The Threat of a Grievance Likely Spurred MLB’s Latest Offer to the Players

On Wednesday, not long after talks appeared to have stalled, Major League Baseball (MLB) presented a new proposal to the Major League Baseball Players Association (MLBPA) to resume the 2020 season. It was a sharp about face by the league, which on Monday had threatened to cancel the season entirely. The parties intended their March Agreement to resolve multiple issues related to the resumption of play following the postponement of the season due to COVID-19. I received a copy of what is likely the final agreement, although it is not the signed version agreed to and executed by the parties. The version I have received is dated March 26, 2020 and identified as a Final Proposal on one party’s letterhead. Two national baseball writers have independently verified to me that it is the final agreement. After reviewing the Agreement, I believe the threat of a grievance over MLB’s violation of the scheduling provision of the Agreement is what spurred these most recent talks.

Rather than summarize the March Agreement and each of its sections, I thought it would be useful to review it from the perspective of how an arbitrator might review the grievance the MLBPA has implied it will file if the commissioner unilaterally sets the schedule. Although it has been represented as a short agreement addressing a only handful of subjects, the March Agreement is actually a comprehensive document with 15 sections and an appendix covering 17 pages. The parties spent a significant effort reaching agreements over a host of things, both modifying and supplementing the Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA). It’s important to remember that both parties were represented by experienced, competent counsel throughout the negotiations that led to the March Agreement.

Earlier this week, the commissioner said his concern over a grievance might prevent MLB from scheduling a season at all. Manfred told ESPN, “Unfortunately, over the weekend, while Tony Clark was declaring his desire to get back to work, the union’s top lawyer was out telling reporters, players and eventually getting back to owners that as soon as we issued a schedule – as they requested – they intended to file a grievance claiming they were entitled to an additional billion dollars. Obviously, that sort of bad-faith tactic makes it extremely difficult to move forward in these circumstances.”

In relevant part, the CBA provides that a “‘Grievance’ shall mean a complaint which involves the existence or interpretation of, or compliance with, any agreement, or any provision of any agreement, between the Association and the Clubs or any of them, or between a Player and a Club.” Presumably, the Union’s grievance would be over the failure of the commissioner to meet the “best efforts” provision in the section on scheduling the regular season.

But before we even get to the scheduling section, there is another section that first must be reviewed. The Resumption of Play section gives the commissioner authority over whether or not a season will commence at all. The Agreement further provides the commissioner the right to suspend or cancel games after the commencement of the season if the same conditions are no longer met. This section does not permit the 2020 season to commence without the consent of the Office of the Commissioner and until there are no federal, state, city, or local restrictions on mass gatherings that would materially limit play in front of spectators, although the commissioner has the option to consider neutral sites or playing games in the absence of spectators if economically feasible; no relevant travel restrictions throughout the United States and Canada; and after consultation with medical professionals, the commissioner determines that play does not pose an unreasonable health risk to players, staff, or spectators.

Twice in this section as well as its preamble, “economic feasibility” or “economically feasible” are mentioned. There can be no doubt that the subject was discussed and included in the Agreement. But, what does it mean and how are the Agreement’s procedures applied?

The commissioner makes the first determination that the season can commence because the necessary conditions have been satisfied. On May 16, the Associated Press reported on an internal MLB document titled “Economics of Playing Without Fans in Attendance,” which served as the basis for MLB’s claim that it could not feasibly play games without fans. Throughout the intervening month, this remained a constant refrain from the commissioner and individual owners. But when speaking to ESPN a month later, the commissioner did not cite that as the reason games might not be played. Instead, Manfred said games might not be played because of the risk of a grievance. It’s almost a master class in what not to do.

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Imagine if a hiring manager, instead of saying “we’ve selected another candidate,” told a candidate for an opening at the hiring manager’s coffee shop that they would not be hired because of their race. Once said, it’s impossible to backtrack and say that isn’t the reason. Any new reason, even if otherwise legitimate, will be viewed as pretext.

Barring a government authority closing ballparks to games entirely, even in the absence of fans, or all domestic air travel being grounded, the Resumption of Play provisions can no longer be invoked to defend successfully against a grievance. If there had been a reasonable argument for the commissioner to cancel the season using his discretion before, he’s greatly undermined it now. It’s a surprising misstep given that rising COVID-19 case rates in several of the states that are home to major league franchises suggest that an argument for a shortened schedule or cancelled season centered around player safety might have been persuasive.

That brings us back to the scheduling section for the regular season. MLB still has the pretext issue hanging over it here as well, but in this section the commissioner has affirmative duties to move forward. There are a few key things to take out of this section, which is written as one long paragraph: setting the schedule is, as has been reported, within the commissioner’s discretion; it contemplates playing games beyond the scheduled end of the regular season; and it references economic feasibility three times.

Any labor relations practitioner will tell you that the discussions, feedback, and consulting required by this section are far from bargaining. Instead of negotiations, there are several matters the parties must talk about. Once the Union provides its feedback on those subjects, the commissioner is authorized to make the schedule “using best efforts to play as many games as possible” and taking into account a host of issues including “economic feasibility.” Then, after presenting one or more options to the MLBPA, the commissioner sets the schedule considering further feedback from the Union to the extent that that feedback is practicable and economically feasible.

