Well-Preserved
Comparison of two players at the same position:
Player A hit .239/.340/.442 with 25 home runs for a .346 wOBA while playing +10 defense.
Player B hit .250/.342/.452 with 24 home runs for a .346 wOBA while playing +9.5 defense.
Quite similar. They walk almost equally as often (12.3% for A, 11.9% for B), neither has a good average, although that hardly matters, of course. They have similar power. If you didn’t know that they played good defense, you’d be tempted to say that they had “old player skills,” just from the three slash.
I won’t pretend this is a big surprise: both players are Mike Cameron. Player A is the 29-year-old Cameron of 2002, and Player B is the 36-year-old Mike Cameron of 2009. Mike Cameron has been good, there’s no doubt about that, so I won’t go on about it. It’s his aging — or, more precisely, his seeming lack thereof — that is so striking. A graph of Cameron’s seasonal wOBAs is representative:

That is remarkably stable since 1999. Many of his other graphs have a similar shape.
Cameron’s UZR varies more year-to-year than his offensive stats, but that’s the nature of defensive metrics in general. And his truly down years according to UZR are in his injury-shortened 2005 with the Mets and his two seasons in San Diego. It’s also worth nothing that while Cameron has often been called “injury prone,” starting in 1998 he’s played 140+ games every season except 2005 and 2008.
One might be tempted to say that “you know what you’re going to get with Mike Cameron” after all these years: low batting average, good power, good walks, many strikeouts, 20+ homers, good defense in center field, and until 2009, a decent number of steals. But we aren’t talking about a player’s 25-32 seasons; in Cameron’s case, we’re talking about a period that’s almost completely made up of his thirties, when most players are declining. Looking at Cameron’s numbers, the only real change to be seen in recent years is that he attempts fewer stolen bases, and that is a very recent development (2009).
I don’t think it really means anything, to be honest. I’m just amazed that Mike Cameron has been able to go out every year and put up four-plus win seasons, one after the other (with a few exceptions) in the part of his career when many would be slowly dropping out of baseball. Of course, players being productive in their thirties and even forties isn’t unheard of, but many of them were great players to begin with, so their decline phases could still be very great. Of course, not everyone ages the same. Some players were more productive in their thirties — Honus Wagner comes to mind. But again, while Cameron is a good player, no one would put him on Wanger’s level. Like Wagner and other productive “old” players, Cameron’s athleticism is well-renowned, and that certainly makes a difference.
But Cameron is an exception, not the rule. We shouldn’t take his singular case as a “refutation” of what we know about player aging. CHONE expects a pretty big offensive drop-off to a .317 wOBA, while ZiPS sees more of the same, projecting another .346 for Cameron in 2010. But projection systems (rightly) work off of general rules. Who knows? So far, though, Mike Cameron’s play through his thirties brings to mind the following (incredibly nerdy) lines from the first chapter of Tolkien’s Fellowship of the Ring:
Time wore on, but it seemed to have little effect on Mr. Baggins. At ninety he was much the same as at fifty. At ninety-nine they began to call him well-preserved, but unchanged would have been nearer the mark.
Matt Klaassen reads and writes obituaries in the Greater Toronto Area. If you can't get enough of him, follow him on Twitter.
So you’re saying that the one true ring is really just a bottle of greenies?
i keed, i keed.
Amazing a bigger deal hasn’t been made out of the Sox collecting Mitchell Report players…
As long as we’re doing all the childish remarks in one thread.
“no on would put him on Wangers level.” hahaha
The real problem is Cameron’s reliance on a substance as hackneyed as ‘Unobtainium”
I’m a Brewers fan, and I’m moving to Boston this summer, so damn, do I love me some Mike Cameron.
That’s all I have to say.
One wOBA to rule them all? (In Cameron’s case)
Sean Smith gives him 46 career WAR. Not bad for a guy who has never been widely viewed as a star.
He’s kind of like a Hank Aaron player in terms of that; not that he’s anywhere near Aaron’s level, but in the sense of being a guy who consistently puts up good numbers for a long time, rather than having crazy good seasons then declining.
It’s weird that he’s been essentially the same player for so many years. If he loses that power, though, his offense will be putrid because he was never a good hitter. I think it’s amazing that he’s been such a good center fielder for so many years, usually defense is the first thing to go. He never was, and never will be, a big time difference maker, but I think every team can use a player like him in their outfield.
Hey, four win players don’t grow on trees!
Unless that’s how the Rays and Rockies do it…
One thing Jack Zduriencik has said about Cameron (and he’s a huge fan of his) is that every team he has joined has improved when he got there and every team he has left has regressed when he left. That’s a lot of teams by now and while he was clearly not the only factor, it’s hard to deny that he was not a negligible factor. Turning your centerfield into a “no hits zone” is a good thing.
I’ll note that the reason he failed to play 140 games in 2008 was also not injury-related; 162 minus 25 equals 137.
Does anyone think he deserves HoF consideration? I know he’s not there, but should he sniff it?
I love me some Mike Cameron, but he’d have to play until he was 45 to sniff the HoF.
That said, he’s a charter member of the Hall of Really Good, along with Ray Lankford.
On of my favorite players. Letting Cameron walk ranks up there with dumb M’s FO moves along with Jones et al for Bedard, Cabrera+Choo for Perez+Broussard (two different deals), and the Sliva contract.
Mike Cameron appears to be a Highly Gifted Hitter.
Hey fellas, is it relevant that Cameron’s abdominal cavity is imploding on a cosmic level? How does that correlate to Boston’s late demise? You’ll have to forgive me, I went to Music School.
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