ZiPS Time Warp: Jim Fregosi
There’s a kind of depressing infamy that comes with being a player on the losing end of a lopsided trade. Players like Glenn Davis, Ernie Broglio, and Larry Andersen are more famous for the players they were traded for than anything they did in their own careers. It’s an unfair bit of notoriety, too; there’s not much cosmic justice involved when Harvey Kuenn, who played in 10 All-Star games, is remembered more for a decision to trade Rocky Colavito he didn’t make rather than being a .314/.360/.426, 23.5 WAR hitter in seven full seasons with the Detroit Tigers. Jim Fregosi is another star who’s a member of this unfortunate club.
In the case of Fregosi, his run as an elite shortstop might actually be a distant third in the ol’ memory banks. If you asked a random baseball fan in 2021 what they know about him, at least one who isn’t an Angels fan, you’d likely get one of two responses: his status as the player traded for Nolan Ryan or his 15-year post-playing career as a manager for four teams, most famously those notorious misfits, the 1993 Philadelphia Phillies. But when Mike Trout blew through the Angels record for the most career WAR for a position player, the previous holder wasn’t Tim Salmon or Brian Downing or Darin Erstad or Bobby Grich. It was Jim Fregosi.
| Name | G | HR | AVG | OBP | SLG | wRC+ | WAR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mike Trout | 1263 | 306 | .305 | .418 | .584 | 172 | 76.7 |
| Jim Fregosi | 1429 | 115 | .268 | .340 | .403 | 116 | 42.6 |
| Brian Downing | 1661 | 222 | .271 | .372 | .441 | 128 | 36.5 |
| Bobby Grich | 1222 | 154 | .269 | .370 | .436 | 126 | 35.6 |
| Tim Salmon | 1672 | 299 | .282 | .385 | .498 | 130 | 35.4 |
| Darin Erstad | 1320 | 114 | .286 | .341 | .416 | 97 | 27.6 |
| Garret Anderson | 2013 | 272 | .296 | .327 | .469 | 102 | 26.3 |
| Howie Kendrick | 1081 | 78 | .292 | .332 | .424 | 107 | 23.1 |
| Chone Figgins | 936 | 31 | .291 | .363 | .388 | 103 | 22.2 |
| Troy Glaus | 827 | 182 | .253 | .357 | .497 | 120 | 20.7 |
| Vladimir Guerrero | 846 | 173 | .319 | .381 | .546 | 138 | 20.3 |
| Erick Aybar | 1220 | 48 | .276 | .315 | .378 | 92 | 19.5 |
| Jim Edmonds | 709 | 121 | .290 | .359 | .498 | 118 | 19.5 |
| Wally Joyner | 899 | 117 | .286 | .350 | .450 | 119 | 18.7 |
| Doug DeCinces | 787 | 130 | .265 | .336 | .463 | 115 | 18.2 |
| Torii Hunter | 713 | 105 | .286 | .352 | .462 | 122 | 16.2 |
| Adam Kennedy | 992 | 51 | .280 | .334 | .398 | 92 | 15.6 |
| Rod Carew | 834 | 18 | .314 | .393 | .392 | 121 | 15.4 |
| Kole Calhoun | 966 | 140 | .249 | .322 | .424 | 105 | 15.3 |
| Andrelton Simmons | 561 | 36 | .281 | .328 | .394 | 96 | 15.1 |
Fregosi’s success with the Angels wasn’t just a local phenomena. Going into 1971, Fregosi was coming off an age-28 season in which he hit .278/.353/.459 for 129 wRC+ and 6.8 WAR. That last number was good enough for fifth in baseball, behind four Hall of Famers: Carl Yastrzemski, Tony Perez, Johnny Bench, and Willie McCovey. If the 129 wRC+ isn’t enough to demonstrate that Fregosi’s WAR isn’t just a case of modern defensive estimates loving an old player in hindsight, he had already made six All-Star teams, voted on and selected by fans and managers long before wins above replacement was an actual thing. Receiving MVP votes in eight consecutive seasons is an accolade that even Derek Jeter and Cal Ripken Jr. failed to muster! Here’s how he staked up versus other players at the position through their age-28 season:
| Name | G | HR | AVG | OBP | SLG | wRC+ | WAR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Alex Rodriguez | 1430 | 381 | .305 | .381 | .574 | 143 | 68.6 |
| Arky Vaughan | 1305 | 78 | .325 | .416 | .473 | 145 | 59.0 |
| Cal Ripken Jr. | 1315 | 204 | .277 | .347 | .461 | 123 | 49.0 |
| Robin Yount | 1549 | 129 | .286 | .331 | .427 | 111 | 43.3 |