The commissioner is responsible for making best efforts on two occasions. First, after the discussions and feedback from the MLBPA, he has to construct one or multiple schedule options:

“The Office of the commissioner will construct and provide to the Players Association, as promptly as possible, a proposed 2020 championship season and postseason schedule (or multiple schedule options) using best efforts to play as many games as possible, while taking into account player safety and health, rescheduling needs, competitive considerations, stadium availability, and the economic feasibility of various alternatives.”

Although the commissioner has unilateral authority in constructing the schedule(s), he does not have discretion about whether to do so. He must. That is why the MLBPA requested he do so by this past Monday.

Second, the Agreement states “the Office of the commissioner shall use best efforts to issue a 2020 championship season schedule that addresses, to the extent practicable and economically feasible, the feedback received from the Players Association.” This sentence is not written in the exact same mandatory fashion. The first sentence required the construction of the schedule(s) and best efforts to play as many games as possible. This sentence requires best efforts to issue a schedule that addresses the MLBPA’s feedback, but it provides caveats to reject the feedback if it is not practicable or economically feasible. It merely restates the commissioner’s discretion over the final schedule by giving him the ability to reject the Union’s feedback.

So, it’s really only in the construction of the schedule(s) that the economic feasibility acts as a counterbalance to playing as many games as possible. That said, what’s missing from this is who determines what is economically feasible. The Agreement does not define the term. In the absence of a definition or specific authority as to who determines feasibility, the arbitrator will be unable to use the plain language of the agreement to rule, in which case, he will allow the parties to present bargaining history. Surely, MLB will argue that it’s the commissioner himself who determines economic feasibility. But even still, he may be required to justify that conclusion. To evaluate that justification, the arbitrator would likely require the economic data that the individual clubs and MLB have failed to provide to the MLBPA. It would seem that the last thing team owners would want is an arbitrator ordering them to produce financial information that they would prefer to keep proprietary.

In collective bargaining, management is not required to share financial information unless it makes an inability to pay argument. Even so, only basic financial information is required. In this situation, though, much more detailed financial information would likely come to light. Even if MLB thought it had a better than 50% chance of prevailing in the grievance, keeping that information private may make them want to avoid a grievance. Perhaps it’s not the fear of liability that scares MLB; it’s the fear of disclosure.

Although grievance arbitration does not offer the same discovery opportunities as federal courts, arbitrators generally require parties to produce the evidence that they relied upon in making decisions that are the subject of or relevant to the grievance. The arbitrator may draw an adverse inference against the party failing to produce evidence in their possession or control, meaning the arbitrator will assume the evidence is adverse to MLB and its position.

All told, MLB has a lot of reasons to want to avoid a grievance, especially now that the commissioner has admitted that MLB wants to avoid the grievance. And it is likely this grievance avoidance that will lead to a resolution of the issues that have previously precluded agreement.

If the Players Association were to prevail in a grievance over MLB’s breach of its obligation to make best efforts to play as many games as possible, the arbitrator would have to determine how many games would have been accomplished had the clause not been breached, and then issue damages based on the difference between that figure and the actual games played under the unilaterally imposed schedule.

One last note. Despite all of the references to economic feasibility in the two sections referenced above, it is notably absent from the section on pay. The issue of pay was completely resolved with a pro rata agreement and formula in the March Agreement, with no contingency related to spectators attending games or other economic feasibility. That was a false argument from the moment it was uttered. Thankfully, that argument has been dropped by MLB. And if you are wondering about the further negotiations required by the Agreement, it merely stated, “the parties will meet regularly to bargain over application of, and any appropriate modifications to, all other provisions of the Basic Agreement and the collectively bargained Major League Rules, consistent with their agreements on the topics set forth above.” (There is another section related to further negotiations on transaction deadlines.)

I believe that the parties are now, finally, on track to reach an agreement to resume play. On Thursday, the MLBPA made a counter proposal. Although that led to another round of recriminations, the parties’ proposals are now closer than they ever have been before, not solely because their offers are close on the specific terms, but also because they cover identical subjects. The parties are no longer talking past each other.

They could have been here two months ago and four weeks ago and even last week had there not been impediments on the management side in accepting the March Agreement’s pay provisions, to which they had already agreed. After fruitlessly attempting to reopen those provisions for far too long, it was the threat of a grievance over the commissioner’s exercise of rights from that very same Agreement that likely drove the parties closer to resolution.





Eugene is Special Counsel to the President for a national labor union. He has negotiated 10 term CBAs, hundreds of mid-term agreements, and handled thousands of grievances. Eugene has previously written about the intersection of labor relations and baseball for Baseball Prospectus, The Hardball Times, and Baseball Think Factory. He went law school a few blocks from Camden Yards.

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pfgrMember since 2018
6 years ago

Thanks for the detailed discussion.

rthompsonMember since 2016
6 years ago
Reply to  pfgr

Love Eugene’s Twitter account-it has really helped a nube like me in figuring out what the heck is going on. Thanks Eugune!

The GuruMember since 2026
6 years ago
Reply to  rthompson

great article. thanks.

Mike Scott
6 years ago

From a bargaining standpoint where do you think this leaves the parties going forward? If the League moves closer to the Union’s proposal, do they risk giving up some leverage going into the 2021 CBA negotiations?

Smiling PolitelyMember since 2018
6 years ago

I wonder if we’ll see a change in MLBPA/Commissioner leadership before the “official” start to the next CBA negotiations (i.e. winter ’20?)

dl80Member since 2020
6 years ago

Let’s hope.

