The Blue Jays Potentially Irrelevant Advantage
With last week’s additions of Troy Tulowitzki and David Price, the Toronto Blue Jays made themselves into a legitimate postseason contender, adding two of the game’s best players to a roster that was already pretty solid. Our rest-of-season forecast now has the Jays with the best projected winning percentage in the American League going forward, and while they’ll likely have to win their win into the division series through the Wild Card game, the Jays look like they could be a dangerous team in October. Price, along with bullpen upgrades Latroy Hawkins and Mark Lowe, gives them a good bit more pitching depth than they had previously, and Tulowitzki adds another quality hitter to a line-up that was already overflowing with offensive weapons.
But the more I look at this roster, the more I begin to wonder whether we’re overlooking one potentially significant flaw in this team’s construction, especially when it comes to the postseason. A week ago, when writing about the Tulowitzki acquisition, I noted that adding a good hitter to a good line-up could actually provide non-linear positive returns, above and beyond just that single player’s individual abilities, because getting guys on base leads to better outcomes for everyone else in the line-up. As I wrote then, we shouldn’t be too concerned about diminishing returns from the Blue Jays already having “enough” offense.
One aspect of the Jays line-up I didn’t talk about enough, however, was the fact that you can have diminishing returns based on line-up construction. Specifically, if you line up too many hitters from one side of the plate, your team will probably score fewer runs than would be expected based solely on overall batting lines, as a line-up that is dominated by same-handed hitters becomes a fairly easy match-up for the opposing manager in important situations. And while Troy Tulowitzki is an excellent player, the Blue Jays line-up may now lean too heavily to the right side.
Here is where the Jays non-pitchers stand relative to the rest of baseball in 2015 performance against RHPs and LHPs, to this point in the season.
This is a team that hits right-handers pretty well, getting a 107 wRC+ from their position players against RHPs, which ties them with the Astros for the seventh-best mark in baseball. But they absolutely crush left-handed pitching, running a 130 wRC+ against southpaws that is far and away the best mark of any team in the game; no one else is even really all that close. And this was before they added Tulowitzki, giving them another good hitter, but pushing their line-up even further to the right side of the spectrum.
In the regular season, where teams really can’t do too much to manipulate their rotation to exploit match-ups, Blue Jays hitters have only had the platoon advantage in 45% of their at-bats, the second lowest total in the American League; the league average is 55%. And that number is almost certainly going to be lower in the postseason. Here are the 2011-2014 rates for how often a hitter has had the platoon advantage in the regular season and then in the postseason.
| Season | Regular Season | Postseason | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2011 | 54% | 49% | -5% |
| 2012 | 55% | 54% | -1% |
| 2013 | 56% | 51% | -4% |
| 2014 | 55% | 51% | -4% |
With more frequent off-days and higher stakes on the outcome of each at-bat, managers are simply able to play the match-ups more frequently in October than they do in the regular season. Ask yourself this: if you were an opposing manager facing the Blue Jays in a postseason series, and you saw a line-up that ran out seven right-handed bats alongside Justin Smoak and Ben Revere, why would you ever throw a left-handed pitcher against them?
Among likely AL playoff opponents, the Houston Astros are really the only team that wouldn’t be able to avoid playing into the Blue Jays strength, as their two best starting pitchers (Dallas Keuchel and Scott Kazmir) are both southpaws. Match-ups or not, the Astros aren’t going to bench those two and go with inferior right-handed pitchers, though you can bet that they’d likely be willing to go to the bullpen a bit earlier in that series than they would against other teams.
But everyone else? They can essentially throw a never-ending string of right-handers at the Blue Jays in October.
The Royals feature one left-handed starter, Danny Duffy. He could easily be replaced for that series with Chris Young or Jeremy Guthrie, assuming they don’t go pick up another serviceable #5 starter during the August waiver trade period. Their dominating bullpen is stocked with right-handed pitchers, and you can bet the Blue Jays would see a heavy dose of Kelvin Herrera, Wade Davis, and Greg Holland in a series against KC.
