The A’s Might Have a Developing Star
Over the last few years, the A’s have had a high-end player problem, in that they haven’t had any. Jed Lowrie currently leads the team with +2.3 WAR; by comparison, the Astros have seven players who have already reached that mark, and that does not include their best pitcher, Dallas Keuchel, who spent two months on the DL. The team has developed some decent role players and decent enough everyday players, but they haven’t really had a franchise player since they traded Josh Donaldson to Toronto.
Without getting too far ahead of ourselves, I am starting to wonder if they’ve finally found a guy who at least has the potential to get to that level in the not too distant future. His name is Matt Chapman.
Chapman’s been a real prospect for a while, having been the A’s first round pick in the 2014 draft. Eric Longenhagen listed him as an honorable mention on his pre-season Top 100, giving him a 50 Future Value grade based on his power and defensive abilities. There were questions over whether the bat would play enough to make him a regular at third base, though, as he’s always struck out too much and thus hits for some very low averages.
Well, Chapman still strikes out a lot, but after running a 130 wRC+ in Triple-A, the A’s have decided to see how it all works in the big leagues. And so far, they have to be encouraged with the results. Through his first 34 games in the big leagues, Chapman is hitting .231/.316/.513, good for a 120 wRC+. Yeah, the average is still low, but he draws walks and the power looks legitimate, so even with the strikeouts, he’s not an offensive black hole.
He hits too many infield flies for that .278 BABIP to have much room to move upwards, so this might be his offensive ceiling unless he can fix that or improve his contact rate. The A’s should probably expect something closer to the 91 wRC+ that ZIPS and Steamer project going forward, though with how well the ball flies these days, perhaps his power will play up more than those projections think. So why am I calling a 24-year-old with a maybe-average bat a potential star?
Because Matt Chapman can really play third base. Here’s what Eric wrote about his defense this spring.
He’s an excellent defensive third baseman, flexible in both the knees and at the waist, and adept at positioning his body as he approaches grounders, in a way that allows him to make strong, accurate throws. He also has a terrific first step and lateral range, with solid hands. He’s a future plus defensive third baseman with a plus arm, and there are scouts who have 70s on either or both.
Or, if you want something a little more recent, here’s the last A’s star third baseman on their current youngster.
“That was a nice night,” (Josh Donaldson) told The Chronicle. “He made some great plays — that double play to make the stop and to still be able to get off the throw, and then that leaping catch at shortstop, those were tough. His athleticism was definitely on display.”
Want to see Chapman in action and not just read other people lauding his glove work? Say no more.
Over at Athletics Nation, Alex Hall did a whole piece on Chapman’s glove, including some more GIFs if you’re not sold just yet. But while Chapman is making spectacular plays, he’s not just making spectacular plays. While you never want to draw conclusions based solely on partial seasons of defensive data, the numbers back up what everyone sees with their eyes; Chapman is an out-machine at third base.
In 302 innings at third base, Baseball Info Solutions has recorded 74 balls hit into Chapman’s zones, and he’s made the play on 64 of those 74 plays, for an 87% conversion rate. League average for a third baseman is 70%. Nolan Arenado, the everyday 3B with the highest RZR, is at 76%.
That’s why BIS has already credited him with 12 Defensive Runs Saved, which ranks #1 among all American League third baseman this year. Yeah, DRS has him ahead of Manny Machado and Evan Longoria in about 1/3 of the innings played.
UZR is much more conservative in assigning fielding value to 3Bs this year, with the range being +9 to -7 instead of +16 to -13, but even with the more compact values, Chapman grades out as an elite glove there, with his +4 UZR translating to +22 over 150 games. Basically, by any kind of measure you want to use, Matt Chapman looks like an outstanding third baseman.
It’s always easier to buy into these kinds of performances when it lines up with the prior scouting reports, and Chapman is showing why the scouts putting 70s on both his glove and arm weren’t crazy. While it’s obviously still too early to make any kind of final determination of his value, it feels perfectly reasonable to project Chapman as something like a +10 to +15 third baseman; that would put him in line with what guys like Beltre, Machado, Arenado, and Rendon grade out at over larger samples.
