Top of the Order: Matt Chapman and the Giants’ Payroll Obligations

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It takes a lot to get a Scott Boras client to eschew free agency in favor of an extension, but Matt Chapman’s new pact with the Giants certainly qualifies. Chapman’s first trip through free agency culminated in him signing a below-expectations three-year deal for $54 million that allowed him to opt out after each season. The late signing led to an understandably slow start (a 79 wRC+ in April after signing the deal in March), but he’s more than made up for it since. In fact, his 4.5 WAR is his best since 2019. As a result, Chapman was rewarded with a six-year, $151 million deal, with a $1 million signing bonus and annual salaries of $25 million across the six years.
Chapman sticking around further solidifies a Giants core that also includes Logan Webb, Patrick Bailey, LaMonte Wade Jr., Heliot Ramos, Jung Hoo Lee, and Ryan Walker, as well as complementary players like Robbie Ray, Jordan Hicks, and Taylor Rogers, all of whom are under contract next year. Mike Yastrzemski, Tyler Rogers, and Camilo Doval should all stick around through the arbitration process as well. That’s a good start, but obviously not quite enough for a team that isn’t making the playoffs this year and is set to lose some key players to free agency. Barring something catastrophic, Blake Snell seems sure to opt out, and Michael Conforto and Mark Canha are also set to hit the open market.
Fortunately for Farhan Zaidi and the rest of the Giants front office, they have plenty of payroll flexibility with which to backfill the roster. Including Chapman’s new contract, we project the Giants’ 2025 luxury tax payroll at just under $136 million. That’s $117 million below this year’s number, and $104 million below the first luxury tax threshold — a threshold the Giants may view as something of a cap since they’ll be over the tax line this year.
Of course, some of that $104 million gets eaten away rather quickly. Wilmer Flores will almost certainly exercise his $3.5 million player option after a trying and injury-plagued year, and Yastrzemski, Wade, Doval, and Tyler Rogers are all arbitration-eligible. At minimum, that’ll add another $20 million to the club’s payroll. Nonetheless, $80 million is a big chunk of change, one that Zaidi needs to allocate appropriately to turn the Giants back into a contender and perhaps even save his job.
The most pressing need for the Giants, as it has been since the end of Barry Bonds‘ career, is power hitting. Not since Bonds’ 2004 season has a Giant hit 30 or more home runs, an ignominious streak that’ll hit 20 years at the conclusion of this season unless Ramos or Chapman pop off this month. Fortunately for San Francisco, the upcoming free agent class has plenty of power bats: Juan Soto and Anthony Santander should finish the year with at least 40 home runs, and Pete Alonso, Teoscar Hernández, Willy Adames, and perhaps Tyler O’Neill ought to end up somewhere in the 30s. Oracle Park’s unfriendly dimensions — augmented by the marine layer around McCovey Cove — doesn’t make hitting homers easy, so we can’t simply transfer a big bat’s statistics to Oracle Park and call it good. But any of the listed hitters, especially Soto and Santander, have the pop to end the 30-homer-hitter drought. Wade and Yastrzemski are the only lefties locked into starting roles for next year, so the lefty Soto or switch-hitting Santander would fit better from that perspective. Other non-righties set to become free agents include Josh Bell, Carlos Santana, Cody Bellinger (if he opts out), and old friend Joc Pederson.
The top of the rotation is in better shape entering the offseason than the lineup; no Giant bat is as impactful as Webb is on the mound. He’s one of the best and most durable pitchers in baseball, and he’ll be joined in the rotation by Ray, upstart youngster Kyle Harrison, and likely Hicks. To go along with that quartet, the Giants have a stable of young pitchers who could fill out the rotation, including Hayden Birdsong, Mason Black, and Tristan Beck; Birdsong is especially intriguing.
The depth is pretty good as there are options aplenty, but that doesn’t mean that the Giants shouldn’t look to replace Snell. While San Francisco is going to miss out on October baseball this year, the co-ace plan of pairing Webb and Snell worked well as soon as Snell finally got rolling in the second half. The Giants have the cash to try the same thing again, whether it means bringing Snell back, or adding Corbin Burnes or Max Fried. Neither Burnes nor Fried is nearly as prolific as Snell at inducing swings and misses, so the Giants would have to be cognizant of how they build their defense; they currently rank 14th in OAA and 20th in defensive runs saved.
The number of options that Zaidi and co. have on both sides of the ball is pretty overwhelming, and the front office is almost certainly doing pre-work right now to determine who exactly to go after. With $80 million or more to play with, the offseason could go in a ton of different directions. Chapman’s extension is just the first step in what will be a consequential winter for the Giants, especially if they aren’t able to wait out the market like they did with Snell and Chapman. That could lead to San Francisco tying up a whole bunch of money beyond 2025, decisions that could make or break the front office’s future, not to mention the team’s.