| Jim Fregosi | 1322 | 110 | .271 | .341 | .408 | 118 | 41.6 |
| Travis Jackson | 1212 | 103 | .299 | .347 | .450 | 107 | 40.3 |
| Lou Boudreau | 1043 | 36 | .290 | .373 | .409 | 121 | 40.1 |
| Ernie Banks | 922 | 228 | .295 | .355 | .558 | 135 | 39.7 |
| Joe Cronin | 1134 | 60 | .302 | .383 | .452 | 117 | 39.6 |
| Vern Stephens | 1154 | 177 | .288 | .360 | .466 | 123 | 37.3 |
| Alan Trammell | 1289 | 90 | .281 | .349 | .403 | 109 | 35.5 |
| Joe Tinker | 1110 | 21 | .250 | .294 | .336 | 93 | 34.4 |
| Nomar Garciaparra | 772 | 145 | .328 | .375 | .562 | 136 | 32.7 |
| Derek Jeter | 1093 | 117 | .317 | .389 | .463 | 125 | 32.5 |
| Hanley Ramirez | 1009 | 158 | .298 | .371 | .495 | 128 | 31.9 |
| Rico Petrocelli | 977 | 157 | .255 | .335 | .450 | 116 | 31.8 |
| Joe Sewell | 1097 | 19 | .323 | .404 | .431 | 117 | 31.2 |
| Jose Reyes | 1050 | 81 | .292 | .341 | .441 | 106 | 30.6 |
| Francisco Lindor | 785 | 138 | .285 | .346 | .486 | 118 | 29.1 |
| Cecil Travis | 1102 | 25 | .327 | .381 | .436 | 112 | 28.4 |
Through age 28, Fregosi stood among the great shortstops in MLB history, ranking fifth all-time in WAR among players who played at least 50% of their games at the position. At the time, was even more impressive; three of the four players ahead of him in the ranks came after Fregosi’s playing career was over, leaving him looking up only at Arky Vaughan after 1970.
From 1963 to 1970, Fregosi played in 1,253 games, the fourth-most in baseball. Of the top eight players, he’s the only one who didn’t end up in the Hall of Fame. Fregosi never played in 110 games in a season after 1970. The first culprit was a case of Morton’s neuroma in his right foot, a mass of nerve tissue in the ball of the foot commonly referred to as a benign tumor. (In one of those odd ways that history likes to repeat itself, this was the exact same injury that Mike Trout required surgery for in 2019.) Fregosi played through this injury on-and-off for two months, and by the time he went under the knife in July, his line stood at .192/.274/.295 in 60 games, suggesting the Angels didn’t manage the situation particularly well.
Returning a month later, Fregosi played at his normal levels, though his usual moderate power was missing; his .286/.369/.364 line post-injury was more than respectable. Encouraged by his recovery, the Mets acquired him in December of 1971 for four players. I don’t imagine I need to introduce Nolan Ryan, but at the time of the trade, he was still a very raw talent, more wild pyromancer than The Ryan Express. Leroy Stanton was the team’s starting right fielder for four seasons, and Don Rose was part of the chain of trades that brought the Angels Ed Figueroa, Bobby Bonds, and eventually Brian Downing. The last player, Frank Estrada, didn’t make a splash in his one game in the majors, but he went on to play in the Mexican League up until 1994, when he was still hanging on as a player-manager; he made both the Mexican and Caribbean Hall of Fames.
Fregosi played both first and left field for the Angels in his final season in California, and the Mets intended to play him at third base as Bud Harrelson, the team’s incumbent shortstop, was coming off a Gold Glove season. Fregosi’s offense was hampered by both a thumb injury and falling out of shape due to, by his own admission “leading the good life.” Stardom never returned, and Fregosi was traded to the Rangers before finishing his second season with the Mets. He spent the next several seasons as a role player in steep decline before retiring in 1978 as a member of the Pittsburgh Pirates.
So, let’s dial the ZiPS time machine to 1970. Gone is the foot injury — sure, that’s impossible, but we’re already using a time machine here, so it’s a little late to object — and in this timeline, the high-achieving Fregosi finds it easier to keep his body in check when not enduring significant professional setbacks.