The Angels feature two left-handed starters, but with only a four man rotation needed in the postseason, there would be no real reason to give Andrew Heaney a start, meaning the Jays would only get one game against Hector Santiago. And like KC, their best relievers all run right-handed.
The Yankees rotation still has CC Sabathia in it right now, but the odds of him making a start against the Blue Jays in a postseason series are somewhere between slim and none. With Michael Pineda, Masahiro Tanaka, Nathan Eovaldi, and one of Ivan Nova, Adam Warren, or Luis Severino, the Yankees have more than enough right-handed starters to displace Sabathia. And while they aren’t going to shy away from Andrew Miller in high leverage situations, RHBs are hitting .078/.195/.146 against him this year. Miller’s 2015 dominance is even more impressive when you realize that 83% of the batters he’s faced this year have been righties, and he’s still been unhittable.
If the Jays do end up running down Minnesota for the Wild Card — and I think they will — they’re almost certainly going to be going up against the Angels or Astros in the play-in game. If it’s the Astros, you’d think it would be an advantage, because they match up well against Keuchel and Kazmir, but Houston is probably also one of the teams most likely to accept the fact that the Wild Card game should really just be a bullpen affair, making it a bullpen game instead. And so, realistically, they should probably be rooting for that game to come against Anaheim, leaving a potential Astros series for an ALDS or ALCS match-up where Keuchel and Kazmir would have to throw significant innings.
More realistically, though, the Blue Jays are just going to have to hit well against good right-handed pitching to advance in the postseason. They’ve created a line-up that strongly incentivizes opponents to stack up on sinker/slider RHPs, and they’re likely going to get a steady dose of guys who are in baseball primarily because they dominate right-handed batters. Because teams can adjust their rosters every series, and can allocate their innings to exploit match-ups more heavily, the Blue Jays are probably going to have the platoon advantage in fewer than 40% of their postseason at-bats, and maybe even as low as 25-30%; we simply can’t expect them to score runs in October the way they have been in the regular season, above and beyond the normal decline that comes from facing higher-quality opponents.
In fairness to Alex Anthopolous, there weren’t a lot of great left-handed hitters getting moved at the deadline. Nearly all of the good hitters who changed teams — Tulo, Yoenis Cespedes, Carlos Gomez — were right-handed, so it’s not like other teams were picking up the guys that the Jays should have been targeting instead. But I do wonder if the Jays overly right-handed line-up will become a problem for them in the postseason. Given the cost the team gave up to acquire David Price to push in on 2015, it might have made more sense to go for a better LH left fielder than Ben Revere, who isn’t exactly going to punish anyone for leaving a right-handed specialist on the mound.
The Blue Jays have a good team, and their right-handed hitters are still good hitters, even against right-handed pitching. But they aren’t as good as they are against left-handed pitching, and I wouldn’t expect Toronto to see many southpaws in October. If they get bounced early, line-up balance may end up being a thing the 2016 Blue Jays look to correct.
Dave is the Managing Editor of FanGraphs.


Maybe I’m just reading it wrong, but can someone help explain the title to me? I feel like it should read “The Blue Jays’ Potentially Irrelevant Disadvantage”.
Awesome article Dave, cool to see you dive into something like lineup construction, a topic that so rarely comes up around these parts.
That’s exactly what I was thinking about the title! After I thought about it for a while, though, I realized that it means that the Blue Jays’ theoretical big advantage (their overwhelming offense) might be rendered irrelevant in the postseason by the same-handed pitching they would face.
The advantage is still relevant. It’s relevant enough to make other teams adapt.
What the advantage could be, if the author is correct: not-particularly-useful-except-against-the-astros-in-a-best-of-series
I read it as: the Blue Jays’ advantage is a good offense, but splits and postseason pitching strategies could make that advantage irrelevant.
