The Link Between MLB Teams and Specific Countries
At the Cincinnati Enquirer, C. Trent Rosencrans notes that, after Ichiro Suzuki plays his first game in a Miami Marlins uniform, the Reds will be the only of the 30 MLB teams to never employ a player born in Japan at the major-league level. (Tip of the hat to MLBTradeRumors.)
Here is a quote that Rosencrans shares from Reds General Manager Walt Jocketty:
We do have some people who do cross-checking, we don’t have a scout in Japan. It’s too costly.
I am totally befuddled by Jocketty’s sentiment here. There is an argument to be made that, compared to the cost of a marginally helpful free agent (i.e., the $4.5M buyout owed ex-Red Ryan Ludwick this season), employing a Japan-based scout provides significantly more dollar-for-dollar value for the organization.
But, to stay even more inside the box here: an MLB team does not need a Japan-based scout in order to make well-informed judgments about Japanese-born players. There is, for example, Suzuki himself, who has been on this side of the Pacific for 14 seasons and over 2,000 games before floating around for months in this winter’s free agent market.
Even more relevant to the Reds and their current roster construction: Nori Aoki, projected by Steamer for 1.5 WAR in 564 PA’s next year, was signed to a 1-year/$4M contract by the (defending World Champion) San Francisco Giants a little over a week ago. The Reds are currently projected to receive 0.2 WAR from their left fielders, including 0.5 from Marlon Byrd. Although Byrd comes with the same 2015 price tag as Aoki (the Phillies are picking up $4M of Byrd’s $8M salary, per Spotrac), the Reds had to give up prospect Ben Lively in order to get Byrd. The Reds have been able to monitor Aoki in the Majors for three full seasons now (including two seasons in their own division), which is more total games and plate appearances than you’d be able to see any prospect you’d be drafting, right? As Rosencrans points out, the Reds have employed three Korean players over the years (Shin-Soo Choo, Jung Bong, and Sun-Woo Kim), and all three of these players came to the Reds from other major league teams, not directly from Korea.
Now, I do not believe nor wish to imply that the Reds of the past or the present harbor a bizarre prejudice against Japanese people. There are all sorts of reasonable hypothetical explanations why certain deals didn’t work out. For instance: maybe the Reds pursued Aoki early in the winter, but Aoki’s asking price was too high for the Reds’ sensibilities, and so the Reds eventually find a Plan B in the Byrd trade. Meantime, Aoki finds that nobody is willing to pay his asking price, and many weeks later he settles with the Giants’ offer.
At the same time, I can’t help but think of the NBA’s San Antonio Spurs. The Spurs won last year’s championship using a 14-man roster that included eight foreign-born players from six different countries. The Spurs have long made it an organizational priority to scour the entire globe for the best available talent, and the results are obvious in terms of both the players that the Spurs draft and also the players that the Spurs acquire from elsewhere around the league.
So! I’m curious: what will we find if we look at the number of players per country that each Major League team has employed? Are there teams who aggressively scour the globe — or maybe just aggressively scout certain corners of it? Are there any obviously conservative teams?
Using the Baseball Reference Play Index, I’m going to look at major league rosters since the 1998 season, since that was the last time the league expanded, thus giving each of the 30 teams the same amount of time to acquire international players. I’m going to look at the five non-U.S. countries who have contributed the greatest number of players — but I’m not going to consider Canada or Puerto Rico, since those players are drafted alongside Americans each June.
And now a giant caveat that this is an informal survey. Obviously there is a pretty big difference between an organization developing a player from an international academy, and then trading for a guy with an expiring contract at the trade deadline — but the numbers below will count these as one and the same:
Dominican Republic – 130 in 2014 – 618 all-time
| Top Five | |
| Nationals | 52 |
| Royals | 52 |
| Orioles | 51 |
| Dodgers | 50 |
| Mets | 49 |
| Bottom Five | |
| Angels | 20 |
| A’s | 20 |
| Twins | 22 |
| Padres | 24 |
| Mariners | 26 |
It seems totally improbable, given the ease and relatively low expense of plane travel — but could it be that the geography of an MLB team’s home stadium has an effect on international recruiting. Of the five teams who have employed the fewest Dominicans, four are in West Divisions, with the other in the Central Division. Among the five teams who have employed the most Dominicans, three are in East Divisions, with only the famously progressive Dodgers from a Western Division.
The last MLB team to not employ a Dominican player was the 2012 Arizona Diamondbacks — another West Division team.
