The Phillies Demonstrate Their Potent Depth

Phillies third baseman Maikel Franco has been with the Phillies since signing as an international free agent in 2010, and since he made his major league debut in 2014, the Phillies haven’t had a winning season. Before this season, he had only 59 career plate appearances batting eighth in the order. During the Phillies’ rebuild, Franco was a middle-of-the-order bat, despite never truly evolving into one. Of his career 2,115 plate appearances, over half of them (1,068) came in either the No. 3 or No. 4 hole.

On Thursday, Franco batted eighth, not because of any personal struggles on his part, but because of the Phillies’ depth up and down their lineup. In the sixth inning, in a 3-2 count (and on the seventh pitch of the at-bat), Franco turned on a Shane Carle fastball and drove a three-run home run into the left field seats. With one swing of the bat, the Phillies’ 3-1 lead became 6-1, with this at-bat serving as the icing on the cake in the Phillies’ eventual 10-4 win.

“Our eight-hole guy hit a three-run homer,” Phillies outfielder Andrew McCutchen told MLB.com. “It just shows you how deep the lineup is. Franco, he’s not an eight-hole hitter. Not the typical one. It just shows you what we can do, one through eight. Yeah, we can do it on a daily basis. It’s not going to be one or two guys that’s picking the team up, we’re going to picking each other up because we have that type of lineup to do it.”

Why did this one at-bat in this one Opening Day game pique my interest? It’s because this at-bat might foreshadow one of the key themes of the 2019 Phillies season: depth.

Adding Bryce Harper, McCutchen, J.T. Realmuto, and Jean Segura in one offseason certainly increased the Phillies’ offensive capabilities, no doubt. But what adding those players also does is make the other players in the lineup better. Players like Franco, Cesar Hernandez, Odubel Herrera and Rhys Hoskins may also benefit from seeing more fastballs in the zone.

Need more proof? Consider the seventh inning. The Braves intentionally walked Harper to load the bases for Hoskins. On a 1-0 pitch, he got a fastball and hit the first grand slam of his career.

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And, sure, it’s been one game, and that’s the smallest of sample sizes. But, on Thursday, nine of the Phillies’ 10 runs were driven in by players who were also on the team in 2018.

This won’t always be the case. Harper will carry his share of the load, as will McCutchen (who, I should mention, led off the game with a homer), Realmuto and Segura. But, is it not just a little bit symbolic that the Phillies’ first game officially out of the rebuild was buttressed by players who carried over from it?

In 2018, the Phillies scored 10-plus runs on nine separate occasions. This figure tied for 20th in the major leagues. (For what it’s worth, the Red Sox led all 30 teams in this category, with 20 such games.) During their seven-straight losing seasons from 2012 to 2018, the Phillies scored 10-plus runs a total of 47 times, averaging about 6.7 offensive outbursts per season. With one today, it seems entirely possible that the Phillies will outpace that 6.7 mark, and perhaps reach double digit 10-plus runs scored games for the first time since 2011, which was incidentally the last time they made the postseason.

Phillies’ 10+ Run Games, 2000-2018
Year 10+ Run Games
2018 9
2017 9
2016 6
2015 6
2014 6
2013 5
2012 6
2011 12
2010 18
2009 18
2008 10
2007 17
2006 18
2005 21
2004 15
2003 18
2002 6
2001 13
2000 9
SOURCE: Baseball-Reference’s Play Index

(The highlighted years represent the Phillies’ postseason runs.)

Of course, while looking at the number of 10-plus run games gives us some indication of a team’s offensive prowess, these are still relatively random events. Sure, better offensive teams will naturally have more 10-run games, but a better way to evaluate offense is through runs per game, which is not a metric that has been favorable to the Phillies over the past few years.

We’ll see how the Phillies do as an offensive unit as the season drags on. Our Depth Charts projections like them to improve upon their 2018 runs per game figure of 4.18, jumping to a 4.62 mark. That would result in 748 runs scored this season, a 71-run improvement over their 2018 runs scored total of 677.

There might, however, be room for growth in these projections. As you likely know, projections tend to be a conservative estimate of a player or team’s future performance. It’s hard to project future improvement because, after all, we have no idea which players will improve (though the stats allow us to make informed guesses), and even among those who do, we don’t know by how much. That’s why I think it’s relevant to point to the Phillies’ projection for third base. In our positional power rankings, they were ranked 28th at the position, their lowest ranking across the board.