Sorry, I didn’t explain that very well. The advantage is that they hit left-handed pitching better than anyone else in baseball. The reason it might be irrelevant is that they probably won’t face many lefties in the playoffs.
But they have the 4th best wRC+ vs Righties in the MLB. How is that a bad thing?
You keep saying its a problem for the Blue Jays in the postseason, but the thing is, for this team, front office, and fanbase, just reaching the postseason would be a massive victory. Postseason handedness matchups are literally a non-concern for us at this point. Let’s just get there, first.
My team has not made the postseason since the new format; do fans really find the play-in game to be such a victory?
Royals fans certainly did (as I am one of them).
Only because the Royals won. A’s fans definitely felt otherwise.
The A’s didn’t exactly have a playoff appearance drought, though. Making the WC game and losing might feel anti-climactic, but I imagine it would feel different to a fan of a team that hasn’t seen the postseason in a long, long time.
As a Pirates fan, I would say no that is not a big victory. But back in 2013, that getting into the play-in game was huge!!
My team has not made the postseason since 1993. The play-in game would be a considerable victory.
Yes, this. A hundred times this.
I gotta ask, Rockshu from DHB?
I blame Michael Saunders.
If Saunders manages to get healthy before October (which is not a given), he could actually help offset this problem at least a little.
Pompey too. From the scouting reports Ive read Pompey hits much better from the left side.
I’m a little confused Dave. The Jays have already dominated offensively despite a low platoon advantage % and your thesis is that we’ll see a downward shift of 5-10%. If the difference is only 1-2 batters per game as your proposed numbers suggest, aren’t we still looking at what’s likely the best offensive output amongst playoff teams?
But there starting pitching is pretty much going to be the worst of the remaining potential playoff teams. So any down tick in offense might hurt a team like the Jays when considering the overall weakness in the rotation in a playoff series.
Price could be nearly all the pitching they really need. He could win 3 out if every 7 by himself.
All the good right handed hitters are only good because they face lefties? Also all left handed pitchers are only good against left handed batters?Obviously not. If the Yankees want to avoid Sabathia, Miller they can. If the Twins want to avoid Perkins, they can. Norris for the Tigers , Chen with the Orioles(Orioles’s already held him back once from going against the Jays this season), Miley for the Red Sox. May have missed a couple players we have a chance to play against but those are the main ones.
Right handed pitchers have a large advantage against right handed batters, typically worth around -8% of their wOBA. Right handed relievers have an even larger advantage than starters as they often have specialized repertoires (or just repertoires that don’t get lefties out efficiently enough to be starters). The Blue Jays have the best offense in baseball partially because they get to play a big percentage of their games against left handed pitching, which they won’t get to do in the playoffs. Easy to understand.
The danger isn’t so much having to start against a marginal RHP over a LHP, the danger is Darren O’Day eating 2.1 high leverage innings with your team having an expected .160 batting average because they can’t turn him around by slotting a left handed batter who’s not Justin Smoak into your lineup.
I think the Blue Jays would welcome the chance to face Darren O’Day every game of a playoff series. Every time he comes into a game, Jose Bautista takes him yard.
Only when O’Day throws at him though.
Since he throws at him all the time, hard to tell.
A ‘large percentage’ of their games against LHP? 26 of 108 games is less than 1 in 4, so if 23% if your definition of “large”, you are correct.
My definition differs.
Forgot Britton.
When the opposing team is forced to put out an inferior right handed starter, is it really an irrelevant advantage? Yes, the Jays crush left handed pitching, but if the only option the opposing team has is to put out a crappy rightie like Jeremy Guthrie then are they really worse off? Especially when theyve already had a brutal platoon disadvantage this year and have still dominated.
This right here. If it diminishes the average effectiveness of the righthanded pitching they do face, it’s still an advantage. Maybe it results in a slow hook for a Starter if a given Bullpen is lacking in Right handed arms.
