White Sox Add James Shields, #4 Starter
Two offseasons ago, James Shields was seeking a five-year deal worth $125 million. He went unsigned until February, and ended up settling for a four-year deal worth $75 million in San Diego. One year and four months later, the Padres are paying more than half of Shields’ remaining salary for him to play on another team.
The deal goes like this:
So the full deal — James Shields and cash for Erik Johnson and Fernando Tatis Jr. — is what @barstoolWSD originally reported. Nice work.
— Dennis Lin (@sdutdennislin) June 4, 2016
The funny thing about the White Sox rotation is that it was both excellent and also in obvious need of an upgrade. Prior to acquiring Shields, our rest-of-season forecasts actually had the White Sox rotation as the sixth-best in baseball, but it’s been clear for a while now that they’d eventually need to do something to address the back-end. Those same forecasts expect a 3.49 ERA and a 3.40 FIP from Chris Sale, Jose Quintana, and Carlos Rodon, which is elite. The rest of the rotation, though? The rest of the rotation, which would be expected to account for 40% of the team’s starts, was projected for a 4.85 ERA and 4.79 FIP.
So they went and acquired Big Game James, and with Shields, the White Sox rotation has added another win to its rest-of-season projection, but more importantly, has lengthened the depth. The sixth starter is now either Latos or Gonzalez, rather than Johnson, whose former prospect shine may have officially worn off sometime between last year and now. And if all goes well, neither will be tasked with starting a playoff game. The White Sox announced their presence as a contender by getting off to a 23-10 start, and now, they’ve filled out an actual playoff rotation.
From the Padres’ perspective, Shields was nothing more than a trade chip. He’d been largely underwhelming since joining the National League, putting up an adjusted ERA seven percent below league average in San Diego, and an adjusted FIP 14 percent below league average. That they had to eat more than half his remaining salary shows just how far Shields’ value has dropped. What they received in return further reinforces that notion.
Johnson is a former second-round pick with a career 4.50 ERA and 5.68 FIP in 98 big-league innings. As a 26-year-old this season, he’s posted a 5.31 FIP in 10 starts between the majors and Triple-A, displaying neither velocity nor command. The highlight of the package is Fernando Tatis Jr., son of the other Fernando Tatis, a 17-year-old infielder signed for $700,000 out of the Dominican Republic last July. A total wild card. Could be a future All-Star. Could be a future zero. The bigger point is that San Diego doesn’t owe James Shields his full salary in 2017 or ’18 anymore, and maybe possibility potentially they’ve received some future talent for that right. This is what it looks like when a team swallows its pride and trudges forward.
The most glaring issue that’s depreciated Shields’ value over his last 44 starts has been the long ball, and with that in mind, moving from Petco Park and the National League to US Cellular Field and the American League is a frightening proposition. Starting last year, Shields has allowed one of the five-worst home run rates by an active qualified starter. Petco suppresses homers by 2%. US Cellular boosts them by 8%.
The more subtle way that Shields has declined, though, is that he’s putting more batters on base with free passes — less than ideal when giving up as many long balls as Shields has. In 2015, Shields doubled his walk rate from the prior season. Since the start of 2015, he’s thrown the third-lowest rate of in-zone pitches among all qualified starters. As we’ve seen with Francisco Liriano, this is a style (intentional or otherwise) that can work well when executed, but the league is adjusting back to the extreme out-of-zone pitcher, and Shields is no exception — he’s seen the 10th-largest decrease in out-of-zone swings from any qualified starter last year to next.
More concerning is the potential explanation for Shields’ shift in approach. He didn’t always work out of the zone like this, see. In fact, in every year of his career until coming to San Diego, he ran roughly average in-zone rates. But last year’s extreme shift toward working outside the zone coincided with a 1.4-mph drop in velocity — the first time he’d ever experienced a downtick in velo, and an indicator that perhaps Shields was no longer comfortable working inside the zone with diminished stuff. He’s lost another tick of velo this year, and is now down more than two miles per hour from where he was in his Kansas City days.