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Snell and Soto would cost $80 million together. The rest just seem a giant step down
I mean, they do have to replace Conforto and Soler, and find upgrades for the 2nd base Kudzu. Sure, Soto upgrades one of those positions, but that leaves two holes. You could bet on Wisley, but he looks overmatched in MLB.
Yes, they definitely need another middle infielder. But do they need to prioritize replacing Conforto / Soler? I’m a little skeptical of Heliot Ramos keeping this up but Ramos – Lee – Yastrzemski but the outfield is a reasonable group and it’s not like it would take a lot of money to bring back Conforto or Joc Pederson.
Conforto has been a barely average hitter and badly negative defender. Ramos is a terrible defender, and should not be in CF the way the Giants have been playing him (he might be OK in LF). Lee is a barely net-neutral CF defender and he can’t hit a lick (his ground ball rate and contact numbers look like someone facing Logan Webb for all of their at bats); he looks like a 4th OF moving forward despite his contract. Yas is the only member of that outfield I’d be comfortable with full-time, and he’s strictly a platoon-only player (this year vs. Lefties is an extreme outlier to his past performance and he’s striking out against them 33% of the time anyway).
That sounds like they need someone to play center field but there aren’t any sure-fire solutions in free agency this offseason either. Trent Grisham and Harrison Bader are a little dicey individually but would make a great platoon. Cody Bellinger might opt out but you shouldn’t give him a better deal than the one he already has with the Cubs. These don’t sound any more expensive than bringing back Conforto or Pederson, or even that they would be mutually exclusive.
If the Giants want a glove first CF, maybe the Cardinals will trade Michael Siani, since the Cardinals also have a similar player in Victor Scott II who has a higher prospect pedigree and ceiling to potentially replace Siani.
Then again, the Giants have a bigger need for offense in the first place.
Fuckin Jung Hoo Lee, y’all. Don’t sleep on the Grandson of the Wind
I am snoring loudly, and you can’t hear the soft sound of his bat over it.
Whatever, man. Just barely started the transition to MLB, struck out less than Steven Kwan and hit the ball a lot harder. Lotta teams would be happy with that in Center
Lee had above average xwOBA before succumbing to injury less than a month and a half into the season.
Also, he was a 25 year old adjusting to a new league, not to mention a new country.
Ha-Seong Kim, Lee’s previous teammate, hit for wRC+ 71 across 298 PAs in his debut MLB season also at age 25. (0.8 WAR/600PA)
In the past three years since then, he has been worth wRC+ 106 and 3.8 WAR/600PA.
Not saying lee would develop like that, but 37 games is laughably small sample for judging a 25 year old foreigner rookie.
They don’t need a better than replacement level 2B with Soto because a 6 WAR player fills 2 WAR slots. They can try out various intriguing options. That is supposed to be Zaidi’s strength – finding average production at bargain prices
It’s better to have continuous options throughout the lineup. If you have to pick, sure, that’s an acceptable compromise. But it is a compromise, not an ideal situation. Especially not with infield defense being so important to the Giants and their GB-heavy pitching staff.
Why are two 3 WAR players better than one 6 WAR player and a total unknown?
In terms of just that simple math, it’s not. But you know full well it’s not that simple.
Cost, availability of the 6 WAR player (Soto has an East-Coast preference and will be highly sought after), how that WAR is accrued, and direct positional need all factor in. If they get Soto and have to do that, that’s fine.
But what the Giants need is not one giant bat. The offense is a mess, in general. Even with Chapman, and Wade hitting well, and Ramos and Fitzgerald going nuts and outhitting any expectations, they’re a below-average offense. One hitter, even Soto, is not going to fix that, not completely. And then you consider that the Giants absolutely need their infield defense to be elite, and that they have other holes as well (even if they bring back Snell, their rotation has clear issues), throwing all your money at one player isn’t the answer.
Well, at least they would have more money to spend beyond signing Soto, even if he costs them over $40M per year.
If they sign him and Snell both, that’s probably all of their money, though. That’s what Ivan and I are both assuming here.
Yes I’m assuming that. Although I suppose they could exceed their historical levels.
Is an average of 3 WAR per position good enough for a playoff-caliber lineup?
If 2 WAR per position is 81 wins (which I think is the case, assuming a similarly average pitching staff), then having eight position players plus a DH worth 3 WAR each would be 90 wins. Seems decently solid to me. The Cardinals made a habit of doing that for almost the entire 2010s decade.