Travis Sawchik FanGraphs Chat
12:06 |
: Greetings!
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12:08 |
: Looks like there was some issue with the queue prior to the start of the chat almost certainly my fault
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12:08 |
: My apologies. Let’s talk ..
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12:08 |
: Is it shocking to you that Alex Rodriguez is currently more popular than Derek Jeter?
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12:09 |
: ARod’s turnaround as an analyst is a great comeback story
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12:09 |
: I suspect he’s going to have a better run as an analyst than Jeter will as an executive
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12:10 |
: Jon Heyman thinks Ohtani goes to SD… What is your take?
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12:10 |
: San Diego was the big winner Sunday and it looks plausible
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12:11 |
: A former Nippon Ham Fighters trainer is with the club, and it appears Ohtani might prefer a small market on the West Coast
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12:11 |
: And the weather of course … Maybe this was always about the weather
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12:12 |
: If (when) the Cards don’t land Stanton, where do they go next? Assuming they don’t want to pay for a 1 year rental of a 32 year old third baseman (Donaldson), who else could they target? F. Freeman?
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12:13 |
: Donaldson makes a lot of sense … I’d love Freeman in StL
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12:13 |
: Is it just me or does Ohtani not make much sense. He wants to play in a small market but LAD and CHC are in the mix…..
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12:15 |
: It is a little confusing … maybe the preference is to play in a small market but he’s open to being won over by a club during the next phase of recruitment
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12:15 |
: Would the Mariners really consider putting Nelly Cruz in the OF a few times a week to make room for Ohtani? I understand that teams will take every measure necessary to sign the man, but that seems too far
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12:15 |
: Sign Ohtani then worry about everything else
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12:16 |
: New Ohtani odds?
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12:17 |
: Mariners 5-1, Padres 7-1, Angels 8-1, Giants 9-1, Dodgers 10-1, Rangers 12-1, Cubs 20-1
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12:17 |
: What are odds of Giants somehow landing both Ohtani and Stanton ?
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12:18 |
: 40-1
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12:18 |
: What do you think of the Boone signing?
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12:19 |
: A person with zero experience in that position is an interesting choice. I generally like what the Yankees have done since 2016, but this seemed curious
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12:19 |
: Surprised at all the Othani’s final seven?
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12:19 |
: Kate, I thought Ohtani would have a heavy West-coast lean, but I thought the Yankees would still be in the mix
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12:20 |
: Also a bit surprised that there are 4 NL teams on the list
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12:20 |
: I saw in Laurila’s Sunday piece that MLB could eventually have managers who never even played. Works in NBA I suppose and baseball always seems slower to adapt to changes but baseball’s “code” and hierarchy make me think this manager who hasnt ever played would have an uphill battle getting respect from players. What do you think?
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12:20 |
: I think that’s going to happen down the road. After all, we have quite a few GMs running clubs that have never played
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12:21 |
: First rule of Fangraphs: Always blame Cistulli for issues. Question: Rhys Hoskins is a top 5 1B this year, yea or nay?
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12:23 |
: Hoskins was a good chance to be a top 5 first baseman
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12:24 |
: Every time I hear SD I can’t help but think LAA would be the better option in every respect except maybe market-size/media coverage… even then, Mike Trout is on the Angels and he seems to enjoy his peace and quiet.
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12:24 |
: The Angels were my pick for Ohtani in doing what would be best for himself AND MLB
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12:24 |
: I could never blame someone for moving to San Diego, though
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12:25 |
: And while there will be less media coverage in SD, Ohtani is going to be a media circus in 2018 wherever he is
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12:25 |
: I got Big Data Baseball for my brother for Christmas, except now I’m reading it (it’s really good) and with the new crease in the spine it’s gonna look like I just gave him one of my old books
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12:26 |
: Ha. Ed, I won’t tell if you don’t. Thanks for reading!
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12:27 |
: Are Padres really second most likely of 7 remaining? Or just had the biggest jump in odds? I think most people are surprised they’re still in the running, but that doesn’t mean they’re higher than the Angels (e.g.)
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12:27 |
: If he wants a small market on the West coast with familiarity (former Ham Fighter trainer) … then the Padres should be the favorite
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12:28 |
: Is that really what he wants? A small-market on the West Coast? I don’t know. It does seem like he wants to be on the West Coast
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12:28 |
: I think it would be cool if he eliminated one team per day leading into his decision day
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12:29 |
: I dont understand how Altuve consistently has such a high batting average. I realize it’s a wonky stat, but his BABIP has been high every year. He is fast, but all those IFH can’t explain this. He doesn’t hit the ball hard, and although he sprays the ball pretty well, other guys do it much better. Tell me why he consistently has very high averages? Is it that perfect launch angle right above the infielders??
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12:29 |
: It’s a lot of those things adding up … and he has elite zone-contract and swinging strike marks
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12:30 |
: Basically, he makes consistent, quality contact as well as anyone and is one of the fastest RHH in the game
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12:31 |
: How much do you think the threat of a major earthquake in CA will influence Ohtani?
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12:31 |
: He’s lived with that threat his entire life in rural northern Japan
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12:32 |
: If the Cubs land Ohtani are they back on the Dodgers level?
