The White Sox Have Two Aces

Chris Sale is the best pitcher in the American League, and one of the true aces in baseball. He’s made the All-Star team four straight years, and has finished in the top six in Cy Young voting in each of those seasons as well. He may be overshadowed in Chicago by what Jake Arrieta is doing right now, but Chris Sale is still recognized as one of the game’s best pitchers.

Chris Sale has a teammate, though, who you probably wouldn’t recognize unless he walked up to you and said “Hi, I’m Jose Quintana, and I’m really good at my job.” And he should consider doing just that, because Jose Quintana is indeed really freaking good at his job.

WAR, Past Calendar Year
Name IP BB% K% GB% HR/FB LOB% BABIP ERA- FIP- xFIP- WAR RA9-WAR
Clayton Kershaw 247.1 4% 34% 50% 9% 80% 0.262 50 49 54 9.8 9.8
Jake Arrieta 240.1 6% 27% 57% 8% 83% 0.230 37 61 68 7.5 11.3
Chris Sale 230.0 5% 32% 42% 12% 76% 0.293 71 65 67 7.0 6.1
David Price 217.0 5% 27% 41% 9% 76% 0.306 74 68 74 6.2 5.9
Dallas Keuchel 232.0 6% 24% 60% 14% 75% 0.301 80 73 69 5.9 5.8
Jose Quintana 216.0 5% 22% 47% 7% 79% 0.317 68 69 83 5.9 6.7
Zack Greinke 227.2 5% 23% 47% 8% 82% 0.252 57 75 84 5.7 8.7
Max Scherzer 231.0 5% 30% 36% 12% 80% 0.272 79 79 76 5.6 5.8
Jacob deGrom 179.0 5% 28% 47% 8% 78% 0.267 61 63 72 5.5 5.5
Corey Kluber 217.0 5% 28% 42% 11% 72% 0.281 86 72 75 5.5 4.6

Over the past 365 days, Quintana is tied with Dallas Keuchel for the fifth best WAR among pitchers in baseball. If you prefer the runs-allowed version of WAR, he’s fourth. No matter how you evaluate a pitcher, Jose Quintana has been amazing for the past year, and yet, he’s still somehow rarely discussed as one of the game’s elite.

But it’s time to stop talking about Quintana as a fun story who beat the odds and start talking about him as a guy who just keeps improving, and is now one of the best pitchers alive. Yes, Quintana’s backstory is fascinating — he’s perhaps the best minor league free agent any team has signed in the last few decades — and his unique path to the big leagues has probably tempered the hype that would normally follow a pitcher who performed this well upon arrival in the big leagues. And it’s also true that Quintana doesn’t have overwhelmingly dominant stuff, so he’s not as easy to appreciate as a guy like Noah Syndergaard.

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But we’re now on year five on Quintana’s career, and he’s been fantastic in every single season. And he’s getting better.

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In Quintana’s first year in the big leagues, he was a contact specialist who outperformed his peripherals, but he jumped his strikeout rate up to the league average rate in year two, then maintained that level while cutting his walk rate in each of the next three seasons. This year, he’s spiking the strikeout rate up again, and his K% sits at 25% through his first six starts of 2016. And while six starts is still definitely in the land of small sample size, there are reasons to believe that Quintana’s legitimately getting better.

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Over the last few years, Quintana’s fastball has sat around 91-92. In April, when most pitchers are still pitching at something less than their peak velocity, he sat at 92-93. Last night, in an eight inning dominant performance shutting down the Red Sox, he was sitting around 94. Quintana’s velocity has slowly been trending upwards ever since he got to the big leagues, but last night was the fastest his fastball has ever been clocked in a single game.

And while velocity isn’t everything, it certainly helps. The in-zone contact rate on Quintana’s fastball, by season.

In-Zone Contact Rate on Quintana’s Fastball
Season Z-Contact%
2012 88.7%
2013 87.2%
2014 87.5%
2015 88.6%
2016 84.2%

Whether it’s coincidence or confidence, Quintana is also spotting his fastball in the zone more often this year, throwing it over the plate 60% of the time. So he’s throwing more strikes and getting less contact with his fastball, which is a pretty nifty combination. As such, his fastball has gone from being an average pitch to the second most effective fastball in baseball this year, behind only Vincent Velasquez’s heater. On a per-100-pitches basis, Quintana’s fastball still ranks 4th, so he’s not just running up the fastball value by using it a lot.

At the same time Quintana is speeding his fastball, he’s also slowing down his curve, throwing it in the high-70s now, as opposed to the low-80s breaking ball he had when he broke into the big leagues. During Quintana’s first few years in the big leagues, he had roughly a 10 mph difference between his fastball and his curveball; this year, it’s over 15 mph. While there’s been plenty of research done that shows differentiation in speed between fastballs and change-ups is important, there hasn’t been as much work done on the impact of a big gap between fastball and curveball, so we can’t say with certainty that this is part of the reason Quintana is performing better, but Quintana is clearly doing something right, and this is one of the most noticeable changes.

