Brett Cecil’s Descent?
We spend a lot of our time at FanGraphs focusing on players who have bright futures ahead of them — or campaigning to have a blocked player finally get a chance in the major leagues. This makes sense, since it’s human nature to look for the positives and see the future with optimism. Unfortunately, life doesn’t always turn out that way for ballplayers. Many of them flame out at a young age.
Are we witnessing the same fate for Toronto Blue Jays starter Brett Cecil? Following his disastrous 2011 — during which he spent a stint in the minors — Cecil reported to camp this year having shed more than 30 pounds, but his velocity was down in the 87-89 mph range. In his latest start, he allowed five walks in only 2.2 innings, and he gave up five runs. While it’s true that it’s only Spring Training, this isn’t good news for a pitcher who has experienced velocity issues in the past, and was once was counted on to be a reliable middle of the rotation starter. Let’s take a look at Cecil’s development, and how it compares to where he is in 2012.
While not overly regarded as a prospect, the former sandwich pick out of the University of Maryland did clock in at No. 3 on the Baseball America’s 2009 list of top Blue Jays prospects – though it was a rather thin crop. Cecil was called up that year to make his first career start on May 5, and he finished the year with 93.1 IP and a 5.37 FIP. The high FIP can be attributed to his allowing 1.64 home runs per 9 innings. Despite the high homer rate, expectations remained high for Cecil, and he made his 2010 debut on April 23. This time, he got his home run problem under control and posted 2.6 WAR on the strength of a 4.03 FIP. One of the big reasons for the improvement was doubling his change-up use to 23.8% at the expense of his below-average fastball. Still, if we look closely at his game log and his velocity charts, we see a disturbing trend. In five September starts that season, Cecil allowed 20 earned runs in 26 innings to go along with a 12:9 strikeout-to-walk ratio. When looking at his velocity chart, it’s apparent that his velocity began to lag two-thirds of the way through the season. And it really fell off in September, as he averaged 90 mph on his fastball in just one of those starts.
Unfortunately, these results continued in his third year, too. Cecil was demoted to AAA after four starts. He’d posted a 6.86 ERA and failed to average 90 mph on his fastball in any game. After returning to the big-league rotation on June 30, Cecil combatted his reduced velocity with an increased reliance on his change-up — which went up to 32.7%. But it was too much of a good thing, and his wCH/C fell from 0.46 to -0.30. By September, his average fastball velocity was down to 86-88 mph, compared to 90-92 mph in his rookie season.
Of course, velocity isn’t everything, especially for a guy like Cecil. Lots of soft-tossers have been successful by using command and devastating change-ups. Unfortunately, Cecil doesn’t appear to have much of either. He has a career BB/9 of 3.09, compared to a SP league average of 3.03, and his change-up has been -0.2 runs below average. These factors, combined with a slightly below-average ground-ball rate, do not paint a pretty picture. The club is reportedly happy with his weight loss and the look of his change-up in Spring Training, though the lack of velocity is still disconcerting. Correlation does not necessarily mean causation, but Cecil’s 2011 performance was fairly in-step with his velocity. His results were at their best in July when his velocity was pushing 90 mph. And he struggled, mostly with the long ball, in April and September, when his velocity was down.
With Ricky Romero, Brandon Morrow and Henderson Alvarez penciled into the rotation — and Dustin McGowan, Jesse Litsch, Luis Perez, Carlos Villanueva and Kyle Drabek all having varying ability to start — Cecil’s leash won’t be long this year. While we don’t want to infer too much, it is difficult to imagine that the recent McGowan extension is good news for Cecil. With the addition of a second wild card playoff spot, there’s a strong possibility that the Jays will be contending within the next couple of years. And if Cecil isn’t going to contribute, the club might be looking to find pitcher’s who will.

Cecil is certainly a guy who won’t end the year in the Jays rotation, let alone make it through April there. He is a lock to begin the year in the rotation in the number 2 spot, slated to face Boston on Tuesday April 10th… that will be strike one.
Three strikes and he’s out to vegas… Hutchison is nearly ready, McGowan isn’t expected to miss much time, and there’s a plethora of arms a step behind.
AA has been talking up Cecil as if he was talking trade… Wouldn’t be surprised to see that before he crashes and burns his way to Las Vegas.
By Number 2 spot, I meant number 4 spot… Number 2 on the home stand.
He seems like a prime candidate to head to the bullpen. I could see a scott downs type upside for him there. He might even be able to get his fastball to 90-91 in those short bursts.
