2013 ZiPS Projections – Toronto Blue Jays
Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projections, which have typically appeared in the pages of Baseball Think Factory, will be released at FanGraphs this year. Below are the projections for the maybe-AL-East-favorite Toronto Blue Jays. Szymborski can be found on Twitter at @DSzymborski.
Other 2013 Projections: Angels / Astros / Athletics / Cubs / Giants / Nationals / Phillies / Rangers.
Batters
In 2012, Jose Bautista and Brett Lawrie combined for just 217 total games played and 935 plate appearances, posting a 3.2 and 2.9 WAR, respectively. Were each to have produced at similar rates over 650 plate appearances instead (which probably isn’t a responsible thing to assume, actually, but that’s what’s happening right now), that would have been worth about another two or three wins to the Blue Jays — and likely even more, on account of how the Jays’ main replacements at right field (Moises Sierra) and third base (Adeiny Hechavarria) were worth less than replacement level. For 2013, even with just ca. 1,100 plate appearances projected between them, Bautista and Lawrie are expected to combine for about 9.0 WAR — or, roughly what they’d have produced together in a full season in 2012.
Elsewhere, early indications are that the Blue Jays will wait until spring training to name a starting second baseman. ZiPS suggests that maybe Maicer Izturis and not Emilio Bonifacio would be the right choice, although it’s not the proverbial “slam dunk.”
Pitchers
Brandon Morrow’s 2.4 WAR in 2012 was the team’s highest mark for a pitcher (by a factor of two, in fact). That same figure in 2013 would merit consideration merely for the fifth starter role, according to ZiPS, which projects offseason acquisitions R.A. Dickey, Josh Johnson, and Mark Buehrle to combine for something like 10 wins.
The bullpen features (deservedly, given his recent track record) an enthusiastic projection (60.1 IP, 79 ERA-, 1.2 WAR) for Casey Janssen — which is notable insofar as anyone who followed baseball in 2006 will remember Janssen as a soft-tossing starter. By way of illustrating his improvement, here’s a poorly designed graph of Janssen’s swinging-strike rates from 2006 to ’12:

Bench/Prospects
The aggressive nature of Toronto’s offseason necessarily means that their system is less impressive than it would have been otherwise, now lacking Travis D’Arnaud, Jake Marisnick, and Noah Syndergaard, among others. The very athletic Anthony Gose, despite a 2012 that saw him post a 73 wRC+, is viewed as something not unlike major-league average by ZiPS. And, at catcher, A.J. Jimenez is forecast roughly on par with J.P. Arencibia and newly acquired Josh Thole.
Depth Chart
Here’s a rough depth chart for the Blue Jays, with rounded projected WAR totals for each player (click to embiggen):
Ballpark graphic courtesy Eephus League. Credit to MLB Depth Charts for roster information.
Batters, Counting Stats
