The Orioles Rotation Is Terrible

On May 10th, Jeff wrote a post here called “Well, the Orioles Are Doing it Again“, recognizing that the Orioles were once again winning a bunch of games despite a fairly pedestrian BaseRuns record. At the time, the Orioles were 22-10, outpacing their BaseRuns expected record of 16-16, as they had clutched their way to the best record in baseball.

A little over a month later, the Orioles are 31-31. They’ve gone 9-21 in their last 30 games, and they’re now a half-game out of last place in the AL East. But this isn’t a case where their reliance on winning close games has come back to bite them, with the one-run bounces going against them. They are still outpacing their BaseRuns expected win total by six games. They’ve won 9 of their last 30 games because they’ve played like a team that should have only won 9 of their last 30 games. And they’ve played that poorly because their starting pitching is awful.

In their first 33 games of the season, when the Orioles raced out to baseball’s best record, their rotation produced above-average results; their 4.06 ERA (12th) and .313 wOBA allowed (10th) were both a bit better than the middle of the pack teams, especially once you adjust for their park and league. The bullpen and the offense are the strengths of the team, and when they get acceptable starting pitching, everything works pretty well.

Since May 10th, however, when Jeff published his article, the Orioles rotation has posted a 6.70 ERA (29th) and a .401 wOBA allowed (30th). Yes, the average hitter has put up a .325/.395/.552 line against the Orioles starters over their last 30 games. That is like if every batter you faced was Miguel Sano for a month. I don’t care how good your bullpen is; starting pitching like that just can’t be overcome.

Of course, the Orioles rotation isn’t this bad. During this stretch, they’ve allowed a league-worst .353 BABIP and a third-worst 18% HR/FB rate, neither of which will last. But their early season decency was built on holding down BABIP (.269 through May 9th), and it’s pretty clear that the Orioles shouldn’t count on limiting authoritative contact as a strategy to make up for too many walks and not enough strikeouts.

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Because this is something pretty much the entire staff struggles with. Among the 151 starters who have thrown at least 30 innings in the rotation, here is where the Orioles five primary starters rank in K%-BB%.

Orioles SPs, K%-BB% Ranks
Player K%-BB% Rank
Dylan Bundy 11.0% 84th
Wade Miley 7.5% 125th
Ubaldo Jimenez 4.3% 140th
Kevin Gausman 3.9% 144th
Chris Tillman 1.3% 150th

Yuck. The AL average K%-BB% for a starting pitcher is 12.2%, a mark that no member of the Orioles rotation is living up to. Bundy is close to that average, and combined with batted-ball tendencies that make him look like he might be a guy who can legitimately avoid hard contact, he’s a perfectly decent big league starter, though he won’t be any kind of ace until he can figure out how to get lefties out more effectively.

But after that, it’s all ugly. Wade Miley struck out 38 batters in April and pitched like a quality starter, but he’s struck out just 20 batters since, reverting back to the barely-serviceable back-end starter that he’s looked like the last few years. Ubaldo Jimenez’s never-ending Jekyll-and-Hyde routine has landed on Hyde this year, and he’s already been bounced from the rotation.

But really, the root of the team’s rotation problems lie with Tillman and Gausman. Last year, these guys were their best two starters, combining for +5.4 WAR by FIP or +7.8 WAR by runs allowed. So far, the pair is at -0.2 WAR by FIP and -1.2 WAR by runs allowed. When your top two starters hand you below-replacement-level performances, it is hard to keep winning.

So what’s wrong with these guys? Tillman’s issue is easy to identify. He began the year on the DL due to a sore right shoulder, the same issue that forced him to the DL at the end of last year. And it’s pretty obvious that he’s still not healthy.

Tillman has sat 92-93 for the last few years, and ran it up to 97-98 when he needed to. This year, he’s sitting 90-91, and the hardest pitch he’s thrown this year has been 94. He’s also posting a career low 40% Zone%, down from 49% last year, so whether he just doesn’t have command because his shoulder still hurts or because he’s not comfortable challenging hitters with diminished stuff, Tillman is trying to pitch behind in the count with below-average velocity. That doesn’t work very well, obviously.

