What’s The Plan In Philadelphia?

No team has been on a faster pace early in free agency so far than the Phillies, who have added Marlon Byrd to their outfield and agreed to retain catcher Carlos Ruiz. As you certainly know, both moves have been met with derision in certain corners of the baseball world, partially because both Byrd & Ruiz are older players with recent PED suspensions and at least one lousy year in the last two, and partially because Ruben Amaro’s reputation is such these days that he could find a way to trade John Mayberry for Mike Trout and people would still laugh at him about it.

Amaro’s earned a lot of that scorn, obviously, thanks to the atrocious Ryan Howard extension, his bets on Michael Young & Delmon Young last winter, and his insistence on retaining an aging core as the team has fallen from 102 wins to 81 to 73 in the last three years. But while these new moves aren’t exactly slam dunks, you can defend each of them on their own. Byrd’s contract is exactly in line with what basically everyone on the internet — FanGraphs readers included — expected he would get, and while guaranteeing Ruiz three years at his age is a lot harder to stomach, Dave Cameron did lay out a convincing case for why it can be considered a reasonable move.

So, fine: the Phillies have added an outfielder on a decent contract who immediately becomes one of their two best in the corners, and kept a good-enough catcher who has plenty of familiarity with their pitching staff in a world where catcher upgrades aren’t especially easy to come by. Really, that’s not a terrible week.

That’s all well and good. It still doesn’t answer the big question, however: what exactly are the Phillies doing?

We know the answer to that from Amaro’s point of view, of course. He wants to win in 2014. You don’t sign a 36-year-old outfielder and a soon-to-be 35-year-old catcher if you don’t think you can win right away. You don’t refuse to trade 35-year-olds Chase Utley and Cliff Lee if you plan on entering a rebuilding process.

And that’s fine, really. We might look at an old roster playing in a division with two of the better teams in baseball — sorry, Mets & Marlins, not you — and consider the “go for it” mode laughable. But there’s a viable argument to be made that Amaro doesn’t have the luxury to do anything else right now, since he might not be around to see the other side of a rebuild. (Not to mention, the organization may not want to waste the prime of Cole Hamels and knows Howard’s deal is absolutely unmovable.) While the finances aren’t exactly efficient and the depth is basically nonexistent, starting off with Hamels, Lee, Utley, Domonic Brown, and Jonathan Papelbon is a reasonably dangerous quintet.

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So if you’re going for it, then go for it, and the Phillies have the resources to make that happen. They’re a wealthy team, remember, with big television money coming, and a protected first round draft pick. They might not be the Dodgers as far as spending goes, but they shouldn’t be limited so much by dollars as they are by simple roster spots with which to upgrade. Going in to the offseason, they had three obvious holes with which to fix the disappointing offense that tied with the Mets for the 23rd-best wRC+ in baseball last year:

C — Ruiz
1B — Howard
2B — Utley
3B — M.Young
SS — Jimmy Rollins
LF — Brown
CF — Ben Revere
RF — D.Young

That’s somewhat imperfect, because injuries and suspensions meant that Mayberry, Darin Ruf, Kevin Frandsen, Freddy Galvis, etc., saw considerable playing time, but the point is clear. If you wanted to improve this team, then catcher, third base, and right field (barring an unlikely trade of Revere to open up center) were the ways to do it, because everywhere else is spoken for.

With these latest two signings, the Phillies have now set themselves up with…

C — Ruiz
1B — Howard
2B — Utley
3B — Cody Asche, probably
SS — Rollins
LF — Brown
CF — Revere
RF — Byrd

…and this is where the small picture clashes with the big one. By itself, Ruiz is probably a defensible signing. By itself, Byrd’s deal gives them an upgrade over last year’s atrocious right field collection. (Probably, anyway; it’s anyone’s guess what he is after his last two years.) But with their ages and recent histories of inconsistency, neither can be expected to be the additions that substantially change this team, and so you’ve cashed in two of your three available lineup upgrades for mild improvements, not enormous ones — and that’s if Ruiz bounces back, and if Byrd is a lot closer to what he was in 2013 than what he was in 2012.

Unless Amaro pulls off a surprise and somehow trades Brown while also upgrading over him, he’s left with only third base to play with, but with an excruciatingly thin market and the desire to not block Maikel Franco, Asche probably gets a full-time job, and it’s difficult to place high expectations on him.