So, could Franco be in store for a breakout this year? It’s entirely possible. He has consistently posted a low strikeout-rate throughout his entire career. His 13.3 K% in 2018 ranked as the 24th-lowest in baseball among the 214 hitters with at least 400 plate appearances. Of those 23 with lower strikeout rates, just four of them, Justin Turner (.205), Didi Gregorius (.226), Alex Bregman (.246), and Jose Ramirez (.282) posted a higher isolated power than Franco’s .196. That’s not bad company, to say the least. Clearly, the potential for a rare contact-power profile is there, and batting lower in the order may help Franco reach it.

Yes, for the Phillies’ 2019 offense, it’s been just one game with 31 at-bats. It would be flat out malpractice to draw any conclusions from what we see on Opening Day. This is just one measure of offensive performance, and offensive performance is just one aspect of the game. With that said, I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw the rebuild’s holdovers benefit from a rejuvenated, star-studded lineup. And that would make the Phillies’ offense pretty scary.





Devan Fink is a Contributor at FanGraphs. You can follow him on Twitter @DevanFink.

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David PalardyMember since 2022
7 years ago

I know this is site has statistics as one of its foundations, which doesn’t always dovetail with “feelings”, but watching the game yesterday, you could just feel that there wasn’t an easy out. Like, there was no “I just gotta get through this part of the lineup”, because even past Harper/Hoskins/Realmuto, there was still Herrera/Hernandez/Franco, who aren’t bad hitters themselves.

Yes, it was just one game, but this team might be interesting to follow this year.

Brewtown_Kev
7 years ago

Harper will get his share of dingers, but I think fans will realize they’re really in for a treat with a couple of their other recent acquisitions–namely Segura and Realmuto. These guys are just good hitters, in a way that’s underappreciated in metrics like wOBA and wRC+. They put the ball in play, they move runners, and they score runs. Cesar Hernandez is another of the same type. When you mix hitters like this with TTO boppers like Harper, Hoskins, and Franco, you get some high scoring games. I think Phillies fans are going to enjoy watching this team, even if Harper doesn’t have a huge season. Of course, there is always the possibility that Harper *does* put it together again like he did back in 2015, and if that is added to this already potent lineup, then this team will hang with any team in either league.

YKnotDisco
7 years ago
Reply to  Brewtown_Kev

Franco is hardly a TTO type. Last year he was at 24%, and he has hovered around that mark (24%-27%) for his whole career. The MLB average is ~33%.

Brewtown_Kev
7 years ago
Reply to  YKnotDisco

Fair enough. 2 outta 3 ain’t bad, eh? Franco’s slow and he has big raw power, so I assumed he’s one of the TTO crowd without verifying it, but I stand corrected.

bmt24Member since 2023
7 years ago
Reply to  Brewtown_Kev

Except you don’t have to assume because a significant part of the article talks about his low k rate. You can’t be a TTO guy with a 13% k rate.

CreamyMember since 2015
7 years ago

I am a Mets fan, but I must admit I am impressed with the depth and quality of the new Phillies’ line-up. They seem to have an abundance of “professional” hitters on their team. A nice blend of vets and talented younger players.. Another fine article from Devan. Keep it up, young man . . .

Baron Samedi
7 years ago

“a guy in our lineup hit a home run and that basically never happens”

HarryLives
7 years ago

That’s a good Phillies lineup, but homering off of Shane Carle and Luke Jackson in outings when neither of them could throw their fastball anywhere close to where they intended doesn’t really speak to their talent. Julio Teheran, who had a 4.83 FIP last year, shut the Phillies down with 7 Ks and 2 BBs through five innings. Given better defense, fewer seeing-eye singles, and a home plate umpire that could call fastballs a few inches from being right down the middle strikes, Teheran might have kept the Phillies off the board entirely.

I’m not disagreeing with your points about the Phils depth and quality offensively (they’re good). I’m just saying that beating up on replacement-level middle relievers that really shouldn’t be on the 25-man roster of a contending team might not be the most clear demonstration of it.

tung_twista
7 years ago
Reply to  HarryLives

Also I thought depth usually referred to bench/utility players like Kike Hernandez.
Franco is penciled in as a starting 3B for the foreseeable future so I wouldn’t call him evidence of “depth”.
While having a league average bat at eight hole is nice, the benefit is probably not that great especially in the NL with IBB in front of pitchers.