The Stranger
6 years ago

After the May/June he’s had, Manfred should be worried. He’s looked bad, but more importantly he’s made his bosses look bad. Whether he “decides to spend more time with his family” or not, he’s got to be having some uncomfortable meetings with various owners right now.

tomerafan
6 years ago
Reply to  The Stranger

“Oh, Rob, won’t see him no more…”

The Stranger
6 years ago

“The issue of pay was completely resolved with a pro rata agreement and formula in the March Agreement, with no contingency related to spectators attending games or other economic feasibility. That was a false argument from the moment it was uttered.”

Grr. Any shred of sympathy i had for the owners’ position (and many of the best defenses of the owners in the comments) was based on the premise that there was language in the March agreement that supported renegotiating salaries. I’m glad to finally hear from somebody who has analyzed the full document instead of just leaked pieces, but beyond pissed at what the owners tried to pull.

tomerafan
6 years ago
Reply to  The Stranger

Yeah, I’m confused by this and trying to understand if it’s opinion or fact. Obviously, I’m not a labor lawyer and I haven’t read the whole doc. So I’m just trying to process this as someone who has read way too much about this over the last 60 days.

He notes that the section on pay doesn’t specifically mention anything on economic feasibility, further bargaining, etc. But that’s not what was reported – i.e. I don’t think anyone has alleged that it was specifically mentioned. Rather, the argument was the linking of three separate clauses:

1. The season starts under the terms of the March agreement if there are fans in the stands, no travel restrictions, etc.
2. If there are no fans in the stands, the Commissioner has the option to play games under the terms of the march Agreement
3. If the commissioner doesn’t invoke that right, the season won’t start until the two parties bargain appropriate modifications (which was interpreted by other authors as an unrestricted clause, i.e. everything in the Agreement is up for continued discussion if we reach that point).

(Someone in an article specifically pointed to a circular loop between the Resumption of Play section and one of the other sections, perhaps the the “bargain modifications” language but I can’t find it.)

In other words, the Commissioner has a choice: start the season unilaterally under #2 and make a good faith effort to play as many games as possible under those terms, or continue negotiating under #3. Is this not true? Or is Mr. Freedman just saying the (true) statement that salary is not specifically mentioned as a modification that can be bargained in the event of #3 above?

Separately, I am not convinced that the owners “dropping it” means, in and of itself, that their position was without merit. I mean, it is also plausible that they dropped it because paying $1.5B pro rata over 60 games is the same as paying $1.5B at +/- 80% of pro rata for 80 games when there isn’t room in the calendar for 80 games. Said differently, the owners abandoned that argument when they no longer needed it based on the calendar… but that doesn’t in and of itself mean they don’t have a position for their argument.

If it really is fact that there are no logical joinders in the agreement that could consider salary one of the bargainable modifications in the event of #3 above, then it’s really odd that the owners held that position from almost day 1. Like, as soon as the ink was dry on March 27, the owners were saying “this is a salve; we’ll negotiate further if there aren’t fans in the stands.” It was clearly their intent, but, to be sure, intent doesn’t make it an agreement. But if it really is factually false without any room for interpretation rather than opinionally wrong, then yeah, I’m pissed beyond belief.

CliffH
6 years ago

“players are not required to accept less than their full prorated pay”

This really seems neither here nor there. The players are not required to accept ANYTHING different than the original agreement, are they? They are only required to negotiate in good faith. That negotiation can encompass any and all aspects of the agreement, including pay.

The Stranger
6 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

Wrote this over a period of time before I saw Eugenes response, but I’ll share it anyway.

So, one lawyer’s interpretation of a document is just one opinion and not the final word. Even judges get overturned on appeal sometimes. But at this point, Eugene is the only labor law expert I’m aware of who has read the whole thing and offered an opinion. And he seems well-qualified. And that’s as outright of a dismissal of an argument as you’ll ever see in an otherwise pretty fair article. It’s possible that Eugene was wearing his “union lawyer” hat and making an argument rather than an analysis, but for now I’m going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

As for your other point, I’m sure there was nothing stopping MLB and the union from renegotiating any part of the March agreement they wanted to. That’s almost always the case. Certainly they were wise to seek the union’s agreement on the plan rather than opening themselves up to a grievance.

My problem is that, while it’s fine to propose a mutually beneficial revision to the March agreement, it’s another thing to claim that the March agreement required the players to renegotiate salary. To make that claim without any basis is an incredibly arrogant and insulting way to start a negotiation. And it’s equally insulting to the fans to make that claim to sway public opinion thinking you’ll never get called out on it.

felixthebatMember since 2020
6 years ago

The biggest takeaway for me here is that Manfred flubbed the owner’s negotiating stance badly. Either they should have clearly included the need for attendance in the March agreement, or they should have emphasized player safety above all else in order to play the fewest games possible as they clearly want for profit reasons. Having done neither shows ineptitude at best.

tomerafan
6 years ago
Reply to  felixthebat

Yes. Agreed. And, also, he does himself no favors by talking.

brentdaily
6 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

I’d say there’s a non-zero chance he was only speaking to the hardline ownership faction with that statement. Almost defiantly putting their position out there to box them in and/or remove the defense. Lawyers are nothing if not precise in their language (pieces of metal notwithstanding).

The GuruMember since 2026
6 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

Looks like tomerafan all these arguments you have made trashing the players and taking the owners side of their argument have been a waste of time. You were wrong. 90% of the poster here saw this for what it was but you.

tomerafan
6 years ago
Reply to  The Guru

I never trashed the players. I said the Union wasn’t blameless. Those are two very, very different things.

