accounting for actual hitting ability seems unfair.

Dooduh
9 years ago

Wow, Wieters is on the list bc of framing?? Gahhh. Come on. When the computers start calling balls and strikes, then can we go back to using some rational valuation? Seriously, I don’t follow the angst here. He’s prob not getting more than a 3 yr deal, like 3/40M or so. Heck, even the past 2 seasons he’s roughly 2 fWar per 500 PAs. He has a relatively high floor in the near term.

The C I would worry who could get an albatross contract is Ramos if some team takes a chance and commits yrs. There is literally no way to know how he’ll come back from a 2nd ACL.

But the other guy who I’d have figured to be on this list is Ian Desmond. Yes, good secondaries lift him but is he really more than a glorified platoon player now? His R/L splits have been awful for 2 yrs. Not sure it will happen, but some team could actually commit $50M+ to him! Yeowie, crowdsource has 4/64! Holy crap.

ChippersJonesing
9 years ago
Reply to  Dooduh

This would make more sense if Wieters could hit, but he’s also below average offensively. So, even if you don’t want to include his bad framing, for whatever weird reason you choose, he’s still not a very good player.

TrueNorth
9 years ago

In terms of the bat of Morales ” playing up ” in Toronto’s Rogers Centre there does seem some information out there to support this notion ( also the current Jay’s front office is quite sabermetric friendly and the data teams have about players dwarfs what we have as the average Joe fan have access to).

The obvious culprit driving this decision , in my opinion is from Statscast. I thought this spray chart from Darren Wilman who is involved with the development of this technology is quite insightful.

https://twitter.com/darenw/status/797205244669214721

Basically it overlays the hit profile of Morales from 2016 onto an overlay of the Rogers Centre and it shows a significant amount of balls hit near or over the warning track by the big Cuban. We know , using fangraphs own park factor data that Toronto has always been a launch pad for homeruns, K.C. one of the poorest.

My guess is that the team has advanced stats cast data that shows the exit velocity, launch angle and distance of for Morales that show that show many of these warning track shots perhaps being homeruns if hit in the homer friendly Toronto home environment.

If that’s the case who cares how slow he is ( well maybe the Texas Rangers care?) trotting around the bases after a homer ?

TrueNorth
9 years ago
Reply to  TrueNorth

There’s more. Morales hits the ball hard. If you look at the average exit velocity of all A.L. players he was in fifth spot ahead of all current Jay players.

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/statcast_leaderboard?year=2016&abs=190&player_type=batter

To obtain some context you can also compare generic spray charts between players on this site. If you look at balls hit to the warning track and beyond, Morales in over 12% less plate appearances had 64 “deeply hit balls”, Edwin had 59, Donaldson 53, Saunders 40, Bautista 34 ( many less games).

He has a very similar average launch angle to Edwin, 11.26% verses 11.87% ( Bautista was below league average at 8.66% ).

In short, last year he hit the ball , harder and farther than any other Blue Jay as measured by Statscast data. I think he’s a good bet to increase his home run output in a ball park that better matches his hitting profile ( not to mention that the short right field porch in Yankee stadium, Baltimore overall and the Green Monster also may give him a boost).

He will never be as good as Edwin, as he walks much less and is a much slower runner, nor can he still actually play the field it would seem. Still if you can get 75% of the production at 50% of the cost over a shorter term, Morales may not be such a bad replacement.

JSJohnSmithAnon
9 years ago
Reply to  TrueNorth

Where are you seeing deeply hit balls? And he probably will do better HR wise, but worse in singles and doubles.

Also, he hits more groundballs than EE, JB, and JD, and his production on them is god awful.

Shirtless George Brett
9 years ago
Reply to  TrueNorth

Counting balls he hit last year that would have been out of Rogers center seems like a classic example of the old “fallacy of the pre determined outcome”.

Different team means he faces different teams with different pitchers who have different repertoires and different strategies etc etc etc. All of which means different outcomes.

In short, you are taking results that happened under one specific set of conditions and just copy and pasting them onto an entirely different situation. I don’t think it quite works like that.

ice_hawk10
9 years ago
Reply to  TrueNorth

i count 6 maybe 7 extra dingers assuming he wouldn’t get a small batted ball boost from atmospheric conditions. o and obviously the other AL East parks, with the exception of TB are even more hitter friendly.

mtsw
9 years ago

Is there any evidence that a former elite prospect like Wieters has a higher upside even in his age 30+ seasons than a typical player? Or is it no more likely that Matt Wieters has an elite hitter trapped inside him than anyone else does at this point in his career?

Has Wieters “proven” at this point that the potential was a mirage?

fjtorres
9 years ago
Reply to  mtsw

The potential wasn’t a mirage. It was simply potential.
Sometimes potential becomes reality, sometimes it doesn’t.
Betting on prospects is always risky, betting on young catchers even more so. Bats don’t always develop, injuries happen…
Wieters isn’t the first catching prospect to fall short and he won’t be the last.
If nothing else, consider why Bryce Harper was moved out of catcher. And why John Bench was so special.

mtsw
9 years ago
Reply to  fjtorres

Ya I get that he’s not good, I’m just curious if he has a better chance at an (unlikely) late-career hitting break out than a guy who doesn’t have the pedigree he does. Recent cases of guys in their late 20s-30s who suddenly learned how to hit at elite levels (Jose Bautista and Steve Pearce come to mind) definitely don’t fit this mold, but I was wondering if there’s any actual evidence for this.