Quintana already had one of the best curveballs in baseball — only Corey Kluber, Felix Hernandez, and Clayton Kershaw rank ahead of him in curveball value since the start of the 2014 season — but the addition of a better fastball seems to be pushing Quintana up yet another level. And he was already really good.

Quintana’s probably never going to throw in the upper-90s, and his brand of steady excellence is less exciting than an out-of-nowhere breakthrough, but at this point, Quintana’s track record demands recognition as one of the game’s best pitchers. While he may always be overshadowed by Chris Sale, Quintana would the best pitcher on most teams in baseball, and he’s becoming a star in his own right.





Dave is the Managing Editor of FanGraphs.

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cabreraguy
10 years ago

Why don’t you show his fWAR?

Beel418Member since 2025
10 years ago
Reply to  cabreraguy

He did?

cabreraguy
10 years ago
Reply to  Beel418

Yeah, I missed it. D’oh!

wildcard09
10 years ago
Reply to  cabreraguy

fWAR is just regular WAR, since that’s considered more of the standard over the RA9 version.

paulkrugman
10 years ago
Reply to  wildcard09

If this was about RA9-WAR, the article would have to be about Arrieta. His number’s in Pedro territory.

cy25
10 years ago

Also 6th in WAR since the start of 2013, for pitchers of course. Not just the past calendar year

Rational FanMember since 2025
10 years ago
Reply to  cy25

Yeah, but people still referred to him as a “very good #2” for much of the past year. He has been a #1 for quite some time now, he just isn’t on his own team because of how great Sale is.

I had argued that his WAR was top 10 since he entered the league, and if that by definition does not make you a #1 I don’t know what does. It is harder to accept that a guy without dominant stuff is an ace, but pitching is an art and Quintana has mastered that art form. He has complete control of all four quadrants of the plate – up, down, in and out. He can throw any pitch in any count, and he has control of all of his pitches. There is so much more value in that, if you have good but not great stuff, than there is in having great stuff in my opinion.

JediHoyer
10 years ago

Amazing extensions they signed Quintana, sale and eaton to. Talk about surplus value.

Mahoney
10 years ago
Reply to  JediHoyer

Over the last 3 calendar years Quintana’s been sixth in the majors with 14.3 fWAR, worth about $111 million. Sale is just behind Price for #3 with 17.3 WAR/$133 million.

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=6&season=2016&month=12&season1=2016&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&sort=8,d

MattabattacolaMember since 2026
10 years ago

Go Quintana! I feel like I am the only person in the world with his jersey and I am proud to wear it… Jose, you the real MVP

witesoxfan
10 years ago

To some extent, I’ve always felt that Jose Quintana is along the lines of what you’d get if Mark Buerhle had velocity.

mikecws91
10 years ago
Reply to  witesoxfan

AKA Jon Lester.

Mahoney
10 years ago
Reply to  mikecws91

Perfect. Quintana is what Jon Lester would be if he joined the Dodgers in Kershaw’s third or fourth season – a hidden ace.

Dunt
10 years ago

Top 25 pitcher in the AL right now according to MLB Network

victorvran
10 years ago

Good to see Q get some love.

MikeSMember since 2020
10 years ago

It isn’t just the lack of overwhelming stuff that keeps him off the radar. He still does not have a season with 10 wins. Coming into this season, he was below .500, despite accumulating 15 WAR. A lot of that is due to pitching in front of an awful defense and supported by an equally awful offense, so people don’t notice him.

Even now, he may be the third most interesting lefty on his own team since people are drooling over Rodon and his slider. That’s fine with this White Sox fan. Just keep underestimating him and let him be the Silent Assassin.

Neils-Henning Orsted Joc Pederson
10 years ago

Every year Cameron writes a Trade Value piece. And every year he rates Quintana 20, 30 spots too low, or more. And every year someone patiently explains in the comments section how Quintana, based on both fWAR and bWAR, should be right there alongside Madison Bumgarner in said value rankings. And every year this leads to a debate.

Lotta effing nerve, Cameron of all people penning this piece for Fangraphs. Crap on Q over and over and over and over, then this. The very last person on the entire planet who should be telling us how good Quintana is, lecturing us, is Dave Cameron.

Fuck you, Dave.

CosmoMember since 2024
10 years ago

great satire

swingofthings
10 years ago
Reply to  Cosmo

Well, hopefully

raws
10 years ago

This piece signals Cameron’s recognition of Quintana as elite, explicitly because of changes the pitcher has made. Last July, Quintana moved four spots lower on the trade value list, where Cameron compared him to Keuchel, adding that: “Unlike Keuchel, Quintana isn’t a frontline guy, and probably never will be; he’s maybe more akin to someone like Doug Fister.” It does appear disingenuous that we read here: “[Quintana] still somehow rarely discussed as one of the game’s elite.”

Anonymous
10 years ago

Tyler Flowers was the White Sox catcher in 2015. He was the 2nd best pitch framer in the majors.

For the 2016 season, the White Sox lost Tyler Flowers to the Braves. They downgraded from a +22.5RAA pitch framer to three negative-valued pitch framing catchers.

'Tungsten Arm" O'Doyle
10 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Losing anything to the Braves this year deserves its own article.

AM
10 years ago

and he was released by the Yankees in 2011…