You Actually Will Believe Who Signed Derek Norris

Earlier this offseason, the Rays signed the player who served as last year’s starting catcher for the Washington Nationals, Wilson Ramos. Ramos & Co. produced 4.4 WAR from the catcher spot last season for the Nats, the position’s second-most production.

Over the weekend, the Rays reportedly agreed to terms with Derek Norris, a player with whom the Nationals recently cut ties for an arguably inferior catcherMatt Wieters. (Wieters projects to produce 0.7 bWARP — a metric that includes framing value — in 2017, Norris 1.1 bWARP.) As to why Washington might make such a curious decision, there are a number of theories. One possible explanation, however, is the relative chumminess of Wieters’ agent with Nationals ownership.

So, in summary, the Rays now have the Nationals’ starting catcher from a year ago, and one of Nats’ top replacement options for Ramos as recently as a month ago.

The Rays’ interest in Norris was one of the more seemingly inevitable news items in recent weeks, as the devoutly analytical club otherwise appeared ready to enter the season with only inexperienced catchers — a combination of Curt Casali, Luke Maile and Jesus Sucre — from which to choose as they patiently wait for Ramos to return from the torn ACL he suffered last September.

Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times reports that the one-year deal is worth “less than $2 million.”

Writes Topkin:

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Signing Norris gives the Rays a more experienced option behind the plate …. Norris has made 446 big-league starts for Oakland and San Diego, Casali has made 116, Sucre 77 and Maile 43.

He chose the Rays over several other teams based on the opportunity for more playing time.

Perhaps the signing also speaks to the team becoming more conservative — or pessimistic, perhaps — regarding Ramos’s timetable to return behind the plate. MLB.com reported last month that Ramos might not be able to catch until August.

But the Rays are also undoubtedly intrigued by Norris due to his framing. Norris ranked 10th in framing runs last season, according to Baseball Prospectus, and ninth in 2015.

But if we drill a little deeper, what’s interesting about Norris’ framing ability is he seems to be as adept framing elevated pitches as lower ones. Here’s Norris getting a call well above the zone against Brandon Belt last season:

Of interest to the author is that Norris ranked eighth in baseball last season in called strikes that were outside the zone and above the belt, according to Statcast data. While pitches down in the zone are easier and more often successfully framed, Norris turned 317 should-have-been balls into strikes that were elevated pitches above the zone last season.

Why does this matter? Because of Tampa Bay’s Cult of the High Fastball.

No team threw more elevated fastballs than the Rays did a year ago, which should position the club ahead of the curve as more and more batters are countering the trend of the sinking, low-in-the zone fastballs about which Jeff Sullivan wrote earlier this spring. One problem with the philosophy — beyond the possibility of allowing more home runs — is that elevated pitches are more difficult to frame. But Norris should help allow more of those pitches be called as strikes.

Casali rated as a below-average framer in a small sample of work last season, as did Sucre. Maile rated slightly above average.

We don’t know if Norris will hit. He’s coming off a dreadful offensive season during which he posted a 55 wRC+. His once keen batting eye eroded, leading to something nearer a league-average walk rate, while his strikeout rate spiked to a career-worst 30.3% mark, leading to an unsightly .186 batting average. Norris was, in fact, baseball’s worst hitter. Norris was significantly worse as a hitter than Freddy Galvis and Jason Heyward last season. So he’s probably not some sort of two-way impact savior behind the plate. If you’re looking for reasons to believe that there’s some rebound imminent, Norris posted a wRC+ of 123 as recently as 2014 and a 97 mark in 2015. His career wRC+ is 93. He’s a fly-ball hitter with a 10.3% HR/FB ratio for his career, so he should benefit from a move to the AL East.

We don’t know if he will hit — and, by that, I mean we don’t if he’ll hit at all. We don’t know yet how the Rays plan to divide playing time among Norris and their other internal options until Ramos is ready. While Norris would perhaps fit better as a reserve at this point in his career, the Rays are simply looking for a placeholder until Ramos is ready.

What we do know is the glove will play, and the glove at catcher is one of the more important tools in the game. We do know Norris’s glove stands to give the Rays an edge at the margins, which they’re always seeking. What we do know his glove should fit quite well into the team’s high-fastball preference and philosophy. What we do know is that, if any team was going to look at Norris as a potential value-adding fit, it was the Rays.





A Cleveland native, FanGraphs writer Travis Sawchik is the author of the New York Times bestselling book, Big Data Baseball. He also contributes to The Athletic Cleveland, and has written for the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, among other outlets. Follow him on Twitter @Travis_Sawchik.

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HappyFunBallMember since 2019
9 years ago

Worst clickbait title ever

Luy
9 years ago
Reply to  HappyFunBall

Why is this getting downvotes? The title is clearly a parody of “You’ll never believe…” clickbait.

It really seems like it is intentionally (and humorously) the worst clickbait title ever.

