The New And Not-So-Improved Mike Trout

The divisional round of the playoffs is in the books, and the sport is taking a deep breath for a couple of days before the final four tournament gets underway. Both wild card survivors live on, the team with the best record in each league has been sent home, and all viable regular season MVP candidates suddenly have some unexpected free time on their hands. In fact, the two likely frontrunners, Mike Trout and Clayton Kershaw, were among the primary culprits for their respective teams’ defeats.

Kershaw, most visibly, had a couple of really bad 7th innings, and Trout pulled the ol’ 1 for 15 as the Angels were swept by the Royals. It’s small sample size theater, obviously – these guys are generational greats, no matter what happened in the 2014 playoffs. In the details of Trout’s exceptional 2014 season, however, lie the imprint of some worrisome trends that might be signs of long-term trouble.

Trout has been a devastating force from the moment he first put on a professional uniform. An absolute steal with the 25th overall pick in the 2009 draft as a 17-year-old, Trout laid waste to the minor leagues to the tune of a .342-.425-.516 line, as the youngest player in every league in which he played. I scouted him in the Midwest League when he was 18 years old, and put a Mickey Mantle comp on him. 80 raw power, 80 speed. Such tools and performance marked him as a likely future superstar, but as we all know, a lot can happen on the way to the big leagues. As it turned out, Trout was even better than anyone could have imagined once he established himself with the Angels.

Trout’s first two seasons in the big leagues were the stuff of legend – 10.1 and 10.5 WAR, hit for average, hit for power, play impact defense at a key position, and run like the wind, for volume but with efficiency. He did everything but win an MVP Award, but that’s a topic for another day. Miguel Cabrera’s considerable peak – with a shiny Triple Crown as its beacon – happened to coincide with Trout’s monumental debut seasons. No problem – he’d almost certainly rack up a handful before his time was done, and he still might, with his first crown likely to be bestowed upon him shortly.

Quite clearly, however, Trout’s third season doesn’t quite measure up to his first two – there is simply no competitor of 2012-13 Cabrera’s caliber to take him down this time around. 7.8 WAR is still nothing to sneeze at – perhaps not a historic season, but still good enough to contend for hardware in most seasons. It’s perfectly within an acceptable range of variation for a star player – from 10.1, to 10.5, to 7.8 WAR – who wouldn’t sign up for that? The Angels would sign on the dotted line – again – right now for a player with guaranteed annual 7.8 WAR production over the next decade. They locked him up through 2020 for a total of $139.5M over the next six years, including a cool $33.25M per year over the last three. Any way you slice it, despite that record annual salary, it’s almost impossible to envision a scenario in which Trout is not a bargain, even in those three peak salary years.

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It’s not the decline in performance in 2014 that is a reason to at least be slightly concerned about the future of Mike Trout – it’s the nature of that decline. Let’s take a closer look at Trout’s 2014 plate appearance outcome frequency and production by BIP type data to assess the situation. First, the frequency information:

FREQ – 2013
Trout % REL PCT
K 19.0% 105 62
BB 15.4% 191 98
POP 5.0% 61 11
FLY 31.3% 109 61
LD 24.3% 113 82
GB 39.5% 94 46
FREQ – 2014
Trout % REL PCT
K 26.1% 128 81
BB 11.8% 155 90
POP 9.5% 123 70
FLY 35.1% 125 90
LD 22.1% 106 64
GB 33.3% 77 8

Obviously, the first thing that stands out is the significant increase in Trout’s K rate from 19.0% in 2013 (62 percentile rank) to 26.1% in 2014 (81 percentile rank). That is an awfully big one-season jump. His BB rate, though still quite high, also moved in the wrong direction, declining from 15.4% in 2013 (98 percentile rank) to 11.8% in 2014 (90 percentile rank). This might be one case when the raw numbers grab you more than the rate data – his K-BB differential was 26 in 2013, and 101 in 2014. That is far from inconsequential.

One of the most staggering aspects of Trout’s 2012-13 dominance was his ability to maximize positive outcomes while minimizing negative ones. For example, this was a slugger who didn’t pop up, as evidenced by his 5.0% 2013 popup rate (11 percentile rank). His popup rate almost doubled in 2014, to 9.5% (70 percentile rank). That’s a lot more free outs given to pitchers via strikeout and popup – almost 50% more in 2014 compared to 2013.

His liner rate also decreased in 2014 (64 percentile rank) as compared to 2013 (82 percentile rank), but I’m not concerned about that one. Liner rates fluctuate more than that of other batted ball types, and Trout’s has been above MLB average – though steadily declining – in his three seasons. I would be more concerned about the spike in his fly ball rate to a 90 percentile rank in 2014. That, coupled with the decline in his grounder rate to an 8 percentile rank, puts him in some not-so-good company.

