When Will the Phillies Spend?

Few teams could add Giancarlo Stanton as easily as the Phillies. (Photo: Corn Farmer)

Last week at the site, Craig Edwards attempted to estimate each club’s free-agent spending power for the offseason. The task is a difficult one. Because major-league clubs aren’t tax-funded public institutions, one can’t simply file a Freedom of Information Act request to view each team’s finances. It’s necessary, therefore, to use a club’s past payroll figures as a guide to the future.

One of the most interesting results from Edwards’ exercise concerns the Phillies. By Edwards’ methodology, Philadelphia has about $70 million available to spend this offseason, trailing only the rebuilding Tigers in that regard. They might even have more potential spending power than that: despite residing in one of the largest markets in the country, the Phillies have only an estimated $37 million in projected salary after arbitration.

The Phillies, like a host of teams, have been connected to Giancarlo Stanton this offseason. That makes some sense, as they could easily take on Stanton’s contract. The Phillies could add Stanton and still have another $40-plus million to add additional help and try and accelerate their return to competitiveness.

Or the Phillies could wait until next offseason’s historic free-agent class and compete for premium free agents like Bryce Harper and Manny Machado. Waiting until next winter and retaining all their prospects in the process might be akin to passing the Stanford marshmallow experiment, though the Phillies might not have to give up top prospect talent for Stanton if they’re willing to absorb most of his salary.

The Phillies have a lot of ground to make up if they want to contend quickly. Stanton’s projected 5.5 WAR alone wouldn’t thrust the club into contention, according to FanGraphs’ early 2018 projections, in which the Phillies are tied with the Royals for the third-worst mark in the game (72-90). The Phillies, at the moment, are forecast to record the third-worst run differential in the sport (-90), leading only the Padres and White Sox.

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Even spending $70-plus million in 2018 on free agents/Stanton this offseason might not be enough to buy their way into contention. Let’s say they spent all of those dollars at $9 million per WAR and got exactly what they paid for. Well, they would only add about eight wins, if that were the case. The Nationals, meanwhile, are currently projected to have a 20-game edge in the division, the Diamondbacks a 13-game edge for the No. 2 Wild Card in the NL. Philadelphia would still, on average, reside five games shy of contention.

So, the Phillies have three options. They can (a) attempt to immediately buy their way into relevancy, (b) wait a year, see who develops internally, and save all their chips for a Harper or Machado max bid (and be ready to target fall-back options like, say, Josh Donaldson or Gerrit Cole), or (c) hedge their bets and dabble a bit in both this offseason and next. Their cash and these scenarios make the Phillies pretty interesting as of Nov. 27.

As of this moment, there’s a compelling case for the Phillies to hedge between this winter and next.

That plan would start with Stanton. If the Phillies could acquire Stanton for mostly cash — the Marlins’ position would have to change and Stanton has a no-trade clause — then Philadelphia ought to consider pursuing the NL’s top slugger. After all, they aren’t perceived to be the favorites for the top prizes next offseason. Still, given the number of suitors for Stanton, let’s consider him a long shot, and assume the Phillies are probably best served by saving the majority of their dollars for next offseason.

Still, beyond Stanton, there are still some interesting multi-year options that could be of interest this winter.

The Phillies might want to start by exploring the under-30 free agents, a class which includes 29-year-old Mike Moustakas. It seems possible that, with two straight sub-100 wRC+ seasons and a career 90 wRC+ mark in 1,646 plate appearances, Maikel Franco might not be the answer for Philadelphia at third base. Moustakas would be helped quite a bit by trading Kauffman Stadium for Citizens Bank Park. Consider Moustakas’s 2015-17 batted balls overlaid on Citizens Bank Park:

Michael Pineda is perhaps this year’s Wilson Ramos and a fascinating buy-low, value target for team willing to spend on him this year while he rehabs back from this summer’s Tommy John surgery. Pineda has posted three straight seasons of above-average strikeout- and walk-rate differentials (K-BB%), and it would be interesting to see him move from the AL East into the NL.

At 28, Tyler Chatwood is a popular upside option as he departs Colorado’s extreme run environment. Could Eric Hosmer, 28, enter the offseason as the top free-agent landmine and become a value play at some point as teams refuse to match his $200 million asking price? (Though with Rhys Hoskins’s best fit at first base perhaps that eliminates Philly as a possible landing spot for Hosmer.) Addison Reed, 29, is the only other under-30 free agent in Dave’s top top 50 free agents.

It will be interesting to see what the Phillies do with their heap of cash. The MLBPA should also be paying attention, as the owners’ share of revenue continues to increase in a sport with no salary floor and just a soft salary cap.

The Phillies likely have their eye on spending next offseason, but there could be some opportunity this winter, too, for a team with about as much spending power as any club. At some point, they’ll need to use it.