This all goes back to what, really, is the plan in Philadelphia. It’s not the money spent on Byrd and Ruiz that’s the problem here, because really, the money isn’t that much. It’s the filling of two empty spots with guys who are decent enough, but not at all difference makers. You can’t simply cross your fingers and hope that Howard is less awful, that both Utley & Rollins will stay healthy and productive as they age another year, that late-career Ruiz & Byrd both resemble the one good season they’ve had in the last two rather than the one bad season.

That, however, currently appears to be the idea. The team is largely about maintaining the status quo, committing to neither making the big moves forward it needs to compete with Atlanta & Washington this year nor the teardown it likely needs to be competitive in the years to come. It’s merely standing in place and spending a great deal of money to finish something like 80-82 next year. We’ll see if this trend continues when Amaro figures out who is going to join Lee, Hamels, and Kyle Kendrick to fill out the rotation, but the nearly-inevitable three-year deal for a non-elite reliever, well, that’s just not going to cut it.





Mike Petriello used to write here, and now he does not. Find him at @mike_petriello or MLB.com.

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Joebrady
12 years ago

As someone mentioned in the Ruiz thread, the Philly goal is to catch the NYY as BB’s oldest team.

All kidding aside, the best these two signings will do is to get them to .500. That then, must be their goal. Their attendance is down ~ 750k over the past few years. That’s a ton of money, and I assume that the decline in attendance is also reflected in their TV and radio audience.

I think the more meaningful question is, is it better for a big market team to go into rebuild mode, and maybe see a drastic, but short-term attendance decline. Or are they better off with status quo, and see their attendance steadily, but not drastically decrease.

I still think the Phillies would’ve been better off beating the RS to the Big Dump, and sending Howard and Lee to LAD. You might have gotten away with it in 2012, but the decline since then has been too deep.

Adam M
12 years ago
Reply to  Joebrady

Yeah, I’d like to see more analysis of this sort of thing. I’ve read, for instance, that there is a significant difference in stadium revenue streams between 65 and 75 wins. Regardless of whether the Phillies can or cannot “contend” in 2014 – there is a lot of noise in baseball records, so an 80-win team on paper could conceivably be a 90-win team with some fortune – it bears discussing what the financial costs are for a team to “tank,” as the Astros have been doing, versus stay mediocre, which is what the Phillies seem to be doing.

Antonio Bananas
12 years ago
Reply to  Adam M

Or you could so what the Red Sox did and use your old guys to rebuild a farm and use your money to keep your major league team competitive. There is no excuse with that much money.

Spencer Dean
12 years ago

The Red Sox got lucky on almost all of their signings this year. Their front office is years ahead of Philadelphia’s to be sure, but getting a 5 win season from Victorino, and a 3 win season from Napoli was hardly certain. The Red Sox got lucky on a dollars/win basis. The Red Sox cannot be reasonably used as a model.

JayT
12 years ago

Not only that Spencer, but it’s extremely rare that a team gets to jettison all of its bad contracts in one go, as the Red Sox did in 2012.

Ruki Motomiya
12 years ago

I’m sure that the Phillies would love to jettson Ryan Howard and two other bad contracts for James Loney, but they don’t have that option.

(Though given how A-Gon performed and Crawford doing good, I’d say both sides got good in that deal)

JayT
12 years ago

I’m not sure you can say the Dodgers really did well in that trade. They got 5.7 war out of Gonzalez, Crawford, and Beckett and they paid $57 million for it.

For about half the money they could have signed Napoli, Victorino, and Colon and gotten back more than double the war. Obviously, that’s cherry picking some of the best free agent values from last year, but there are many other free agents from last offseason that the Dodgers could have signed for less and still received equal or better performance.

Maybe if Crawford and Gonzalez both improve over last year’s performance AND keep that level of play up for several years then if could be considered a win for the Dodgers, but I seriously doubt that’s going to happen.

nada
12 years ago

there’s an argument to be made that rich teams can exploit their wealth to amass a greater quantity of WAR even though it’s at lower efficiency (more $ per WAR).

If you see it in that light, and also believe that the price per WAR is more like 7M, then the Dodgers paying 10M/WAR at the exact point on the win curve in which WAR is most valuable sounds pretty good.

Joebrady
12 years ago

That’s what I’ve saying for a while now. The big market teams shouldn’t really need to blow up their teams. Ideally, you build from the ground up like StL. But if you run into problems, you combine your existing talent with a run of mid-level FAs like the RS did. As Spencer said, they were lucky in that they were fairly healthy, but they developed enough players from the minors that an infusion of $40-50M made them a very good team.