In 2013, only 17 of the 135 primary AL position players – only 12.6% of them – hit more fly balls than grounders. They were:

Brandon Moss
Chris Davis
Nick Franklin
Evan Longoria
Colby Rasmus
Jarrod Saltalamacchia
Daniel Nava
A.J. Pierzynski
Nick Swisher
Matt Wieters
Jed Lowrie
Kelly Johnson
Asdrubal Cabrera
Justin Smoak
Raul Ibanez
Brian Roberts
Chris Carter

Franklin spent most of 2014 in the minors, and Wieters spent most of the season on the disabled list, so let’s throw them out of our analysis. The other 15 players had an average OPS+ of 118 in 2013…..and 92 in 2014. Carter was the only one of the group whose OPS+ increased in 2014. Davis, Ibanez, Swisher and Smoak experienced the largest declines, but most of the plunges were quite steep. The average age of these 15 players in 2013 was exactly 30. Mike Trout’s 2014 fly/ground imbalance is not a positive development. It’s a trait of an older player who is about to experience a significant decline.

And that’s just the frequency info – now let’s look at his production by batted-ball type data to gain better perspective regarding his all-around offensive package:

PROD – 2013
Trout AVG OBP SLG REL PRD ADJ PRD
FLY 0.362 1.080 191 187
LD 0.645 0.944 106 121
GB 0.356 0.391 228 126
ALL BIP 0.410 0.711 178 162
ALL PA 0.317 0.423 0.549 183 170
PROD – 2014
Trout AVG OBP SLG REL PRD ADJ PRD
FLY 0.380 1.153 236 239
LD 0.698 1.128 135 128
GB 0.346 0.392 206 154
ALL BIP 0.405 0.792 201 187
ALL PA 0.283 0.369 0.553 165 156

This data shows some continued growth on Trout’s part. As hard as he hit the ball in the air in 2013 (187 REL PRD after adjustment for context), he hit it even harder in 2014 (239), in an overall offensive environment that showed a decline in MLB fly ball authority. His line drive (121 to 128 REL PRD) and grounder (126 to 154 REL PRD) authority also increased from 2013 to 2014. The continued significant impact of his speed upon his offensive game – despite the decline in his stolen base totals – can be seen in the substantial difference between his actual production on grounders (228 and 201 ADJ PRD in 2013 and 2014, respectively) and his REL PRD figures. This is what I call his “speed premium”.

Overall, he’s been a better ball striker in 2014 (187 ADJ PRD on all BIP, adjusted for context) than in 2013 (162). Once you add back the K and BB, however, the tide turns, with his overall 2014 ADJ PRD figure of 156 lagging his 2013 mark of 170. He crushes the baseball, and his ball-crushing trend line is positive, as one would expect of a 22-year-old. When you dig a little deeper into his batted-ball data, however, you find additional troubling information.

Trout pulled the ball an awful lot more in 2014 compared to 2013, particularly on the ground. His grounder “pull ratio” – (GB to LF + LCF)/(GB to RCF + RF) – mushroomed from a near MLB average (for a righthanded hitter) of 3.50 in 2013 to an extremely high 6.12 in 2014. This means that Trout is now a clear infield overshift candidate. At this stage of his career, Trout’s ability to crush the baseball along with his top-shelf speed have enabled him to bat about .350 on grounders over the last two seasons, over 100 points above the MLB average. Trout won’t be able to run like this forever – what happens if this pulling trend continues and/or intensifies? Chris Davis is an even more extreme ground ball puller. He certainly can’t run like Trout, but he is lefthanded and gets a head start to first base. Davis batted .129 on grounders this season. If Trout was merely a league average producer on grounders – .245 AVG – in 2014, his average drops to .266.

Interestingly, there is a fairly strong likelihood that Trout’s home run power still has room to grow. In 2013, he hit exactly 6 extreme pull fly balls (to the LF sector), and in 2014, increased that to a whopping 11. Trout still has plenty of room to increase his homer total by learning to selectively pull the ball in the air. The one positive aspect of his increased fly ball total is that it led to an increase in his homer total. With more pulled fly balls, Trout could become a 50-homer guy at some point in the next few seasons.

That said, he appears to have become a power-before-hit guy rather than the hit-before-power guy he was in 2012 and 2013. The aforementioned factors underlying his 2014 performance – the increased K’s, popups and fly balls, and the increased pull tendency on the ground – are hallmarks of older players. Trout has pushed himself several years forward on his personal aging curve, and as it is with the defensive spectrum, it’s a lot easier to move in one direction than the other. It’s similar to fighting the force of gravity.

