What Will the Brewers Do If There’s No MeatWaste?

With the NL playoff bracket basically settled (a statement I could live to regret if the Mets keep losing), I’ve started to think about how the various participants match up against each other. Not only did five of these six teams make the playoffs last year, all of those five have made it to October at least three times in the past four postseasons. The Cubs — a recidivist NLCS participant in the mid-2010s who last made the postseason in 2020 — are the closest thing we have to new blood.
Absent some shocking reversal of fortune in the next two weeks, we’re in for an October of sequels. But while there’s often at least one standout team in the bracket — usually the Dodgers, but not always — this year the top six teams in the NL seem fairly evenly matched. At least, every team has flaws.
The most interesting team, at least to me, is the presumptive no. 1 seed: the Milwaukee Brewers. As much of a postseason fixture as the Brewers have become, and as many early-round thrills as they’ve delivered, they’ve only bothered the NLCS once in the past decade, out of six trips to the playoffs.
This year’s Brewers, like most editions of this club, have been aggressive and resourceful and buckets of fun. Having traded away a cavalcade of important pitchers over the past few years, they’ve pulled replacements from the very living Earth, or so it seems. They’ve beaten the brakes off of the NL Central, and produced two discrete double-digit winning streaks in a six-week span. Quibble with how they look on paper, if you must, but their accomplishments this year are the best in baseball.
And yet!
While reserving moral judgment on the legality of sports betting in general, I will say that sportsbook odds can sometimes be illuminating. Vegas oddsmakers are not only trying to predict what will happen, they’re trying to predict what the public thinks will happen, in order to entice them to put money down.
So if you look at the NL pennant odds as an indicator of public sentiment, it’s interesting to note that the Brewers, who have a 98.2% chance to earn a bye by our playoff odds and a comfortable lead for home-field advantage throughout the playoffs, are only the third-favorite club for the NL pennant.
Is that just coastal elite arrogance, as bettors flock to the big names and high payrolls of the Dodgers and Phillies? Probably a little. But we’ve seen the limits of how far the Brewers can get on Midwestern pluck, thrift, and guile. And many of us have been burned before.
Or at least I have. The last time I had any confidence in my World Series pick was 2021, when I was dazzled — as in stupefied, it turns out — by the Brewers’ pitching staff and picked them to win the hunk of metal. In my defense, the pitching was as advertised, but Milwaukee’s offense managed just six runs in a four-game NLCS (including two shutouts) against eventual champion Atlanta.
It’s the kind of thing that makes you not trust a team. The Brewers have won two games, total, in their past five postseason appearances. Every season is a clean slate, and as much as we shouldn’t hold the 2025 Brewers accountable for sins committed by previous rosters, I think it’s fair to be skeptical of their ability to put together a playoff run (i.e. win a round) until they prove they can do it.
Do the Brewers owe their record to beating up on bad teams? To an extent. Certainly, they have beaten up on bad teams: 44-22 against sub-.500 opposition, the best record in baseball. The mere fact that they’ve played 66 games against losing teams helps; the Yankees have only played 47.
But the Brewers have beaten up on everyone. Their record against teams with winning records is 45-36, which trails only the Phillies, and only by a few percentage points. They’ve won the season series against eight of the 11 other teams currently in playoff position, with three games against the Padres still outstanding. They swept the season series against the Dodgers.
These are, ultimately, banalities. Forced to articulate a specific mechanism that I worry might let Milwaukee down in October, I would say the following: The Brewers are, for my money, the best team in the majors at the fundamentals. Especially their position players.
Milwaukee is sixth in the league in defensive value and first in baserunning value. They have the lowest chase rate of any position player group in the majors. Their lineup has only one player (Joey Ortiz) whom I’d describe as anything approaching an easy out; the Brewers have 10 players with a .720 OPS or better in 100 or more plate appearances this year, the most in baseball. (The Phillies, by comparison, have only six. The Dodgers and Padres have seven apiece.)
But four of the five other teams currently occupying an NL playoff position have at least two qualified hitters with a better wRC+ than the Brewers’ leader in that category, Christian Yelich.
The Brewers put pressure on opposing teams. They punish others’ mistakes while making few of their own. They will make you beat them. That’s huge. It’s how you put up the best record in baseball over the course of a season.
I have no doubt that this will continue in the playoffs. I am reasonably confident that the Brewers will not suffer the kind of embarrassing team-wide collapse that hit the Phillies in the first round last year or the Dodgers in 2023.