If you have $180M to spend, there is no excuse for not having enough talent or enough of a minor league system to depend on.

abreutime
12 years ago

Cross your fingers and hope 35 is the new 30.

Nats Fan
12 years ago
Reply to  abreutime

I saw an article a few days ago about how “80 is the new 60”. So, using that math, 35 is now the new 26. Right in their prime!

tylersnotes
12 years ago
Reply to  Nats Fan

this line of thought only breaks down because it assumes anyone in the phillies front office is using math

grundlock_3rd
12 years ago

I just see this as a 2-year window for RAJ to try to get by with what he has. That’s why the Byrd signing and Ruiz signing (had to give him that extra year!) are not exciting signings, but stop-gap signings aimed to potentially marginally improve the Phillies.

This way, they can keep fans hopes alive for two more seasons, and if/when they fail, 2016 will be a much cleaner slate with much more money available. The problem in today’s baseball with having money available is that virtually every team signs and keeps their core players if they financially are able to. The rest of the free agent crop or old or will pass their primes with the new mega deal they sign when they are FA’s (Ellsbury and Cano, for example).

So, if we are able to look ahead to the 2016 Phillies, the only contracts on the books will be Ruiz (1 yr left), Howard (1 year + buy out), Cliff Lee (vesting year), and Cole Hamels (3 years left + a vesting year), and Ben Revere and Domonic Brown under team control. Papelbon could get a vesting option triggered in ’16 if he “finishes” 55 games ’15 or 100 combined in ’14-’15, but let’s hope that doesn’t happen.

With some decent, if not locally overrated prospects in the mix, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that RAJ could approach 2016 with a good crop of young talent, hopefully quality free agents, and pieces acquired via trade that could make the Phillies among the top teams in the National League yet again. Wishful thinking, but that’s the mind set in which I’m approaching RAJ’s moves this off-season. Not to say I agree with them.

Sparkles Peterson
12 years ago
Reply to  grundlock_3rd

RAJ should be looking to approach 2016 with a good story about how he spent the last year and a half backpacking around Europe reflecting on his failures and he’s now ready to start anew in the lower rungs of an MLB front office.

grundlock_3rd
12 years ago

Popular theory is that RAJ, for the most part, does thy ownership’s bidding – like firing Charlie Manuel. Doesn’t excuse him for player decisions, but I’d be shocked if he was fired before 2016.

Antonio Bananas
12 years ago
Reply to  grundlock_3rd

As a braves fan, I certainly hope he’s never fired.

dovif
12 years ago
Reply to  grundlock_3rd

To have a good farm in 2016 means trading talented player before they get too far on the downside of their career (Utley, Howard before extension, Rollin before health left him, Ruiz 3 yrs ago etc)

When I look at Philly’s farm it is almost baren, with very little prospects to get excited about

Joebrady
12 years ago
Reply to  dovif

Spot on. They should’ve made a Lee/Howard trade before it was too late. As a RS fan, I am more than willing to tip my cap to the TBRs. It is easier to trade away ‘stars’ when you’re a small market team, and knowing you won’t keep them.

But the big guys have to be able to make the same move when warranted. Howard was a bad contract the day they signed it, but it could’ve been combined with better contracts in a trade.

The RS moved their big guys, TO dumped Wells, LAA dumped Wells after taking a big beating, Detroit just moved Fielder taking a smaller beating.

John Scarne had three rules in poker. One was that you don’t throw good money after bad. The only thing worse than signing a bad contract is not recognizing it, or not doing anything about it.

DBaGiantsFan
12 years ago

How many rings is Amaro gonna get with this type of a lineup?

jsolid
12 years ago
Reply to  DBaGiantsFan

rings under his eyes?
plenty.

Gabes
12 years ago

Hasn’t Amaro been quoted as saying he sees the 2014 Phillies looking like the 2013 Red Sox? These moves fit that theme, retaining/picking up mid-level guys like Byrd and Ruiz (and Mujica?) similar to the Victorino, Napoli, Uehara, etc signings.