Mike Trout is not in a steady, inexorable decline. He is an incredible athlete, with elite ball-impacting skills. He will win more MVP Awards, and his current contract is very likely to turn out to be a bargain. That said, my long-term prognosis for him isn’t as sunny as it was entering this season. Offensively, he looks a lot more like Giancarlo Stanton than Mickey Mantle going forward. Mantle struck out a lot, but he had the platoon advantage each and every time he batted in the major leagues. Trout apparently has sold out the approach that worked for him in his first two seasons for power, power, power. He’ll exhibit plenty of it in the coming seasons, but I would expect him to be a much different player at the end of his current contract than he is today. Someday, he’ll have to move to an outfield corner, and 2014 marked his first large step to a corner outfielder skill set. He now appears much more likely to experience a conventional aging curve rather than a Hank Aaron-esque hit-before-power path that features peak level performance as late as one’s late thirties.





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Andre the Angels Fan
11 years ago

Dave
11 years ago

Yeah, I would say that his selling out for power probably wasn’t worth it. He gained maybe 5-10 HR, but dropped in every other category. He should go back to his previous plan at the plate.

Hurtlockertwo
11 years ago
Reply to  Dave

Agreed, but maybe the Angels told him “don’t worry about the K’s, just swing hard”?? He is very valuable even if he hits .275, strikes out 200 times but hits 45 HR’s. His speed and fielding would make up for the loss and the bottom line is the Angels won this year. Even through they lost the crap shoot called the playoffs, they had a very good year.

Josh Godick
11 years ago
Reply to  Hurtlockertwo

Ask Ryan Howard how those numbers turn out

AC
11 years ago
Reply to  Josh Godick

I’m far from an expert, but it seems like there should be a huge difference between a player selling out for power intentionally, if they retain the physical tools to go back to previous production, and a player who simply doesn’t have the bat speed to sit back on a pitch and has to ‘cheat’ by swinging as hard as he can every time.

In other words, not every player who exhibits ‘old player’ results does so because he only has ‘old player’ skills left in the bag. The latter is far more damning.

Nope
11 years ago
Reply to  Josh Godick

Because Ryan Howard was once a speedy center fielder.

Chuck Bistrow
11 years ago
Reply to  Hurtlockertwo

What i think is interesting is that Trout to a large degree is the chosen one of the new baseball theology of WAR. This year, while he still has a high overall WAR,(negative on defense) he will be winning the MVP largely based on the same metrics we have used for the longest time, HR’s, RBI’s and a decent average. It is also interesting to note that while his OBP was down over 60 points, his SB were cut in half and his slugging percentage was virtually identical, he actually scored 6 more runs than in the exact same number of games played. How does this happen? Well it happens when the guy/s behind you have a knack for hitting with guys on base and driving in those “useless” RBI’s.

Carson Cyst-Stooly
11 years ago

Odds Trout puts up one more 8 win season in his career?

Spa City
11 years ago

99.7 to 1

Spa City
11 years ago
Reply to  Spa City

Sorry – quick edit. I assumed your question was “odds Trout puts up at least one more 8 (or 8+) win season.” If you meant “odds Trout puts up exactly one more 8 (or 8+) win season,” then the odds go to 0.3 to 1, as he is extremely likely to post several more such seasons. If your question was “odds Trout puts up one more season of exactly 8 wins,” then the odds go to 0.003 to 1. I am overthinking this. I’ll stick with 99.7 to 1.

Carson Cyst-Stooly
11 years ago
Reply to  Spa City

8+

Mike
11 years ago
Reply to  Spa City

That’s not how odds work. 99.7 to 1 means that a one dollar bet gets you 99.7 dollars, which I don’t think is what you mean…

AF
11 years ago
Reply to  Spa City

I assume you mean 1 to 99.7. I’ll take that bet.

Jason B
11 years ago
Reply to  AF

Either way, I think it was overshot quite a bit. I would say perhaps 1:3 to 1:4 (or 75-80% likely to occur).

Phillies113
11 years ago

Excellent analysis.

Jon L.Member since 2016
11 years ago

I think these changes in Trout’s performance are the result of intentional changes in his approach – pull the ball more, hit it in the air. If true, he was modestly successful in increasing his power output, albeit at some cost to contact and batting average. If he continues to adapt going forward, decline in the next few years will not be inexorable.

Hank G.
11 years ago
Reply to  Jon L.

If the changes are due to deliberate actions on Trout’s part (such as the ‘be more aggressive’ that was reported in spring training), he’d be well served by reversing them.

Spencer Silva
11 years ago
Reply to  Jon L.

I’m not sure he sold out for power as much as folks think. He’s the best low-ball hitter in baseball, but it wasn’t until 2014 that teams began aggressively pitching him up in the zone. Sullivan has written a few articles about it. Teams seem to be asking their pitchers — even their sinkerballers — to attack him high-and-tight, generating more whiffs. Not sure the power spike is related, but it stands to reason that mistakes with said approach often end up beyond the fence.

