Wait, That Guy Isn’t a Lefty?

A friend was asking a question about matchups in the coming month, and was talking about lefties and how Houston has done against lefties and maybe he should start A.J. Griffin against them and so on. I was playing along, pointing out that maybe it wasn’t a great matchup because Houston has a good lineup and they’re in a park that’s good for offense and all that. I didn’t even blink.

Of course, Griffin is a righty. No idea why we both thought he was a lefty, but we’re not alone. A quick Twitter poll — results below! — revealed Griffin as a top contender for “righty we most think is a lefty.”

Unfortunately, none of us know why we mentally mistake hands on some players. Or at least, we don’t have a quick answer to that question, other than vague references to arsenal (“crafty”), temperament (“different personalities”), or television time (“I don’t see them much”). Most responses to the poll included an “I don’t know why” of some sort.

Still, it’s something we do. And it’s sort of fascinating, because lefty starters do actually do things a little differently than righty starters — things we can actually define objectively. Which means we can apply the statistical definition of a lefty starter to the righty-starter population. And we can answer this question with stats!

So… which righty really acts the most like a lefty? Which righty is the most lefty-like? Turns out, it’s not Griffin, but the wisdom of the crowd was not far off, really.

Let’s define lefty starters against righty starters. I’ve done most of the work from a different vantage point before, so here’s that work re-summarized for the benefit of our question today.

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Lefty starters:

  • Throw softer on average, by a mile per hour (91 mph).
  • Throw more changeups (16% vs. 10%).
  • Throw more four-seamers than sinkers (38% to 24%).
  • Using that rubric, we can already narrow the pool of right-handed starters to our main contenders for Secret Lefties.

    Righty Starters with Lefty Arsenals
    Name IP FBv FA% FT% FA-FT FC% SL% CU% CH%
    Jered Weaver 150.1 82.8 17% 15% 2% 0% 18% 21% 30%
    Dan Straily 154.0 89.3 47% 4% 43% 0% 25% 5% 18%
    Jeremy Hellickson 154.0 90.1 28% 23% 5% 0% 9% 16% 24%
    James Shields 149.0 90.4 27% 17% 10% 18% 0% 16% 22%
    Chase Anderson 124.1 91.0 49% 9% 41% 4% 0% 13% 25%
    Mike Fiers 144.0 89.6 44% 0% 44% 14% 5% 18% 19%
    Marco Estrada 144.1 88.1 39% 0% 39% 20% 0% 10% 31%
    Minimum 100 IP thrown in 2016
    Minimum 10% changeups thrown, maximum 91 mph fastball velocity, four seamers > sinker usage.

    Just by asking which pitchers throw a ton of changeups, don’t have a ton of velocity, and prefer four-seamers to sinkers, we have an interesting collection of pitchers.

    But! Mike Fiers throws a split-finger change. Perhaps because of the mechanics of the pitch, it’s not the favorite of lefty starters. Jorge de la Rosa and now Ariel Miranda are the only starters on the PITCHf/x leaderboard who are listed as throwing one regularly, and though Tony Sipp throws one, there aren’t a ton of relievers either. Let’s take Fiers out.

    Marco Estrada really prefers his four-seamer to his sinker. To the point that he doesn’t throw a sinker at all. That seems weird. A lefty without a sinker? Let’s take Estrada out.

    We’re still left without an obvious way to to cull the rest of the list. Except! Lefties are thought to “sling” the ball more across their body, with lower release points. The average movement by pitch type for lefties and righties is different. And there’s a pattern to their difference: lefties get more horizontal movement, and less vertical movement, than their righty counterparts.

    Movement Difference Between Lefties & Righties
    Pitch Type x diff y diff
    Four-Seam 1.3 -0.5
    Two-Seam 1.4 -0.7
    Sinker 1.4 -1.5
    Cutter 2.0 0.1
    Split Finger 1.6 0.2
    Slider 1.7 -0.2
    Changeup 2.2 -1.0
    Knuckle Curve 2.6 -1.5
    Curve 2.1 -0.7
    Difference between average movement (inches) between lefties and righties on each pitch type
    Positive difference means more drop or fade.

    In particular, lefty changeups and sinkers are more tilt than drop. Now let’s revisit our group of pitchers, and sort for sinker fade. It all comes together.

    Righties with Lefty Arsenals, Sorted by Lefty Movement
    Name Sinker x Sinker y Changeup x Changeup y
    Jeremy Hellickson -9.6 6.9 -6.9 5.7
    Chase Anderson -8.0 7.8 -9.3 7.8
    Dan Straily -7.9 6.6 -6.1 1.9
    James Shields -7.2 7.0 -7.5 5.2
    Jered Weaver -6.2 9.1 -4.6 9.3

    By this definition, Dan Straily has too much drop on his changeup to be our secret lefty. James Shields and Jered Weaver not enough fade, maybe. Plus, we’ve seen a lot of Shields and Weaver over the years, no?

    Chase Anderson was my secrete favorite going into this exercise. Turns out, the Twitter and Slack populations liked him as a lefty, too. Here are the righties that received more than two “That Guy’s Not a Lefty?” votes from the crowd.

    And they were right! The crowd lined up with our numbers in a lot of ways. Along with Jeremy Hellickson, Anderson has the arsenal most like a lefty’s in baseball.

    It’s okay if you get it wrong in the future, then. You’ll probably get it right eventually, though it’s worth pointing out that Max Scherzer, Greg Maddux, and Tim Lincecum each got a vote as screw lefty. Sometimes those crossed synapses harden into place. Sometimes a righty is a lefty forever in your brain, no matter what he throws.