The big question is whether the Brewers’ opponent — whoever that is — will make enough mistakes for Milwaukee to keep this run going deep into October.
I started thinking about this while writing about Jakob Marsee, the Miami Marlins rookie who came up to the majors and beat the almighty hell out of average and bad pitching in the first three weeks of his career. Still is, in fact; as I write, Marsee’s career wRC+ is 162.
At the time, I wrote that Marsee could have a long career ahead of him as the contraction of the minor leagues and draft, along with ever-present injuries, water down the lower middle class of big league pitching. And I mentioned Isaac Collins as another player who could profit under similar circumstances.
The thing is, how many bad pitchers are you going to see in the playoffs?
Without adjusting for quality of pitcher or sequencing or quality of stuff, there are two spots where pitchers generally don’t want to throw the ball. The first is dead-center of the strike zone, where the league as a whole is hitting .329/.326/.601 this season. Baseball Savant, which is ordinarily not a fountain of hyperbolic nomenclature, calls these pitches “Meatballs.”
The other bad place is way outside the zone; “Waste” pitches, in the same site’s terminology. These pitches miss the zone by at least 12 inches vertically and/or 13.3 inches horizontally, and therefore have almost no chance of being hit or even generating a swing. Batters have a .671 OBP on pitches in the waste zone this season. The Brewers are ninth overall in team wOBA, but they’re third in wOBA against waste pitches and sixth (and three points out of fourth) in wOBA against meatballs.
During the regular season, hitters face a cornucopia of pitchers, effective and otherwise. In the postseason, not only do we lose the bottom 60% of the league, those good teams try to devote as much of their meaningful innings as possible to their top handful of arms. It would stand to reason that hitters who wait to punish mistakes would have to wait longer against better pitchers.
Let’s see if that’s true. In combining these two accursed pitch locations, meatball and waste, we invite a portmanteau to describe the whole set. That’s right, MeatWaste%. Sounds gross. I like it.
| Season | Regular Season | Playoffs | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Year | Meatball% | Waste% | MeatWaste% | Meat% | Waste% | MeatWaste% |
| 2021 | 7.4 | 8.9 | 16.3 | 7.3 | 9.8 | 17.1 |
| 2022 | 7.3 | 8.5 | 15.8 | 7.0 | 9.5 | 16.5 |
| 2023 | 7.4 | 8.6 | 16.0 | 7.0 | 8.3 | 15.3 |
| 2024 | 7.5 | 8.4 | 15.9 | 6.8 | 9.6 | 16.4 |
| 2025 | 7.8 | 7.8 | 15.6 | n/a | n/a | n/a |
In general, the playoffs see about the same percentage of MeatWaste pitches as the regular season. But postseason baseball isn’t all Garrett Crochet carving up opposing lineups like corned beef in a deli slicer. You also get no. 7 relievers just trying to stay above water for an inning, or Brent Honeywell wearing it in a World Series blowout. Hitting mistakes in those situations is important, but it’s not where you get the most bang for your buck, leverage-wise. Do pitchers locate better when the game is close?
| Margin | <=3 Runs | <=2 Runs | <=1 Run | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Season | Meat% | Waste% | MeatWaste% | Meat% | Waste% | MeatWaste% | Meat% | Waste% | MeatWaste% |
| 2021 | 5.6 | 7.6 | 13.2 | 4.8 | 6.4 | 11.2 | 3.3 | 4.9 | 8.2 |
| 2022 | 5.5 | 8.0 | 13.5 | 4.7 | 7.2 | 11.9 | 3.6 | 5.4 | 9.0 |
| 2023 | 4.9 | 6.2 | 11.1 | 4.5 | 5.0 | 9.5 | 2.6 | 3.2 | 5.8 |
| 2024 | 5.6 | 8.0 | 13.6 | 3.9 | 6.4 | 10.3 | 3.4 | 4.9 | 8.3 |
You bet they do. If a playoff game is tied or has a margin of one run, there’s only single-digit MeatWaste.
So, yeah, there are fewer mistakes in the postseason. If you wait for a pitcher to beat himself, you might wait so long you end up on the golf course.
I’m sure everyone is shocked and invigorated by this revelation, that the pitching gets tougher in high-leverage playoff situations, but at least I got to make up a new stat with an off-putting name. Go Brewers.
Michael is a writer at FanGraphs. Previously, he was a staff writer at The Ringer and D1Baseball, and his work has appeared at Grantland, Baseball Prospectus, The Atlantic, ESPN.com, and various ill-remembered Phillies blogs. Follow him on Twitter, if you must, @MichaelBaumann.