D4P
11 years ago

Not to mention the major declines in his defense and baserunning

jdbolickMember since 2016
11 years ago

Trout apparently has sold out the approach that worked for him in his first two seasons for power, power, power.

I don’t believe that this is a fair or accurate characterization judging by Trout’s heatmaps. If you compare his contact rate in 2014 with 2013, it has stayed extremely consistent for pitches in the middle, down, and those on the inside of the plate. Meanwhile he actually improved his contact rate on pitches away, both on the edge and just off the plate. The part that changed was a substantial drop in contact rate high in the strike zone, where various FanGraphs writers have detailed teams attacking Trout with fastballs. It’s still a real change with a very significant effect, but I think the evidence much more strongly supports the notion that he is being pitched differently rather than him having changed his approach.

Hurtlockertwo
11 years ago
Reply to  jdbolick

Agreed, maybe it takes the league 2-3 years to catch up with a true talent like Trout?? Next year will be the real test, how does Trout adjust??

jdbolickMember since 2016
11 years ago
Reply to  Hurtlockertwo

My suggestion would be to not offer at them unless he has to, as Trout’s swing percentage up in the zone stayed about the same despite the declining contact rate. He should force the umpire to call those high strikes and force the pitcher to keep hitting those spots.

Rogers Hornsby
11 years ago
Reply to  jdbolick

Get a good ball to hit.

chuckb
11 years ago
Reply to  jdbolick

This could certainly help to explain the increase in his popup rate.

Andy
11 years ago
Reply to  jdbolick

But analysis has shown that Trout can’t hit pitches up because of the way he swings, with his elbows bent and tucked into his chest, resulting in a bat angle to the ground that is much closer to vertical than for most other hitters. It’s what makes him so devastating on low balls, but also so helpless on higher pitches.

If this year’s performance did not result from intentional changes on his part, but rather because of the way he’s now being pitched, he will have to revamp his swing considerably. That may not be easy, and it’s possible it could make things worse, at least in the short term. Remember, his K problems were evident very early in the season, and he either didn’t attempt to change anything to improve the situation, or tried and was unsuccessful.

jdbolickMember since 2016
11 years ago
Reply to  Andy

I’d like to see this analysis you reference because that notion doesn’t make any sense to me.

TheUncool
11 years ago

Nice analysis. Thanks…

… although not sure it makes much sense to compare his pulled-grounder issue w/ Christ Davis’ though. Yes, Davis *might* have an advantage running from the leftside batter’s box, but he’s also pulling the ball right toward 1B/2B instead of SS/3B. Unless it’s hit hard enough to get pass the fielder, he has far less time to make it to 1B than Trout would on a pulled grounder. PLUS depending on their actual swings, Trout might get out of the batter’s box faster than Davis by enough of a margin as to remove any advantage Davis has as a lefty slugger.

Still, yeah, nobody’s saying Trout will ever be remotely as bad at beating out pulled grounders as Davis of course…

Thanks again for the analysis. Cheers!

chuckb
11 years ago
Reply to  TheUncool

Christ Davis?

I guess your opinion is that Davis deserves even greater accolades than Trout!

jdbolickMember since 2016
11 years ago
Reply to  chuckb

Will the Orioles advance far enough for a second coming?

celtic1888
11 years ago
Reply to  jdbolick

After his 25 Games in the Wilderness

ZenMadman
11 years ago
Reply to  chuckb

Or maybe he thinks he should be crucified for getting a PED suspension heading into the playoffs.

Anonymous
11 years ago
Reply to  TheUncool

The ‘left-handed’ advantage to first base disappears with anyone who isn’t a complete burner down the line:

http://www.hardballtimes.com/let-athletes-be-athletes-fast-hitters-dont-have-to-be-lefties/

cmg8462
11 years ago

With how great Trout is and how easily he changed his entire approach in the past offseason couldn’t he similarly modify/adjust to look more like his old self? Let’s say he reviews his season and realizes his sell-out for power made him vulnerable to certain pitches (high and in), couldn’t we see him closing that hole on the up and in heat? Couldn’t he focus on making more contact?

Older players fit into this mold because they have no other choice, they can’t do what they once could. Trout seems to have chose this path in order to improve.

I understand why this season was of concern, but I also think he’ll make adjustments to reduce his weaknesses.

TheUncool
11 years ago
Reply to  cmg8462

Maybe the Royals’ pitching-to-his-weakness in the ALDS will help him take more notice of it, especially since his team got swept by a team nobody expected to do anything in postseason (at least before Sept anyway).