| Player | B | Age | PO | PA | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | CS |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jose Bautista | R | 32 | RF | 497 | 74 | 108 | 21 | 2 | 31 | 80 | 7 | 2 |
| Jose Reyes | B | 30 | SS | 613 | 83 | 164 | 32 | 10 | 12 | 55 | 34 | 9 |
| Brett Lawrie | R | 23 | 3B | 573 | 77 | 144 | 28 | 6 | 19 | 66 | 15 | 6 |
| Edwin Encarnacion | R | 30 | DH | 529 | 71 | 126 | 24 | 0 | 28 | 80 | 8 | 2 |
| Melky Cabrera | B | 28 | LF | 641 | 91 | 174 | 35 | 6 | 16 | 77 | 15 | 6 |
| Kelly Johnson | L | 31 | 2B | 578 | 67 | 120 | 23 | 4 | 20 | 60 | 12 | 4 |
| Colby Rasmus | L | 26 | CF | 588 | 82 | 128 | 26 | 4 | 23 | 73 | 6 | 3 |
| J.P. Arencibia | R | 27 | C | 464 | 52 | 100 | 23 | 2 | 23 | 72 | 1 | 0 |
| Anthony Gose | L | 22 | CF | 662 | 78 | 141 | 23 | 8 | 11 | 54 | 47 | 14 |
| Adam Lind | L | 29 | 1B | 556 | 55 | 134 | 26 | 2 | 22 | 79 | 1 | 0 |
| Josh Thole | L | 26 | C | 426 | 37 | 100 | 21 | 1 | 4 | 36 | 1 | 1 |
| Maicer Izturis | B | 32 | 2B | 365 | 42 | 89 | 20 | 1 | 4 | 33 | 11 | 4 |
| A.J. Jimenez | R | 23 | C | 292 | 26 | 70 | 13 | 1 | 4 | 27 | 6 | 3 |
| Rajai Davis | R | 32 | LF | 461 | 57 | 111 | 24 | 4 | 5 | 42 | 38 | 12 |
| Luis Jimenez | L | 31 | 1B | 532 | 65 | 122 | 27 | 1 | 14 | 63 | 2 | 0 |
| Ryan Langerhans | L | 33 | LF | 370 | 40 | 67 | 14 | 2 | 10 | 33 | 5 | 5 |
| Emilio Bonifacio | B | 28 | CF | 442 | 53 | 101 | 13 | 5 | 2 | 23 | 29 | 6 |
| Jack Cust | L | 34 | RF | 429 | 49 | 77 | 15 | 1 | 15 | 50 | 2 | 0 |
| David Cooper | L | 26 | 1B | 572 | 59 | 134 | 35 | 1 | 13 | 65 | 0 | 1 |
| Mike Nickeas | R | 30 | C | 241 | 22 | 50 | 10 | 0 | 3 | 26 | 0 | 1 |
| Mike McCoy | R | 32 | 2B | 414 | 45 | 80 | 14 | 1 | 3 | 27 | 19 | 7 |
| Luke Hughes | R | 28 | 2B | 313 | 32 | 62 | 14 | 2 | 7 | 29 | 4 | 2 |
| Ryan Goins | L | 25 | SS | 546 | 46 | 120 | 25 | 3 | 4 | 46 | 7 | 6 |
| Moises Sierra | R | 24 | RF | 494 | 53 | 110 | 15 | 2 | 15 | 59 | 7 | 8 |
| Paul Phillips | R | 36 | C | 172 | 13 | 38 | 5 | 0 | 1 | 11 | 0 | 1 |
| Omar Vizquel | B | 46 | 2B | 157 | 14 | 37 | 6 | 1 | 0 | 7 | 2 | 2 |
| Jim Negrych | L | 28 | 2B | 420 | 48 | 92 | 16 | 2 | 5 | 39 | 5 | 5 |
| Vladimir Guerrero | R | 38 | LF | 246 | 26 | 67 | 12 | 1 | 7 | 29 | 1 | 1 |
| Eugenio Velez | B | 31 | RF | 436 | 44 | 94 | 20 | 3 | 6 | 41 | 19 | 9 |
| Chris Woodward | R | 37 | 3B | 383 | 33 | 80 | 19 | 1 | 4 | 31 | 3 | 2 |
| Lance Zawadzki | B | 28 | 2B | 355 | 35 | 70 | 12 | 3 | 6 | 30 | 8 | 2 |
| Kevin Howard | L | 32 | 1B | 342 | 30 | 77 | 12 | 1 | 6 | 31 | 4 | 3 |
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Batters, Rates and Averages
| Player | PA | BB% | K% | ISO | BABIP | BA | OBP | SLG | wOBA |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jose Bautista | 497 | 16.3% | 18.1% | .291 | .266 | .266 | .391 | .557 | .395 |
| Jose Reyes | 613 | 7.3% | 8.5% | .157 | .304 | .293 | .343 | .450 | .339 |
| Brett Lawrie | 573 | 6.5% | 16.6% | .186 | .304 | .275 | .332 | .461 | .343 |