This was routinely a criticism of various Oakland A’s playoff teams of the 2000’s as one of the ways to explain their many postseason failures. That they beat up on bad pitchers and struggled against good ones. I wonder how those teams measure up.
It seems like a valid criticism in theory, but surely it must apply to every team to some extent, right? Would be curious to see if you went back over the top offensive teams, how many managed an above-average batting line against some definition of the “best pitchers.”
Szymborski pointed out the other day that there’s a (very slight) correlation between teams that rely on homers and overperforming in the playoffs (I think I got that right!).
If so, maybe it’s because of this “best pitchers” theory. If you score more of your runs from homers, against the best pitchers, you’re more likely to score a run with their mistakes. So maybe it applies to every team, but not uniformly?
Wish someone could go back in time and remind the 2023 Braves in the NLDS that they hit a bunch of homers…
This idea got me thinking, does anyone here know if the proportion for runs scored via homers changes from the regular season to the postseason? I know that there are probably some small sample size issues when doing this type of comparison, but I’d still be interested in seeing how this played out. For example, say in the regular season in 2023 and 2024 that 40% of runs scored came via homers, in the 2023 and 2024 postseason did homers still score 40% of runs, or did they score 42% or 36%?
I dont know where to find the numbers, but I believe it is substantially higher in the post season. That makes sense because pitching is better, so scoring in general is down and it becomes harder to get 3 singles. So even if HR don’t go up, non-HR runs go down a lot.
Hitting is also better, which usually means HR hitters these days.
I also remember articles around here that show the things that correlate best with post season success are pitchers that strike guys out and hitters that hit HR.
But like you said, the sample sizes are small enough that it becomes difficult to prove statistical significance.
2000-2003 A’s record in games started by
Roger Clemens 3-0
Pedro Martinez 1-1
Andy Pettitte 1-1
OTOH
Brad Radke 0-2
Orlando Hernandez 0-2
Mike Mussina 0-1
They seem about right against good pitchers, 5-7. They were 3-5 in the other games
If you are looking for a place turning meatwaste into delightful sausage, Wisconsin is a good place to start.
They would eat them in Milwaukee
What’s the regular season MeatWaste% by game state? Seems like in the regular season you’d also expect teams to use worse pitchers in garbage time.
(If I had to hazard a guess, it’d be that you see pitching improve the most in the postseason when a team is down ~2 runs; in the regular season teams trailing by a little often will save their closer or whoever for another day, in the playoffs, there’s few or no other days coming up, and more rest days before the next game anyway.)
came here to say the same thing. That final chart means nothing w/o comparing it to regular season splits. honestly this whole article’s point doesn’t stand up w/o that analysis. it could be right! it could be wrong! we don’t know.
I don’t understand how the numbers in the two charts can both be correct. In the Overall Meatwaste % chart, for every playoff season from 2021-24, the total Meatwaste % is between 15.3 and 17.1. But for the Meatwaste By
Game State chart, there is not a single game state where the Meatwaste % is greater than 13.6%. How can this be?
The game state chart only goes up to a 3 run differential. As stated in the article, more MeatWaste(tm) happens in blowouts.
Okay, I misunderstood the second chart.
But I’m also curious about the question raised above, which is how the Meatwaste % by game state in playoffs compares to regular season Meatwaste % by game state.
I’m also not sure what if anything this means for the Brewers, but maybe Michael’s conclusion means, probably nothing?
I do feel like spending too much time on dissecting the miniscule splits of postseason baseball in the search of some determining factor (positive or negative) is a fool’s errand. Baseball, in many ways, is a sport born of chaos, where order only really starts to emerge from the marathon sample that is the regular season.
I think, outside of clear mismatches, betting on playoff baseball is a great way to watch yourself lose money in real time.
Even then, ZiPS thought the biggest “mismatch” in last year’s postseason was Phillies-Mets!
The Brewers’ recent playoff history would look much different if Hader didn’t give up a 3-1 9th inning lead to the Nationals, and Devin Williams didn’t lose a 2-0 9th inning lead to the Mets last year.
I’ve only every bet on sports a small handful of times and by far the biggest one was the Dodgers to win 2017 WS Game 7
Interesting how different sources can vary so much. If I go to major league search on baseball savant and search by attack zones the numbers are very different than in the article.
Heart – .354 wOBA (17th)
Shadow – .280 wOBA (4th)
Chase – .337 wOBA (1st)
Waste – .527 wOBA (3rd)
The Brewers lead MLB in both bunts and infield hits by a large margin. They have a lot of 90+% sprint speed players, and infield hits tend to be on soft grounders. And then it’s also a group of players that don’t chase often.