And if Chapman’s something like a league average hitter with premium defense at third base, then he’s probably already pushing towards being a +3 WAR player, at age-24. Defense peaks early, so he might have less upside than some other guys at that level at this age, but it’s worth noting that KATOH saw significant star potential even before this season.
And KATOH was even higher on him after what he did in the minors this year, revising his +6.7 WAR projection up to +8.7 on the mid-season Top 100 update, where Chapman ranked as the 22nd best prospect in baseball by the stats-only model. Just going on minor league performance, KATOH likes Chapman more than Yoan Moncada or Amed Rosario, who are often considered two of the very best prospects in baseball. And Chapman’s stock has only gone up since getting to the big leagues, which KATOH doesn’t factor in.
Sure, maybe “Todd Frazier with better defense” doesn’t scream franchise player, but it’s worth remembering that at his peak, Frazier put up back to back seasons over +4 WAR, and has averaged better than +3 WAR per 600 plate appearances over his entire career. Chapman looks even better with the glove than Frazier, and if he can develop any further as a hitter, it’s not crazy to think that he could throw up a few +5 WAR seasons.
Of course, there’s a lot of risk in this skillset too. Defensive value jumps around more than offensive value, and as a high-K, high-popup guy, he could easily hit .180 if he struggles when pitchers start adjusting to him. Average-bat/elite glove guys aren’t always recognized as stars, but if the A’s end up with the third base version of Kevin Kiermiaer, I think they’ll be pretty happy. And given what Chapman has done this year, that doesn’t look like an absurd projection anymore.
Dave is the Managing Editor of FanGraphs.


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Chavez 2.0 would be a great outcome here and a player that can be a core contributor on a contending team.
Perhaps a righthanded version of Chavez, hopefully he can stay healthy after he turns 28 unlike Chavez.
Chavez 2.0 would be something like a pipe dream.
Eric Chavez put up like 15 WAR through his age 24 season, so let’s not get too far ahead of ourselves here. Not saying that Matt Chapman isn’t fun to watch, or that I don’t hope he gets to that level, but that is a lofty comparison. Huge difference in ceiling of a guy that sticks in the majors at age 20 vs age 24. I will say thank you for reminding me of Eric Chavez, he was awesome when healthy.
Chapman reminds me more of the later version of Todd Frazier than the earlier one. Vintage Todd Frazier (around wRC+ of 120) with gold glove caliber defense would be an amazing outcome, but he’d have to cut the strikeouts to match him. That’s maybe doable, but far from guaranteed.
I see him more as a Mark Reynolds-type at the plate (which is kind of what Frazier was last year with the White Sox). Lots of homers, lots of strikeouts, very low BABIP. Reynolds has been a league-average hitter basically his whole career (with one very good year). With top notch defense, that’s nothing to sneeze at either.
Honestly, this might even be a bit conservative — arbitrary endpoints are terrible, but since the All-Star break he’s been K-ing at a very reasonable 21.9%, for a .265/.344/.639 slash line. Basically that just excludes his first four games and the first few games after he came back from a knee infection, during which he had a 50% K rate. I think that’s fair to cut out, to a certain degree.
Obviously that’s not what he’ll do going forward, but I really do not think that a 120 wRC+ is a stretch. That power is really, really real.
Well, he’s pretty regularly run K% of 30% in the minors. I know that there are Kris Bryant’s who manage to cut the K’s in the majors, but they’re not that common.
If he K’s at a 21.9% rate and makes like vintage Frazier (around a wRC+ of 120) with gold glove defense, that’s easily all-star level production. That’s something like 5-6 WAR.
You mean *another* developing star, in addition to future MVP Max Schrock, of course.
This is an 80-grade comment.
Yeah 100-110 wRC+ with a good glove doesn’t scream star to me. More like Pedro Alvarez who can actually play 3B, except Chapman K’s more. In one story we should trust the projections, in others we should trust 130 plate appearances. There seems to be a disturbing trend here at FG to jump to conclusions about young player debuts and profile changes in veterans after very small samples. In addition, we are seeing a lot of love for very risky players who K 30% of the time assuming they can hit enough to make it play. Schimpf and Broxton should be cautionary tales. I get it, FG needs content and can’t get clicks by writing about Neil Walker and his well known and defined abilities, but the string of player X just became great articles by Sullivan et al. seem premature.