A Cleveland native, FanGraphs writer Travis Sawchik is the author of the New York Times bestselling book, Big Data Baseball. He also contributes to The Athletic Cleveland, and has written for the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, among other outlets. Follow him on Twitter @Travis_Sawchik.

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WerthlessMember since 2020
8 years ago

Trust the Process.

Ruben Amaro Jr.
8 years ago
Reply to  Werthless

At both ends.

LHPSU
8 years ago

With Altherr and Williams both putting together interesting seasons, OF is not really a strong need. If they needed to, they could likely get a decent outfielder in free agency for far less than Stanton would cost.

I’ve never been convinced that you should wait for the 2018-19 free agent class. The marshmallow is not guaranteed to be there, and past the handful of big names there isn’t all that much depth. Miss out on the Harper/Machado tier, and suddenly you’re rotting in your cash with no good way to spend it, wishing you’d invested in a J.D. Martinez or Mike Moustakas or Yu Darvish.

CC AFCMember since 2016
8 years ago
Reply to  LHPSU

There’s still Dozier, Donaldson, McCutchen, Pollock, Blackmon, Kershaw (possibly), Keuchel, Garrett Richards, Andrew Miller, Kimbrel among next year’s free agents. So I would have to disagree that you’re SOL if you don’t get Harper or Machado.

Matt
8 years ago
Reply to  CC AFC

Yeah, even tier 2 next year is better than tier 1 this year. A consolation prize of Donaldson/Pollock is probably better than Martinez/Moustakas this year. Or feel free to sub in basically any of those names. The exception being Stanton, obviously, if they’re willing to go in on him.

I think they’re probably best suited to grab a bunch of the setup guys and see if any of them can handle more (guys like Reed and Morrow). Try to corner the market there, give the OF another year of evaluation to see which of Williams, Altherr, and Hoskins can be legit top outfielders, and then next year use FA to fill 2-3 big holes, maybe using either Williams or Altherr in a trade if they can win the Harper sweepstakes.

CC AFCMember since 2016
8 years ago

Interesting article. I think if I were them I would prefer to take one more season to sort out which position players I think will be part of the long term plan. Beyond Franco, it seems they have a lot of players on the fence. Is Cesar Hernandez someone they want to extend or move on from? I think you would at least want to take a look to see which of Kingery, Alfaro, Crawford, Williams, Altherr, maybe even Cozens you want to be a regular going forward so you can figure out where to direct your 2018/19 money. And that’s even assuming you have made up your mind on Hoskins (seems like a safe bet), Herrera and Galvis.

I wouldn’t mind seeing them be players on Darvish, though, if he was interested. They have so much money it shouldn’t preclude them from making runs at big time position players next year.

Brad JohnsonMember
8 years ago
Reply to  CC AFC

Just a note, they definitely have not made up their mind on Galvis. He’s a free agent after 2018, and it seems likely they’ll either try to sell Manny Machado on that role or shift JP Crawford from 3B/utility work. We may even see mostly JPC at SS in 2018 as the club prepares to transition.

CC AFCMember since 2016
8 years ago
Reply to  Brad Johnson

Yeah, I was thinking they would have made up their minds AGAINST Galvis being part of the long term core.

pedeysRSox
8 years ago
Reply to  CC AFC

They should trade him for a few relievers ASAP before he can implode.

Brad JohnsonMember
8 years ago
Reply to  pedeysRSox

I don’t think you can get a couple relievers for one year of a defense-first shortstop.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  CC AFC

I would agree with this. In addition to the people you mentioned, Roman Quinn is a possibility in left. Right now, they only have three “good players” in Hernandez, Hoskins, and Herrera, but a lot of guys with decent upside. It makes sense to wait and see which ones of them might pan out.

That said, last year the Phillies’ strategy was try and sign guys they could flip at the deadline like Howie Kendrick and Michael Saunders and we all see how that turned out. I wouldn’t be surprised to see them try and pounce on a corner outfield guy if their market evaporates, although that wouldn’t be my preferred strategy.

WerthlessMember since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I’m guessing if they sign anyone, it will be pitching. Pineda, Lynn, Chatwood… maybe give Mike Minor another chance as a SP. They will likely want their young position players to play.

Altherr, Herrera, and Williams in the OF. Hoskins, Hernandez, Crawford and Galvis/Franco. Kingery mid-season.

free-range turducken
8 years ago

I really enjoyed reading about the Phillies spending options without ever having to see the words “FELONY FRAUD”.

Psychic... Powerless...
8 years ago

He’s probably writing a manifesto as we speak.

YKnotDisco
8 years ago

(Disregard)

Joe Joe
8 years ago

I don’t think the Phillies should try to spend themselves to be contenders this year. I do think it would be a good idea to bargain hunt and add some payroll that will help in 2018, but more so in 2019+. One, it will make knowing what they need next year more clear. Two, it will be an easier sell to free agents next season that Phillies are division contenders if they are closer to 0.500 this year. Three, I’m not sure the projected NL Wild Card teams are strong enough to punt 2018 completely.