As Jeff pointed out in his post about Tillman last week, there’s also been an arm slot change, which often follows shoulder problems when pitchers try to compensate. Given that we aren’t doctors and don’t have access to the Orioles’ training room, we can’t say for certain that Tillman is hurt, but he sure looks hurt. Since Jeff posted his piece on Tillman’s issues, he’s made two more starts, giving up 14 runs in 7 1/3 innings. If the Orioles had any alternatives, I’d imagine Tillman would already be back on the DL. He probably should be anyway, at least to try to give him a chance to work out whatever issues he’s facing on a rehab stint.

Gausman, though, is more complicated. He’s 26, coming of the best season of his career, and doesn’t have any obvious health issues. His velocity is fine, right in line with what he did last year. He’s throwing the same rate of pitches in the zone as he always has, and batters are actually making less contact on swings in the strike zone than they did against him last year. The stuff seems fine.

But Gausman’s splitter — his bread-and-butter pitch — has taken a huge step back this year. Hitters are taking more of his splitters out of the zone for balls, swinging at it more often when it’s in the strike zone, and making significantly better contact against his splitter when they put the bat on the ball.

Last year, opposing hitters hit .203/.250/.316 against his splitter, good for a 65 wRC+. This year? .281/.313/.500, with a 128 wRC+. That’s still lower than batters are hitting against either his fastball or his slider, but the splitter is generally thrown in two-strike situations where you can get hitters to expand the zone and take less authoritative swings; giving up a 128 wRC+ on your put-away pitch is downright terrible.

Whether it’s just command or predictability, Gausman needs to figure out how to fix his fastball/splitter combination. His breaking balls have always been mediocre-to-bad, but the fastball/split combo can play off each other and give him swings and misses at the top and bottom of the zone. Right now, he’s not getting whiffs on either pitch, and batters are crushing both when he misses in the zone.

Gausman’s issues seem more fixable, and he’s talented enough that the Orioles can remain optimistic that he can improve as the year goes on. But they also don’t really have any other choice, because they probably already need to replace Tillman (at least on a short-term basis until he fixes what ails him), and they don’t really have enough high-level pitching depth to swap out another starter, much less two.

And none of this even accounts for what they might have to do with Dylan Bundy in the second half. Bundy threw 110 innings last year, the most of his career. He’s already at 83 innings this year, and if he made every start the rest of the year, he’d be on track to throw roughly 120 more. While workload increases aren’t a definitive science yet, I can’t imagine anyone thinks it’s a good idea to take a guy with Bundy’s history of arm problems and jump him from 110 to over 200 innings in a year. Whether because of actual injury or just workload maintenance, Bundy is almost certainly going to need to skip some starts.

So, yeah, the Orioles have a real problem. This isn’t the worst rotation in baseball, but none of the other teams with starting pitching this poor have a short-term focus. The Orioles, though, are trying to win before Manny Machado hits free agency. They have a $165 million payroll, most of it going to older players on the downside of their career. But they have the rotation of a rebuilder or an also-ran, and bullpen magic doesn’t help you much when you’re down 10-0 in the third inning.

On the bright side, the Orioles can say they’re at .500 despite a bunch of their best players struggling, and look forward to what the team could do in the second half if Machado, Gausman, Tillman, and Britton get healthy and perform at expected levels. But to keep this team in contention, the Orioles are going to need their starting pitchers to figure things out in a hurry. And then they’re probably going to need to trade for another arm or three in July. Because right now, it’s not easy to see how this group of starters is going to lead the Orioles back to the postseason.





Dave is the Managing Editor of FanGraphs.

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pedeysRSox
9 years ago

I would try to see how much the Padres want for Trevor Cahill (once he has proven he is healthy)

j6takish
9 years ago

“the Orioles were once again winning a bunch of games despite a fairly pedestrian BaseRuns record. At the time, the Orioles were 22-10, outpacing their BaseRuns expected record of 16-16, as they had clutched their way to the best record in baseball.
A little over a month later, the Orioles are 31-31”

Dave rubs his hands together, deviously…

backward galaxy
9 years ago

This was a very informative read. Great article.

wobatusMember since 2024
9 years ago

But with young arms like Daniel Cabrera, Brandon Erbe, Garrett Olson and Adam Loewen, brighter days are ahead.

CamdenWarehouseMember since 2025
9 years ago
Reply to  wobatus

Josh Towers
John Stephens
Matt Hobgood
Brian Matusz
Jake Arrieta

the cavalry is on the way.

*big sigh*

wobatusMember since 2024
9 years ago

I was prepared to go back to Jimmy Haynes and Rocky Coppinger.