| Edwin Encarnacion | 529 | 10.6% | 15.3% | .235 | .275 | .273 | .357 | .508 | .366 |
| Melky Cabrera | 641 | 6.4% | 13.6% | .161 | .320 | .294 | .339 | .455 | .337 |
| Kelly Johnson | 578 | 10.6% | 26.0% | .179 | .294 | .236 | .322 | .415 | .321 |
| Colby Rasmus | 588 | 8.7% | 25.3% | .196 | .292 | .242 | .311 | .438 | .317 |
| J.P. Arencibia | 464 | 6.0% | 27.6% | .224 | .273 | .233 | .282 | .457 | .316 |
| Anthony Gose | 662 | 8.0% | 26.6% | .121 | .318 | .237 | .307 | .358 | .298 |
| Adam Lind | 556 | 7.0% | 19.8% | .188 | .292 | .263 | .315 | .451 | .327 |
| Josh Thole | 426 | 8.2% | 13.1% | .091 | .294 | .261 | .325 | .352 | .292 |
| Maicer Izturis | 365 | 7.4% | 12.1% | .103 | .299 | .270 | .331 | .373 | .310 |
| A.J. Jimenez | 292 | 4.5% | 17.5% | .100 | .303 | .258 | .295 | .358 | .283 |
| Rajai Davis | 461 | 5.0% | 18.0% | .109 | .308 | .259 | .302 | .368 | .298 |
| Luis Jimenez | 532 | 8.6% | 21.2% | .146 | .302 | .252 | .318 | .398 | .313 |
| Ryan Langerhans | 370 | 11.6% | 31.4% | .149 | .288 | .208 | .302 | .357 | .287 |
| Emilio Bonifacio | 442 | 7.7% | 20.4% | .073 | .320 | .254 | .312 | .327 | .287 |
| Jack Cust | 429 | 14.0% | 33.1% | .171 | .298 | .212 | .329 | .383 | .315 |
| David Cooper | 572 | 7.7% | 15.0% | .146 | .283 | .257 | .315 | .403 | .309 |
| Mike Nickeas | 241 | 7.1% | 19.5% | .088 | .276 | .229 | .289 | .317 | .264 |
| Mike McCoy | 414 | 10.9% | 17.4% | .070 | .269 | .223 | .310 | .293 | .273 |
| Luke Hughes | 313 | 7.0% | 27.5% | .138 | .284 | .218 | .279 | .356 | .278 |
| Ryan Goins | 546 | 5.5% | 20.1% | .085 | .296 | .239 | .280 | .324 | .259 |
| Moises Sierra | 494 | 5.9% | 23.5% | .140 | .290 | .241 | .294 | .381 | .291 |
| Paul Phillips | 172 | 5.2% | 12.8% | .050 | .268 | .238 | .281 | .288 | .247 |
| Omar Vizquel | 157 | 3.8% | 10.2% | .054 | .278 | .252 | .277 | .306 | .251 |
| Jim Negrych | 420 | 8.1% | 17.1% | .093 | .287 | .244 | .306 | .337 | .279 |
| Vladimir Guerrero | 246 | 2.0% | 9.3% | .148 | .288 | .284 | .305 | .432 | .314 |
| Eugenio Velez | 436 | 6.0% | 22.0% | .109 | .292 | .234 | .285 | .343 | .274 |
| Chris Woodward | 383 | 4.4% | 20.9% | .093 | .274 | .223 | .262 | .316 | .253 |
| Lance Zawadzki | 355 | 5.4% | 26.5% | .108 | .275 | .210 | .255 | .318 | .252 |
| Kevin Howard | 342 | 5.0% | 17.0% | .099 | .273 | .238 | .276 | .337 | .264 |
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Batters, Assorted Other
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Pitchers, Counting Stats
| Player | T | Age | G | GS | IP | SO | BB | HR | H | R | ER |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| R.A. Dickey | R | 38 | 30 | 29 | 194.3 | 148 | 47 | 25 | 193 | 90 | 84 |
| Josh Johnson | R | 29 | 24 | 24 | 149.0 | 123 | 45 | 14 | 143 | 65 | 61 |
| Brandon Morrow | R | 28 | 28 | 28 | 154.0 | 157 | 59 | 17 | 142 | 73 | 68 |
| Ricky Romero | L | 28 | 30 | 30 | 187.3 | 143 | 84 | 21 | 183 | 98 | 92 |