Yep. For his career Bautista has a 929 OPS vs Guthrie, Donaldson is 1.225…and so on. Good hitters beat up on crappy pitchers even without the platoon splits. Logically Dave is right, but the reality is top tier hitters beat bottom feeder pitchers even if the bats have a platoon disadvantage.
Tigers only 3 back. Should not have sold. Where the haters?
…What?
…only three back of 37 other teams!
Latest wild card standings:
TEAM, GB
Anaheim, +2.0
Toronto, 0.0
Baltimore, 0.0
Minnesota, 0.0
Scranton, 0.5
West Scranton, 1.5
Schenectady, 1.5
Texas, 2.0
Tampa, 2.0
Beaverton, 2.0
Keokuk, 2.0
BFE, 2.0
Walla Walla, 2.5
West Walla Walla, 2.5
(Further) West Walla Walla, 3.0
DETROIT, 3.0
That’s…a lot of teams to jump over right there. Current playoff odds: 2.6%. (Even West Walla Walla stands at 3.4%, and THEY STINK. C’mon.)
Isn’t the potential disadvantage mitigated if it forces the opponent to change up their preferred pitcher usage?
You know, in the offseason I argued this very same thing. They’re too LH, and they’d miss Adam Lind’s lefty bat. But the thing is, the key Blue Jay bats have been very effective vs RHP, not just this year but over their careers. As you point out they’re still 7th in the majors vs RHP (and 3rd in the AL, no less), so it’s not like there’s a significant drop off against RHP.
Also, if you take a look at the splits, a lot of the pitchers you mentioned have been beaten by the Jays offence. Even the Royals vaunted bullpen wasn’t able to shut down the Jays during their most recent series. Wade Davis’s home run streak when bye bye in his one inning vs the Jays, as Bautista crushed a pitch off of him. Herrerra made 3 appearances over 3 2/3 IP, struck out nobody and walked 4. You’d think logically the top RH arms in the bullpen would shut down the Jays, but that just isn’t happening. And it’s not something that’s isolated to KC, either.
The Jays are far too right handed, and that’s normally an issue. But the Jays key guys just don’t show significant splits, and as your own graphs point out, the Jays are still a top offence vs RHP. They drop from #1 in the AL vs LHP to…#3 in the AL vs RHP. Combine that with the addition of Price, and a rebuilt bullpen (which is now pretty effective), and the Jays are a very dangerous team going forward.
You can stack your best right handed arms against the Jays, but they’re still going to clobber RHP. Here are the Jays key bats vs RHP this season by wRC+
Bautista – 143
Donaldson – 133
Colabello – 130 (granted, BABIP powered, but still)
Travis – 124
EE – 121
Martin – 112
Tulo is 225 as a Jay (SSS), but 104 this year
See what I’m getting at? Most teams would be fortunate to have a “disadvantage” where their top 5 hitters have a 120 wRC+ or better, and that’s with the platoon advantage.
As for your 2016 comment – where exactly are the Jays going to swap out a player? They’re not getting rid of Pillar who has been a top 3 defensive OF and baserunner, and he’s not there for his bat. Donaldson, Tulo, Bautista, Martin aren’t going anywhere. Travis isn’t going anywhere. Maybe you get flip EE for pitching, but outside of that there isn’t a position the Jays are likely to change for the sake of “lineup balance”.
Logically, everything you said should make sense. The problem with your argument, Dave, is that the Jays are simply a quality offence that doesn’t have platoon issues. If the lineup was made up of a bunch of lefty mashers who can’t handle RHP, you’d have a point, but these guys hit RHP and LHP and don’t get shut down by platoon issues.
TL:DR – The Jays don’t have a disadvantage facing RHP, even though their lineup is far too RH.
How about you at least mention the Blue Jays are a much better hitting team at home than on the road?
If teams didn’t generally play better at home than on the road, nobody would ever have coined the phrase, “home field advantage.”
And the we also play in a hitters’ park, so this is even more unremarkable. And, of course, completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.