Brooks
11 years ago
Reply to  TheUncool

Ironically the only hit Trout had in the series was on a pitch that is supposed to be Trout’s Achilles’ Heel: he hit a home run on a four-seam fastball, inside and above the belt.

vivalajeter
11 years ago

I wonder how much of this is MVP-based. He was clearly the best player in baseball the last two years, but didn’t get the hardware because a lot of his value was underappreciated. It seems petty, but maybe part of the reason he put on so much muscle and tried selling out for more power is so that his superficial MVP number will look better. It reminds me of the stories about Bonds’ early PED-use. He was a HOF player when he was lean, and the story goes that he started with PEDs because of jealousy towards Sosa/Big Mac. The main difference is that Bonds helped his team by transforming himself, while Trout doesn’t seem to be helping the Angels.

Some of this could be predicted before the season when he came into camp with so much added muscle. I, and a few others, posted before the season that his defense/baserunning is likely to suffer this year with the added weight. I didn’t predict the sharp increase in K’s though.

Jason B
11 years ago
Reply to  vivalajeter

“while Trout doesn’t seem to be helping the Angels.”

I think you probably meant “didn’t help quite as much as his HUGE contributions in the past two years”, but “didn’t help” is way incorrect. His 7.8 WAR made him easily the most helpful player on his team and likely the entire league.

vivalajeter
11 years ago
Reply to  Jason B

If you read the entire paragraph, rather than half of a sentence, and you realize we’re at fangraphs, then it should be pretty clear that I wasn’t suggesting that 2014 Trout wasn’t helping his team.

chuckb
11 years ago
Reply to  vivalajeter

What’s clear is that you were unclear. If you wanted to provide the impression that he wasn’t helping the Angels “as much” as in his 1st 2 seasons, your entire comment did not do that. We can accept that that’s what you meant, but you shouldn’t get petulant when someone suggests that your comment wasn’t as clear as you intended. It wasn’t.

Bason J
11 years ago
Reply to  vivalajeter

With a name like “vivajeter,” I don’t think you should expect the benefit of the doubt.

vivalajeter
11 years ago
Reply to  vivalajeter

This reminds me of a trip to McDonalds in college. After a friend ordered a couple burgers, the cashier said “Did you say two cheeseburgers or sue cheeseburgers?” My friend responded with “the one that makes sense”.

Even if you don’t think the wording is clear enough, only one interpretation makes sense. Realistically, would anybody think that 2014 Mike Trout isn’t a helpful player?

The title of the article is about Mike Trout changing his game, but not improving. The contents of the article are about the same thing. My post compared it to Bonds’ transformation. I’m not sure why the default interpretation is that Mike Trout isn’t helpful.

wallysb01
11 years ago
Reply to  vivalajeter

I’ve had a few disagreements with vivalajeter, but wow guys. This was perfectly clear.

You guys are behaving like a 9th grade english teacher while reading that disruptive kid in the back’s homework.

Costanza
11 years ago
Reply to  vivalajeter

@vivalajeter people interpret it that way because that is literally what you wrote.

“The main difference is that Bonds helped his team by transforming himself, while Trout doesn’t seem to be helping the Angels.”

versus:

“The main difference is that Bonds helped his team by transforming himself, while Trout’s __transformation__ doesn’t seem to be helping the Angels.”

Unthought_Known
11 years ago
Reply to  vivalajeter

Costanza, context counts. If you only look at one sentence and ignore the context, there will be a lot of times when you interpret something incorrectly. Given the proper context (the article itself, and the rest of the comment), it should be clear that nobody thinks Trout’s overall performance is hurting his team.

Jason B
11 years ago
Reply to  vivalajeter

Yep, we’re just responding to your mess of a sentence. If you want to be better understood, perhaps write more clearly?

Colonel Obvious
11 years ago
Reply to  vivalajeter

Come on, guys. What he meant was flat out obvious. I’m the authority on such matters.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
11 years ago
Reply to  vivalajeter

So, Costanza, what you’re saying is that you don’t yet read at a 12th grade level?

It wasn’t ambiguous. It wasn’t unclear.

If you didn’t understand what vivalajeter meant, you either skimmed over it, are bad at reading, or are stupid.

There’s no middle ground.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
11 years ago
Reply to  vivalajeter

wallysb01, they’re actually behaving like that disruptive kid in the back who didn’t pay attention during 9th grade English.

I really hope they’re trying to troll viva, because the only other explanation is that they’re just truly fucking terrible at reading English words.

ZenMadman
11 years ago
Reply to  Jason B

“The main difference is that Bonds helped his team by transforming himself, while Trout doesn’t seem to be helping the Angels [by transforming himself].” This is the only rational way to read the sentence. By continuing to insist otherwise, you’re insulting your own intelligence.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
11 years ago
Reply to  ZenMadman

Seriously. They teach that sentence construction in 10th grade.

Jason B
11 years ago
Reply to  ZenMadman

Nah, just reading what was typed.