They sort of remind me of the 1982-87 Cardinals. Defense and baserunning were the strengths and few HR.
Brewers should push the baserunning advantage. In NLDS Kelly and Fermin are decent at throwing but both OF seem just OK. Tatis is known for his arm.
The meat packing industry’s term for MeatWaste in Pink Slime
As an avid Brewers viewer I’ve been asking myself a similar opportunism-based question all season, not one of pitching mistakes but of defense. The Crew has been fine vs elite SP, busting up Skenes twice and winning season series against many pitching-strong teams (Reds, Dodgers, Mariners, Phillies, Tigers, Royals, etc). Anecdotally, however, I can’t recall a season in which my team’s opponent crapped the bed in the field so often, especially in leverage moments leading to game-tilting runs. I don’t know if there a way to obtain those data splits.
If true, the optimist in me can ascribe this to: 1) the Brewers being fast, 2) the Brewers frequently putting the ball in play, especially on the ground, and 3) the Brewers defense being so fundamentally sound it makes normally average teams look vulnerable in comparison.
The pessimist in me says that PCA is unlikely to doink a routine flyball in a playoff series. That Lindor won’t whiff an inning-ending two-hopper to allow multiple runs. That entire defenses for both the Reds and Red Sox will momentarily forget how to field and throw a baseball while losing in extra innings. That come October the Brewers won’t be able to infield hit their way to 4-run crooked innings (MLB-leading in both). Yup, all those things actually happened this regular season. And that’s just a taste.
Granted, such lapses commonly occur leaguewide over the course of a season. It’s just feels fluky when witnessing them pop up so one-sidedly. Scoring the second-most runs in MLB, the Brewers have proved smallball works. My fear is that it will work a lot less when their opponent is “locked in” for every PA. Do swinging bunts down the third base line constitute an actual strategy?
It worked for the Royals that one time
Even the other time except against that confounded Bumgarner
The history of playoff baseball is littered with shocking defensive failures in critical moments. Even just last year you had Aaron Judge making the first fielding (not throwing) error of his entire professional career in Game 5 of the WS. It happens.
In the regular season, it can be chalked up to things like a momentary loss of attention to a single detail in the grind of a full regular season. In the playoffs, you can have the opposite effect of playing too “tight” or “wound up” — overthinking things — and making mistakes that way.
I think there’s a misconception that playoff baseball is always these clean, tense, tight games, but there are still plenty of sloppy slogs, walk-filled slugfests, and inexplicable brain farts because baseball is the ultimate “s*** happens” sport.
Totally agree … but will that s*** happen on us or on them? Does all that defensive malfeascence to date predict that extra pressure will crack Milwaukee’s more fragile or sloppy opponents? Or is it just as likely that the Brewers will lose their apparent regular season edge of outfundamentaling teams that simply weren’t as actively focused on the fundamentals in those games.
From a predictive standpoint, teams have a fair amount of control over how many home runs they hit and give up, how many times they or their opponent strikes out vs puts the ball in play, and how well they play the field. My question is whether a team can control to a meaningful degree how their opponent plays the field.
As cited above, the 2015 Royals are a good example of a roster built like the 2025 Brewers. But I don’t recall if KC’s playoff opponents fielded all that poorly or if the Royals success stemmed more from their bevy of contact hitters lighting up the outfield grass that October.
Even a high BABIP is probably more “controllable” than relying on defensive boners. But hey, time will tell and that’s what rabbits’ feet are for — bring on the randomness!!
> So, yeah, there are fewer mistakes in the postseason.
This is precisely what the first graph disproves. You even say beneath it: “In general, the playoffs see about the same percentage of MeatWaste pitches as the regular season.“
The correct conclusion is that, in the postseason, there are fewer mistake and waste pitches the closer the game is.
It’s always worth re-reading (or reading if for some reason you never read it) Bill James’ note to Tony La Russa about how the White Sox approached the Orioles in the 1983 ALCS, which is contained in the 1984 Baseball Abstract. He basically contrasts how the White Sox approach worked against that year’s Mariners versus how it didn’t work against the Orioles. He was talking about taking extra bases, but it in many respects applies to any aspect of playoff baseball (though arguably more relevant to playoffs that only included division champions instead of three wild cards).
Is the “meatwaste”% also lower in close games during the regular season?
I assumed this would be a thoughtful article about Archers of Loaf’s influence on baseball