Why the Pirates Gifted Juan Nicasio
As FanGraphs managing editor Dave Cameron wrote Wednesday, we are seeing fewer “bewildering” transactions in baseball these days. Many teams are thinking in similar ways, hiring similar people, and using similar information to make decisions. While that makes for more efficient decision making, it also makes for fewer controversial and/or head-scratching decisions.
While relatively minor in scope, we were given an unusual transaction when the Pirates — who have fallen out of contention — elected to place Juan Nicasio on irrevocable outright waivers this week, not revocable waivers, which teams usually employ this time of year to pass players through waivers but are able to pull them back if claimed.
The Pirates were willing to give away Nicasio — a failed starter turned into a useful reliever — for free and the Phillies took them up on it Thursday, claiming the free-agent-to-be and the remaining $600,000 he is owed.
In a year when every contender is trying to at least improve their bullpens, if not build super pens, Nicasio was a gift, though he was claimed by another non-contender, the Phillies. Nicasio has a 2.85 ERA, 3.00 FIP and 17.3 K-BB%.
Until I move to Cleveland in the middle of September, I am still a resident of Pittsburgh. Many of the good people of Allegheny County and the surrounding areas are not happy with this deal, viewing it like Yahoo! columnist Jeff Passan:
I know Pittsburgh is out of the race, but to let a quality RP like Juan Nicasio leave for nothing to save $600K screams of pure cheapness.
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) August 31, 2017
Many in Pittsburgh are skeptical — whether just or misguided — that Pirates ownership isn’t overly interested in competing when it comes to spending on payroll, and to that point, the Pirates have generally run some of the smallest payrolls in the sport. And while there are real revenue challenges that extend beyond market size (the Pirates control little parking, for instance), one could argue payroll commitment has not climbed commensurate with attendance growth in recent years and the additional national media dollars pouring into the industry. The Pirates opened the season ranking 25th in payroll.
The “cheap” label was not helped when when Gerrit Cole voiced his displeasure regarding his near-the-minimum pre-arbitration salary last spring. Perception was not helped when Francisco Liriano was moved to Toronto along with prospects Reese McGuire and Harold Ramirez last deadline period, in what looked like a salary dump. And now many feel the Pirates are trying to save a relatively modest $600,000 with this waiver move.
On the other hand, Cameron notes teams can actually do quite a bit with $600,000. Wrote Dave:
Given that those innings don’t really mean a lot now, it can reasonably be argued that the $600K in savings, if spent to acquire new talent — that’s enough to sign a significant international free agent, for instance — could help the team more than keeping Nicasio around for the final month of a lost season.
But while you can kind of see why the Pirates would do this with no real alternatives for turning him into any long-term value now, it’s pretty weird for every other contender to essentially get a chance to grab a quality reliever for nothing. Because Nicasio isn’t just some random waiver-wire arm. So why would the Pirates do this if not for saving a rather small amount of dollars?
Pirates general manager Neal Huntington explained the decision Thursday in a statement:
We took the unusual step of placing a quality person and pitcher in Juan Nicasio on outright waivers for a variety of reasons. Given our recent record and regression in the standings, we intend to give the higher leverage innings to other pitchers that may or will impact our 2018 club. We acknowledge the minimal amount of money saved by making this move, however, as a result of our decision and Juan’s pending free agency at the end of the season, we felt it appropriate to attempt to move Juan to a better situation for him.
We recently requested trade waivers on Juan and he was claimed by a playoff caliber club that indicated to us their primary motivation was to block us from being able to trade Juan elsewhere and that they were not willing to give us more than very marginal value in return if we chose to trade Juan to them. Rather than help a direct competitor and recognizing the difference in claiming order between trade and outright waivers, we chose to take the chance to see if by placing Juan on outright waivers he would end up with a different playoff contender, preferably one in the American League.
We appreciate all that Juan has done for our team and our organization. We wish him the best.
Huntington said another contender claimed Nicasio as a blocking maneuver on revocable waivers with little interest in surrendering a prospect of value in return. Perhaps this was a message sent that the Pirates are willing to dump players for nothing rather than be pinned down to ‘meh’ returns in revocable waiver deals. Huntington said the Pirates wanted to give innings to younger arms in September, and also allow Nicasio a chance to pitch for a contender (that didn’t happen).
It’s an unusual move. Are the Pirates being cheap? Was saving $600,000 a primary motivation? I don’t know. Many see the move through that lens.