I think its a terrible plan, since Boston was so low in 2012 they were bound to regress up in 2013 (not that most of us predicted a WS win), there isn’t anything in the Phillies profile that shows signs of positive movement.

grundlock_3rd
12 years ago
Reply to  Gabes

Sounds like something RAJ would say, but I agree with you, the Phillies don’t have the top end offensive talent or minor league players to become a WS contender overnight. Plus, how often does a team go from worst in the division to WS champ? The ’13 Sox are an outlier.

One more point, it’s safe to say the construction of the 2013 Red Sox was a bit more developed from a numbers and saber methodology than the Phillies approach of, “Hey that guy had 88 RBI, let’s sign him!”

nada
12 years ago
Reply to  Gabes

do you have a source for that quote? I’m just curious, as I have heard that notion before and would like to know whether Amaro himself advanced it.

To the point being raised, the Red Sox bet on players in their early 30s coming back to have big seasons. It looks to me like Napoli, Victorino, Ellsbury, and Pedroia were the core of their resurgence, contributing almost 10 wins ABOVE their 2012 WAR totals. On top of that, many of the Red Sox players from 2012 did ~1 WAR better than 2012 (e.g. Lackey, Lester, Big Papi), which might be a reflection of just how horrible that year was for them.

TL;DR: If you want to bet big on 5 guys who had underachieving years (relative to their careers) when they were 29/30/31, that seems like a not entirely terrible strategy. When you are instead betting on a bunch of guys who recently had OVERACHIEVING years when they were 34/35/36, that seems like a bad move.

tylersnotes
12 years ago
Reply to  nada

we can’t assume that anyone in the phillies front office has ever seen an aging curve

Spit Ball
12 years ago
Reply to  tylersnotes

Not on a fangraphs chart but they must be watching the games with their eyes closed because the aging curve happening on the field is apparent.

grundlock_3rd
12 years ago
Reply to  nada

certainly wasn’t a direct quote, but it’s apparent that RAJ is stubborn to the idea of if not totally against sabermetrics. he’s been quoted saying he doesn’t care about walks, and the phillies just hired their first data person, scott freedman, as a consultant – so he obviously doesn’t have much pull.

all quoted and public signs point to RAJ caring more about what a player’s girlfriend looks like as opposed to if he can get on base or field.

Mr Punch
12 years ago
Reply to  nada

The Red Sox have a long history of betting on talented but underachieving 31-year-olds; this has been explicit at times.

Hunter
12 years ago

Amaro could be trying to do what Dave has suggested is a good idea for teams: rebuild while still putting a decent product on the field.

Rebuild doesn’t have to mean “sell everyone”, and arguably, there are precious few pieces the Phils have that will get them young, premium talent back.

So, they’re signing guys who don’t cost draft picks while putting a decent product on the field that, if everything breaks absolutely correctly, has a chance for contention. More likely, they’ll be mediocre, without falling to the Astros’s level of hideousness, which would absolutely tank the attendance in Philly and go back to the days of free Phillies tickets in hot dog packages (anyone remember those?)

If this is actually Amaro’s plan, I think it is a sound one.

tylersnotes
12 years ago
Reply to  Hunter

i think we have to assume the phillies ownership sees no other choice– it’s really difficult to imagine the team tasting the successes of 2007-2011, setting attendance records and looking forward to the tv money just around the corner, and actually enter a real rebuild.

So if we assume they’re working toward putting a viable product on the field while also focusing on improving the farm, then these moves aren’t unreasonable at face value. The length doesn’t make them that attractive– getting ruiz at 3 years doesn’t give the team much of a hometown discount and targeting relievers for multiyear deals isn’t making anyone excited.

tylersnotes
12 years ago

steamer projects this group to be worth 14.1 WAR in 2014. That’s… rough, but it’s also based on an average of 509 plate appearances across that 9. The ability for this core to stay healthy, or the depth behind it to have value, will be what makes the difference for the Phillies offense next year.

If we step back to all the transactions made by RAJ including the big moves during the season (signing Miguel Gonzalez and extending Utley), the Phillies are taking risks which do seem to actively improve the team and could pay off (as opposed to the signing of a random assortment of warm bodies that took place last year). I get the feeling RAJ doesn’t even consider this gambling, or at least doesn’t have the same sense of the stakes as the rest of us. But while I absolutely expect this to blow up in RAJ’s face and the phillies to finish below the Mets in 2014, the upside is fairly high and the NL East is probably more winnable than a lot of us expect.

kevinthecomic
12 years ago
Reply to  tylersnotes

Wow, 14 WAR?!?!?!?!?!?!