Andy
11 years ago
Reply to  vivalajeter

What data are available on his time to first, though, don’t suggest much, if any, drop off in speed. It’s not clear to me me whether his greatly reduced SB total was due to an unwillingness to try, on his part or the Angels, or genuine belief he couldn’t be as successful as in the past. He was only CS twice, and once was actually a pickoff, though he was also caught once in the LDS.

Feeding the Abscess
11 years ago
Reply to  vivalajeter

He didn’t put on weight before this season. He put on weight before the 2013 season.

D
11 years ago

There’s been adjustments for Trout but also for the pitchers, who have pitched up much more this year where Trout has a “hole”. This seems to be a place to get punch outs. Maybe it’s simplistic, but does seeing more pitches up in the zone also lead to more pop ups and fly balls?

Trout’s young and has shown the acuity to make good adjustments quickly–I think we’ll see yet another distinguishable version of Mike Trout by 2016.

jdbolickMember since 2016
11 years ago
Reply to  D

Maybe it’s simplistic, but does seeing more pitches up in the zone also lead to more pop ups and fly balls?

Absolutely, yes, which is what actually happened rather than Blengino’s hypothesis about Trout changing his approach. Tony asked an interesting question, he just missed the evidence that would have led him to a different and more accurate conclusion.

Bill
11 years ago

I should be worth mentioning that Trout’s RE24 was the highest of his career, so when he did hit the ball he was making it count (which has a lot to do as well with the lineup placement). I also believe however that if he goes back to his original plan at the plate the power will develop naturally.

Bill
11 years ago
Reply to  Bill

Never mind, I lied, he had a higher RE24 last year.

Spa City
11 years ago

It is fascinating that even when Mike Trout has a noticeable across-the-board decline in his performance, he is still the best position player in baseball. Even Mickey Mantle had years of 6 to 8 WAR between his 10+ WAR seasons.

ira haron
11 years ago

typo alert: Ksershaw
for some unholy reason, i see every typo everywhere. here, i stopped at 1.

irrespective of that, i really like and admire your site. drop-down often.

i’ve been doing MLB, NFL, various sports stat-ups (my word) since my father took me to see Roger Maris hit a game-winning (2-1) homer off Yankee-killer, Frank Lary in 19-freakin-62.

geez. am i that old?

Carson Cyst-Stooly
11 years ago
Reply to  ira haron

Takes issue with typos, doesn’t use capital letters to start sentences.

Swfcdan
11 years ago

God, stop this Mike Trout infatuation please!

Jason B
11 years ago
Reply to  Swfcdan

Yes, stop talking about generational talents like they’re special! There is a startling dearth of articles on Garrett Jones, DJ LaMahieu, Hector Noesi, and Eric Stults.

Bason J
11 years ago
Reply to  Jason B

More likely, a startling dearth of glowingly positive articles on [insert Royals/Orioles/Cardinals/Braves/etc.] here.

Luke
11 years ago

How is more fly balls and fewer ground balls a bad thing for Trout? That’s a bad thing for a speedster with weak fly ball distance, like Ben Revere, but it seems like an obvious good thing for Trout. His career wRC+ on ground balls is 98, but it’s a whopping 260 on fly balls.

chuckb
11 years ago
Reply to  Luke

My guess is that, when his power begins to leave him, he’ll turn in to Colby Rasmus with better hair.

Luke
11 years ago
Reply to  chuckb

Are we anywhere near Trout losing his power? He is probably going to gain more before he starts losing any. We’re talking about a guy who is 23 years old, after all.

Losing his speed will probably happen first, and that will hurt his ground ball numbers.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
11 years ago
Reply to  Luke

Because it’s resulted in a lower production.

Gabriel
11 years ago

I don’t think the near concluding sentence of this piece really jibes with your point throughout, “2014 marked his first large step to a corner outfielder skill set.”

What does his bat have to do with his defensive skill set? Had the article been about his defensive skill and argued that he’s on a downward trend in that way, this statement would make sense. As it is, it is nonsensical: you are arguing that he’s batting worse overall and usually we expect corner outfielders to provide more offensive value than centerfielders, since their defense is worse.

So in fact, by hitting worse, he’s actually showing more of a centerfielder skillset (more relative value from glove vs bat) than in the past.

Mike Green
11 years ago

I guess there are a couple of points in Trout’s favour. The Mick led the strikeouts at age 22 and cut them back significantly over the next three three years. There is a suggestion that this might be harder for Trout because he doesn’t switch-hit. Trout has had a slight reverse platoon split over his career and has struck out almost exactly as often vs. RHPs as vs. LHPs (22.2% of PAs vs. RH; 22.4% vs. LH).