FrancoeursteinMember since 2020
9 years ago

Perfect fit for a team that lives up in the zone with the heater. Another chip to what might be a dark horse Rays team in ’17

davegawk
9 years ago

I guess this is a chicken and egg thing, but were those pitches above really good framing jobs, or just bad calls? This is what bothers me about framing numbers, catchers seem to get all the credit and we are too assume umps completely base their decisions on where the catcher catches the pitch.

Luy
9 years ago
Reply to  davegawk

For individual pitches, I see your point.

But catchers receive tens of thousands of pitches every year. With many different umpires behind the plate over the course of a season. You have to explain away both the large sample size and different umpires to throw away framing data.

Put another way, it would have to be a pretty big coincidence that the best framers get all umpires on their bad days year in and year out.

Max Power
9 years ago
Reply to  davegawk

The BP model at least attempts to include umpire effects.

krinks
9 years ago

I sincerely hope this backfires on the Gnats and their pitching suffers for it.

BipMember since 2016
9 years ago
Reply to  krinks

I have now seen “gnat” used to denigrate two distinct clubs.

jdbolickMember since 2016
9 years ago

Some improvement for Norris at the plate is to be expected, but it wasn’t just bad luck for him last season, as he was by far the worst hitter in the major leagues against fastballs. Pitchers increased their fastball usage against him for the second straight season, and I would expect it to rise again unless he can make whatever adjustments are necessary to handle the pitch more effectively.

HarryLives
9 years ago
Reply to  jdbolick

This adjustment he needs to make might be as simple as not playing through injury, which it appears he may have been last year. If he’s healthy, I think he’ll bounce back. He’s only 28 and put up a 123 wRC+ two years ago.

JUICEMANE
9 years ago
Reply to  HarryLives

“This is such a garbage line of thinking. You don’t really seem like a person who is very self-aware. general idiot, but go peddle your nonsense somewhere else.”

Morat
9 years ago
Reply to  HarryLives

What injury? I did a quick search and found nothing significant

Paul G.Member since 2016
9 years ago

It got me to click. I’m not sure if I am disappointed or relieved that there are no bikinis involved.

Jetsy Extrano
9 years ago

“Norris turned 317 should-have-been balls into strikes that were elevated pitches above the zone last season.”

317 × 0.14 = 44 runs gained just from high pitch framing? Wow, really?

(Is that because that’s not net, so there’s another value saying he “lost” like 224 high pitches within the zone as called balls?)

BipMember since 2016
9 years ago
Reply to  Jetsy Extrano

The other thing is that I bet the “average” framing catcher gets more than 0 net strikes called above the zone, since obviously the rulebook zone is different from the called zone, which seems to bleed slightly over the rulebook zone. That means he may have gotten 93 net strikes above the zone (using your example) but the average catcher may get 50 net strikes above the zone, so you would only give him credit for being 43 strikes above average.

JUICEMANE
9 years ago
Reply to  Bip

“this is basic stuff.”

BipMember since 2016
9 years ago
Reply to  JUICEMANE

correct.

Morris Buttermaker
9 years ago

Watched him play quite a bit as I’m a pads fan. Norris’ defense is legit. But there were a lot of rumors that he was bad in the clubhouse. Rude to the young guys and especially Hedges. Glad that he’s gone even without the whole can’t hit thing.

DougMember since 2019
9 years ago

“Norris turned 317 should-have-been balls into strikes that were elevated pitches above the zone last season.”

Yes, but as a batter, that was not a good thing.

BipMember since 2016
9 years ago

Why does this matter? Because of Tampa Bay’s Cult of the High Fastball.

This raises the following question in my mind, especially given that the two gifs you chose are of non-fastballs: I assume non-fastballs are much easier to frame high than fastballs. I believe this would be because fastballs rise the most of any pitch, meaning the catcher catches them higher relative to where they cross the zone than for other pitches.

For instance, imagine a fastball and curveball both pass just over the zone. The curveball is tumbling down, so not only will it be lower when caught, the catcher can also move his hand down with the ball to continue the illusion of movement, making it look even lower than he caught it. By comparison, he will have to reach higher to catch the fastball, and the fact that it was hardly falling means that pulling him arm down will look more like a distinct motion, and my hypothesis is it would be less likely to fool the umpire.

Now, it is also possible that the general called zone for fastballs is lower, and Norris will be able to simply raise that zone the same amount as he would for breaking balls, meaning he will benefit a high-fastball about as much as a high curveball. I would be very interested in this study, regardless of the outcome.

JUICEMANE
9 years ago
Reply to  Bip

“this is basic stuff.”

BipMember since 2016
9 years ago
Reply to  JUICEMANE

also correct.

johansantana17Member since 2026
9 years ago

That’s a lot of “what we do knows” and “gloves” in the last paragraph. made me have to read ti twice.