So, using a replacement level number of wins as somewhere between 48 – 54 (which is what I recall replacement level being, depending on the source you use), you’re looking at a Phillies 2014 having between 62 – 68 wins?!?!?!?!

Rough indeed!!!!

LTG
12 years ago
Reply to  kevinthecomic

1. I don’t think that number includes Byrd, but that is a minor point because his projection by Steamer looks bad.

2. I don’t think that number includes the pitchers. With the pitchers the projection is more like 75 wins, which is not good but not so far from .500 that RAJ can’t get there with a couple smart pitching signings.

I make no comment on the likelihood of that last event.

tylersnotes
12 years ago
Reply to  LTG

i did include byrd, did not include pitchers.

The big question in these projections appears to be playing time. This team doesn’t fail because of the lack of talent on its roster– that certainly contributes. It fails because there is an active nothing behind that core. If I add Kratz, Galvis, and Mayberry’s projections on top of the core 9, I end up with 13.9 WAR. If the phillies post a winning record with the team they’re rostering, Ryne Sandberg will be manager of the year.

Pitnick
12 years ago
Reply to  kevinthecomic

I read that as not including pitchers.

Pat
12 years ago

The Phillies had the worst run differential in the NL last year and a pythag of a 66 win team. It’s very charitable to consider this an 80-82 win team next year. Heck if they signed Ellsbury and McCann instead it still might not be an 80-82 win team.

Atreyu Jones
12 years ago
Reply to  Pat

Taking a team’s prior year win total (or pythag record), and adding the projected wins of the new players is NOT how a team’s record should be predicted. No team ever improved their win totals by 15+ games from one year to the next by adding a projected 15+ wins of talent. The recent examples are the 2011-to-2012 A’s and Reds, and the 2012-to-2013 Red Sox.

I’m not predicting that the Phillies will be as successful as those teams, and I recognize that those teams are outliers. But we should pretty much throw out the Phillies’ (or any team’s) 2013 record when projecting a number or wins for them in 2014.

Harry
12 years ago
Reply to  Atreyu Jones

I think the more pertinent point is that they overperformed last season compared to expected win totals (pythag record), so there is more likely regression coming for the Phils core players, not improvement.

dovif
12 years ago
Reply to  Atreyu Jones

Atreyu

I think the point is the Philly was a bad hitting lineup last year and got lucky, they are now another year older and all projection suggest that their aging players are likely to regress further. If luck is not on their side next year, this could be very ugly

Atreyu Jones
12 years ago
Reply to  dovif

They should get more offense out of C and 1B than last year. And it won’t require too much luck to get better offense out of there outfield as a whole and out of their bench players.

3B is a wildcard, and they are likely to get less offense out of SS and 2B.

Atreyu Jones
12 years ago
Reply to  dovif

*their* outfield as a whole.

BurleighGrimes
12 years ago

It almost seems like these moves and hedged bets for RAN.

Yo Mama
12 years ago

RAJ’s like the fantasy baseball player that still has $9 at the end of an auction. But dumber.

tylersnotes
12 years ago
Reply to  Yo Mama

if RAJ played fantasy baseball, everyone else in the league would be prepping for the auction and he would be prepping for a snake draft.

hawkeyecub
12 years ago

Kendrick, Lannan, and Halladay pitched 300 decidedly below average innings last year. The bench wasn’t really all that either. If they can sign averagish guys to fill out the back of the rotation (whichever FA pitchers are the least homer prone–they missed the boat on Hudson), get solid bench depth (who will inevitably get a lot of playing time with the aging starting line-up), get a bounceback from Hamels, get a boost from Howard playing more than 80 games (he is still a useful player, if grossly overpayed) and Ruiz more than 92, then they could maybe contend for a wildcard spot. That is absolutely the right move for a team in that market size. What were they going to get for a 34 year old Cliff Lee signed to a big contract or half a season of Utley? They have almost nothing to trade, so screw it.

Antonio Bananas
12 years ago
Reply to  hawkeyecub

Last year they had lots to trade. That’s the point. Just because you’ve been making a bunch of shitty decisions doesn’t mean you should keep making shitty decisions just because your reward for changing isn’t as big as it would have been if you were actually smart about it earlier. The people on the titanic didn’t say “fuck it, let’s hit another ice berg, it’s going down anyways”.

