The Dodgers have a Weakness, and They’re Addressing it

Back when I was a beat writer covering the Pirates, manager Clint Hurdle had a practice each spring camp when he and front office staffers would identify one area that was a weakness a season earlier and try to improve upon it. Rather than focus on many things, Hurdle would try to sharpen one area. One year it was defensive alignment, another year it was pitcher’s hitting ability and in 2014 it was the club’s two-strike approach.

In 2013, the season when the Pirates returned to the postseason and ended a run of 20 consecutive losing seasons, the Pirates pitched well, shifted often, and used an MVP season from Andrew McCutchen to record 94 wins. One thing the club didn’t do well is hit with two strikes. The club finished 26th in the game with a .474 two-strike OPS.

So in the spring of 2014, after their two-strike performance was identified as an issue, in the open-air batting cages of the Pirates’ Bradenton, Fla. complex the Pirates went to work with hitting coach Jeff Branson on better using the whole field, trying to be more contact-oriented with two strikes. The Pirates cut their two-strike strikeout rate by 2.3% and improved their two-strike OPS to .533, fifth in the majors. Russell Martin was a key adopter. He produced a career-best .402 on-base mark in 2014, up from .327 a year earlier, in part large due to a .337 two-strike, on-base mark. He cut his strikeouts by four percentage points, and his pull % by another five points.

While it was a small sample in the sense it was one season for the Pirates, it was still a sample of 3,152 plate appearances that included two strikes in 2014, with many of the key actors returning from the previous season. It seemed to speak to improvement from focused practice and attention.

I am returning to this subject today because I believe it is perhaps an instructive example of where a field manager can add value after front office leadership hands him a roster to work with in early February. A manager does not have much power to add or subtract personnel. But perhaps a manager and his coaching staff can add value in identifying a team-wide weakness, like two-strike approach, and implement a plan to improve it. And the time to identify and improve, collectively as a team, is in the spring. I am returning to this subject today because of the Dodgers.

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The Dodgers do not have many weakness as we approach the season. In FanGraphs’ positional depth chart rankings published over the two weeks, they rank No. 1 in starting pitching and bullpen forecasts, No. 3 at shortstop, No. 4 at catcher and No. 7 at third base. They are tied with the Cubs atop FanGraphs’ preseason standings projections along with the Cubs at 94 wins. The Dodgers are projected to lead the majors in run differential (124).

But the Dodgers don’t do everything well. Really! And the Dodgers are aware of this.

In Baseball America’s preview issue this week — well worth a read, everyone — Hall of Famer Peter Gammons wrote about how the Dodgers are trying to copy the success of the division-rival Giants, who have developed a successful two-strike approach. The Giants believe that approach is encouraged by a home park that is not inviting of pull power. Reported Gammons in BA’s paper product:

Manager Dave Roberts, team president Andrew Friedman and all of the Dodgers’ people are well aware of the Giants’ two-strike success. They’re also aware that Dodgers batters tended to drop their back shoulders with two strikes as they tried to yank the ball to their pull side. …

“It’s what we’ve emphasized all spring,” Roberts said “It is getting better.”

Last March, Eno Sarris looked at whether hitters have lost their two-strike approach. It is more difficult to hit with two-strikes today due to the velocity and movement in the game, but there should remain a relative advantage available. Teams with more of a focus on reducing strikeouts, with more bat-to-ball skills, should be more efficient with two strikes. In 2015, the Royals had the fewest strikeouts in baseball and ranked third in two-strike OPS en route to a World Series title. The Giants, that season, ranked fourth in two-strike OPS. Here is last season’s two-strike production:

MLB Two-Strike Production (2016)
Rk Team BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS
1 BOS 271 1160 0.209 0.277 0.324 0.601
2 COL 259 1330 0.191 0.261 0.320 0.582
3 CHC 323 1339 0.184 0.273 0.292 0.565
4 STL 258 1318 0.184 0.256 0.292 0.549
5 BAL 240 1324 0.180 0.245 0.301 0.546
6 WSN 241 1252 0.180 0.248 0.294 0.543
7 CLE 269 1246 0.181 0.256 0.286 0.542
8 MIA 203 1213 0.199 0.255 0.284 0.540
9 DET 234 1303 0.182 0.249 0.289 0.538
10 ARI 218 1427 0.183 0.242 0.291 0.533
11 SFG 283 1107 0.184 0.263 0.269 0.533
12 CHW 246 1285 0.185 0.252 0.280 0.532
13 LAA 236 991 0.185 0.258 0.274 0.531
14 TOR 320 1362 0.168 0.253 0.275 0.528
15 SEA 259 1288 0.177 0.250 0.277 0.527
16 PIT 269 1334 0.182 0.256 0.271 0.527
17 TEX 213 1220 0.180 0.244 0.278 0.522
18 OAK 200 1145 0.177 0.235 0.288 0.522
19 MIN 241 1426 0.175 0.238 0.282 0.520
20 NYM 258 1302 0.164 0.240 0.263 0.504
21 ATL 213 1240 0.177 0.237 0.261 0.498
22 NYY 240 1188 0.169 0.239 0.258 0.497
23 LAD 284 1321 0.155 0.239 0.258 0.497
24 CIN 217 1284 0.173 0.236 0.258 0.494
25 HOU 263 1452 0.157 0.234 0.259 0.493
26 KCR 203 1224 0.173 0.233 0.251 0.484
27 SDP 256 1500 0.154 0.227 0.253 0.480
28 MIL 298 1543 0.154 0.233 0.244 0.477
29 TBR 233 1482 0.156 0.224 0.253 0.477
30 PHI 229 1376 0.160 0.228 0.245 0.473
TOT 7477 38982 0.176 0.246 0.276 0.522
SOURCE: Baseball Reference

There are quite a few playoff teams at the top of that list.

The Dodgers are also aware of another Giants’ hidden edge, that of pitchers’ offensive performance as the Dodgers ranked 10th in the NL in pitcher OPS (.290) while the Giants ranked fourth (.405). Sure, rostering Madison Bumgarner doesn’t hurt that effort.

But if the Dodgers have a buy in to an improved two-strike concept perhaps they can be even more productive as an offensive group this season. That the most talented team according to projections is focused on getting better at the little things, on improving at the margins this spring, should be concerning to the rest of the field.





A Cleveland native, FanGraphs writer Travis Sawchik is the author of the New York Times bestselling book, Big Data Baseball. He also contributes to The Athletic Cleveland, and has written for the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, among other outlets. Follow him on Twitter @Travis_Sawchik.

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chazzycatMember since 2016
9 years ago

Would it be possible to get some park adjusted numbers? Colorado & Boston at the top seems suspicious…

MGL
9 years ago

“So in the spring of 2014, after their two-strike performance was identified as an issue, in the open-air batting cages of the Pirates’ Bradenton, Fla. complex the Pirates went to work with hitting coach Jeff Branson on better using the whole field, trying to be more contact-oriented with two strikes. The Pirates cut their two-strike strikeout rate by 2.3% and improved their two-strike OPS to .533, fifth in the majors. Russell Martin was a key adopter. He produced a career-best .402 on-base mark in 2014, up from .327 a year earlier, in part large due to a .337 two-strike, on-base mark. He cut his strikeouts by four percentage points, and his pull % by another five points.”

Regression toward the mean.

Team is bad at X. If they do NOTHING, very good chance they will be better in the future. Do SOMETHING and even if it’s worthless, also very good chance they will be better in the future.

So basically that scenario above tells us nothing about the effectiveness of the “treatment.”

Reminds me of the Daniel Kahneman story of the Israeli Navy pilots where the instructors would yell and scream at their students after a bad run and lo and behold they would do better the next time. So the instructors concluded that yelling and screaming was an effective teaching tool.

I wonder how the 2-strike result (say OPS) correlates with overall results. I imagine quite a bit. I also wonder how much noise there is in the difference. I also imagine quite a bit.

If I were consulting with a team I would advise them to be very careful in going down this route. It’s complicated.

tramps like us
9 years ago
Reply to  MGL

I agree. We should look closer at several year performances, as opposed to small sample sizes.

Luy
9 years ago
Reply to  MGL

This seems like applying an undeniably true idea to a situation where it may not actually apply.

Hard to understand how a career high is a regression to the mean. Or how going from bottom five to top five is regression to the mean. I guess I’m saying I’m not convinced that referencing a smart idea is a strong case against the Pirates actually making improvements here.

jsshermMember since 2018
9 years ago

Don’t you want to compare two strike offense to non two strike offense? Otherwise you get a list of the best offenses.

Paul Clarke
9 years ago
Reply to  jssherm

Yes. Here’s the top 10 by the smallest drop between overall OPS to two-strike OPS (assuming the table works):

Edit: table didn’t work

Some good teams in there, but also some not so good.