Where the Pirates might have erred is in electing not to move Nicasio prior to the non-waiver deadline when they could have got some sort of return from a club of their choosing.
Back in late June I proposed the Pirates ought to consider selling “softly,” meaning that with the club once again on the outskirts of contention, they should keep assets like Cole and Andrew McCutchen but move their free agents to be like Tony Watson — whom they did — and Nicasio, whom they did not.
One of the more attractive chips the Pirates have is Juan Nicasio (2.11 FIP, 56 ERA-, 18-point K-BB%), who has rebuilt his career as a quality bullpen option. Nicasio excelled in a multi-inning relief role last season. He’s a free agent after the season. There should be a motivation — and a market — to pick up a controllable asset for Nicasio.
The Pirates were 5.5 games out of the NL Central race on July 31, and 8.5 games out of the Wild Card race. It was not likely they could would advance to the playoffs, and while plausible, they did not look like a team that could push deep into October should they advance there.
There was a great seller’s market for relievers.
Of the 30 major league players traded from July 26 to the 4 p.m. trade deadline on Aug. 1, 16 were relief pitchers. But Nicasio stayed put. Perhaps there was little demand but it seemed like there was great demand for every reliever with a pulse. Perhaps the ask was too high.
A year earlier, on the fringe of contention, the Pirates upset many in Pittsburgh by trading “proven closer” and free-agent-to-be Mark Melancon for a package that contained Felipe Rivero. While it was something of a tactical retreat, it was absolutely the right decision and Rivero has become a controllable star-level reliever.
Under Huntington the Pirates have done an excellent job of finding value and building bullpens. They did not seem interested in extending Nicasio and likely view him as easily replaceable. Still, perhaps the Pirates should have been more aggressive as sellers prior to the deadline, particularly given the fact they had what the market coveted. The Pirates are a club that must extract value where and when they can.
Perhaps the mistake was not parting ways with Nicasio, but waiting too long to do so.
A Cleveland native, FanGraphs writer Travis Sawchik is the author of the New York Times bestselling book, Big Data Baseball. He also contributes to The Athletic Cleveland, and has written for the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, among other outlets. Follow him on Twitter @Travis_Sawchik.

Given the strength of the Cubs and apparently now the Brewers, not to mention the Dodgers or the Nats they should have gone into complete rebuild. Pretty sure that was my comment 2 months ago when you wrote the soft rebuild column.
Couldn’t agree more. Management could have capitalized on 2020 value while awaiting the reasonable chances of the Cubs falling off, Harper leaving, Kershaw/Scherzer regressing, etc..
But no, the outside shot at winning 86 games and getting swept by WAS in the NLDS took precedence.
What happened to the “Big Data” Pirates? Are they not aware of probabilities, run differentials or concepts like BaseRuns? It didn’t take a genius to realize the team had a very low chance of making the playoffs at the end of July. This team has seemingly been stuck in limbo for the better part of two years, where they won’t commit to buying or selling, and the result is an organization that is mediocre and directionless. They need to sit down this winter and commit one way or the other. I think they should sell.
I agree 100%. The problem is, by waiting for so long, what do they have to sell?
Andrew McCutchen, who might hit .300 or might hit .250
Gerrit Cole, who can’t keep the ball in the park
Starling Marte, who has a needle hanging out of his rear end
Gregory Polanco in a body cast
Washed up low ceiling vets Freese, Cervelli, Rodriguez etc
Josh Harrison is a fine player, but his contract removes a lot of his surplus value
Have to think Josh Bell, Taillon, Glasnow are looked at as building blocks
That leaves Rivero. Which is a nice piece to have, but not a guy you’re going to rebuild the franchise behind. The lack of development and star power from the much ballyhooed farm system has been disappointing. I don’t think any of Polanco, Taillon, Bell or Glasnow becomes a perennial All-Star. Hope I’m wrong. That’s their only hope.
Even if a couple of those guys turn out to be good, do they have the other players to fill out a competitive team as they move forward?
No, I don’t see the depth. And we all know they aren’t going to go out and spend money to fill the holes. They really caught lightning in a bottle with McCutchen, and I think they’ll always need an 8 WAR superstar to be able to field a winning team. Those guys don’t grow on trees.
The *only* chance they have is to hit at an abnormally high rate with their young pitchers… Keller, Glasnow, Taillon etc and come up with a dominant rotation. Unfortunately, TINSTAAPP
I certainly wouldn’t call Freese or Cervelli “washed up.”