| Year | BA | OBP | SLG | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SO | OPS+ | WAR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1961 | .222 | .250 | .222 | 27 | 7 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 23 | -0.2 |
| 1962 | .291 | .356 | .406 | 175 | 15 | 51 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 23 | 18 | 27 | 108 | 0.6 |
| 1963 | .287 | .325 | .422 | 592 | 83 | 170 | 29 | 12 | 9 | 50 | 36 | 104 | 114 | 3.9 |
| 1964 | .277 | .369 | .463 | 505 | 86 | 140 | 22 | 9 | 18 | 72 | 72 | 87 | 141 | 7.0 |
| 1965 | .277 | .337 | .407 | 602 | 66 | 167 | 19 | 7 | 15 | 64 | 54 | 107 | 114 | 5.4 |
| 1966 | .252 | .325 | .391 | 611 | 78 | 154 | 32 | 7 | 13 | 67 | 67 | 89 | 108 | 5.0 |
| 1967 | .290 | .349 | .395 | 590 | 75 | 171 | 23 | 6 | 9 | 56 | 49 | 77 | 125 | 5.2 |
| 1968 | .244 | .315 | .365 | 614 | 77 | 150 | 21 | 13 | 9 | 49 | 60 | 101 | 111 | 3.5 |
| 1969 | .260 | .361 | .381 | 580 | 78 | 151 | 22 | 6 | 12 | 47 | 93 | 86 | 114 | 4.4 |
| 1970 | .278 | .353 | .459 | 601 | 95 | 167 | 33 | 5 | 22 | 82 | 69 | 92 | 127 | 6.8 |
| 1971 | .269 | .344 | .404 | 592 | 81 | 159 | 26 | 6 | 14 | 64 | 67 | 84 | 128 | 5.0 |
| 1972 | .262 | .334 | .392 | 587 | 76 | 154 | 26 | 7 | 12 | 62 | 62 | 83 | 131 | 5.3 |
| 1973 | .275 | .350 | .421 | 575 | 94 | 158 | 26 | 8 | 14 | 77 | 65 | 74 | 127 | 4.9 |
| 1974 | .270 | .347 | .403 | 563 | 89 | 152 | 24 | 9 | 11 | 73 | 65 | 70 | 123 | 4.5 |
| 1975 | .265 | .338 | .393 | 555 | 82 | 147 | 23 | 9 | 10 | 67 | 60 | 65 | 115 | 3.7 |
| 1976 | .261 | .328 | .373 | 547 | 70 | 143 | 20 | 10 | 7 | 58 | 53 | 59 | 112 | 3.3 |
| 1977 | .265 | .328 | .396 | 540 | 77 | 143 | 21 | 10 | 10 | 64 | 49 | 58 | 102 | 2.4 |
| 1978 | .250 | .307 | .353 | 507 | 67 | 127 | 18 | 8 | 6 | 55 | 40 | 48 | 91 | 1.5 |
| 1979 | .252 | .302 | .348 | 528 | 77 | 133 | 15 | 9 | 6 | 62 | 36 | 45 | 79 | 0.6 |
| 1980 | .244 | .287 | .322 | 401 | 44 | 98 | 10 | 6 | 3 | 36 | 23 | 31 | 70 | -0.1 |
| Year | BA | OBP | SLG | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SO | OPS+ | WAR |
| ZiPS RoC | .262 | .329 | .383 | 5395 | 757 | 1414 | 209 | 82 | 93 | 618 | 520 | 617 | 110 | 31.1 |
| Actual | .245 | .326 | .369 | 1626 | 184 | 399 | 60 | 9 | 41 | 193 | 196 | 323 | 100 | 2.6 |
| Year | BA | OBP | SLG | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SO | OPS+ | WAR |
| ZiPS Career | .266 | .335 | .395 | 10292 | 1417 | 2741 | 413 | 151 | 203 | 1131 | 1039 | 1391 | 114 | 72.7 |
| Actual | .299 | .338 | .398 | 6523 | 844 | 1726 | 264 | 78 | 151 | 706 | 715 | 1097 | 113 | 44.2 |
After 1970, ZiPS projects four more four-win seasons from Fregosi, and three or four more after that as a solid starter. If we give him four additional All-Star seasons for that run, Fregosi gets to double digits. Of the eligible players who made a decade’s worth of All-Star contests, only two without a PED black mark, Bill Freehan and Steve Garvey, aren’t in the Hall. A rest-of-career projection gets him to 70 WAR and just under 3000 hits, a comparable career to Jeter’s. If this version of Fregosi didn’t get into the Hall of Fame, I expect that he’d be one of the current causes célèbre of the analytics community, along with players like Lou Whitaker.
I’m not even sure that the actual Jim Fregosi shouldn’t be in the Hall. He edges out Luis Aparicio and Maury Wills in the 1960s shortstop WAR ranks despite playing in 300-400 fewer games than either, so you can argue that he was the best shortstop of the decade. That’s usually a solid argument for having a Hall of Fame peak. He’s 21st in my colleague Jay Jaffe’s JAWS leaders, so it’s not like he’s a galaxy away if you fold entire careers into the mix. While I’m not sure I’d actually vote for Fregosi to make the Hall, it’s not preposterous. Jim Fregosi was an important player in MLB history, and he should be remembered for that, not for an unfortunate trade that pops up on various Worst Ever lists.
Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.
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While growing up, Fregosi was my favorite player. Very few understands how good he was. Without that tumor, he’s a Hall of Famer. A true baseball lifer. A World Series manager, a great scout, and a great player. He died way too young.
“Without that tumor, he’s a Hall of Famer.”
I’m skeptical that he would have made the HOF without the tumor. I don’t see him as doing the sort of things that HOF voters at the time liked: didn’t hit .300+, didn’t get 200 hits, didn’t drive in or score runs, didn’t lead the league in anything (other than triples once). Throw is the fact that he had only one gold glove as a shortstop and was stuck on poor teams and I’m struggling to see the voters electing him.
BTW, I’m not saying he wouldn’t have deserved it. But his career strikes me as similar to Bobby Grich in the sense that he was a lot better than people realized at the time.
I think he would have eventually gotten in. They were not real high on Ron Santo either. Grich received MVP votes five times, Fregosi received votes 8 consecutive years and it might have been 12 without the tumor.
Grich left baseball, Fregosi was a baseball lifer. Grich belongs in the Hall of Fame, but I think Fregosi would have gotten in without that tumor.
Those 8 straight MVP vote seasons aren’t as impressive as they seem. 4 times he finished 20th or below. And several of those look like token votes, likely from one or both of the Angels voters. Meanwhile he had only one top ten finish, and only 7th place at that. Honestly, I can’t think of a single HOFer (at least of those voted in by the BBWAA) with such an uninspiring MVP-vote profile.
As for Santo, he had 4 top MVP finishes, won several gold gloves, had several seasons above 30 home runs and 100 RBIs. All things that HOF voters at the time valued. And yet he never came close to making it in via the BBWAA. So why would we expect Fregosi to do better?
They are not as impressive as they seem yet they are a lot more impressive in context. According to WAR, Among position players, out of those eight years. Seven top 20, four top 10, two 3rds, and a second. Those MVP voters showed some writers thought him a top ten player in 8 straight years. Which means he had the voters eye. And even so, they underrated him. 1970, the year before the tumor, he had his best WAR ranking.
From 1964 to 70. He ranked 3rd in AL WAR. Yaz, Brooks, Fregosi, Kilabrew and Olivia. He may not have made it on the writers ballot, but he likely would have made it the same way Santo made it.
When you do a projection like this, does the time period make any difference to the projections? E.g. if you told ZIPS that Fregosi had these stats from 2011-2020, project what would happen from 2021 onward, would you get different results? And Kuenn will always have Harvey’s Wallbangers!
Yup, they’re keyed to the actual park and league. You can see a bump from 72 to 73 in projected OPS but his OPS+ going down. AL OPS went up 60-some points!
His name FREgosi?! I’ve been calling him FERgosi all these years!
I was able to meet him and grab a bite when he managed CWS. He was a credit to MLB in the way he responded to fans. Loved the ole California Angels with Albee Pearson, Booby Knoop and others.
Love this analysis. The raw batting numbers of the 1960s fail to provide the context to explain Fregosi’s period of greatness to a modern audience. Thank you, Dan.
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1165 G | 218 HR | .257/.312/.448 | 106 wRC+ | 6.0 WAR
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Sorry, Dan, but I think you buried the lede of Rod Carew’s Angel career: OBP 393 SLG 392!
Thanks, Dan.
One of my foundational baseball experiences arose from a family vacation to Southern California in 1969, – if one can properly speak of a week at the step -grandmother’s low-slung, 1000 sq. ft. , rustic, cinder-bloc house in a particularly remote isolated spot in the Mojave Desert a vacation – listening to Fregosi’s Angel’s, which included guys I knew from their time on my hometown PCL team – Jay Johnstone, Aurelio Rodriguez, Andy Messersmith – on the radio, a young Dick Enberg and Dave Niehaus on the call. It was the first radio broadcast of major league baseball I ever heard.
Very cool piece. Maybe because he’s the kind of guy that is seen as more valuable with the modern lens, he doesn’t get lumped in with some other career nose-divers.
One quick note: in the table his “Actual” batting average is listed as .299 which is not right. It was .265.
Gotta see Ryan’s ’71 ZiPS Time Warp.
He was about league average ERA leading up to this, 1 WAR/yr or 2/300IP. That’s all you have to give up for a SS averaging 5 WAR? This is looking like a steal for the Mets.