Paul Clarke
9 years ago
Reply to  Paul Clarke

To fill in: the top 10 were the Marlins, As, Giants, White Sox, Angels, Pirates, Braves, Cubs, Nationals and Padres.

Edited to add: Using ratio instead of difference brought in the Red Sox to replace the Padres.

Jetsy Extrano
9 years ago

Do teams all have a similar number of balls in these two-strike counts, or does that vary significantly?

Paul Clarke
9 years ago
Reply to  Jetsy Extrano

Last year the range was 2848 PAs (Angels) to 3329 (Cubs).

tramps like us
9 years ago

Full disclosure-Giants fan here. In the 60’s and 70’s, there was what was known as The Dodgers Way To Play Baseball. May have even been a book (Al Campanis?) And for the longest time, the Cardinals have been known as THE team to look to when it comes on how to play the game right. As one who still painfully remembers when Johnny Lemaster (a fine man, as mediocre an every-player as there ever was) hit leadoff for the Giants, I’ve been SO pleased with how they play the game. From hitting the cutoff man, to taking the extra base, to just not beating themselves with mental errors, they’ve just been fantastic for a long time now. So while I’m pleased to read this, it doesn’t surprise me. And it’s just one more reason why every year the Dodgers have a better team, but every year the Giants go further.

rzbzadraMember since 2025
9 years ago
Reply to  tramps like us

The Giants don’t go further every year.

Graves
9 years ago
Reply to  tramps like us

I’m confused what your point is, the Dodgers shouldn’t try to improve their two strike approach? Full Disclosure: I’m a Dodgers fan. “Every year the Giants go further.” Dodgers have won the division the last 4 years, and have “gone further” in the Postseason the last two years. But I get it, 3 World Series in 5 years will cloud your judgment for at least a few more years.
Lastly I would invite you to go take a long walk on a short bridge.

tramps like us
9 years ago
Reply to  Graves

OK so I obviously botched it. And when digging a hole, it’s not good to dig deeper. My alternative facts ain’t gonna cut it and I’ll take the deserved beating. I’ll limit the boasting to this, then…the Giants seem to get more out of their team, and go further, than the sum of their parts should take them. They do the little things exceptionally well. The Dodgers don’t.

Stevil
9 years ago
Reply to  tramps like us

There was nothing wrong with your comment at all. There’s no denying the Giants’ success, regardless of how many down-votes are dished out. This post wouldn’t even exist if they weren’t doing things right!

victorvran
9 years ago
Reply to  tramps like us

it has been exactly 0 seasons since the dodgers went further than the giants in the playoffs.

Graves
9 years ago
Reply to  victorvran

The 2017 Season has not yet officially begun. So you can’t make this claim for another 43 hours.

victorvran
9 years ago
Reply to  Graves

2017 having not started is why I CAN make that claim…?

0 seasons have occurred since the dodgers went further in the playoffs than the giants.

tramps like us
9 years ago
Reply to  Graves

Hey Graves-I think you (especially you) got the gist of it. Sore spot, I know. 1988 plus (now) 21 hours.

Dominikk85Member since 2020
9 years ago

I think another weakness might be launch angle. Last year the Dodgers had the 9th highest grounder rate. Their park does not help but I think they could hit more hr if they get some guys to elevate more.

dl80Member since 2020
9 years ago

Interestingly, Martin has been bad to terrible with two strikes since 2014. He was .182/.278/.324 in 2015 and .127/.232/.243 last year. That’s not surprising, but it does indicate that 2014 was likely just a flukey outlier for him, at least.

Jose Ramirez hit .275/.327/.401 with 2 strikes last year.

Daniel Murphy hit .280/.306/.517.

Mike Trout went .233/.375/.409.

Wolvendael
9 years ago

I think this is a reason we might see Alex Verdugo if Puig, Pederson or Toles struggles. The guy’s contact ability is off the charts, and he hit .316 last year while behind in the count (source: MiLB splits). He’s the perfect complement to that current roster – contact with just enough pop and speed.

jianadaren
9 years ago

Any explanation how the Royals went from 3rd in 2015 to 26th in 2016 in 2-strike OPS? Seems noisy.

Dont Snort The Foul Lines
9 years ago

While the Dodgers did struggle to hit the ball with two strikes they had the 8th fewest PAs with 2 strikes, 55% of those were worked to 3-2 counts or 2-2 counts. So they were 4th in fewest number of PAs at 0-2 and 1-2. They were 9th in the PAs when ahead in the count. My whole point is that the less you get two strikes on you the less important it is. The best way to hit with two strikes is not get two strikes.