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12:32 |
: It would help close the gap. But Ohtani might need to be a 10-win player to close the entire gap
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12:33 |
: 10-wins is pretty aggressive, right?
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12:33 |
: I have him as a 6- or 7-win, two-way player in 2018
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12:33 |
: Any guesses as to why Oakland didn’t make it an Ohtani eight?
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12:33 |
: Ballpark probably didn’t help
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12:34 |
: Remember, this is a recruitment. Facilities matter!
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12:34 |
: Is Ohtani’s decision the biggest decision since The Decision?
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12:34 |
: I think so. I think Ohtani’s debut season will also be the most interesting in all of US sports since LeBron’s
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12:35 |
: Is the Boys and Girls Club available?
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12:35 |
: True or false: If Ohtani signs with San Diego, the wisest thing the Padres could do from a long-term organizational perspective is trade him before spring training given its place on the win curve.
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12:36 |
: False. In a vacuum you could make that argument but I suspect owners want to sell some tickets and spike TV ratings. Ohtani will be the greatest draw in the sport in 2018 and perhaps beyond. And then there’s the freak talent….
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12:38 |
: Everyone has a trade value but I think you at least have to hang on to Ohtani in 2018 (and for hopefully 10 years beyond that). I’d be looking at him as a top 5 trade value player immediately — and that’s just based on talent, age and contract. Tough to move that.
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12:38 |
: So for the first time in his life Ohtani could get out of an earthquake hot zone, don’t you think he would want to?
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12:39 |
: It’s part of who he is. Living on the edge. Seeking danger.
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12:39 |
: Okay, smart guy: so what would I have to give the Barves to get Tyler Flowers?
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12:40 |
: I assume it would not be cheap … but for a team that is probably more “All in” than most in 2018, I’d go for it
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12:40 |
: Now that teams are out of the Ohtani sweepstakes, do you expect to see the market surge this week?
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12:40 |
: I just don’t see why that would have created a slow market since he’s so cheap …. Unless everyone was busy building presentations to him over the last two weeks
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12:41 |
: What if Ohtani is a huge bust? I really, really hope he destroys the league personally.
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12:42 |
: I think only injury is going to prevent him from being a top-of-the-rotation arm. The bat? The probability of a bust is higher with that skill, but I think he’ll hit
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12:42 |
: The Angels *do* play in a small market–Anaheim is the 56th largest city in the US.
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12:42 |
: Angels might want to note that in their pitch
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12:43 |
: What is your comparison of Ohtani’s batting skills to Bumgarner’s?
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12:43 |
: Much better
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12:44 |
: I know there is some debate about how good the bat is, but the translations love him. 130 wRC+! That’s probably a bit aggrressive
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12:44 |
: Hard to believe a former trainer is going to have much sway on where he goes
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12:45 |
: If he likes his program/thinks he can keep him healthy … it’s not insignificant
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12:45 |
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12:45 |
: Was this video part of the Cubs’ pitch?
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12:45 |
: all the Cubs need do to land Ohtani is to show this opening day HR from Kosuke Fuludome
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12:46 |
: Who do the Rangers grab next if they get Ohtani and want to go with a 6-man rotation?
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12:46 |
: Darvish?
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12:46 |
: If Ohtani is doesn’t pitch like Kershaw and hit like Mike Trout, is he a failure?
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12:46 |
: Well, if the expectation is he’s going to be a 16-win player out of the gate …. He will fail
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12:47 |
: Was it K. Law who said he had an 80 on Ohtani’s speed?
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12:48 |
: I thought I read that he has been clocked at 3.8 to first?
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12:48 |
: He can fly
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12:48 |
: Unreal talent
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12:48 |
: Three teams didn’t respond to the 7 question memo, Marlins among them. Who do you think are the other two and what the hell is wrong with them?
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12:49 |
: What are the Marlins doing exactly?
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12:49 |
: Cervelli a fir for Washington?
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12:50 |
: Those DL trips and contract are an issue, but I’d like the skill-set there
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12:50 |
: Out of curiosity, which of the final 7 do you think would give Ohtani’s bat the longest leash? Padres?.. Could be another factor
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12:51 |
: I still think the AL gives Ohtani a longer leash with the bat
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12:52 |
: Ohtani is still a young kid. Think any work has been done on his parents as part of the recruitment process? The only other situation in which a kid under 25 has all his major sports options open is college football/bball recruitment, and parents are often heavily involved.
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12:52 |
: It’s said in college football that to win the kid you win the mom … I have no idea if that’s the case here, but if his parents are playing a role than the Rangers, I suspect, know him, best
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12:52 |
: How unlikely is it that a country like japan where baseball is smaller (albeit still very popular) can produce a talent such as ohtani. You’d figure the U.S. could develop a player such as Ohtani, or is this one of those things where we are just being graced with a generational player.
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12:54 |
: Ohtani is more likely to happen in the U.S. than Japan, but he’s a once-in-a-100-year flood. So it’s just kind of random. Over the next 1,000 years we will have more Ohtanis from the US than Japan. … Unless sports/position specialization is a limiting factor
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12:54 |
: What happens first? Browns finally win a damn game or Jake Arrieta signs?