CL1NTMember since 2026
7 years ago
Reply to  tung_twista

That’s some serious nitpicking… LOL.

DEPTH: means several things, but it is another way of saying ‘extent’ or ‘extend’ and ‘deepness’.

Franco isn’t part of the ‘primary’ names that the Phillies have been making headlines with this offseason. So I think it’s pretty apparent that the author is terming Franco as ‘depth’ in that Franco was an 8th hitter this past Thursday, when in any other year he would be higher in the lineup…. which is a testament of the Phillies…. wait for it…. DEPTH.

LHPSU
7 years ago
Reply to  CL1NT

It’s a testament to the Phillies’ lack of depth in years past, not to their depth this year.

bdcb58Member since 2025
7 years ago
Reply to  tung_twista

I believe his output last year was > league avg.

bdcb58Member since 2025
7 years ago
Reply to  HarryLives

In addition to their HR output, PHI could lead the NL in seeing-eye singles, given that Segura, Hernandez, Realmuto, Herrera and McCutchen have been prolific in that category, especially the first three.

matthoppy92
7 years ago

Not to mention some of the upside on the bench as well, Nick Williams, Scott Kingery, and Andrew Knapp all might have room to grow as players.

dl80Member since 2026
7 years ago
Reply to  matthoppy92

And with better infield defense, some of their pitchers (Pivetta? Velazquez?) might also be considerably improved. Both guys have had pretty ugly BABIPs for the past 2 years, and maybe that changes.

therealryan1Member since 2024
7 years ago
Reply to  dl80

I forget which writer published the article (I think Jaffe but not sure) about how infield defense hurt Arrieta the most in the NL last year.

AndyMember since 2026
7 years ago

See, i look at that chart and see 21 and 18 in the years before they passed the Mets.

TheRuckus
7 years ago
Reply to  Andy

The only time the Mets finished ahead of the Phillies between 2001-2012 was that 2006 season. In 2005 the Phillies won 88 games to the Mets’ 83.

bly
7 years ago

I had to check what site I was on when the article started talking about RBIs.

Ben HallMember since 2016
7 years ago

The main point of the article is true, but this thought jumped out to me.

“But what adding those players also does is make the other players in the lineup better. Players like Franco, Cesar Hernandez, Odubel Herrera and Rhys Hoskins may also benefit from seeing more fastballs in the zone.”

Unless I’m misremembering or there’s been new research, I’m pretty sure that The Book showed that lineup “protection” is a myth. I believe it showed that hitters may change their profile given better hitters behind them, but not their quality. That is, they traded walks for hits (but also outs) or vice versa, but their overall offensive output (measured by wOBA, I think) remained the same.

padraic
7 years ago
Reply to  Ben Hall

Agreed. When I read that excerpted section, I thought it would be followed by evidence that players improve (or get more fastballs) when they move down. Interesting first-day take, but maybe follow up on this idea.

NATS FanMember since 2018
7 years ago

The Phillies ability to reach or not reach the playoffs is clearly going to be on the strength of its pitching. The offense is powerful an could be tops in the NL.

elke
7 years ago
Reply to  NATS Fan

Agree that pitching is, obviously, key for Philadelphia. Offense has a lot of competition with the Dodgers, Nationals, Mets, Braves, Brewers, Cardinals all good. Not to mention, the C. Reds, and even Rockies…and Padres? That is a nice competition for best offense in the NL.
Lots of good offenses. Not as much good pitching, though, you could say.

therealryan1Member since 2024
7 years ago
Reply to  elke

The phillies to their credit do have Aaron Nola. While he may not be enough he’s more than a lot of those other teams have. Especially considering the rotations of the Brewers, Reds, Padres. While those three have high upside arms themselves, very few people in the NL have put together a season like Nola has the ability too.

HarryLives
7 years ago
Reply to  NATS Fan

Their bullpen looks solid. The rotation seems a bit thin, though, especially compared to the Nats and the Mets. Nola’s great. Pivetta might be good. After that, there are some question marks. The Nats’ and Mets’ rotations are clearly the class of the NL East.

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