NH got suckered into a hot streak in July. He’s usually pretty astute at understanding the strengths and weaknesses of his team, but he got it wrong this year.
We shouldn’t – and can’t – understand the motives of any GM until we know what ownership has told him to do.
As much as I want to believe NH that this was some huge f.u. move, I can imagine it’s hard for Pirates fans to buy this.
This team should probably just sell. Their window was a couple years ago, and it seems to have closed. The cubs and cardinals are playing poorly, and the Bucs are still 4th in the division. The brewers are probably over achieving this year, but their future is bright and I don’t see them going anywhere any time soon.
We all know that anything can happen in any given season, but when there are arguably 3 teams better than you in your division and you are a small(er) market team, you need to be smart. Teams like the pirates are not the type that can afford to gift Juan Nicasio and the fact that they did, should be seen in a rather negative light.
“On the other hand, Cameron notes teams can actually do quite a bit with $600,000”
It’s not the fact that they can use $600k in other ways, it’s the fact that they have to release a useful player to even have the $600k to spend in the first place. Whether or not that’s true is up for debate, but that’s the perception anyway. Add that into the savings for Kang and Marte that never got spent, the “promise” from Frank Coonelly that payroll would increase with attendance (sure, payroll went up, but not at a higher rate than the rest of MLB) and the manager still trotting out guys like John Jaso and Chris Stewart… I can see why the fanbase is upset.
Travis, I really enjoy your work, but you really made no attempt to answer your title question beyond cheapness. Sure, they should have sold him when the could, but it doesnt explain giving away your 2nd best RP. Especially when the manager shows no signs of wanting to give important inning/ab to young players. NH can’t claim this excuse while we watch Chris Stewart, David Freese, and John Jaso start everyday over Elias Diaz, Max Moroff, and Jorda Luplow/Jose Osuna.
I disagree. Travis highlighted Huntington’s quote about their unwillingness to trade Nicasio to a rival team for a minimal return so they went in a different direction. Especially since I was unaware of Huntington’s comments, I found this article useful.
Also, while I’m not familiar with the Pirates, I’m a bit amused that Jaso starting 50 times in 107 total games qualifies as an everyday player, and your desire to get Max Moroff into the lineup on a regular basis even though he’s projected to barely hit .210 (albeit with a bunch of walks).
We arent talking about the whole season, we are talking about NH’s quote about giving important innings to younger players. That quote happened the same week that Jaso and Stewart were playing everyday. They have since changed paths and are now letting the kids play. And yes, you do want to see what Moroff, Luplow, and Diaz can do, they are mid level prospects and this is the exact time to see if any can be MLB assets. The Cards have been great at turning these types of guys into big league regulars by giving them opportunity. Low and behold, they started playing the kids and the win 3 straight with Luplow and Moroff keying the offense.
While this article tackles it from the Pirates perspective (and very well), I would’ve liked to have seen it from the Phillies perspective as well. Why is one month of a quality reliever worth $600,000 to them? Is the chance to avoid 100 losses really worth that much to them? What else could the Phillies gain by being marginally more competitive? Is it simply keeping a quality reliever from going to a playoff contender?
Don’t they call it “The City of Brotherly Love”?
It’s almost like the big brother (Pirates) had outgrown it (Nicasio) and had no need for it, so he handed it down to the little brother (Phillies). This kind act of “brotherly love” made their mother (fans) very happy by keeping it in the family (Pennsylvania).
LOL! Very whimsical !
There’s a chance the Phillies could trade him to a team fighting for a wildcard spot. He wouldn’t be playoff eligible so would get a very tiny return, but it’s a slightly better explanation than just eating innigs.
Well predicted, that man 🙂
Maybe they think Nicasio would be a good fit for next year and want to showcase their team to him for a month. The Phils are a fairly well to do team that can afford $600,000 in “marketing”. 🙂
It kind of seems like a good faith gesture to me, giving Nicasio some kind of chance to contend. I don’t know if they intend to talk to him during free agency this offseason or not, but if he had gone to an actual contender with a shot at a World Series ring, it couldn’t have hurt their chances in signing him back that they were willing to give him up for free so he’d have that opportunity.
Nah, if it were for Nicasio’s benefit, they’d have let him go to the unnamed claiming playoff team (for nothing). Instead they tableflipped him up in the air for a different claimant. No reason to expect a free Nicasio to get past the bad teams, and he didn’t.