“And the we”
I stopped reading at “Mark Lowe” and “bullpen upgrade.”
A team counting on Mark Lowe to contribute anything other than losses is in trouble.
wRC+ vRHP
1. SS Tulowitzki: 104
2. 3B Donaldson: 133
3. RF Bautista: 143
4. DH Encarnacion: 121
5. 2B Travis: 124
6. C Martin: 112
7. 1B Colabello: 130
8. CF Pillar: 85
9. LF Revere: 107
you really want to be putting in a lesser RHP against that?
Good point there. AL East is pretty thin on LH SP’ers although the Red Sox are on the way to a mostly LH rotation the rest of the way but the Bj’s only have 6 left with them. Yankees will never allow CC to face the BJ’s and he is their only SPer from the left side.
However, the Yankees bullpen is heavily weighted with LHP’ers, although these guys handle RHB’ers as well. Most of the Yankee starters don’t go deep
Price has had his issues with the Yankees over the past couple of years, and if this continues he won’t help as much in the H2H matchups as they think.
But there is a reason you play the games, since baseball is unpredictable, and the Blue Jays have 77% of their games against other teams
This is some of the strangest trade analysis I’ve seen of these moves, completely misses point of why they made them.
You think a team with the longest postseason drought in North American sports is thinking about playoff platoon match-ups and splits?
I would hope their front office is thinking about this stuff. It’s kind of their job.
Yes, they are, because those things are important and the people involved are very smart.
I agree partially that other teams can mitigate the advantage, but the Jays big RH bats are all strong against all righties, particularly crappy ones. Yes, facing Herrera, Davis, and Holland will be tough for the Jays RH bats, but they’re tough against anybody. It’s really only the relievers like O’Day, who treat right handers like pitchers, and left handers like All-Stars, that could cause problems for the big 4 a the top of the Jays lineup.
I’d certainly love a better LH bat than Smoak, and would like to see the Jays deal Encarnacion in the off-season and replace him with a lefty to balance things out more, but for now, I’ll take the current Jays offense above any other team in baseball, no matter which team they face.
The Royals have Kris Medlen to throw out for game 4 already. Cueto pitched pretty well against the Blue Jays and would have Games 1 / 5 in the ALDS in the friendly confines of Kauffman.
Pen could have Herrera, Davis, Holland, Hochevar, Young, Guthrie, Duffy in it (as a LOOGY).
Interesting thing about that potential series is that Toronto has pitchers that could give Royals fits. Buerhle’s always been a soft-tossing Royal killer. Price is a great lefty… and we don’t fare well against him. Dickey just gave us hell.
It would be a hell of a series.
Going from being the best offense in the game against LHPs to merely being an elite offense against RHPs doesn’t sound like the Jays are sacrificing much of an advantage, especially in a playoff situation where an opponent has to bench a mid-tier lefty starter in favor of a questionable back-end righty to take “advantage” of Toronto’s being slightly less dominant.
TLDR: The Jays hit the ball real good against pitchers with hands.
I remember an analysis by Bill James (genuflect) that teams that rely on the home run fare better in the post season than those that rely on the stolen base, since good teams can almost eliminate the stolen base. Russell Martin sure does. This Blue Jays team’s offense is hard to stop with good OF defense, as the Royals found out.
If we are going to analyze possible playoff performance, I think this should also be considered.
Teams that score inconsistently, like the Jays do, are less likely to lose because of their exploitable weaknesses, but rather more likely to win or lose based on their luck/timing in scoring runs. In their case, mostly hitting home runs.
JB I think you’re confusing Houston with Toronto. Astros have scored 94 fewer runs while hitting more hrs.
Jays offence leads league in OBP, SLG, BB, Sac fly, doubles, highest BA for pinch hitters, 2nd with RISP, 4th lowest in SO. These are why I like this team a lot more than previous teams that solely relied on hrs for runs. JB their luck or timing is far more due to they’re a great hitting team.