Venezuela – 90 in 2014 – 321 all-time
| Top Five | |
| Mariners | 32 |
| Tigers | 29 |
| Rockies | 27 |
| Padres | 25 |
| Mets | 25 |
| Rangers | 25 |
| Bottom Five | |
| Cardinals | 8 |
| A’s | 9 |
| Reds | 13 |
| Rays | 13 |
| Dodgers | 14 |
| Angels | 14 |
The geographies here appear to be totally random — which, really, makes more sense. The Mariners lead the league in employing Venezuelans despite being as far from that country as an MLB team could be. Both the Angels and the A’s make another Bottom Five appearance in terms of recruiting from the two largest international pipelines of baseball talent.
Cuba – 23 in 2014 – 186 all-time
| Top Five | |
| Yankees | 9 |
| Rays | 8 |
| Braves | 8 |
| White Sox | 7 |
| Mets | 7 |
| Bottom Five | |
| Astros | 0 |
| Angels | 1 |
| Indians | 1 |
| Twins | 2 |
| A’s | 2 |
| Pirates | 2 |
| Giants | 2 |
| Nationals | 2 |
The Mets have now made all three Top Five appearances, singular in their balanced pursuit of these three most prolific international markets. The A’s and Angels are also again in the bottom five, and the Twins have now joined them two of the three times also.
The Astros have played six Cubans in their history, but with the most recent one being Oscar Zamora in 1978.
Mexico – 11 in 2014 – 114 all-time
| Top Five | |
| Padres | 14 |
| Rockies | 13 |
| Pirates | 10 |
| Diamondbacks | 9 |
| Dodgers | 9 |
| Bottom Five | |
| Giants | 1 |
| Red Sox | 2 |
| White Sox | 2 |
| Rays | 2 |
| Phillies | 2 |
Don’t know what to make of this: four of the five Top Five teams reside in the NL West, and then there’s the Giants with a single, solitary Mexican player. The Padres and Rockies have now both made two Top Fives, with the Rays and Giants in their second Bottom Five.
Japan – 13 in 2014 – 61 all-time
| Top Five | |
| Mets | 11 |
| Red Sox | 8 |
| Mariners | 8 |
| Yankees | 7 |
| Dodgers | 7 |
| Bottom Five | |
| Reds | 0 |
| Marlins | 0 |
| Orioles | 1 |
| Tigers | 2 |
| Twins | 2 |
| Diamondbacks | 2 |
| Braves | 2 |
| Phillies | 2 |
| Cardinals | 2 |
There are those Mets again! While they’re far from the first team that comes to mind in terms of progressive baseball practices, they are clearly lapping the field here in terms of both the quantity and variety of international players they’ve played.
What’s most bizarre about the Reds’ and (until now) Marlins’ lack of Japanese players is that the 61 total Japanese players includes guys who, while born in Japan, were raised in America, like Dave Roberts, or Jeff McCurry. And still none of those guys found their way to Cincinnati or Miami. (The Orioles at least made their one Japanese player count: it was Koji Uehara.)
The Reds also finished Bottom Five in Venezuelan players, and compiled no Top Fives. But, compared to the rosters in Anaheim, Oakland, and Minneapolis, the Reds have been far from homogenous.
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I often say that the Omar Minaya Mets focused too much on latino players, nice to see I was probably kind of right
Having quite a few Latin American players does not at all imply that he focused on them too much – the only problem would be if he signed too many *bad* Latin American players.
Byrd will do better than 0.5 WAR. That projection is beyond a joke. He’s been worth over 6 the past 2 years. Literally every other projection models have him at 1.5-2. Steamer is a joke.
Byrd was absolutely dreadful in the 2nd half (from May 10th on he hit .249 – .301 – .425 with 146 K’s in 499 PA’s), and he turns 38 years of age this season.
I wouldn’t be shocked at all if he’s near replacement level this year
Projecting next seasons solely from the last couple months will cost you a lot of money.
If he were turning 28 and coming off an injury, you’d be correct but he isn’t so you aren’t
Your numbers are wrong. Additionally, that’s a very selective endpoint.
He’ll be near the level that legitimately every other single projection has him at (1.5-2.0 WAR) barring an injury. Stop being dumb.
The Braves have signed a lot of guys from Curacao who’ve made it to the majors.
The Braves have made a point of scouting Latin countries that other teams don’t scout as much. Besides Curacao, that includes Panama, and I think a better connection to Venezuela than other teams have. (One of their scouts has a brother that runs an academy in Venezuela.)
I know Julio Teheren is from Colombia, which is also a nontraditional Latin baseball source.