Other sites and writers continue to note that the question of pay was open to interpretation. I continue to believe that we have all been bedeviled by a poorly written document that allowed interpretation from both sides of the table that could have been better handled by tackling the pay question explicitly rather than by omission.

MikeSMember since 2020
6 years ago
Reply to  felixthebat

The way the owners have handled these negotiations is extremely distasteful. Instead of actually negotiating, they have sought to divide the players and cast them as the villains at every turn. They presented the same offer three times in slightly different form, taking their time between each proposal so time could tick off the clock. Then when the players got fed up, the owners accused them of negotiating in bad faith. Now when the owners finally move a little and publicly announce what a great meaning Clark and Manfred had (the best meeting. A perfect meeting. Many people are saying so!) they act hurt when the players have the NERVE to offer a counter proposal to what they implied publicly was a “done deal.” It’s all very transparent and probably poisons the well for the next CBA negotiation.

Fungo4444
6 years ago

Except
You make half a case and it happens to be the labor case, and you happen to be a labor lawyer? Convenient

LynchMobMember since 2021
6 years ago
Reply to  Fungo4444

I’m interested to hear you make the other half a case … here is a good place, now is a good time … it’s always good to hear both/multiple sides …

WoundedSprinterMember since 2018
6 years ago
Reply to  Fungo4444

Remind us again what variety of lawyer Rob Manfred is.

Not a comment on either side. Just to point out that your premise is null and void.

matthayden4Member since 2024
6 years ago
Reply to  Fungo4444

Just take the L, Champ. It’s okay!

D-WizMember since 2019
6 years ago

This was a phenomenally informative read. Hopefully (for those who take the time to read this, at least) it will put to rest many of the more outlandish arguments being made in favor of the owners. It is almost mind-numbingly frustrating that the owners have spent 3 months trying to renegotiate something they had no business renegotiating (by their own admission, as Mr. Freedman helpfully shared in an earlier comment), and simultaneously blaming the other side for holding things up. It’s insane that it took some truly shocking incompetence from Manfred to get us to this point, but hopefully now that we’re on the right track we’ll all be watching baseball before too long!

Ryan DCMember since 2016
6 years ago

“Despite all of the references to economic feasibility in the two sections referenced above, it is notably absent from the section on pay. The issue of pay was completely resolved with a pro rata agreement and formula in the March Agreement, with no contingency related to spectators attending games or other economic feasibility. That was a false argument from the moment it was uttered.”

If that’s true and was obviously true from the start then a lot of writers and a lot of commenters (in this here comment section) are eating a whole bunch of crow right now.

twinkieslover
6 years ago
Reply to  Ryan DC

This paragraph is being misunderstood big time by most of the commenters here. This was his point: player pay and setting a schedule are not linked in the March agreement. He even admits that ‘Resumption of play’ is in fact tied to “economic feasibility” in the March agreement. As Eugene says in a comment earlier, the owners concede the March agreement entitles the players to full pro-rata pay.

Because there are new terms not in the current CBA to be negotiated (like expanding playoffs, suspension of QO, etc), these are now new terms that both parties must ratify. The players don’t want to ratify things though if the schedule isn’t to their liking (meaning less pay), which they conceded they don’t have authority over. The owners need the new agreement to implement the expanded playoffs, but kept calling for reduced pay for players which they also had already conceded. Both sides were/are entitled to dig in on those March terms (pro-rata for players, schedule control for Commissioner), but since new terms had to be agreed to, they were also trying to redo things that were already determined in March (players negotiating schedule length and owners negotiating players pay).

I’m not great with words but I hope this helps understand what Eugene meant. I get that you think those people who touted the ‘economic feasibility’ qualification in favor of owners should eat crow based on Eugene’s wording, but that’s not what Eugene is saying at all. He’s just saying pay and schedule setting aren’t directly linked in the March agreement

tomerafan
6 years ago
Reply to  twinkieslover

Bingo. Yes. But that is the argument other writers are making. Not that pay-negotiation was explicitly mentioned. But that games without fans in the stands required further negotiation on the agreement overall, with pay being one of many things that could be bargained there.

CL1NTMember since 2025
6 years ago

This is by far the best ‘breakdown’ of the March agreement I’ve seen thus far. Thanks!

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019🏆 MVP
6 years ago

MLB not negotiating in good faith. Calcaterra was right.

shampain
6 years ago

“Despite all of the references to economic feasibility in the two sections referenced above, it is notably absent from the section on pay. The issue of pay was completely resolved with a pro rata agreement and formula in the March Agreement, with no contingency related to spectators attending games or other economic feasibility. That was a false argument from the moment it was uttered.”

I mean, that seems pretty inconsistent with this:

“The commissioner makes the first determination that the season can commence because the necessary conditions [ed.: including economic feasibility] have been satisfied. … This sentence requires best efforts to issue a schedule that addresses the MLBPA’s feedback, but it provides caveats to reject the feedback if it is not practicable or economically feasible. It merely restates the commissioner’s discretion over the final schedule by giving him the ability to reject the Union’s feedback.”

If the Commissioner decides that it is economically infeasible to have a long season, and the May document has already made that case (whether it was specifically cited this week or not, that doesn’t seem relevant), and *all* of the owners’ offers have amounted to basically the same $ total (as Craig has so helpfully pointed out) then they’ve been consistent on the economic feasibility point all along. Maybe they’re wrong, but to show that the MLBPA would have to prove that MLB was negotiating *against its own economic interest* in consistently pushing for fewer games, which seems like an exceedingly hard case to prove.