The other (and more important) point is that Trout is healthier.

eno's revenge
11 years ago

In 1951, Mickey Mantle’s rookie season, Joe DiMaggio was very jealous of the rookie boy wonder and failed to tell him about hidden sprinkler heads in the outfield. Mantle stepped on one, hurting his knee for the first time. This led to career-long knee injuries and, along with Mantle’s other self-injurious behavior, led to an amazing career tinged with bittersweet what-ifs.

I hope Trout’s decision (was it his? did the team force it on him after his new contract?) to radically change his approach doesn’t lead to his career following the same what-if track.

Eric Hainline
11 years ago

Can someone explain to me why the various outcomes in the “Plate Appearance Outcome Frequency” chart (the top chart) total up to values way beyond 100%?

vivalajeter
11 years ago
Reply to  Eric Hainline

The bottom four parts add up to 100%, because they’re based on balls in play. The top two parts (K, BB) are based on total plate appearances.

Eric Hainline
11 years ago
Reply to  vivalajeter

Thanks, but if the chart is presented as a “plate appearance outcome frequency”, why wouldn’t all plate appearance outcomes total 100%?

I do see that the presentation of the chart includes “…and production by BIP type…”, but the chart itself doesn’t present that way. Perhaps I am being unintentionally pedantic here. I am confused by a lack of any visual clue in the chart that would separate balls in play into their own group of outcomes.

Captain Tenneal
11 years ago
Reply to  Eric Hainline

I don’t know how often you look up baseball stats (especially on FG), but that is just the common presentation for BIP types, in my experience. Fly ball, line drive, pop, and ground ball rates are generally per 100 balls in play, while K and BB are per 100 plate appearances. There’s no indication in the chart; it’s just something you have to know.

Eric Hainline
11 years ago
Reply to  Eric Hainline

Check. Thx.

Now I have yet another thing to add to my to-do list when planet earth finally tabs me King for a day.

KCDaveInLA
11 years ago

I’ve heard a lot of comments on Trout being a great low-ball hitter, and the eyeball test frequently showed him crushing a lot of breaking balls (which kill most rookie/young hitters). He probably sees a lot more high in the zone fastballs now, and the decrease in ground-ball % would seem to confirm that. With his new contract, Trout has to be pressing more in the power department, so he’s striking out a lot not seeing “his” pitches. Besides that, shifting to centerfield full time has definitely decreased his overall value, but he’s still Mike Trout.

Andy
11 years ago
Reply to  KCDaveInLA

Why has playing CF all the time decreased his value? In technical terms, it has increased his value. He gets more positional runs there, and his team gets the benefit of having their best hitter in a position which usually is not played by the team’s best hitter.

I believe he also played CF full time in 2012, and it certainly didn’t hurt his value then.

obsessivegiantscompulsive
11 years ago

Nice article, it would be nice to follow up with another one given the comments about how pitchers have been pitching to him.

I’m not sure why you mention platoon advantage for Mantle and not Trout. In fact, Trout has hit much better against RHP than LHP even though he is RHH. And he has done it each full season he has played, each year RHP>LHP for OPS. While it is true in general that there is platoon advantage, if you are going to look at one specific player, you should check to see if there actually is one. He hits RHP better, for whatever reasons.

Costanza
11 years ago

I had to double check b/c I mistrusted your use of OPS. But you’re right — career 169wRC+ versus righties, 154 versus lefties, nearly 1800 total PA.

We’re still under 500 PA against lefties, however, so I would still regress that platoon split about 50% to league average.

Josh B
11 years ago

Oh come on, what happened to the Babe Ruth comps from this pre-season? Did you guys actually take a second to look at Ruth’s stats or something?

Max G
11 years ago

Trout saw 2% more cutters and 2% less change-ups in 2014 vs. 2013. Has anyone explored to what degree this affected his performance?

In an unrelated event, please keep NotGraphs.

Brooks
11 years ago

According to Brooks Baseball, in 2014 Trout saw 1,003 pitches in counts involving two strikes. In contrast, in 2012 and 2013, Trout saw respectively only 728 and 799 pitches in counts involving two strikes. Like every hitter, Trout struggles in two-strike counts. Unlike most hitters, Trout hits like Ted Williams in 1941 in counts with less than two strikes.

Considering the number of pitches Trout saw with two strikes in 2014, his strikeout rate was basically identical to his strikeout rate in 2012. However, Trout hit 15 homers in 2014 with two stikes, while he hit only 12 home runs combined in 2012 and 2013 with two strikes.

In other words, the 2014 Trout became a substantially more productive hitter with two strikes. But he found himself in far too many two-strike counts, and thus his overall K rate increased and his BA and OBP decreased.

If Trout can mitigate the number of two-strike counts to his 2012 and 2013 totals, then baseball will see the .320 hitter he was in 2012 and 2013 but with substantially more homers. And an obvious way to avoid two-strike counts is to swing at more first pitches.