But he’s pretty much Cole Hamels tho.
I’ll thumbs up that haha
For those who don’t get it, Mike Wilner is a Toronto sports talk show host who recently compared Cecil to Hamels, essentially suggesting they were the same pitcher.
In fairness, he actually said they have the same stuff, but that Hamels has way better command. While equally stupid and wrong, he never said Cecil was as good.
UMD represent! We should probably just stick to basketball .
I’m a RS fan, but if I were AA, I’d be looking and hard at Villanueva and Drabek. Maybe you can make a case for letting Drabek develop and not start his clock be leaving him in the minors a while, but those two are probably as dependable in the 4/5 slot as Bard and Doubront.
I’m a big Villanueva fan. If only he could combine his Brewer K/9 with his Jay BB/9… that would be a pitcher.
I’m aware this is not the right section but don’t want to sign up. My question is how many wins would a team of replacements be (in reference to WAR). Or even do different positions have a different starting point to base these WAR’s off of. Answer to this would be nice but just pointing to the right direction would be ok too.
Start here:
http://www.fangraphs.com/library/index.php/misc/war/
And just read through the links from that page, which should give you a pretty comprehensive idea of how everything fits together
Depending on who you talk to 48 – 52 wins for an all replacement team.
Great article Ryan.
I know it’s hard to speculate – but why is his velocity decreasing? He’s not nearly as old as Moyer, and he doesn’t seem to have any injury issues presently.
If he was hitting 92, and throwing wildly, then obviously he’d need to dial it down and focus on hitting his sports.
Very mysterious.
It isn’t that unusual to see a 3-4 MPH decrease in velo from a young pitcher’s rookie season to his 3rd or 4th year. Unfortunately, it often comes paired with an injury. If the guy started off throwing 96 MPH, it’s not that big of a deal to lose a bit of juice, but when you’re like Cecil and starting at 90-92, you have to have something else in the bag of tricks.
Yes – this. I’d bet the house he’s changed his motion a bit because something is hurting. It’s too bad. AA could probably put him in a deal as an extra to get something done/overpay a bit and move him. But individually I don’t know if any team would take the risk.
I’m not that high on Cecil. A mid 6 K/9, mid 4 ERA and a fastball on the wrong side of 90. Not very exciting in my books.
It wouldn’t surprise me to see a second-half rotation of Romero, Morrow, Alvarez, Drabek and Hutchison.
I think Cecil will be given a couple of months of starts, if only to try to build value for a possible deadline deal, but if he’s not producing by June or July I think he’ll be out of the rotation.
I hope it doesn’t take half a season to figure out he doesn’t belong in the rotation. We don’t need another Jo Jo this year. Between Villanueva and Drabek (once McGowan comes back) there doesn’t have to be any starting innings for Cecil.
Disagree. I would be very surprised to see Drabek still with the big club in the second half.
So in mid-May, with an FIP of 6 and having single-handedly doomed the Jays to 4th, Cecil will go on the DL for a TJ surgery he needed all along?
I wonder if the decrease in velocity is because he used to be a reliever in college and the Jays converted him. And if I recall correctly from an article somewhere that he may have also been abused a bit as a reliever in college.
It’s weird to see a guy lose so many mph at such a young age. He mentioned in a interview with Greg Chisholm that he used to top out at 97-98 when he was in the cape cod league.
*Gregor Chisholm
I think drabek should get cecil’s spot. But unfortunately in order to get anything for him in a trade Toronto will have to play him and hope he doesn’t implode. It’s more likely we will have to suffer through half a season of Cecil serving up bp taters to the rest of the AL east until Hutchison or McGuire get some more experience in the minors. I don’t see the upside to this guy at least not in a division with the sox and yanks.
Even with a good month or two or three Cecil’s trade value won’t be much. Can’t see AA mortgaging the season to improve his return on Cecil from 2 B- prospects into a marginal MLB lefty specialist or something. He’ll have a fair shot but also a short leash, to buy some SP prospects a little time to force the issue.
I’ve always liked Cecil and root for him to do well but have a feeling he’ll end up more like a Jeff Fassero or Scott Downs. If anyone’s interested in more on Cecil’s career arc, check this out:
http://www.therichardandmartin.com/2012/03/23/projecting-brett-cecil/
Today’s start really should seal his fate for opening day. What a brutal line, and from the sounds of it, he was getting absolutely shelled. Gave up 7 straight hits I believe and was throwing 86-87 mostly, although he threw at least one that was 89, but that one was taken yard by Prince.
Optioned to AA ouch.