So then the options are: a) find a way to make it economically feasible through negotiation, which seems to mean either reducing pay below pro rata for a longer season or (as you note) having fewer games, but the owners have clear and consistent that these are functionally the same thing to them; b) schedule the number of games that makes it economically feasible without the players’ input, which has been the owners’ backstop position all along, and your reading of this document gives the Commission this power; c) cancel the season entirely, whether because of health considerations or economic considerations.

This article, while appreciated for its analysis, also fails to grapple with what Manfred said this week: that the publicly-made grievance threat was itself evidence that the *MLBPA* was acting in bad faith. I.e., he wasn’t just raising the possibility of a grievance against MLB, but about the possibility of MLB filing a “bad faith” grievance against MLBPA. Which, given that their early proposals were clearly ludicrous, could not be dismissed out of hand. Thus, it’s not the kind of dead giveaway that the article indicates that it is.

This is probably all moot now that dozens of players/staff are sick and teams are shutting down their Spring Training facilities indefinitely. There will be a short season or no season, and probably no grievance possible because of the public health situation. Which is what the owners have been saying all along, because it really is the only sensible thing to do during a freaking global pandemic.

shampain
6 years ago

I didn’t say there was a duty to renegotiate. I said that there was an opportunity to do so, should the parties choose to do so, given the considerations of the agreement (including economic feasibility). The MLB had every right to ask for negotiation over salaries. The MLBPA had every right to refuse. The MLB had every right to adjust the schedule accordingly, according to the stated criteria (health, public policies, economic feasibility, etc). I don’t think anyone disagrees about that.

The question is whether the MLBPA has a legitimate case that MLB was obligated to schedule a long season at full pro rata, despite it being (apparently) unprofitable for them to do so, and also given the public health considerations. That’s really been the only question all along. I’ve seen nothing in your analysis that suggests that isn’t the case. So the fact that the league was willing to bargain at all is, in fact, evidence of good faith. And nothing in your analysis suggests that MLB does not have that prerogative. As you say, “It is not bad faith to enforce your rights under a term CBA or mid-term agreement.” What’s good for the goose, etc.

I’ll take it that you don’t question my other points.

bly
6 years ago
Reply to  shampain

I wouldn’t be so sure games will be unprofitable for MLB owners. It is a negotiation and it is partly in the court of public opinion. They are hardly reliable witnesses.

I’m not at all confident the owners are not just trying to get ads on jerseys, longer postseason, and other favorable terms out of this.

For all we know MLBPA is fine with these too but they need some public acrimony so we accept the final result—little of which I want.

synco
6 years ago
Reply to  bly

TBH I’ve had the same thoughts. I think that if owners were actually losing money on this after everything was said and done that they would have already canceled the season.

twinkieslover
6 years ago
Reply to  synco

Canceling the season would immediately depress the values of franchises and media deals. This is why they would hold a season while losing money. Simply go look what 1994 did to fan ratings, attendance, and general interest in baseball. Owners absolutely would hold games at a loss right now so as not to kill the golden goose.

shampain
6 years ago
Reply to  synco

The owners make money from the playoffs; they (according to them, but I think they’re right) lose money from the regular season with no fans. Thus, if the owners were actually losing money they would do exactly what they have done: keep the costs of the regular season down (via lower salaries or fewer games), while keeping the revenue from the playoffs intact.

WARrior
6 years ago
Reply to  shampain

“The MLB had every right to ask for negotiation over salaries. ”

It had every right to ask once. It did not have the right–or at least, any rational justification–for continuing to ask. The players made it clear early that they expected full prorated salaries. Continuing to offer basically the same financial deal, dressed up with different numbers of games at differently discounted rates off full prorated, was obviously not advancing the negotiations.

To me, it looks as though the owners did this as a way of stalling, so that when the two sides could finally agree, as few as possible games were left. And the tactic worked, though there may be a few more games to play as a price for avoiding the grievance.

CliffH
6 years ago
Reply to  WARrior

Yet it’s clear this narrative of offering “basically the same financial deal” over and over is simply false. If you go to the post that led to this erroneous belief, you will see the author provided a table which explicitly shows it to be not true. He then merely makes the assertion without any supporting evidence that all the offers were the same.

In contrast, I’m not sure that any of the players’ offers were better than the initial deal (for the owners).

shampain
6 years ago

Yes, but both sides *were* negotiating over compensation. The union was doing so through maximizing the number of games played, and thus % of total salaries paid. MLB through a fewer number of games and/or revenue sharing and/or salaries less than pro rata; these are all the same thing to both the owners and players, as both sides have made clear throughout the negotiation. The fact that MLBPA was participating in this process — and still is — is evidence that they consented to it, because they were not compelled to do so (as you rightly stated).

Indeed it was in their interest to do so. The players likely could have made more total money from this season had they been willing to move off of their positions on revenue sharing or full pro rata. There were lots of possible outcomes that would have mutually benefited both the players and owners relative to MLB’s backstop of 50ish games, and MLB had every right to pursue those avenues.

It will be very weird for MLBPA to say that MLB acted in bad faith by negotiating over compensation while they were simultaneously making their own proposals over compensation. And it will be very weird for MLBPA to argue that MLB was acting in bad faith by not making “best efforts” to play games that are economically feasible when MLB made a number of proposals to do just that, which the MLBPA acknowledged and countered. Should that bargaining process fail, and MLB schedules a season without coming to an agreement first, they are not only well within their rights to do so but will have a long paper trail showing that they made a series of good-faith efforts to reach a different outcome with the players.