CamdenWarehouseMember since 2025
9 years ago
Reply to  wobatus

Rocky was the first prospect I was conscious of. I remember someone (media, family, random dude someplace?) saying he was as good as Roger Clemens.

D0nc0smic
9 years ago

For it was Ben McDonald, Who put up 20 WAR so he was a good pitcher, but as this site has said recently, Strasburg is already there, with I assume more years to play.

bookbookMember since 2024
9 years ago
Reply to  wobatus

Pete Harnisch and Curt Schilling?

bpd
9 years ago
Reply to  bookbook

Yup.

Jason BMember since 2017
9 years ago

File under “TINSTAAPP.”

Then again almost any warm body > Wade Miley, Ubaldo, and this severely diminished version of Chris Tillman…

E L
9 years ago

Two of those guys have 2016 World Series rings.

Bret
9 years ago
Reply to  E L

And one of them had the following stats for his entire Cubs tenure: 3.0 IP, 6 ER, 2.667 WHIP, 17.81 FIP.

snowybeard
9 years ago

To that list you can add these arms that were traded away: Eduardo Rodriguez; Zach Davies; Josh Hader. Two guys already in their team’s rotations and the last one probably a good bullpen arm.

bpd
9 years ago
Reply to  wobatus

Heh.

James.Behan
9 years ago

Do you really think the Orioles will trade for a starting pitcher if they find themselves in contention mid-July? I kind of imagine them dreaming on a Wild Card spot rather than becoming sellers this year but they don’t seem like the kind of front office that makes big trades for arms. They’ve obviously convinced themselves they can settle for Wade Miley and Ubaldo Jimenez rather than push for a Sale, Quintana, etc.

TADontAsk
9 years ago
Reply to  James.Behan

I don’t know if they’re convinced they can get away with lower tier pitching. I’m sure they’d have loved to add a pitcher of Sale or Quintana caliber, but with their farm system all they can afford are the Miley, Bud Norris and Scott Feldman types in trades.

James.Behan
9 years ago
Reply to  TADontAsk

Well, in the last two years they’ve managed to re-sign both Chris Davis and Mark Trumbo. I guess you can never have too much power but these are the same years (2016 and 2017 respectively) when any number of ace-caliber pitchers became FAs; David Price, Zack Greinke, Johnny Cueto. This is simply a matter of where they want to spend their money and it seems therefore what they value more.

I think there’s a reason that teams like the Cubs (who aggressively sought and signed Lester) and the Nationals (who did the same with Scherzer) have had more success. Obviously this is a very simplified comparison but heading into the post-season with Chris Tillman as your ace is a problem.

On the other hand, if Bundy and Gausman perform like many project them to the Orioles have less of a problem. It just seems like the rest of even the AL East understands the value of starting pitching and the Orioles always somehow overlook it.

John Autin
9 years ago
Reply to  James.Behan

It’s all a crapshoot. For the perils of building around starting pitchers, see “Mets, 2017.”

James.Behan
9 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Well, the Mets went to the World Series two years ago with pretty much that exact splendid rotation and very well might have won on the back of Matt Harvey. Since then they’ve handled the health of their pitchers pretty poorly, including Harvey and Syndergaard this year.

It’s not all a crapshoot. What’s often a crapshoot is the health of pitchers. But in the case of the Orioles they haven’t even acquired the kind of pitchers that when healthy will take you to the World Series.

tramps like us
9 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Hindsight’s 20/20, isn’t it?

James.Behan
9 years ago
Reply to  tramps like us

It’s not really hindsight. This has been the philosophy of the Orioles front office for years. Consider this; they have not had a starting pitcher finish with a WAR above 3.0 since 2007 (when it was Erik Bedard). Granted, the issue of health regarding starting pitchers makes this more difficult than it may sound, but going over 10 years as a franchise in this funk signifies a few things:

1. As I pointed out in my original post they seem to refuse the idea of signing a FA ace or trading for one. If they are in the WC race near the end of July this year trying to acquire a top notch starting pitcher would not only bring the biggest benefit for them rest of season but into the playoff (and especially a WC where you only start 1 pitcher).

2. As has been noted elsewhere the Orioles seem to struggle in developing their own in-house starting pitchers. The biggest example in recent years of course being Jake Arrieta who even complained about his development with the Orioles organization as much as a ballplayer will complain publicly. The next biggest example (and I hope I’m wrong) might well be Kevin Gausman who showed tremendous promise last year in 180 innings (with that 3.0 WAR benchmark I referenced earlier), but who has just 0.1 WAR over 70 innings so far this year.