James
8 years ago

That’s one hell of a single out in right

ScoreboardMember since 2016
8 years ago

Pretty sure you should repeat your Moustakas analysis for Pineda before recommending him to the Phils. Don’t disagree with your assessment on the buy low piece, but his failure has been due to massive HR/FB issues (14.7, 17.0, 22.5 over the past 3 years). Moving to Citizens Bank park is not going to help address his core issue.

OddBall Herrera
8 years ago

Would love to see the gif of that Moustakas sacrifice fly about 40 feet into the stands.

I can only assume Buxton was involved.

Brad JohnsonMember
8 years ago

Worth noting that while Kauffman is huge, KC is actually a very hitting friendly environment due to consistently warm weather. His actual fly ball distances would have been less in Philly.

nv
8 years ago
Reply to  Brad Johnson

Did you look any of this up?

Brad JohnsonMember
8 years ago
Reply to  nv

Ask any of the park effect guys. We talk about this on twitter all the time.

Dave TMember since 2025
8 years ago
Reply to  Brad Johnson

I thought it was less about warm weather and more about lots of outfield space (fewer home runs, but more hits on balls in play) as well as some other small factors such as a below average amount of foul territory (so more pop-ups into the stands that aren’t outs) – https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/kauffman-stadium-pitcher-friendly-hitter-friendly/

How those factors balance out for Moustakas is I suppose an open question, but the overall effect is reportedly that Kauffman plays as hitter-friendly but simply not home run-friendly.

Brad JohnsonMember
8 years ago
Reply to  Dave T

Correct, but the ball does fly a little farther on average due to the heat.

Just as an example, I use a weather app for DFS play. During the summer months KC is frequently at or off the top end of the scale (10) while most of the league is in the 6 to 8 range. The app doesn’t include park factors – just a weather factor for the day. Kauffman’s dimensions overcome the warmth.

I also don’t recall precisely how much distance we’re talking. Obviously it depends on the specific batted ball.

Mahoney
8 years ago

Chatwood should be one of their targets. Pitching at sea level, he would be the perfect groundball machine for Citizens Bank Park.

matdotmarshall
8 years ago

Agree with Moose as a solid FA, disagree with signing him. He turned down a QO – it’s plausible that this will be the last season for a while that Philly is among the first picks in the draft and the IBP money is particularly valuable given the book that was just thrown at Atlanta. (Not sure which penalties/compensation would specifically apply here, but bottom line is that 3B/SS can be filled by Crawford/Galvis until the 18-19 free agent class gives us an opportunity to buy talent at a lower opportunity cost)

dl80Member since 2026
8 years ago

Great article, but here is the reminder to everyone that the Stanford Marshmallow Study is an excellent example of researchers misreading correlation as causation.

It turns out that children with a background where delaying has paid off are much better at patience and delayed gratification than children who have experienced moments where their future rewards were taken away from them before they could enjoy them. It’s because children from difficult backgrounds (mostly class-based, but race as well) are making rational choices that the food/money/car may not be there a week or a year from now and this is their opportunity to at least get something. Otherwise, other people, the government, police, etc. may (justly or not) take it from them.

Children from safe and consistent backgrounds (mostly upper or upper middle class) can be patient because they (subconsciously) know something will always be there for them, even if this particular item goes away.

So it turns out that children from stable backgrounds where promised rewards are consistently delivered are both good at delayed gratification and at doing well in their lives. Not that shocking in the end.

https://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2014/09/09/03kohn.h34.html

http://www.rochester.edu/news/show.php?id=4622

Shirtless Bartolo Colon
8 years ago
Reply to  dl80

My secret to passing the marshmallow test: sneaking into Golden Corral before going to school.

Jetsy Extrano
8 years ago
Reply to  dl80

Interesting, thanks for the note.

jmsdean477
8 years ago

If Im them I would recognize that theyre to far off, and sign as many potential trade chips as they can this winter. They could be a lot more appealing next offseason if they can acquire more minor league talent this summer so they have a better base to build on for 2019.

Dominikk85Member since 2020
8 years ago

Phillies mostly need pitching, nola is really their only good and reliable starter. VV has stuff but big durability concerns that might play better out of the pen.

Dominikk85Member since 2020
8 years ago

Btw am I the only one thinking chatwood won’t benefit all that much from another park? Sure his absolute stats will be better but he is a low K,high bb guy who lives on being a grounder machine and doesn’t have a good breaking ball.

If course grounders play everywhere but they play best at coors and his reliance on his fastball(s) is also a thing that plays in coors.

He doesn’t have a breaking ball that will get a huge boost out of coors (he occasionally throws a curve but rarely uses it so it probably is more of a “different look” pitch),so while his absolute stats will get better he probably is a pitcher that is made well for coors.

I think a guy like jon gray who has a dominant slider and real swing and miss stuff might get a bigger boost from another park.