Meanwhile, the players were saying “tell us when and where” but counter-proposing at the same time, while threatening a grievance were the league to do what the players said to do: impose a schedule. An arbitrator might not rule that that constitutes bad faith, but none of MLB’s negotiating positions were in worse faith than that.

So yeah: ultimately the players will get what they wanted most, which is full pro rata. And the owners will get what they wanted most, which is protection from “biblical” financial losses via a short season. But a failure to reach a negotiated agreement means that both sides are leaving money on the table.

And, of course, the fans are the ultimate losers.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 years ago
Reply to  shampain

I feel like you have read this article but not really understood it. What this article is trying to do is reorient you towards thinking like a lawyer, but you seem to be insistent that this needs to be analyzed like an economist. Which is also a good way to look at things, and I like economics as a discipline, but in this case it is likely to give us the wrong answer.

The story here is that “economic feasibility” is not defined and will almost certainly be contested in the absence of an agreement–and that there are a lot of good reasons why MLB should not want that to go to a formal process.

(and again, it’s important to note that the term “bad faith” does not appear anywhere in the article itself except in Manfred’s quote. it’s just not relevant at the moment)

shampain
6 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

But “economic feasibility” actually is defined, according to this commentary: the Commissioner has the right to decide what is and is not economically feasible (the *** portion is of specific interest here):

“Twice in this section as well as its preamble, “economic feasibility” or “economically feasible” are mentioned. There can be no doubt that the subject was discussed and included in the Agreement. But, what does it mean and how are the Agreement’s procedures applied?

“***The commissioner makes the first determination that the season can commence because the necessary conditions [ed.: including economic feasibility] have been satisfied***. On May 16, the Associated Press reported on an internal MLB document titled “Economics of Playing Without Fans in Attendance,” which served as the basis for MLB’s claim that it could not feasibly play games without fans. Throughout the intervening month, this remained a constant refrain from the commissioner and individual owners.”

The author tries to then dismiss that by saying: “But when speaking to ESPN a month later, the commissioner did not cite that as the reason games might not be played. Instead, Manfred said games might not be played because of the risk of a grievance. It’s almost a master class in what not to do.”

That Manfred, in one interview, conducted months into this process, responding specifically to a new threat from the MLBPA to file a grievance, did not specifically mention economic feasibility, when he had done so repeatedly for months, is an *incredibly* thin argument against the position that the owners have been motivated by economic feasibility during this process. They clearly have been, and Manfred only mentioned a grievance when the MLBPA threatened them with one.

Secondly, that’s not even what Manfred said. He said that the owners wanted to play a limited schedule, but did not want to be suckered by a bad faith effort to goad them into scheduling a season only to then face a costly grievance. Then Manfred tried to find a way to play a limited schedule without the grievance hanging over the sport. All of that is consistent with everything else they’d said up to that point. The MLBPA are the ones that changed their position, from orienting the negotiations around compensation to re-orienting them towards a grievance (clearly as set-up for the 2021 CBA negotiations, *not* playing this season under the conditions of the March agreement), and from a stance of “we get to approve the schedule and conditions” to “we’re not negotiating, tell us when and where” back to “no we want 70 games plus a bunch of other stuff”.

I get that the labor lawyer has to argue his brief. I have no problem with that. But this is really weak beer. I’d love to see FG publish a response from another lawyer. But they won’t.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 years ago
Reply to  shampain

I don’t see how exactly this is relevant to anything you were saying before. If that is the case, then the league has nothing to fear from a grievance. The commissioner makes the rules, therefore it is in the text of the agreement, and no records need to be opened up. Open and shut case. This is how these things get resolved when there is a disagreement.

shampain
6 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

It’s still a costly process. As I’ve said before in another thread: even if the owners think there’s a 10% chance that they’ll lose a billion-dollar grievance, that’s still (in expectation) a $100mn loss, plus the costs of actually fighting the grievance. There are a lot of reasons why someone would prefer to avoid this even if they think they’ll win.

tomerafan
6 years ago
Reply to  shampain

Correct. Choosing to avoid the “hazards of litigation” doesn’t mean that your position is without merit.

shampain
6 years ago

Eugene, you write:

“I know it seems like both parties were negotiating over compensation, but not according to the NLRA. Under the Act, there are distinct subjects of bargaining. Wages was concluded. Hours was not. If the players were negotiating hours (schedule) it would effect total pay outlays, but it didn’t affect wages under the Act. They refused to negotiate pay from the outset as was their right having already concluded pay negotiations with a mutual agreement on March 26.”

It’s not under question (any longer, anyway) whether negotiating over wages was obligated. It’s only under question whether it was allowed, given the other provisions (health/safety, economic feasibility, policy restrictions, etc) of the March agreement. Clearly it is allowed, or at least you have not demonstrated that it wasn’t. And the fact that it was allowed is demonstrated not only by the agreement but by the MLBPA’s actions, where they would respond to proposals over wages with counter-offers over scheduling.

Perhaps that’s a colloquial definition of “negotiation”. It really doesn’t matter. It’s what happened, and is happening, and it’s within the bounds of the March agreement.