Curacao is a Latin country? Well, it’s not far from Latin America, I guess.
For context it would be useful to see how many unique players each team has used over the same time span, ignoring nationality. Perhaps the Mets just have a lot higher churn than the Angels and A’s.
Very surprised not to see the Twins near the top with Venezuelans…
As for having only two Cubans, at least they really count: Zolio Versailles and Tony Oliva!
Tsuyoshi Nishioka?
Shoelace gumdrop towel?
… by himself explains why the Twins list ends at 2.
Part time scouts in Japan/Asia-Pacific only make about $2000-3000 a year to start, and eventually rise higher. I think Jocketty’s comment about the expense referred to the costs of signing a Tanaka or a Darvish.
It would be smart to have a guy in Japan though. A lot of guys on the fringes of MLB rosters have Japan/Korea experience.
Agreed on what Jocketty was trying to say.
When the quote originally came out Reds fans were talking about how crazy it was to not be able to pay a scout over there. Immediately I thought that he was referring to it being too costly to sign the players from Japan, not too costly to pay the scouts. They’ve got 29 guys listed in their media guide on the international scouting side of things. His quote had nothing to do with the cost of the scout and everything to do with the cost of signing the players.
He may have in fact been talking about it being too costly to sign those players but he still said he has no scouts there – which is ridiculous. Plenty of Japanese players sign in the states once they’ve reached their free agency servitude quota there – the Reds should have a book on every one of them – most of them sign rather cheaply.
They employ six different Scouting Consultants in Australia but none in Taiwan, South Korea, or Japan. That’s unacceptable IMHO.
Also Baltimore has signed a number of Japanese players to minor league contracts, and while Wei-Yin Chen is Taiwanese, all his pro experience is from Japan. Baltimore hired Ray Poitevint (http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Ray_Poitevint), a scout with ties to Japan, a few years ago. I don’t know if he’s still in their org though.
Can Canada be included?
duh, clearly I should read closer. If it were done I would think Milwaukee would be high on the list, especially recently.
Very strange parameters used here.
Number of Japanese players signed out of Japan by the Phillies:
ZERO
Number of Koreans:
ZERO
Why?
“Too expensive”
This from one of the very richest teams in MLB.
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Maybe Jocketty was just channeling Marge Schott (“Why should I hire scouts? All they do is watch baseball games.”) with his comment.
Didn’t Walt Jocketty sign So Taguchi when he was with St. Louis?
Interesting, but tends to mingle international scouting with acquisition of foreign-born players. Illustration of issue: the Red Sox have had quite a few international players, some of them big stars; but as far as I know, Junichi Tazawa is their only international amateur signee who has ever had a substantial career with them.
Boegarts was signed as an international amateur from Aruba and is expected to have a substantial career. Roger Moret out of Puerto Rico had quite the career at least as substantial as Tazawa.
The lost out to the Yankees in bidding for Cuban aose Contreras.
Juen Beniquez, another puerto rican had a 17 year career, not all with the Red Sox
And of course, Hanley Ramirez from the DR
Aoki was rumored as a target but wasn’t going to give the Reds a one-year deal. It stands to reason that he’d give a better deal to the defending champs, not to mention the fact that SF has a Japantown.
Why are Roberts and McCurry showing up as Japanese players? The rules on citizenship are entirely different in Japan – they’re not Japanese and can never become Japanese. And unless they grew up there, American teams didn’t have to make any special effort to scout and recruit them, either. Their birthplace is a factoid, not a meaningful fact.
Eenh, I’d be fairly comfortable implying that the Reds of the past harbor a bizarre prejudice against Japanese people.
The Reds had Dave Concepcion as Captain and inducted him into their team HoF. For sure, they were not biased against that particular Venezuelan
Surprised not to see Jays at the top with Venezuelans. Jays and Cardenales had an agreement and they shared a lot of players. Once, they had 6 Venezuelans playing at the same time
Giants? Between them and Tigers , 9 Venezuelans played the 2012 WS and 5 were Giants
Last April 9, DBacks and Giants played 10 Venezuelans
Also surprised not no the Phillies. Ruben Amaro played in Venezuela, and his father is married with one of the owners of a Venezuelan team he managed. Back then, the team had an agreement with Philadelphia ( later with Cubs after Dallas Green ran with the club )
Curacao is not a Latin country but a Caribbean island with close ties with Venezuela and was part of the Latin American confederation of Amateur baseball ( before becoming part of the European Confederation with Holland). Rougner Odor was born in Venezuela, his parents came here from Curacao