Atreyu Jones
12 years ago

If the “reward for changing” has diminished to the point where the reward for not-changing (a medium-to-long-shot at the playoffs) is just as valuable, you might as well steam the rest of the way through the iceberg field and hope to not sink.

jh
12 years ago
Reply to  Atreyu Jones

where are you getting a medium to long shot at the playoffs?

The Phillies were awful last year; as Pat pointed out, the worst run differential in the NL. All of their good players are on the wrong side of the age curve, many of them far into the wrong side of the curve, so they are more likely to decline than improve–if not get injured and produce nothing. And so far RAJ’s moves have been 1) to retain one of those very old players and 2) sign another very old player who just came off the best season of his career. The projected WAR total of their players is dreadful, and the free agent market is sufficiently thin that without a huge investment, they probably can’t improve that much more.

On top of this they play in a division with two strong teams who are likely improving, and in a conference stacked with plausible Wild Card contenders (like the Pirates/Reds/Cards trio) in positions much better than they are.

They aren’t a medium shot to the playoffs. They are a way long shot. Not that it can’t happen, but even if it did, it wouldn’t make the Amaro strategy (OLDEST TEAM EVAR) a real smart way to build a team!

.. and did I mention that this strategy is going to burden them with large contracts for unproductive players in the latter parts of the deal (because that’s how free agent contracts work), thus probably crippling the team in two or three years?

dovif
12 years ago
Reply to  Atreyu Jones

The reward fot changing is not very valuable. The reward for not changing was about 73 win last year and about 70 next year.

I think I would much rather be in Houston or the Mets situation then Phillies

BobSmith77
12 years ago

What assets did the Phils have to trade besides 2 expiring contracts in Utley & Ruiz? I am not sure if Utley would necessarily pass another team’s physical either at this point. Lee has a partial no-trade and is owed a ton of money because his contract was heavily backloaded.

I am not defending what Amaro has done but the Phils didn’t have a bunch of readily tradeable assets either at the trading deadline last year.

dovif
12 years ago
Reply to  BobSmith77

Utley yes, team knows about his injury history and it would have been a 2 month gamble, you can make the case he would not have fetch much

Lee, yes, some contender would have wanted him and he would have wanted another chance at a ring

Young should have been traded earlier

Brad JohnsonMember
12 years ago

Who are these “lots to trade” you’re referring to? Cole Hamels? Would anyone else on the roster return a prospect worth acquiring? Maybe Dom Brown.

Trent Phloog
12 years ago

It seems overly charitable to suggest that RAJ has a “plan”…

TreeFrog
12 years ago

#SeniorCitizensBankPark

jh
12 years ago
Reply to  TreeFrog

so good it should be made the official hashtag of the 2014 Phillies.

Legaryd
12 years ago

Dude you’re so dumb, don’t you get it.

First, collect underpants. Second,. Third, profit!

_C1V
12 years ago

“Plans are for fools” – Oglethorpe

jrubyMember since 2026
12 years ago
Reply to  _C1V

“Maybe your next plan should be to tell me what the plan is!” – Emory

jrubyMember since 2026
12 years ago
Reply to  jruby

Ahh my bad. Major Shake said that, not Emory!

Raff
12 years ago

Trading John Mayberry for Mike Trout —

Petriello, have you been reading the Phillies fan fiction in my diary?

B N
12 years ago

“but with an excruciatingly thin market and the desire to not block Maikel Franco”

Why not just sign Youk? He’s coming off an injury, so it’s not like he’ll be getting paid richly. If he flops, no problem: just 1/4 of a year of Ryan Howard to waste. If he has another good season or so in him, you’d have great production at 3B.

Tom
12 years ago
Reply to  B N

Like. Would be so in line with the Phillies plan I’m surprised the deal isnt done yet!

Brad JohnsonMember
12 years ago
Reply to  B N

The Phillies like Cody Asche a lot too and they think Franco could be ready by mid-season. While Mike is right in that money isn’t a HUGE concern for the Phillies, it’s still A concern. Signing Youkilis is just throwing away money at a non-problem position. That money will be assigned to a reliever.

Brad JohnsonMember
12 years ago

I expect the Phillies to sniff around the top outfielders hoping to find a well regarded player who’s being avoided (like Bourn or Swisher last winter). Bringing in another outfielder can allow the club to trade Brown or even Revere, or it could supply more depth to the roster.

I’m also fairly confident that Howard will be platooned, which could be a 1-2 win upgrade in itself.