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12:54 |
: Arrieta signs
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12:55 |
: Think the LOS ANGELES Angels pivot their presentation and try to sell Ohtani on the fact that he wouldn’t *really* be playing in LA? And that even the best player in the world can largely fly under the radar playing there?
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12:57 |
: Which teams would Travis Sawchik, new GM, immediately tear down and rebuild (excluding teams as lready rebuilding)?
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12:57 |
: Couldn’t hurt!
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12:58 |
: I should probably give this some deeper thought, but Toronto and Tampa in the East have some assets to sell off and are kind of caught in-between at the moment.
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12:58 |
: Mets could be an interesting sell case
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12:59 |
: Isn’t it kind of ridiculous that we are trying to assign odds here? Until 5pm yesterday, the Yankees were the clear favorite.
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12:59 |
: We have a lot more information today than we did 36 hours ago
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12:59 |
: And, hey, it’s fun
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12:59 |
: I don’t think a player like Ohtani would happen in the US, I think there are talented enough players but teams/coaches will make a player choose pitching or hitting before before too long
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1:01 |
: That’s true. But Ohtani could have an impact on changing that
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1:01 |
: Does Ohtani to a NL team push the DH narrative toward full adoption? Not
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1:01 |
: I’d prefer full abolishment
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1:01 |
: Why do the rangers know him best?
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1:01 |
: They’ve scouted him the longest and tried to get him to sign out of high school
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1:02 |
: You’d rebuild the Orioles I’m sure
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1:02 |
: Orioles, too. But I would have started two years ago
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1:03 |
: Machado and Britton have lost so much trade value
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1:03 |
: Did you see the quote by Ohtani when asked ” What are the benchmarks by which you will measure your career when it’s over?” Ohtani replied ” Of course, awards and milestones, but how much applause and love I get when I announce my retirement will be a good measure.” The man doesn’t care about winning…
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1:03 |
: San Diego is now the clear favorite
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1:04 |
: Hunter Greene’s already switched to pitching full-time, though…
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1:04 |
: I see he did announce that in Sept …
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1:05 |
: How many hours do you think the other 23 teams spent on a pitch to Ohtani, only to be thrown out before even getting to meet with him?
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1:05 |
: Hundreds of man-hours, but you have to do it
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1:06 |
: Well, unless you’re MIA/BAL/ATL
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1:07 |
: Dodgers tried signing Otani out of HS just like the Rangers, FWIW
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1:08 |
: It’s the Mariners, right? It was always going to be the Mariners? And the rest of this is just a show?
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1:08 |
: Not if he’s aware of the Mariners’ travel miles per season
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1:11 |
: How much of the pitches are going to be about why he shouldn’t sign with other teams?
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1:11 |
: Negative recruiting attacks!
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1:11 |
: I think most focus will be on selling their own teams
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1:11 |
: If the Ohtani sweepstakes was an episode of Mad Men, which would it be? Chevy? Heniz? Do the Mariners and Padres merge and create a superteam to land Ohtani?
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1:12 |
: I think it would when Don decided to move out to California
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1:12 |
: America cannot develop a player like Ohtani because all of the ones that have that athleticism go to play football. Once the NFL dies, we will see more.
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1:12 |
: Youth football participation is down, baseball is up …
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1:12 |
: Best news yesterday, Ohtani not going to New York. Hopefully next year we get the same news about Bryce Harper
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1:13 |
: Bryce Harper to San Diego
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1:13 |
: Assuming Cubs miss out on Otani, what’s their move for front-line SP? Sign Darvish? Tradefor
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1:13 |
: Cubs need a big-time arm and bullpen help. I’d take a long look at Darvish
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1:13 |
: If Ohtani & Stanton both land in LA do the Dodgers become a decent team?
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1:14 |
: Let me think about this …
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1:14 |
: Why don’t any Japanese players come stateside out of HS (or even earlier like non-PR Latin American players)?
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1:15 |
: That’s a good question. A few Asian players have, like Choo, but I think there is pressure to stay … and it’s probably hard to make that leap to a new culture at 18 for many
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1:15 |
: You want to watch pitchers hit???? eww
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1:15 |
: I want more decisions, quicker games, and head-hunting pitchers to have to step in the box
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1:16 |
: have a hypothetical… If the Cards don’t get Stanton and trade for Donaldson, if January comes around and the price for Hosmer drops below $90 MM, would the Cards be in on the bidding?
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1:16 |
: I’d want Hosmer on a short-term deal, not sure about the Cards. The price would have to drop lower for me
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1:16 |
: Alright folks, thanks for attending!
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1:17 |
: I have to go create more Ohtani content because you demand it as Ad-free members
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1:17 |
: Until next week (when the FG team will be at the winter meetings) be good and do good
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A Cleveland native, FanGraphs writer Travis Sawchik is the author of the New York Times bestselling book, Big Data Baseball. He also contributes to The Athletic Cleveland, and has written for the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, among other outlets. Follow him on Twitter @Travis_Sawchik.
Anybody else do a double take when Travis said “I want more decisions, quicker games.”