    With a phone full of pictures of pitchers' fingers, strange beers, and his two toddler sons, Eno Sarris can be found at the ballpark or a brewery most days. Read him here, writing about the A's or Giants at The Athletic, or about beer at October. Follow him on Twitter @enosarris if you can handle the sandwiches and inanity.

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    HappyFunBallMember since 2019
    9 years ago

    Good stuff! How about as a historical exercise? It’s not impressive to call someone a member of the Chase Anderson All Stars. It just isn’t. We need a recognizable name for this group of soft-tossing slop throwers.

    BipMember since 2016
    9 years ago
    Reply to  HappyFunBall

    The greatest “righty that i remember as a lefty” of all time, for me, is Jim Palmer.

    Matt
    9 years ago

    Without knowing anything about his arsenal, the name “AJ Griffin” just sounds like a lefty to me. No clue why.

    Otherwise, when I read the post, I thought it would be about guys like Trumbo and Turner who are acting like lefties, putting up .900+ OPS marks against righties and .645 marks against lefties.

    JoserMember since 2021
    9 years ago
    Reply to  Matt

    And then there’s Ichiro, the secret rightie: over ten thousand plate appearances (6892 against RHP, 2791 against LHP) he has amassed 99 wRC+ (.321 wOBA) against opposite-handed pitching and 115 wRC+ (.344 wOBA) against same-handed pitchers. A decade and a half ago it amused me to see opposing managers bring in a LOOGY against him, and they sometimes still do it.

    Clock
    9 years ago

    I thought Alex Cobb was a lefty for the looongest time

    LHPSU
    9 years ago
    Reply to  Clock

    Raise your hand if you saw this comment, did a double-take and immediately went to look up Alex Cobb’s page.

    FrancoLuvHateMets
    9 years ago
    Reply to  Clock

    Something about TB pitchers for me, I would’ve sworn Cobb was a lefty until this comment. And I thought Hellickson was a lefty until the Phillies signed him.

    Buo
    9 years ago

    I honestly had no idea Rick Porcello was right-handed. The more you know.

    BipMember since 2016
    9 years ago
    Reply to  Buo

    Darren O’Day for me. I could have sworn…

    Vince Clortho
    9 years ago
    Reply to  Buo

    I think I’ve watched at least half of Rick’s starts this year and I still get confused

    dl80Member since 2026
    9 years ago

    Hansel Robles’s splits make him seem like he must be a lefty.

    burts_beadsMember since 2025
    9 years ago

    It wasn’t until sometime earlier this year that I realized Fister and Shields were not lefties. I thought they were for years.

    Raoul RaoulMember since 2017
    9 years ago

    I just watched a few innings of Anthony DeSclafani pitching against the Mets just an hour ago, and I would have bet good company scrip on DeSclafani being a lefty. It wouldn’t have crossed my mind that he wasn’t.

    Slappy McSlapperson
    9 years ago

    Random and probably pointless thought, but I think generally when I confuse righties for lefties, they always seem to have an L in their name. To wit, when I started reading this my secret favorites were desclafani and derek holland (who, it turns out, actually is a lefty). Love this

    BipMember since 2016
    9 years ago

    Interesting that lefties have a lower arm slot. It’s a fascinating combination of things at work, I think:

    Low-slot righties are totally helpless against LHB, which probably keeps a lot of them from the majors. Low-slot lefties aren’t quite as bad against RHB probably, one because RHB see fewer LH sidearmers than LHB see RH sidearmers, and also becuase RHB are more often selected for having smaller platoon splits, whereas LHB get survive purely as righty-mashers.

    For related reasons, LHB are generally worse against LHP than RHB are against RHP, meaning teams can better justify having low-slot LOOGYs on the roster than ROOGYs.

    BipMember since 2016
    9 years ago
    Reply to  Eno Sarris

    I would think throwing “across” your body has some relationship to arm angle. The more sideways-oriented the arm, the more sideways the follow-through, since ultimately the arm is just rotating around an axis. I don’t know if throwing “across” the body is distinct from the angle of the follow-through.

    As far as why coaches allow it, I would think it is for the aforementioned reasons: it messes with LHB more than the RHP-vs-RHB version, and it also is ok against RHB since RHB don’t see a whole lot of low-arm lefties anyway, so they aren’t as comfortable with it as they would be if they saw it more.

    TKDCMember since 2016
    9 years ago

    Billy Wagner: also not a lefty

    some guy
    9 years ago
    Reply to  TKDC

    I love that so few people have “liked” this.

    ec113
    9 years ago

    I thought while reading this, “Chase Anderson isn’t a lefty?” Then I realized I was thinking of Brett Anderson. The name matters.

    Joe Joe
    9 years ago

    So basically, LMJ, when healthy, is the only starter for Houston that pitches like a righty. Too much 2015 Keuchel envy.

    MikeSMember since 2020
    9 years ago

    With just a little less hard data, this would have been a great Notgraphs post.

    MustBunique
    9 years ago

    Harang. I know he didn’t pitch this year, but he was always a lefty to me.

    Slacker GeorgeMember since 2016
    9 years ago

    I’d love to see this blog post done POLITIGRAPHS. Imagine the traffic!

    DDMember since 2020
    9 years ago

    Also Eno, the initial group you determined has a significant issue with HRs. That makes sense since they throw slow fourseamers and need to locate their offspeed stuff well, and by my recollection throw a lot of fastballs up in the zone.

    chavezfanMember since 2021
    9 years ago

    My number one is easily Dillon Gee, simply because I always mix up Gee and Niese.

    Dolemite
    9 years ago

    Pat Venditte?