WARrior
6 years ago
Reply to  shampain

“both sides *were* negotiating over compensation. The union was doing so through maximizing the number of games played, and thus % of total salaries paid. MLB through a fewer number of games and/or revenue sharing and/or salaries less than pro rata”

I think that’s a biased view of the players’s position. Yes, the more games played, assuming fully prorated, the more money they make. But games are MLB’s product, and you would think both sides would want to maximize the amount of product sold. If the owners really believe they lose money per game (and according to Craig, this is only true for some owners, not for all or most of them), they should have said in March that if there are no fans, there is no season. If losses are minimized by playing fewer games, then the logical extension is not to play any games at all. We now know that fully prorated salaries were decided in March, so why would the owners even contemplate a season when—according to them—they were going to lose money?

“The players likely could have made more total money from this season had they been willing to move off of their positions on revenue sharing or full pro rata.”

How do you figure that? Every proposal the players made was countered by a partially prorated offer that basically cost the players the same amount of money. That’s why this process has been so frustrating. E.g., the latest 60 game fully prorated offer by the owners was essentially identical to their 72 game discounted offer, assuming a postseason. The players would have gotten to play twelve more games, a plus, but at the same total salary, and, let’s not forget, more risk of C19.

“Meanwhile, the players were saying “tell us when and where” but counter-proposing at the same time, while threatening a grievance were the league to do what the players said to do: impose a schedule.”

The players said “when and where” once, and that was not as part of a counter-proposal. It was a signal they were done with this charade. They did counter the owners’s subsequent 60 game offer, but that was not, strictly speaking, a response to when and where, since it was contingent on no grievance, whereas a fully mandated season does leave open the possibility of a grievance. IOW, the owners never responded to when and where. They still haven’t.

“But a failure to reach a negotiated agreement means that both sides are leaving money on the table.
And, of course, the fans are the ultimate losers.”

Again, I don’t see that the players have left any money on the table. The owners have consistently asked the players to shoulder a certain amount of what they regard as a loss. As a fan, what I think has been lost is a longer season, and since the owners were opposing that at every step of the way, I don’t see how a negotiated agreement would have changed that. The players at one point proposed a 114 game season, which would have been long enough to have fairly legitimate playoff teams and league leaders in various stats. The owners would only accept that at I believe 50% of prorated salaries (in other words, very similar to the 60 game at fully prorated now being offered)—and even worse, wanted the most highly paid players to take a larger paycut.

Someone here argued that employees in other businesses are voluntarily taking pay cuts for the sake of the business, but don’t you see how hypocritical the owners’s position is? As Craig detailed, the league as a whole would not lose money per game with fully prorated salaries—only some individual owners would. There’s a very simple way to address this. Have the league distribute the total revenue evenly, so that no owner takes a loss. The owners won’t consider this. Though they are not competitors—except when it comes to signing certain players—are in the position in which it’s in their own interest that other owners also flourish, are all on the same side of the current negotiations, they won’t take this simple step that would have solved the entire problem. Instead, they want the players, who are on the other side of the negotiations, to help them out, because they can’t help themselves out. How much further out of touch with reality can you be?

shampain
6 years ago
Reply to  WARrior

“But games are MLB’s product, and you would think both sides would want to maximize the amount of product sold. If the owners really believe they lose money per game (and according to Craig, this is only true for some owners, not for all or most of them), they should have said in March that if there are no fans, there is no season.”

The owners’ position has always been that regular season games without fans lose money, on average, while playoff games make money. That is because of the different tv contracts covering those games. From what we know of those contracts it appears to be true. So playing a short regular season with an expanded playoff schedule is a way for both players and owners to salvage some revenue from this year.

“Every proposal the players made was countered by a partially prorated offer that basically cost the players the same amount of money.”

That isn’t actually true, but my point was that the players could — under a range of scenarios — make more with revenue sharing over a longer schedule with more “special” events (expanded playoffs, virtual HR Derbies, etc) than with full pro rata over a shorter schedule with fewer “special” events. But it was impossible to explore those possibilities since they insisted on full pro rata, and nothing else, from the start and — as Eugene has so carefully explained — they were under no obligation to budge from that under any circumstances.

“There’s a very simple way to address this. Have the league distribute the total revenue evenly, so that no owner takes a loss.”

Why should the owners do this when the players won’t agree to do it also, either amongst themselves or with the owners? The players have no more of a claim on hypothetical revenue than the owners do.

tomerafan
6 years ago
Reply to  WARrior

Craig’s numbers plus some additional analysis suggest that most (not some) owners will lose money. I mean, he wants to ignore payroll tax. The Medicare rate is 1.45% paid by both the employee and the employer. So if payroll is $25m per game or $12.5M per team, then every team pays almost $150k in payroll tax per game. True variable cost. Craig ignores it because it “isn’t in the CBA” but that doesn’t matter. There is a per-game cost to the Government that flips a handful of the teams in Craig’s analysis from per-game net positive revenue to per-game net negative cost. And that’s just one item. There are others.

Besides, the fact that the owners didn’t jump at more games means their assertion has significant merit. They are greedy after all. They would seek to maximize profit at all human cost without regard to player health, right? So if regular season games were profitable, why would they seek to minimize rather than maximize that source of profit?