Essentially, Shields has lost velocity, and it’s caused him to work outside the zone. But hitters aren’t chasing outside the zone, so he’s giving up walks, and when he’s forced to come inside the zone, he’s giving up dingers. It’s not a particularly promising series of events.
But here’s the thing. Shields has always had a reputation as a frontline starter, a reputation he earned. In Kansas City, he was expected to be that. In San Diego, he was expected to be that. He’s not that anymore, but the nice thing is that in Chicago, he isn’t being asked to be. He’s a third or fourth starter who only needs to be a third or fourth starter, and that’s not too bad. Assuming Shields doesn’t exercise his opt-out after this season, the White Sox will be on the hook for roughly $26 million over the next two years, so they’re hoping the decline will at least somewhat plateau, but that’s not an exorbitant sum given Shields’ ability to eat innings as a league average-ish starter.
The White Sox upgraded their 2016 roster, and especially so when you consider the potential of postseason play. Far as Shields has fallen, he’s still an improvement over the likes of Mat Latos, Miguel Gonzalez, and Erik Johnson, and now if the White Sox find themselves playing October ball, they should certainly expect to feel more confident in Game 4. They gave up very little in terms of talent to acquire Shields, and with the Padres sending $30 million their way, his remaining salary no longer infers frontline production, but instead reflects what he actually is.
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At least he won’t have to face Bartolo Colon anymore this season.
I’m assuming that one down vote was from Bartolo himself
There’s always the World Series.
Well that’s one way to go around the international spending limits. But in all seriousness I think it’s fine for both sides. Multiple teams were interested and this is the package they went for so i think that paints a picture of how teams viewed shields.
Man, that offseason was terrible. I legitimately feel bad for padres fans.
I don’t. Have you ever been to San Diego?
I *love* Chicago… and would much rather be in San Diego.
As a Rays’ fan, I saw Shields when he was very good. And I think he lost the feel for his previously excellent changeup. If there is a way to measure that, I would recommend it.
Just had a discussion with a white sox fan and it made me wonder if they go all in for the next 2 years and trade for braun, lucroy and will smith. Taking brauns contract means you get will smith for free basically, so a package of fulmer, danish, michalewski, alfaro might be enough.
Are “an adjusted ERA seven percent below league average” and “an adjusted FIP 14 percent below league average” better or worse than average? I would think better, because lower ERA and FIP are better, but from the context I’m not entirely sure.
In this case, “below league average” means worse. ERA and FIP numbers are better when they’re lower but describing them as a percentage below or above league average means the typical better or worse. Sort of like how the stat ERA+ works by stating that an ERA+ of 100 is average and any point above or below that is what percent better or worse the pitcher has been.
It’s confusing wording.
Thanks!
This was a very courageous move by the Padres – the kind of move that the Red Sox and Philles won’t make – and you have to admire them for it. It’s hard to admit that you made a mistake that big and that public and then deal with in adult manner, but the Padres did just that. Well done, SD.
They kind of had to after an owner opened his big fat mouth.
It’s not like the Red Sox didn’t dump Josh Beckett and Carl Crawford’s contracts.
And the process is very different when you’re 12 games under .500 and when you’re 11 games above .500 – or even just breaking even.
What type of similar move do you suggest that the Phillies get up the courage to make? Which player had a contract of which they could / should have eaten ~50% to move for a return like Johnson and Tatis, Jr.?
I dunno, trading Ryan Howard at any point over the last 6 or so years?
For what and to whom? They traded all the guys that other teams wanted – Utley, Rollins, Giles, Hamels. Nobody wanted Howard. If you think the Phillies didn’t “blow up the core”, you just weren’t paying attention.
jon makes a good point, actually… it doesn’t matter what they would have gotten, only that some sucker would have shared the bad contract… had they covered 70 or 80% of his deal, it still would have been better than watching him get wally pipp’d by tommy joseph and his soon to be .700 ops…
“the kind of move that the Red Sox and Philles won’t make”
Were you born after 2012?
I can’t help but think this is a terrible deal for the Padres — I don’t think Shields needed to move and don’t think they got a worthwhile return for him either.