3. If you know as an organization (and you should after 10 years) that you struggle to develop your own starting pitchers you should make it a priority to sign good free agent pitchers and yet they seem to have done the exact opposite.

References:
http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=sta&lg=all&qual=70&type=8&season=2017&month=0&season1=2007&ind=1&team=2&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baltimore-sports-blog/bal-jake-arrieta-had-tremendous-struggle-with-orioles-was-in-constant-tug-of-war-20160330-story.html

bpd
9 years ago
Reply to  James.Behan

Angelos for years has shown he’s not comfortable with market value on pitchers. Theyhave always offered less years then other teams.

snowybeard
9 years ago
Reply to  James.Behan

Well, at least Rick Peterson is gone. He’s the guy who believed everybody should have the same mechanics.
I would’ve loved to see them keep Dom Chiti (former bullpen coach); the pitchers raved about how much he helped them. But Duquette refused to answer his calls about his status, so he bolted for Atlanta.

Johnston
9 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

Could not agree more.

Joshua Miller
9 years ago
Reply to  James.Behan

I could very well be wrong but I wouldn’t be surprised if top notch free agent pitchers simply refuse to sign with Baltimore, similar to Colorado. Let’s face it, no starting pitcher has had sustained success there since Mussina left.

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=sta&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2017&month=0&season1=2001&ind=0&team=2&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0

James.Behan
9 years ago
Reply to  Joshua Miller

I obviously have no access as to whether FA pitchers refuse to sign with the Orioles or the Orioles simply don’t make them offers. However, it seems silly to compare the pitching environment of Colorado with the pitching past of the Orioles. Is it the chicken or the egg? Have the Orioles not had good pitching because pitchers won’t sign with them or have they not had good pitching because they don’t prioritize it either in trades or in spending their money?

Joining a team in the AL East is obviously a challenge for a starting pitcher but the rest of the division seems more than able (and more than willing) in acquiring good starting pitchers. The Orioles have done some things that should actually entice FA starters: 1. They have had a strong bullpen the last few years, 2. They have been in contention and reached the post-season three of the last five years despite having a horrendous rotation.

Given all of this I find it hard to believe that FA pitchers would simply refuse signing in Baltimore. I think it’s much more likely that the Orioles front office simply avoids these players. I thought ace pitchers might refuse to sign with Arizona as it’s the second best hitter’s park but Zack Greinke obviously found his price.

All this being said I’m not sure signing 30 year old or older pitchers to 6 year deals is the smartest baseball decision. But it has so far worked out nicely in the case of Jon Lester, Max Scherzer and maybe this year with Greinke.

D0nc0smic
9 years ago
Reply to  James.Behan

Agreed, OPACY is a bandbox, but compared to Fenway or Yankee stadium.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  James.Behan

Duquette’s MO is to send away a mid-level or lower prospect to plug a hole with a rental at the deadline, and repeat as necessary. It doesn’t seem like it usually works out.

snowybeard
9 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

To the contrary: it’s one reason the Orioles don’t have any arms in the system to bail them out now that Tillman is obviously hurt and Gausman is still struggling to find his third pitch.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
9 years ago

I don’t know, their hitting isn’t so great either. Manny Machado, Adam Jones, and Mark Trumbo have been below-average hitters, and Chris Davis is only slightly above-average. JJ Hardy has completely lost it. And the team already punted outfield defense, so it’s not like they’re winning with great fielding either.

So yeah, the rotation was expected to be bad and it is horrible instead but they were planning on winning with offense that they don’t have. It’s just not a good team, and they play in a tough division.

Johnston
9 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Tl;dr – “They suck.”

snowybeard
9 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

That pretty much sums it up. I think it’s time to clean house but I’m not sure that Angelos understands that this is the best course for the team.

NicklePickersMember since 2016
9 years ago

Great (if sad) analysis. Wondering if you think the new pitching coach has been part of the problem or just a bystander to it. Thanks!

slim_scsi
9 years ago
Reply to  NicklePickers

Polishing turds is a difficult endeavor.

southie
9 years ago

As terrible as the new site layout? That is definition of terrible!

DoubleJ
9 years ago
Reply to  southie

Old Man Hates New Thing

Jason BMember since 2017
9 years ago
Reply to  DoubleJ

…proceeds to yell at cloud, reminisce about the 40s, and do the Charleston.