I tend to agree with you, although I feel like Dave has been producing more of these than Jeff. I don’t need the clickbait headline or the rosy outlook to appreciate an article on Matt Chapman.
I’m sorry, where’s the harm in this? What is there to say about Neil Walker right now that hasn’t already been said? What’s the problem with drawing attention to an interesting rookie on a going-nowhere small market team? I follow a team in the AL West and Chapman had flown under my radar (mostly I was aware of him for not being that other baseball Chapman famously playing right now, or that other other infamous baseball Chapman, or that other other other tragic baseball Chapman).
He’s not saying that FanGraphs shouldn’t write about Matt Chapman, he’s saying that lately FG has been being somewhat overzealous about projecting really big things for young players with small samples of success. I noticed the same thing Pirates Hurdles mentioned, I just didn’t post it because I knew it would be met with a sea of downvotes.
Yeah, don’t say anything negative about any of the writers here, other people take it as a personal attack.
You just reiterated his point about Neil Walker.
The harm in this, is that a site that preaches about not getting carried away with SSS is doing just that with articles like this. There is nothing wrong with writing about Matt Chapman. Writing about how Matt Chapman might be a developing star before he gets 150 ML PAs seems to go against a lot of what these writers say in other articles as well as in responses they give during their chats. It all comes off a bit hypocritical.
Max hit his world leading 7th HR a couple days ago!
Sheldon Neuse is the new Max Schrock from WSH. Rocking a 395/474/709 6HR, in 18 gms since the trade, and they bumped him up a level.!.!
Longenhagen gave him a 55 glove 60 arm though…
Matt Chapman: 70 grade fielder
Chatt Mapman: 80 grade spoonerism
I posted yesterday that he is the best defensive 3rd baseman of all time. Of course I jumped the gun a bit, but I’ve read that in scouting reports. I’m shocked his glove is considered only a 70. His range is unmatched anywhere.
Brooks Robinson, Clete Boyer, and Adrian Beltre say to check in when he’s got 10K innings under his belt and we’ll see then.
And Arenado, who is 7th in DEF at 3b since 1980 through age 25 (and should be 5th through age 26).
Arenado is good, but he has “only” put up an average of 11 or so Def per season.
If he does that for the next 12 seasons, which takes him to age 38, which assumes he stays healthy and doesn’t have his defense drop off, he’ll have something like 195 Def.
Personally I don’t think we’re likely to see Arenado keep up the same level of defensive play without injury until he is 38.
But in the case where he does all that, he still winds up about 35 Def shy of Beltre, about half of the total value of Robinson, and close to (but not matching) the value of Boyer despite having nearly 10,000 PAs to 6,300 of Boyer.
This is not intended to knock Arenado, who could potentially top Scott Rolen in the defensive department but Beltre, Robinson, and Boyer have jaw-dropping records on defense.
They have a future MVP in the minors, too.
(That’s enough of you. To the moderation queue you go.)
I am so curious!
“…he made by chick nervous just watching him…”
usually when a chick is nervous around a dude it actually means…lol jk
What? I missed some insightful comments spawned from that vastly under-rated (and much more grounded in facts) site known as BleacherReport again?
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I think I read an article like this last year about Dansby Swanson, and the year before that about Joc Pederson, and the year before that about Mike Zunino, and the year before that about…
Good stuff, Maynard. I can’t believe Chapman turned those two balls into double plays. Amazing plays at the hot corner . . .the future looks bright for this Athletic
This description sounds a lot like Matt Dominguez, moreso than Todd Frazier.
I wish you had included his rolling k% since I cant find it in the stats page. I looked and he has a 10.4%BB 21.9%k over the last 30 with a 264/339/639 153wrc+, where it looks like he was striking out more initially and has cut them down the longer he has been here. If he can continue to make adjustments like he has I could see a 250/320/560 line for him with plus plus defense.
The high k and good defense type of player is really a new type of player.
In the past good defenders were supposed to be good contact guys and high Ks were associated with high power and bad defense (adam dunn).
