Toronto’s Advantage Against Cleveland

A while back, August Fagerstrom noticed a near-historic aspect of the Cleveland Indians’ offense. They do really well against breaking and offspeed pitches. They led the non-Colorado division of baseball in slugging percentage against those pitches, and they had one of the most extreme splits as an offense against fastballs, as opposed to breaking/offspeed pitches, in the history of baseball. That’s quite a strength.

Of course, it’s a strength that belies a relative weakness on the other side. Take a look at how the Indians ranked in production against fastballs when judged by pitch-type values in the American League this year.

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Cleveland had the seventh-best strikeout rate in the American League. They walked more than any AL team other than Boston, Houston, and Toronto. Their weighted and park-adjusted offense was fourth in their league. Overall, they were a good offense. But they weren’t great against fastballs.

And normally, that might be fine. Everyone has their own way of being good, and this just happens to be the way the Indians are good. But let’s take a look really quickly at the starting rotation of the Toronto Blue Jays, Cleveland’s opponent in the ALCS — because there’s something that Aaron Sanchez, Marcus Stroman, and J.A. Happ (and even Marco Estrada, in his own weird way) have in common: really good fastballs. Oh, and yup, there they are.

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Welp. There are plenty of good fastballs coming to town, and the Indians prefer the bendy, slower pitches.

It’s interesting that these fastballs are so different and yet so excellent. The Blue Jays’ fastballs have been great this year despite a relatively mediocre showing on thei efour-seamers, with which they produced just the 11th-best value mark as a staff — and only 12th-best if you consider just the starters.

The script gets flipped a little if you look at sinkers, though. The rotation recorded the fourth-highest average sinker velocity in the American League, and their sinkers were the fastest relative to their four-seamers, too. If you look at full staffs, the same picture emerges, generally, though the Rangers have a slightly bigger pro-sinker velocity gap.

So the Blue Jays love their sinkers. Their sinkers, as a staff, have more sink than any other in baseball. They are the third-fastest, too. Combine velocity and sink, and it’s tough to barrel up. Their sinkers allowed the lowest launch angle in baseball this year.

Are the Indians just screwed, then? Their Achilles heel shot by the Jays’ sinker arrows? They may have a hard time lifting those sinkers, at least, and so that suggests a difficulty in hitting home runs.

That was never a main strength for this Indians squad, though. They were 18th in baseball at hitting home runs, 10th in the American League, and last among the remaining playoff teams. Rather, they’re generally a speedy team (fastest in the AL and fastest remaining team when judged by base-running runs) that makes the most of its line drives (when judged by batting average on balls in play). Toronto pitchers did allow a decent exit velocity on their sinkers (second-fastest in baseball), so even if the Cleveland batters are unable to produce much loft with their batted balls, they might have a decent opportunity to string together some ground balls that find their way to the outfield and then use their speed to score runs.

It’s not how most playoff teams are succeeding this year — teams are relying on the home run to score runs this October, and the Indians themselves have hit five homers in three games, good for second-best — but it could be a way for Cleveland to succeed despite this bad matchup.





With a phone full of pictures of pitchers' fingers, strange beers, and his two toddler sons, Eno Sarris can be found at the ballpark or a brewery most days. Read him here, writing about the A's or Giants at The Athletic, or about beer at October. Follow him on Twitter @enosarris if you can handle the sandwiches and inanity.

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southie
9 years ago

Auston Matthews is starting game 1 now

radivel
9 years ago
Reply to  southie

Great, the Jays are going to lose 5-4. 🙁

typhill
9 years ago

Hmmm interesting….

But at the same time, the thing is all of those guys except for Sanchez need their secondary pitches for their fastballs to be effective. For example, Estrada’s fastball would be near useless without his great changeup and/or good sequencing; he’s not blowing anyone away on straight fastballs. Correct me if I’m wrong, but teams that struggle against fastballs tend to struggle on faster fastballs (at least from what I’ve seen out of the Yankees) not well placed/good movement fastballs. I think teams that struggle against power fastballs aren’t guaranteed to struggle against a finesse fastball.

Basically, effective/good fastballs do not all fit the same mold. If Cleveland generally struggled against power fastballs I don’t think its fair to assume they’d struggle against all kinds of effective/good fastballs.

Buo
9 years ago
Reply to  typhill

This isn’t necessarily true of Happ. I think he throws 78(?)% fastballs, I don’t remember exactly, but he’s among the league leaders in fastball usage. For example, in his playoff start he really only had his fastball and sinker working, and, while it wasn’t exactly pretty, he got the job done.

myerz
9 years ago
Reply to  Buo

I’d say his fastballs are plenty pretty, he is top 10 in fastball movement in the majors. Which is why he can get away with throwing so many of them.

RotoholicMember since 2016
9 years ago
Reply to  typhill

It’s an interesting theory. You should test it and see the results.

Hugo
9 years ago

Window dressing for baseball nerds. The beauty of the playoffs — none of this matters.

Alex
9 years ago
Reply to  Hugo

Why are you even on fangraphs? Just go watch football it is much simpler.

Dave TMember since 2025
9 years ago
Reply to  Alex

I would upvote the first point from Alex, but have to downvote the second.

I enjoy watching both baseball and football, and it’s crazy to say that football – with play calling, different formations, offensive blocking schemes, pass route combinations, defensive pass coverages, disguised blitzes, etc. – is “much simpler” than baseball.

carterMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  Dave T

” Why are you even on fangraphs? Just go watch football it is much stupider.” Fyp

Unraveller
9 years ago
Reply to  Alex

Agree with first point, couldn’t be more wrong about the second.

tjrl
9 years ago

I’m not sure where the data is that it’s their sinkers and not their fourseams that are doing well. Happ had the second highest wFA in baseball at 23.3, only behind Max Scherzer at 24.4. Marco Estrada was 11th at 11.9. Sanchez was second in wFT at 14.5, only behind Chris Sale at 14.7. Happ was 7th at 8.2.

Stroman posted a 2.7 wFT and a 0.0 wFA, Sanchez had a 3.8 wFA, and Estrada does not throw a sinker. By those numbers, I’m seeing 39 wFA and 25.4 wFT.

tjrl
9 years ago
Reply to  Eno Sarris

Okay. Thank you for the response.

Goldsteins_Tool_Fedora
9 years ago

Im not totally buying this because of the known split of fly ball hitters vs ground ball pitchers. The Indians were one of the teams with the highest fly ball rate in baseball. I expect Chisenhall to take a few deep this series. Even players like JRam and Kipnis, didnt have high gb rates.

Estrada has the advantage obviously with his fb tendencies. The other 3, I can see getting hit.

tfil05
9 years ago

Underestimate your opponents strengths. Smart plan.

Frag
9 years ago

Happ is a lefty who is a FB pitcher, too. I could see the Indians having trouble with him.

Joeys Bat FlipMember since 2025
9 years ago

Game one will be interesting to see. While Estrada’s got good value on his fastball, and uses it roughly half the time, it’s hard to see him not relying on that change up of his, which has brought him the third most value of any pitcher’s change up this year, behind only Hendricks and Price. It’s been the 9th most valuable this year, per pitch thrown.

Maybe he’ll use it less than 28% of the time, which has been his regular usage of that pitch over the last three years. But I doubt it….

Mark Davidson
9 years ago

Damn Eno that was nice!