CliffH
6 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

It should be obvious to anyone who has given the matter consideration that eliminating 100% of gate revenue and concessions will result in unprofitable regular season games for many teams and overall.

felixthebatMember since 2020
6 years ago
Reply to  shampain

I agree that it’s potentially moot now. It’s still interesting to consider.
Nothing good for baseball would come out of a grievance filing with arbitration. However, if it led to finding out one way or another finally if the financial details of the teams match the owner’s perpetual cries of poverty, that would be fruitful. IMHO, that’s the outcome most terrifying for the owners and they’d rather cut a painful deal for a year or two than take a strategic defeat on the revenue numbers in advance of the CBA negotiations.
I suspect that the owner’s offers with the same repetitive amount of money in different forms were due to that being the break even point for a subset of teams while some or most would still be profitable.
Normally I would say most businesses would argue that’s their definition of “economically feasible” since often it’s an existential threat to take a loss. That’s not the case here, since baseball is not likely to go under due to this season, regardless of the outcome. As many people have said, this is about who takes the brunt of the losses. If the definition of “economic feasibility” is that the business never can take a short term loss ever, then I suppose the owner’s argument holds water from a legal sense.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 years ago

Okay, so here’s the question:

If the players reject the latest proposal and tell them to go back and set the schedule, under what circumstances can they file a grievance that they can reasonably win?
The league refuses to set the schedule?
The league sets the schedule at 50 games?
They cancel the season?
All of these sound like they are possible outcomes and could result in grievances.

shampain
6 years ago

“All of these outcomes you referenced would likely result in a grievance.”

Right, this is what the owners are angry about: the players are clearly using the grievance threat to open up the books in advance of the next CBA negotiations, which is not what it was established for in the March agreement.

shampain
6 years ago

Of course they can file a grievance. So can the owners. The point is that that is a costly and combative process that the owners would otherwise prefer to avoid, and seeking pathways forward to avoid it does not violate the March agreement in any way.

There is nothing in the March agreement saying that the owners have to prove economic infeasibility to the players’ satisfaction. The Commissioner determines economic feasibility, according to your own reading of the text of the agreement. You try to dismiss that because of one interview Manfred gave where he discusses the grievance that had just been publicly threatened, but that really has no bearing on what is required to play the season under the terms of the March agreement.

Particularly since the grievance is transparently *not* about the economics of 2020 given the March agreement, but about the CBA negotiation of 2021 (or, at least, that is the owners’ conviction).

docgooden85Member since 2018
6 years ago
Reply to  shampain

This debate highlights the informational asymmetry at play here. The players’ “books” are already wide open. The owners operate under a federally granted license to a monopoly on a public good, in many cases with local taxpayer funded amenities. There is a clear public interest in them showing everyone what the hell is going on with their balance sheets. If an industry cries collectively poor while their franchises have been increasing roughly 1 billion apiece in the past 2 decades, it stands to reason someone needs to figure out why it’s either somehow true or what they are hiding. If it is somehow true, then it’s simple – the wrong idiots own our beloved baseball teams. But I think they’re lying (and the wrong idiots still own our baseball teams).

tomerafan
6 years ago
Reply to  shampain

There is nothing in the March agreement saying that the owners have to prove economic infeasibility to the players’ satisfaction. The Commissioner determines economic feasibility, according to your own reading of the text of the agreement. You try to dismiss that because of one interview Manfred gave where he discusses the grievance that had just been publicly threatened, but that really has no bearing on what is required to play the season under the terms of the March agreement.

Bingo. Proving that the world is round doesn’t end the debate if the question is the color of the sky. If there are no fans in the stands, further negotiations are required. The players are not required to compromise or bargain further on pay but, absent fans, they were obligated to negotiate in general unless the Commissioner imposes his own season. Both the owners and the players failed to come together and bargain further. (Query what else the players were prepared to bargain if not salaries, but that’s not relevant here.). Both made non-starter proposals from the eyes of the other side. Neither moved much though the owners did move a little. Both sides have an argument to feel aggrieved that the other side didn’t really bargain at all (Though I do think the MLBPA has a passionate but hard to prove argument that the owners merely stalled to shorten the season). This is not solely on the feet of either party but a mutual failure of ownership and the Union to get the players back to work on fairly negotiated terms without fans in the stands.

(Those who decry the owners incremental salary offers are silent on the opposing fact that the players basically offered nothing more than a longer season despite the owners continued assertion that it was both unprofitable and presented unacceptable health risks that would imperil the model overall. Again, if the games were profitable and the health risk imagined, the owners would have jumped at the chance for a longer season and longer playoffs a month ago.)

Just listened to EW ep 1553 including the poll results Ben read. 35% pro owner or team, 35% pro player, and 30% undecided. That validates that this comment board is not a representative sample. I remain in that 30%, and I would suspect that many of those folks believe that both sides are to blame.

ThrasiusMember since 2016
6 years ago
Reply to  tomerafan

@tomerafan, I don’t think that matters though. What matters is the National Labor Relations Act with respect to the collectively bargained March agreement. Though I may be reading Eugene wrong.

Demiurge
6 years ago

“So, you are saying the players can’t file a grievance for breach of their agreement with management”

He literally didn’t say that. You’re really a lawyer?

CozarMember since 2020
6 years ago

There is a lot of good info here, but it is simply not true that the March agreement made further negotiations over pay a false argument.

If the MLB determines it is only economically feasible to play 40 games at full salaries, but it would be economically feasible to play 80 games at reduced salaries, nothing in the agreement could prohibit the MLB from making an 80-game proposal at reduced salaries. The players, of course, had no obligation to accept a reduced pay proposal, and once the reduced pay proposal was rejected, the owners are required to play the maximum number of economically feasible games at full pay.

There was nothing wrong with the owners making an offer to add more games if salaries are reduced. The dirty tactic was that the owners made the offer while withholding the financial information necessary to evaluate the truth of the representation about the number of economically feasible games.