| Mark Buehrle | L | 34 | 26 | 26 | 168.3 | 91 | 34 | 23 | 186 | 88 | 82 |
| Brett Cecil | L | 26 | 32 | 26 | 158.3 | 112 | 51 | 23 | 171 | 92 | 86 |
| Casey Janssen | R | 31 | 58 | 0 | 60.3 | 61 | 15 | 6 | 54 | 24 | 22 |
| Buzz Oliver | L | 42 | 52 | 0 | 44.7 | 39 | 13 | 4 | 42 | 18 | 17 |
| Drew Hutchison | R | 22 | 20 | 20 | 102.3 | 81 | 34 | 16 | 110 | 60 | 56 |
| Esmil Rogers | R | 27 | 67 | 0 | 80.0 | 79 | 31 | 9 | 79 | 41 | 38 |
| J.A. Happ | L | 30 | 25 | 23 | 130.7 | 109 | 58 | 20 | 137 | 80 | 75 |
| Steve Delabar | R | 29 | 60 | 0 | 63.3 | 84 | 25 | 12 | 53 | 31 | 29 |
| Sergio Santos | R | 29 | 35 | 0 | 34.0 | 41 | 14 | 3 | 29 | 14 | 13 |
| Aaron Loup | L | 25 | 72 | 0 | 75.3 | 52 | 18 | 7 | 81 | 39 | 36 |
| Brandon Lyon | R | 33 | 53 | 0 | 49.7 | 41 | 17 | 5 | 49 | 25 | 23 |
| Luis Perez | L | 28 | 35 | 0 | 42.3 | 39 | 16 | 4 | 40 | 20 | 19 |
| Dustin McGowan | R | 31 | 13 | 13 | 74.0 | 56 | 32 | 10 | 80 | 45 | 42 |
| Brad Lincoln | R | 28 | 39 | 17 | 117.3 | 88 | 31 | 21 | 133 | 74 | 69 |
| Sam Dyson | R | 25 | 40 | 6 | 71.3 | 29 | 24 | 7 | 84 | 43 | 40 |
| Rich Thompson | R | 28 | 42 | 0 | 51.7 | 43 | 24 | 7 | 52 | 29 | 27 |
| Justin Germano | R | 30 | 29 | 15 | 108.3 | 65 | 27 | 19 | 125 | 70 | 65 |
| Chad Beck | R | 28 | 58 | 0 | 59.7 | 28 | 21 | 6 | 68 | 34 | 32 |
| Buddy Carlyle | R | 35 | 30 | 1 | 55.7 | 38 | 20 | 8 | 62 | 33 | 31 |
| Ronald Uviedo | R | 26 | 48 | 0 | 66.0 | 52 | 29 | 9 | 71 | 40 | 37 |
| Jeremy Jeffress | R | 25 | 49 | 0 | 54.7 | 45 | 35 | 6 | 57 | 33 | 31 |
| Kyle Drabek | R | 25 | 22 | 21 | 114.0 | 72 | 68 | 17 | 127 | 77 | 72 |
| Juan Perez | L | 34 | 43 | 0 | 39.0 | 38 | 25 | 6 | 40 | 25 | 23 |
| Claudio Vargas | R | 35 | 18 | 9 | 56.0 | 33 | 23 | 9 | 67 | 39 | 36 |
| Evan Crawford | L | 26 | 43 | 0 | 45.3 | 31 | 22 | 6 | 51 | 29 | 27 |
| Bobby Korecky | R | 33 | 42 | 0 | 62.3 | 33 | 23 | 10 | 71 | 40 | 37 |
| Jamie Moyer | L | 50 | 12 | 11 | 65.0 | 36 | 19 | 14 | 81 | 48 | 45 |
| Alex Hinshaw | L | 30 | 46 | 0 | 44.7 | 42 | 35 | 7 | 47 | 32 | 30 |
| Chad Jenkins | R | 25 | 23 | 23 | 123.0 | 56 | 40 | 23 | 163 | 93 | 87 |
| Chorye Spoone | R | 27 | 33 | 11 | 83.3 | 41 | 66 | 11 | 105 | 67 | 63 |
| Scott Richmond | R | 33 | 21 | 20 | 98.7 | 58 | 45 | 23 | 123 | 80 | 75 |
| Ramon Ortiz | R | 40 | 26 | 20 | 116.3 | 57 | 40 | 25 | 149 | 92 | 86 |
| Greg Smith | L | 29 | 22 | 21 | 113.3 | 55 | 51 | 26 | 146 | 94 | 88 |
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Pitchers, Rates and Averages
| Player | IP | TBF | K% | BB% | BABIP | ERA | FIP | ERA- | FIP- |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| R.A. Dickey | 194.3 | 823 | 18.0% | 5.7% | .282 | 3.89 | 4.06 | 94 | 98 |
| Josh Johnson | 149.0 | 635 | 19.4% | 7.1% | .287 | 3.68 | 3.55 | 89 | 86 |
| Brandon Morrow | 154.0 | 663 | 23.7% | 8.9% | .296 | 3.97 | 3.78 | 96 | 91 |
| Ricky Romero | 187.3 | 829 | 17.3% | 10.1% | .284 | 4.42 | 4.50 | 107 | 109 |
| Mark Buehrle | 168.3 | 725 | 12.6% | 4.7% | .284 | 4.38 | 4.40 | 106 | 106 |