In 2014 Trout swung at only 8 of the 70 first-pitches that were located in his wheelhouse: in the zone, down, and middle of the plate or in. On those pitches, Trout hit .464 and slugged .988. So Trout was taking far too many pitches that he routinely kills – and perhaps the best pitch he would see in the at bat. Amazingly, his swing percentage on these first pitches is virtually identical to his swing percentage on all first pitches, regardless of location. This gives the impression that Trout simply decides to take the first pitch in the vast majority of his at bats as a matter of course, instead of sitting on a particular pitch in a particular location and taking a hack.

I think Trout just needs to find a better balance between the virtue of his patient approach at the plate and being aggressive early in the count when he sees pitches that are in his wheelhouse. And, obviously, lay off the high fastballs out of the strike zone.

Eric Hainline
11 years ago
Reply to  Brooks

The first thing Trout needs to do is reduce the quantity of 0-1 counts. That, alone will greatly reduce the number of 2-strike counts he sees.

Andy
11 years ago
Reply to  Brooks

This has been my impression, just from the small sample size of times I’ve watched him bat. He definitely has one of the lowest swing rates on first pitches, that’s documented, and I think pitchers have caught on to this, throwing him low balls on the first pitch. You can’t throw him high in the zone all the time, no matter how much he struggles there; if he knows it’s coming there he will deal with it better. So pitchers throw the low ball on the first pitch, when they have good reason to think he will take it.

Feeding the Abscess
11 years ago
Reply to  Brooks

I felt alone in the wilderness pointing this out all season, and I will smugly appropriate your thumbs up total and add it to my imaginary total.

Paul
11 years ago

You really gave Trout 80-grade raw power in Low A? I can’t recall any other scouting report giving him anywhere close to that. I do believe you, but it would be awesome to see a scouting card or something if you have it.

pft
11 years ago

I would love to see a study on how players perform following signing a long extension or long deal. They seem to accelerate decline in older players and retard development in younger players, but perhaps I am imagining it.

Brooks
11 years ago
Reply to  pft

Before the start of the 2004 season, Albert Pujols signed a 7-year, $100 million extension with the Cardinals, with a team option for an eighth year. The contract took up all of Pujols’s three arbitration-eligible years plus five free-agency eligible years.

The man played fairly well after signing that contract.

pdf
11 years ago
Reply to  pft

Yes, you are imagining it.

Daniel
11 years ago

What? Trout just had 36 HR and 111 RBI. Best. Season. Ever.

Mike
11 years ago
Reply to  Daniel

Um no.

He dropped 35 points in average and right around 55 in OBP due mostly to the 50 additional K’s. The extra K’s cost him about 20 hits for the season and as a result he was a .287 hitter instead of the .320 hitter that he was. Add to that half the amount of steals.

Sure, he had more home runs but his slugging percentage was the same. Same number of doubles and triples.

He needs to drop some a few lbs. He doesn’t need to be built like a linebacker to hit 30 home runs. That doesn’t help him get around on high fastballs. Sure, his swing is that of a low ball hitter but he can improve on the high pitches by increasing his bat speed by not being so bulky and also not chasing balls out of the zone.

He doesn’t need to try to hit home runs. Go back to the guy who used the whole field and the home runs will come naturally. That and swinging at first strike meatballs that he should crush should help get him back to 2012-2013 level of all time greatness….and beyond with more maturity.

Finally, stop letting Prince Albert determine when he tries to steal a base.

manthestan
11 years ago

When I commented on the Angels site a couple of times about Mike’s high K rate, everybody came unglued, saying things like: MVP, and who cares, and other inanities. When Trout was 20, he set a new record with K’s at 136. At 21, new record at 131. At 22, this year at 184.The age is when the season starts, not if you have a b-day during the season, and I am sure that the MVP, if he gets it, will look good on the mantel while he watches the Series from his easy chair.
I also remarked about how he fanned to end the inning a lot, as he did to END two recent games. You simply cannot have the K king hitting second, or anyone else who fans a lot. You need a good contact hitter in there and, if the Angels don’t have one, go get one.
Maybe no-one else has noticed, but, Albert was only 5 ribbies behind Trout. I think that Albert would have led the league in ribbies if there had been more of a certain player on base more. AP would have gotten a lot more than 111, which Trout got, and still was only 5 behind.
Also, if Trout hits 4th or 5th, I believe that he would get many more ribbies with contact hitters in front of him, and that includes leaving AP in the 3rd spot.

Jason
11 years ago

I would like to see how many at bats Trout took a strike before swinging and how many times he took two strikes before swinging. Just from watching games it felt like he took WAY too many pitches this year and was ALWAYS behind in the count. Not that you want to swing at everything, but I think pitchers caught on were given way too many free strikes. It’s hard enough to hit an MLB pitcher when you’ve got three swings/at bat, but when you cut that down to one or two it gets that much harder.