Johnston
9 years ago
Reply to  DoubleJ

Many of us totally hate the new site layout. It’s just awful.

bpd
9 years ago
Reply to  Johnston

I think it’s clearly worse. At least on mobile.

snowybeard
9 years ago
Reply to  Johnston

I missed this article when it was first posted in part because of the new site layout.

mvalcq
9 years ago

The Orioles pitchers have been terrible, mostly due to the issues described in this piece. Another minor factor that wasn’t covered could be the change in primary catchers. Reading this made me think about the FG article last week talking about improvements experienced by the Diamondbacks’ starting pitchers. I know Wieters pitch framing isn’t good but is Castillo’s framing and pitch selection a downgrade from him?

sadtromboneMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  mvalcq

Castillo is considered a terrible framer. If the metrics underrate Wieters in some way but not Castillo then that would be a factor.

JDX
9 years ago

“Wow, look how good those pitchers are!!” -A Reds pitcher, probably

rhswanzey
9 years ago

Sounds like a team that would probably be pretty happy to still have Miguel Gonzalez around, haha

slim_scsi
9 years ago
Reply to  rhswanzey

and Wei-Yin Chen or Scott Feldman.

MoonrakerMember since 2025
9 years ago

“The Orioles Rotation is Terrible”

This headline is perennially appropriate.

Johnston
9 years ago
Reply to  Moonraker

It’s right up there with “Dodger Rotation Battles Injuries.”

slim_scsi
9 years ago

Dan Duquette fails to instill much confidence in obtaining quality pitching (for many of us Os fans). Personally, I’m over Dan, tired of his methods. Instead of focusing on replacing the GM, the local radio stations and fans are calling for Buck to move on or into the front office. Buck’s a terrific manager, in his 60s not his 70s, and is doing the best he can with a mediocre pitching staff and strikeout-heavy lineup. The next person to mention firing Buck to me in real life is likely getting a forearm shiv to the face, it’s ridiculous. Dan Duquette needs to go like he wanted to the offseason before last. Let Toronto have him as their top executive/VP, please. Bum.

James.Behan
9 years ago
Reply to  slim_scsi

He is a bum, I completely agree. Buck is a pretty proven manager. With Duquette he managed the Red Sox for 8 years and they made the post-season 3 times and finally won two years after he left. Maybe when he leaves the Orioles they can win.

willl
9 years ago
Reply to  slim_scsi

There’s only one constant with the Orioles woes over the past 25 years, and that person isn’t Duquette. Unfortunately, you can’t fire that guy…

slim_scsi
9 years ago
Reply to  willl

There’s truth in that; however, look at what the Rockies are doing with young rookie pitching groomed in their farm system. They’re probably the only organization with as bad of a starting rotation track record as the Orioles in the 21st century. Both have hitter parks, obviously, but the Rockies are finally doing it right — groundball pitchers with great stuff. The Os can, too, it’s not a curse if you don’t believe. Duquette is trash.

HOFConnect
9 years ago

Buddy needs relief pitching which was not mentioned if it’s really that bad but the hitting lineups is worth a good look many nights. http://dfsfreereport.com/get-free-access

Johnston
9 years ago

“They’ve won 9 of their last 30 games because they’ve played like a team that should have only won 9 of their last 30 games.”

Speak the plain truth…

3runhomer
9 years ago

But they have Zach Davies, Ariel Miranda and E Rodriguez in reserve, right?

(Duquette should never be allowed to trade away pitching prospects)

McPontiffMember since 2026
9 years ago
Reply to  3runhomer

UGH… was just lamenting these facts over the disastrous weekend.
DD’s biggest transgressions by far, and I’m usually on his side!

But when you boil it down like that, it’s unforgivable.

willl
9 years ago
Reply to  3runhomer

But Duquette set them free! Their careers would have failed if they stayed in the Baltimore system like literally every other pitching prospect since 1991 (post-Mussina). He was doing them a favor by giving them the Arrieta treatment.

Paul22
9 years ago

They might also want to look at their pitching coach and scouting. I was amazed at some of the pitch selection and locations they threw to the Yankee hitters this past series (all season really) Its like they were pitching to the Yankee hitters strengths and not their weakness. Also, at times the hitters seemed to know what was coming, due to predictable sequences, tipping of pitches or stealing signs in the Yankees home park I cant say.

In any event the Orioles should seriously consider a rebuild now and move Machado and Britton if the SP does not turn it around in the next month