| Brett Cecil | 158.3 | 697 | 16.1% | 7.3% | .293 | 4.89 | 4.63 | 118 | 112 |
| Casey Janssen | 60.3 | 250 | 24.4% | 6.0% | .291 | 3.28 | 3.21 | 79 | 78 |
| Buzz Oliver | 44.7 | 189 | 20.6% | 6.9% | .290 | 3.43 | 3.52 | 83 | 85 |
| Drew Hutchison | 102.3 | 451 | 18.0% | 7.5% | .300 | 4.93 | 4.75 | 119 | 115 |
| Esmil Rogers | 80.0 | 350 | 22.6% | 8.9% | .310 | 4.28 | 3.86 | 104 | 93 |
| J.A. Happ | 130.7 | 587 | 18.6% | 9.9% | .295 | 5.17 | 4.79 | 125 | 116 |
| Steve Delabar | 63.3 | 268 | 31.4% | 9.3% | .291 | 4.12 | 4.37 | 100 | 106 |
| Sergio Santos | 34.0 | 145 | 28.3% | 9.7% | .306 | 3.44 | 3.07 | 83 | 74 |
| Aaron Loup | 75.3 | 325 | 16.0% | 5.5% | .301 | 4.30 | 3.68 | 104 | 89 |
| Brandon Lyon | 49.7 | 215 | 19.1% | 7.9% | .293 | 4.17 | 3.72 | 101 | 90 |
| Luis Perez | 42.3 | 183 | 21.3% | 8.7% | .298 | 4.04 | 3.83 | 98 | 93 |
| Dustin McGowan | 74.0 | 334 | 16.8% | 9.6% | .302 | 5.11 | 4.80 | 124 | 116 |
| Brad Lincoln | 117.3 | 516 | 17.1% | 6.0% | .302 | 5.29 | 4.79 | 128 | 116 |
| Sam Dyson | 71.3 | 322 | 9.0% | 7.5% | .299 | 5.05 | 4.74 | 122 | 115 |
| Rich Thompson | 51.7 | 231 | 18.6% | 10.4% | .290 | 4.70 | 4.64 | 114 | 112 |
| Justin Germano | 108.3 | 477 | 13.6% | 5.7% | .297 | 5.40 | 5.14 | 131 | 125 |
| Chad Beck | 59.7 | 268 | 10.4% | 7.8% | .295 | 4.83 | 4.62 | 117 | 112 |
| Buddy Carlyle | 55.7 | 249 | 15.3% | 8.0% | .300 | 5.01 | 4.78 | 121 | 116 |
| Ronald Uviedo | 66.0 | 298 | 17.4% | 9.7% | .302 | 5.05 | 4.75 | 122 | 115 |
| Jeremy Jeffress | 54.7 | 256 | 17.6% | 13.7% | .305 | 5.10 | 4.85 | 123 | 117 |
| Kyle Drabek | 114.0 | 537 | 13.4% | 12.7% | .293 | 5.68 | 5.64 | 138 | 137 |
| Juan Perez | 39.0 | 182 | 20.9% | 13.7% | .309 | 5.31 | 5.22 | 129 | 126 |
| Claudio Vargas | 56.0 | 258 | 12.8% | 8.9% | .307 | 5.79 | 5.40 | 140 | 131 |
| Evan Crawford | 45.3 | 209 | 14.8% | 10.5% | .306 | 5.36 | 5.04 | 130 | 122 |
| Bobby Korecky | 62.3 | 281 | 11.7% | 8.2% | .289 | 5.34 | 5.42 | 129 | 131 |
| Jamie Moyer | 65.0 | 295 | 12.2% | 6.4% | .300 | 6.23 | 5.76 | 151 | 139 |
| Alex Hinshaw | 44.7 | 216 | 19.4% | 16.2% | .310 | 6.04 | 5.67 | 146 | 137 |
| Chad Jenkins | 123.0 | 572 | 9.8% | 7.0% | .315 | 6.37 | 5.76 | 154 | 139 |
| Chorye Spoone | 83.3 | 421 | 9.7% | 15.7% | .316 | 6.80 | 6.35 | 165 | 154 |
| Scott Richmond | 98.7 | 464 | 12.5% | 9.7% | .301 | 6.84 | 6.50 | 166 | 157 |
| Ramon Ortiz | 116.3 | 538 | 10.6% | 7.4% | .303 | 6.65 | 6.10 | 161 | 148 |
| Greg Smith | 113.3 | 537 | 10.2% | 9.5% | .302 | 6.99 | 6.62 | 169 | 160 |
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Pitchers, Assorted Other
| Player | IP | K/9 | BB/9 | HR/9 | ERA+ | WAR | No. 1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| R.A. Dickey | 194.3 | 6.86 | 2.18 | 1.16 | 110 | 4.0 | Woody Williams |
| Josh Johnson | 149.0 | 7.43 | 2.72 | 0.85 | 116 | 3.4 | Jason Schmidt |
| Brandon Morrow | 154.0 | 9.18 | 3.45 | 0.99 | 107 | 3.0 | Tim Belcher |
| Ricky Romero | 187.3 | 6.87 | 4.04 | 1.01 | 96 | 2.6 | Fernando Valenzuela |