Slappytheclown
9 years ago
Reply to  mtsw

It’s possible…some lower level players like Carlos Ruiz have improved or come on late. Yadier Molina was another late blooming catcher with the bat, and Ozzie smith another late bloomer with the bat, relatively speaking. Realistically though, it’s gotta be something like 10% likely ‘incremental’ improvement, 5% or less ‘breakout like Bautista’ and 85% what you see is what you get wRC @ 90-100 or worse.

Toffer Peak
9 years ago
Reply to  fjtorres

“The potential wasn’t a mirage.”

Funny you should say that. While your overall premise is correct, you’re wrong about Wieters. His potential WAS a mirage. He was so hyped because his PECOTA projection was so extreme. But BP admitted after the season that his projection was due to an error.

“Some of you may remember the PECOTA forecast for one Matt Wieters’ debut season. It struck a lot of people as being outlandish—I was certainly one of them. In this case, PECOTA was a victim of its own complexity—by taking so long to produce forecasts, there wasn’t enough time to properly proof the PECOTAs.

Minor league players are heavily dependent on methods of putting their stats in terms of expected major league performance; in this case, it was the Davenport Translations. The foundation of this process is a set of league difficulty ratings that establish how a league compares to the majors.

What seems to have happened is that, when spitting out translations for the two leagues that Wieters played in (and only those two leagues, mind you), those league difficulty factors were significantly inflated from what they should have been—the Eastern League was not only rated higher than the other two Double-A leagues, but above both Triple-A leagues as well. And the High-A Carolina League placed above both of the other Double-A leagues as well.

For most players, that wasn’t going to make a noticeable impact—very few players who are expected to be anywhere close to the majors have only one year of stats split between the Eastern and Carolina Leagues. But one is enough to produce the Wieters forecast.”

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=12102

RoyalsFan#14321Member since 2024
9 years ago
Reply to  mtsw

Wieters has been good for 18 WAR in his career. His potential was realized.

OddBall Herrera
9 years ago

Interesting parallel between Cruz and Trumbo, since they were both no-defense sluggers > 30 years old who put up their best year in Baltimore prior to free agency. Cruz was pegged as a ‘trap’ contract at the time as well, and people speculated that the Camden boost he got would *never* play in Seattle, yet he’s panned out quite nicely. So the ‘ageing position-less slugger’ category isn’t as hopeless as it’d seem.

bananas
9 years ago

Definitely an interesting comparison because the players aren’t all that different, and yet Cruz was just way more valuable, and projects to be an okay member of a team (if not an all star). In other words, walk rate matters! And both players could bottom out when (not if) their power numbers crater.

Cruz is certainly a better hitter underneath – fewer popups, more hard hit balls and lead to a better BABIP; A 3% edge in walk rate is substantial. But it’s not a huge gap.

But where it gets fun is the fact that Cruz has continued his luck in SEA, with HR/FB rates of 30% and 26% the past couple years.

For reference: Stanton is at 25% for his career. Trumbo was at 24% in this “anomaly” season. 30% HR/FB is just not sustainable for even the best power hitters, especially not in someone who calls safeco home. It’s incredible that Cruz has done this as a 35 year old. Take away 10 of his HR’s and suddenly he looks a little more human. Still legit, but not exactly a stud given the defensive limitations.

Cruz is definitely a better player than trumbo, but he’s not a 150 wrc+ true talent, and the mariners have been very lucky to benefit from a few extra balls leaving the yard the past couple years. If i’m an exec, i would be very careful using the Cruz contract as any sort of blueprint for future players, especially players who lack Cruz’ passable discipline numbers that keep his floor relatively high.

bjsguess
9 years ago

It would be great to have the amazing FG writers do a write up evaluating their landmines and bargain picks two or more years after making the predictions. We tend to just focus on the year previous but this article hits home the point that deals may look great in year 1 or 2 but by year 3 they are a total train wreck. Conversely, some players may have performed poorly in year 1 but then turn things around a improve dramatically in later years.

Anyway, might be a fun exercise on a slow day.

asdf
9 years ago

You picked five guys last year. Four of them underperformed to the tune of $75M for +6 WAR. The fifth guy overperformed to the tune of $13M for +5 WAR. So you got 11 WAR for $88M, which is $8M/WAR, which is about the going market rate for free agents.

It’s striking how hard it is to predict future performance of ballplayers better than MLB front offices.

kevo8Member since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  asdf

Fascinating point, but I will note that those numbers came in the first year of what in every case but Fowler’s was a multi-year deal. As a front office signing a long-term deal, you want to receive enough value on the front end of the deal to make up for the back end of it, so the teams making those deals probably expected to receive a better rate than $8MM/WAR last year. Additionally, that number is slightly warped by the fact that Fowler received less than expected. Doesn’t take away from your general point though. Baseball likes to baseball.

RadermecherMember since 2018
9 years ago

Considering age,J.Batista could be a long term landmine.

John Autin
9 years ago

FWIW, re: Trumbo’s extreme HR/XBH rate — 6 players had over 300 HRs and HRs at least 59% of extra-base hits:

HR/XBH … Player
69.3% … Mark McGwire
64.6% … Harmon Killebrew
62.5% … Dave Kingman
60.6% … Cecil Fielder
59.1% … Ralph Kiner
59.0% … Sammy Sosa

Only 2 of them are PED-tainted. So while it’s very unlikely Trumbo can maintain last year’s rate, it’s not unthinkable.