First, the analysis of his performance as a Padre doesn’t seem fair. Last year, the Padres had the 2nd worst D in baseball, so I’m not sure how his ERA was above his FIP — either way, you’d expect his numbers to decline just by how bad that defense played. Then this season, his stats look pretty good before the 10ER he gave up a few days ago…..which news you’re about to be traded could do to a player….before that start he had 3.06 ERA and 3.91 FIP. But to note, the White Sox were the only D worse than the Padres last season….
Second, I don’t think you can really talk about park factors relative to HRs for change-up pitchers like Shields; pitchers that rely on change-ups so heavily give up HRs when they lose feel for the change-up and/or can’t establish command with the fastball. Its just a nature of that kind of pitching style. Cole Hamels has the same problem, 1 in 5 starts he’ll get rocked because he struggles with his change, its not indicative of a skill problem, until it start happening too much, and likewise, moving to a more favorable park for HRs won’t have a meaningful impact.
Good points about Shields and some of the factors behind his disappointing numbers. Strictly from a standpoint of perceived value, the Padres could be selling a bit low on him.
However, if I were a Padres fan I’d be thrilled about two things. First, it’s now crystal clear that the team is committed to a rebuilding mode. Second, instead of just dumping Shields’ contract for basically nothing, they threw in some salary to get a couple of guys who could conceivably help them after the rebuild. As any Reds or Phillies fan could tell you, there’s a lot of risk in a rebuilding team waiting too long to trade an expensive veteran. Better for the Padres to make a move now and get something in return.
My question is: if they’re crystal clear that the team is committed to rebuilding, why on earth is AJ Preller going to be entrusted to lead that? I understand that he’s been on the job for less than 2 years, but it sure looks to me as though he’s been as terrible a GM as you can have during his tenure. The fact that his two biggest moves – the Shields signing and the Kemp trade – have each been just so terrible that besides not making the team better, are going to cripple the club’s ability to rebuild in anything resembling a short time frame. The Padres are five years away from competing, at a minimum, and why you’d ask Preller to continue to oversee the club during that time is well beyond me.
Yup. The Kemp and Shields moves were crazy. And you can’t forget the non-trade of Justin Upton at the deadline. And the team would clearly be better off with Joe Ross and Trea Turner than it is with Wil Myers and Alexei Ramírez. The list goes on.
Don’t most pitchers occasionally lose feel for one or more of their pitches and get rocked? Where is the support for the idea there is a distinct changeup effect? Shields and Hamels have been very good pitchers at times. Is there any falsifiable way to distinguish their brand of “very good” from other pitchers who are about equally good?
Further, even if I granted that point, the fact that he might lose a feel for his changeup does not move the walls in at Petco, nor does it make the Socal air any less dense. If he loses feel and gives up some deep fly balls, then you would expect that in addition to extra homers, he would also give up some extra deep fly balls that don’t quite make it out, and some to the warning track, etc. Some of those that don’t make it out in Petco will make it out in US Cellular.
Further, if I granted both that changeup pitchers sometimes get rocked and that Shields is immune to park factors, that is even more reason why the Padres should get rid of him, because Petco has pitcher-friendly park factors. Therefore, they should get rid of the guy who doesn’t take advantage of them and get someone who does for less money.
Also, a 3.91 FIP in Petco in the NL is below average.
Also, every pitcher looks better without his worst start.
Yeah.
Actually the cell has been more pitcher friendly than petco the last 1.3 years. Now that’s total, the cell still allows more homers. But moving the fences in at petco did seem to work. But using park factors to imply he will be worse doesn’t hold weight anymore.
..so do you think he might be better used working out of the bullpen?
“Big Game James” is more like “Big Inning James”.
The article claims the projections say he’s +1 win to the W/Sox.
I’d like an in-depth explanation of how a reasonable metric puts him above replacement level
It’s not about being a win better than replacement level, he just needed to be a win better than the White Sox previous 5th starter.
I think a bigger thing is him going deep in ball games and allowing them to keep the bullpen more fresh. Between latos and Gonzalez they get like 5 innings each so they tax the bullpen and that’s really let them down lately.
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