| Mark Buehrle | 168.3 | 4.87 | 1.82 | 1.23 | 97 | 2.5 | Jim Kaat |
| Brett Cecil | 158.3 | 6.37 | 2.90 | 1.31 | 87 | 1.3 | Jason Jacome |
| Casey Janssen | 60.3 | 9.10 | 2.24 | 0.90 | 130 | 1.2 | Rafael Betancourt |
| Buzz Oliver | 44.7 | 7.85 | 2.62 | 0.81 | 124 | 0.8 | John Franco |
| Drew Hutchison | 102.3 | 7.13 | 2.99 | 1.41 | 86 | 0.8 | Chad Durbin |
| Esmil Rogers | 80.0 | 8.89 | 3.49 | 1.01 | 100 | 0.7 | Bert Roberge |
| J.A. Happ | 130.7 | 7.51 | 3.99 | 1.38 | 82 | 0.6 | Casey Fossum |
| Steve Delabar | 63.3 | 11.94 | 3.55 | 1.71 | 103 | 0.6 | Jorge Julio |
| Sergio Santos | 34.0 | 10.85 | 3.71 | 0.79 | 124 | 0.6 | Ryne Duren |
| Aaron Loup | 75.3 | 6.22 | 2.15 | 0.84 | 99 | 0.6 | Mark Peterson |
| Brandon Lyon | 49.7 | 7.42 | 3.08 | 0.91 | 102 | 0.5 | Bryan Corey |
| Luis Perez | 42.3 | 8.30 | 3.40 | 0.85 | 105 | 0.5 | Mike Stanton |
| Dustin McGowan | 74.0 | 6.81 | 3.89 | 1.22 | 83 | 0.4 | Kevin Foster |
| Brad Lincoln | 117.3 | 6.75 | 2.38 | 1.61 | 80 | 0.2 | Bruce Walton |
| Sam Dyson | 71.3 | 3.66 | 3.03 | 0.88 | 84 | 0.2 | Jack Cassel |
| Rich Thompson | 51.7 | 7.49 | 4.18 | 1.22 | 91 | 0.2 | Franklyn German |
| Justin Germano | 108.3 | 5.40 | 2.24 | 1.58 | 79 | 0.1 | Justin Miller |
| Chad Beck | 59.7 | 4.22 | 3.17 | 0.90 | 88 | 0.1 | Scott Rose |
| Buddy Carlyle | 55.7 | 6.14 | 3.23 | 1.29 | 85 | 0.0 | Ricky Barlow |
| Ronald Uviedo | 66.0 | 7.09 | 3.95 | 1.23 | 84 | -0.1 | Anthony Chavez |
| Jeremy Jeffress | 54.7 | 7.40 | 5.76 | 0.99 | 83 | -0.1 | Marc Pisciotta |
| Kyle Drabek | 114.0 | 5.68 | 5.37 | 1.34 | 75 | -0.2 | Brett Laxton |
| Juan Perez | 39.0 | 8.77 | 5.77 | 1.38 | 80 | -0.2 | Marshall Bridges |
| Claudio Vargas | 56.0 | 5.30 | 3.70 | 1.45 | 74 | -0.2 | Alan Benes |
| Evan Crawford | 45.3 | 6.16 | 4.37 | 1.19 | 79 | -0.2 | Joey Long |
| Bobby Korecky | 62.3 | 4.77 | 3.32 | 1.44 | 80 | -0.3 | Brandon Puffer |
| Jamie Moyer | 65.0 | 4.98 | 2.63 | 1.94 | 68 | -0.5 | Jerry Reuss |
| Alex Hinshaw | 44.7 | 8.46 | 7.05 | 1.41 | 70 | -0.6 | Bill White |
| Chad Jenkins | 123.0 | 4.10 | 2.93 | 1.68 | 67 | -1.2 | Cameron Reimers |
| Chorye Spoone | 83.3 | 4.43 | 7.13 | 1.19 | 63 | -1.4 | Dallas Trahern |
| Scott Richmond | 98.7 | 5.29 | 4.10 | 2.10 | 62 | -1.5 | Russ Ortiz |
| Ramon Ortiz | 116.3 | 4.41 | 3.10 | 1.93 | 64 | -1.6 | Ed Riley |
| Greg Smith | 113.3 | 4.37 | 4.05 | 2.07 | 61 | -2.0 | Dan Smith |
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Disclaimer: ZiPS projections are computer-based projections of performance. Performances have not been allocated to predicted playing time in the majors — many of the players listed above are unlikely to play in the majors at all in 2012. ZiPS is projecting equivalent production — a .240 ZiPS projection may end up being .280 in AAA or .300 in AA, for example. Whether or not a player will play is one of many non-statistical factors one has to take into account when predicting the future.