Of course low contact without power is still not good but there might be more acceptance for low contact hitters with just average power (which is around 20 bombs these days) if the defense is great.
If you hit 220 with 17 hr you were considered terrible but if the defense is right that still can work. The classic profiles (big slow slugger, speedy contact guy…) are more and more vanishing.
Maybe for example byron buxton still becomes a success with a 235/315/410 line with 20 bombs and crazy defense (basically hamilton with a bit of pop) although that is not what people were hoping for him. Value is value no matter how you generate it although it might take some time until that is reflected in media attention and commercial contracts.
The league-way K rate has been on an upward march for decades now. Just as pitchers who throw less than 90 are vanishing, so too are the kind of contact hitters we saw in years past. We need to adjust our baseline expectations. Once upon a time a “high K slugger” was Adam Dunn or Ryan Howard at 28%; now the face of that label is Miguel Sano and his 35% K rate. Preconceptions based on the pitching environment from 15 or 20 years ago, when the league average K rate was in the low teens, can cause us to mis-characterize players today.
In 2017, with the league average K-rate comfortably above 20%, a guy like Chpaman might not quite be this era’s “contact hitter with great defense” but he’s closer to it than you might think.
It wasn’t in the low teens 15 years ago, in 2001 it was 17%.
Of course it went higher but there was never really a sudden K explosion, more a gradual raise for about 30 plus years now.
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One area he also may be able to add value, and where the scouting reports may have been light on him (40 tool grade here), is his speed. I’m not sure what to make of the Statcast sprint speed leaderboard yet but it has him at 28.3 ft/sec, around guys like Max Kepler (55 grade http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/evaluating-the-2016-prospects-minnesota-twins/) and Michael A. Taylor (60 grade http://www.baseballprospectus.com/prospects/eyewitness_bat.php?reportid=73).
I’m not saying that’s a slam-dunk case or anything but it aligns with the positive BsR score and the eye test: https://www.mlb.com/video/chapmans-superb-running-catch/c-1657028283?tid=182435092
So how many seasons do the A’s get out of him before they send him away in a trade?
Downvote me all you want. It’s no consolation for this guy.
That is the perfect image of the A’s fanbase.
Well done
Plenty, they are announcing a new stadium in Oak by the end of the year, and it should be done just in time for his arb years. Also the team could likely look at a Longoria esq early extension for him this offseason, and lock him in for 8years with the last couple as options, and none of the real money years will be until after the new stadium. BB even recently talked about building a strong farm system and signing more players to sustain the core. All these things fit well with where the team is now and how long the stadium will take to build. Over the next few years the team should be getting younger, better, and cheaper. BB is going to try and do what CLe did in the 90s with a young team just starting to get good as they move into a new park. Look at the moves he made at the deadline, instead of like other years when he went after near big league ready players, this year he targeted mostly players at least 2 years away.
The guy As fans should be excited about at the hot corner is the guy they just robbed from Washington Nationals… none other than Sheldon Neuse.
I think he works better as a big bat 2b since he wont have the defense to offset Chapman. You dont remove one of the top 3 defensive 3b for a avg one, you find Neuse ABs in RF/LF/2b. I think Pinder is your Zobrist super U with 2b/3b/ss/LF/RF and maybe even a touch of center. Olson is in the OF next year so that you can mitigate the teams two biggest liabilities by parking Healy at 1b where he isnt great, but is less aweful, and more experience should help, or better yet DH, and trade Kris Davis, since I am just soooooooo sick of watching runners score from first one routine singles to left, because KD gets the ball in with that arm worse then I would kicking it. He also doesnt fit as well with the window of contention, and has the HR leader since the start of 2016 they can get some talent back from him for a team with a DH/part time OF need.
2019 opening day lineup
1B-Matt Olson
2B-Sheldon Neuse
3B-Matt Chapman
SS-Franklin Barretto
LF-Dustin Fowler
CF-Jorge Mateo
RF-Yairo Munoz
C-Bruce Maxwell/Sean Murphy
SU-Chad Pinder
DH-Ryan Healy
U-Max Shrock
5thOF-Jaycob Brugman