Players are listed with their most recent teams unless Dan has made a mistake. This is very possible as a lot of minor-league signings are generally unreported in the offseason.
ZiPS is projecting based on the AL having a 4.09 ERA and the NL having a 3.92 ERA.
Players that are expected to be out due to injury are still projected. More information is always better than less information and a computer isn’t what should be projecting the injury status of, for example, a pitcher with Tommy John surgery.
Regarding ERA+ vs. ERA- (and FIP+ vs. FIP-) and the differences therein: as Patriot notes here, they are not simply mirror images of each other. Writes Patriot: “ERA+ does not tell you that a pitcher’s ERA was X% less or more than the league’s ERA. It tells you that the league’s ERA was X% less or more than the pitcher’s ERA.”
Both hitters and pitchers are ranked by projected WAR.
Carson Cistulli has published a book of aphorisms called Spirited Ejaculations of a New Enthusiast.

Arencibia’s comp being John Buck has to be a joke, right?
That comp is a multi-layered cake of delicious hilarity.
I sometimes stick in a joke, but Buck is definitely the top comp. I’ll screenshot if disbelief persists!
You don’t need a computer program to make the comparison.
Are Lyle Overbay and Mike Stanton the two most-comped players in all of ZiPS? They seem to show up everywhere, I wonder what that says about them.
This year, just looking at top 3 comps, some of the most comped-to players are Herm Winningham, Chad Moeller, Brook Jacoby, George Mitterwald, Brad Voyles, Brook Jacoby, and Dave Martinez.
Brook Jacoby is so comparable, in fact, that he made the top comps list twice!
Any reason why zips thinks Dickey will throw 40 less innings then he did in 2012? Don’t see Gose getting that many at bats in the majors.
Read the disclaimer: “ZiPS projections are computer-based projections of performance. Performances have not been allocated to predicted playing time in the majors — many of the players listed above are unlikely to play in the majors at all in 2012.”
– If you have a pitcher leading the league in batters faced and you’re not projecting fewer next year, something’s gone wrong, because the risk is essentially all to the downside.
– Dickey has two 200 inning seasons in his career, so it’s a little premature to conclude he’s a tank, even if he is a knuckler.
– A good chunk of the innings dropped is simply the result of a lesser projection and a change to a significantly tougher environment to pitch in. More hits and a few more walks reduced IP for the same number of batters faced. Not pitching quite as well also results in shorter stints, on average.
Going to be super interesting to see how many high knucklers get corked out of Rogers’ Centre that wouldn’t make it out of Citi Field.
except that dickey, and knuckleballers in general, pitch better in domes – especially if they’re closed. so what would be even more interesting to see is whether or not dickey pitches even better at Rogers centre. while Rogers centre is a hitters park, people tend to forget that the jays pitching staff had the lowest era a few years back.
That dome for knucklers thing is pure speculation.
Supported enough for AA to admit in press conference context that the dome will ALWAYS be closed for Dickey’s starts, irrespective of the weather. Given the very strong preference of fans for an open dome, that says something significant.
Pure speculation but that speculation is coming from the pitchers themselves. Even if that gives a placebo mental advantage it’s worth noting. ZIPs seems pretty low on Dickey (although it somehow still equates to 4 WAR). I think he can and will beat most of his peripherals (K/9, HR/9, ERA). His K% last year was 24.8% and ZIPs has him at 18%.
Right on eh.
How are major-league comps for minor-league players determined? For example, the comp for Anthony Gose is a guy who never earned a non-negative WAR over a full season in his big league career. Yet Carson wrote in the intro that Gose is “viewed as something not unlike major-league average” by ZiPS, based on his projected 2.0 WAR…
Sorry, I meant “never posted a WAR over 1” rather than “never posted a non-negative WAR.”
Im sure it is based on his minor league stats and the projected aging curve of a young speedster with his tools.
Most likely because of a lack of data. His projection is basically taking what he did last year in 189 PA and projecting it across ~650 PA.
They are not “major league” comps.
Winningham comes as similar to Gose because, at the same point in his career Gose is, Winningham had the most similar recent history to Gose, majors and minors.
Ahh, OK. Thanks for the clarification, Dan.
BUZZ Oliver? LOL – nice one!
Talk about making a splash:
Toronto SP WAR last year: 5.1
ZIPS projected WAR for starting five this year: 15.5
Not sure you can do what I’m about to because the hitters are projected to total 14,109 plate appearances and the pitchers 3313 innings pitched, but total WAR projected adds up to 47.1 which I believe projects to about 96 wins.
You can’t. ZIPS is only about player production and projected PA based only on recent history of PA. To accurately project team WAR, a more indepth PA assessment is needed (he depth chart approach from the article is a good first cut, only including the expected starters for each position).
IF you are going to play the WAR wins game, then 45-46 is probably a better baseline. So 92-93 wins.
No, not valid. Adding 45 (Dan’s approximate for an all-replacement team) to the total from the depth chart comes to 90. This is not valid either, but probably a reasonable projection. Doing the same for the Angels yields 96 and for the Nationals 92.
Once all the teams are done, will the ZiPS projections be added to the player pages?
From what I’ve read, it looks like a “yes” but not until all the projections have been released.
If Brett Cecil comes anywhere close to that innings projection, something will have gone terribly wrong.
Kind of funny to see Brad Lincoln comped to his pitching coach.
Also funny to see him projected to pitch 117 innings.
Yeah, the Cecil and Lincoln IP projections seem crazy. Is there any reason for them being predicted to pitch that many innings? Isn’t Happ the guy that will pick up rotation slack in the case of injuries?
Psst, read the disclaimer! 🙂
Happy will start the season pitching in AAA (recently reported) to stay sharp as a 6th starter should the Jays need one due to injury.
On the whole, ZIPs seems fairly conservative about the Jays and yet the result is still quite positive.
I imagine that Bautista will finish with at least 50 more PAs which could push his WAR above 5. I also don’t see Dickey pitching >3.5 ERA given his track record over the last 3 years and the fact that the dome will mostly be closed. I’d prefer Janssen to close given he’s been one of the best relievers in baseball over the last 2 years by any metric (WAR, WPA, ERA-, K/9, BB/9). Either way, an 8/9 of Santos and Janssen is something to look forward to. Brad Lincoln’s #’s should also be far improved as ZIPs (rightfully so) is ignoring that he became a completely different pitcher in 2012, gaining 2 MPH on his fastball.
As a Jays’ fan, can’t wait for the season.
Bautista projecting 8 more hits than Josh Thole proves that projecting stats is for geeks who DONT ACTUALLY WATCH THE PLAYERS THEY ARE MAKING PROJECTIONS FOR.
that is all
You’re adorable.
Josh Thole:
2012 – 75 hits in 321 AB (.234)
Career average – .261
Jose Bautista:
2012 – 80 hits in 332 AB (.241)
Career average – .253
Outrageous!
Bautista 3 year avg hits = 128
Thole 3 year avg hits = 74
Bautista= every day 3 hitter
Thole= backup catcher
Career Avg. means NOTHING for some players.
Bautista pre swing changes playing twice a week in Pitt is not an indicator of his future performance.
Look at RA Dickey’s stats from 2001-2008. WORTHLESS he didnt even try to throw a knuckle until 06.
And their current roles mean nothing here… because you’re assuming certain playing time for one or the other, but ZiPs doesn’t project playing time in regards to expected role. Look at the projections in context, reading the disclaimers and other information here. Nobody expects Thole to be a better or more valuable player, nor does ZiPs even suggest they’re anywhere in the same.
Although, Bautista’s .262 average with Toronto alone, doesn’t sway things either.
Career average “means nothing” is a pretty ridiculous statement. Bautista’s hit between .260 and .270 as a Jay, which is more or less Thole’s career average. And Bautista is getting old, and probably worse, while Thole is still pretty young. Pretty plausible projection, then.
The Dickey prediction seems off. A 3.89 ERA seems a little high and the difference between his ERA and FIP has been larger than .17 over the past few years.
I don’t think ZiPS takes knuckleballers into account in any special way, does it? That is, it doesn’t know that Dickey’s ability to induce weak contact is a legitimate skill. That’d probably explain it.
The ERAs seem worse than the FIPs. If that’s because of crappy defense, the Jays might want to put Gose, Rasmus and Melky in the OF and move Bautista to 1B. Also get a good defensive 2B….like Cliff Pennington or somebody. It’s not like Lind and Mice Hair are going to set the world on fire.
What do you think about Marcus Stroman?
Any chance we can get a projection for Deck McGuire? I’m sure it won’t be pretty, but he pitched great as a reliever in the AFL this winter, and it’s very possible he sees innings out of the Toronto bullpen this year if nothing else.